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Title: Strategy help
Post by: Andre Chass on Aug 12, 04:50 PM 2017
Hello!

I need to have knee surgery but I don't have enough money. My only hope is to double what I already have by placing bets. Could anyone suggest a system or strategy that is more efficient and secure?

Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: Strategy help
Post by: Taotie on Aug 12, 05:06 PM 2017
If you come around here I could smash the other knee for you with a hammer. At least that way you will have symmetry and some money to lose.
Title: Re: Strategy help
Post by: Andre Chass on Aug 12, 05:18 PM 2017
Hey Taotie, I need some help here and not to fight or be humiliated. If you can not or do not want to help then shut your mouth...
Title: Re: Strategy help
Post by: celescliff on Aug 12, 05:47 PM 2017
Quote from: Taotie on Aug 12, 05:06 PM 2017
If you come around here I could smash the other knee for you with a hammer. At least that way you will have symmetry and some money to lose.

Big lol
Title: Re: Strategy help
Post by: Andre Chass on Aug 12, 05:56 PM 2017
Is this a forum about roulette? I am disappointed by the lack of sense of humanity and respect. I don't know in what country you live. At least in my country we do not act this way...
Title: Re: Strategy help
Post by: RouletteGhost on Aug 12, 05:59 PM 2017
its a harsh forum

mainly when people bash online instead of talking about what the forum is actually meant for, is their own insecurities

do not rely on roulette for ANYTHING its negative expectation

and dont buy any strategies ever
Title: Re: Strategy help
Post by: Taotie on Aug 12, 06:02 PM 2017
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Aug 12, 05:59 PM 2017

do not rely on roulette for ANYTHING its negative expectation

and dont buy any strategies ever


@ RouletteGhost,

That's exactly what I said in my own harsh and cryptic manner.
Title: Re: Strategy help
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Aug 12, 06:11 PM 2017
I'll give you a few systems to look at:

Lohnro's Line System
link:s://:.vlsroulette.com/index.php?topic=3.0

Hermes' Six by Six Line System
link:s://:.vlsroulette.com/index.php?topic=13988.0

Star System Even Chances
link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=8723.0

Hammy's Street 'Builder'
link:s://:.vlsroulette.com/index.php?topic=3378.0

The Late Flat_Ino/Iboba's Simple & Profitable
link:s://:.vlsroulette.com/index.php?topic=12462.0
Title: Re: Strategy help
Post by: Andre Chass on Aug 12, 06:20 PM 2017
Okay, I understand ...
However I need to take that risk. That's why I need help. I need you guys to help me with an efficient and less risky strategy / system. At this point where I find myself in life, for me is all or nothing.
I would be very grateful if someone suggested me a better way to bet.
Title: Re: Strategy help
Post by: Taotie on Aug 12, 06:20 PM 2017
..and when he tries one and loses what money he's got so can't have his knee fixed at all, we can thank proofreader for his spiralling into deep depression.
Title: Re: Strategy help
Post by: Andre Chass on Aug 12, 06:22 PM 2017
Quote from: Proofreaders2000 on Aug 12, 06:11 PM 2017
I'll give you a few systems to look at:

Lohnro's Line System
link:s://:.vlsroulette.com/index.php?topic=3.0

Hermes' Six by Six Line System
link:s://:.vlsroulette.com/index.php?topic=13988.0

Star System Even Chances
link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=8723.0

Hammy's Street 'Builder'
link:s://:.vlsroulette.com/index.php?topic=3378.0

The Late Flat_Ino/Iboba's Simple & Profitable
link:s://:.vlsroulette.com/index.php?topic=12462.0

Thank you very much! I'll take a look!
Title: Re: Strategy help
Post by: RouletteGhost on Aug 12, 06:30 PM 2017
Actually no

You do not need to take a risk on roulette

Get a job at mcdonalds if that's what it takes

Title: Re: Strategy help
Post by: stringbeanpc on Aug 12, 06:36 PM 2017
Andre,

How much experience do you have with roulette ? With Money Management ?

Do you have the numbers on wheel memorized by location ?

In my opinion, it would be best to concentrate on these before "attacking the table"

I wish you the best.
Title: Re: Strategy help
Post by: Andre Chass on Aug 12, 06:45 PM 2017
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Aug 12, 06:30 PM 2017
Actually no

You do not need to take a risk on roulette

Get a job at mcdonalds if that's what it takes

I'm 46 and I already have a job, but I'm full of debt and I do not have enough money for surgery.
Title: Re: Strategy help
Post by: Andre Chass on Aug 12, 06:53 PM 2017
Quote from: stringbeanpc on Aug 12, 06:36 PM 2017
Andre,

How much experience do you have with roulette ? With Money Management ?

Do you have the numbers on wheel memorized by location ?



In my opinion, it would be best to concentrate on these before "attacking the table"

I wish you the best.

I have been playing roulette for about 1 year. I've already used some strategies. I won a lot a few times, I lost a lot sometimes. But now I'm looking for a new strategy that I still don't know so I can have the chance to succeed. Like I said: The moment I'm in my life for me it's all or nothing ...

Thanks for the help!
Title: Re: Strategy help
Post by: stringbeanpc on Aug 12, 07:06 PM 2017
Once I read this (don't remember where), I think it's true.

In gambling you can

1) win a little
2) lose a little
3) win alot
4) lose alot

Avoid #4 and you should be ok.

Title: Re: Strategy help
Post by: Andre Chass on Aug 12, 07:32 PM 2017
Quote from: stringbeanpc on Aug 12, 07:06 PM 2017
Once I read this (don't remember where), I think it's true.

In gambling you can

1) win a little
2) lose a little
3) win alot
4) lose alot

Avoid #4 and you should be ok.

That's a fact!

Right now I have my Notebook in front of me and I'm praying to find strength in making a single bet of $ 4,000.00 in red or black. That sounds like suicide ... But who knows?
Title: Re: Strategy help
Post by: stringbeanpc on Aug 12, 07:53 PM 2017
1) Watch this movie, it 's not about roulette.

Rounders 1998

link:s://:.youtube.com/watch?v=3E074iD6uX4


2) My opinion, Don't pray (remember the vicious god(s) prey (yes, with an E) upon us, just like a wolf preys on a rabbit)
Instead, study and learn how to win. Find a way to win.
Title: Re: Strategy help
Post by: Andre Chass on Aug 12, 08:07 PM 2017
Quote from: stringbeanpc on Aug 12, 07:53 PM 2017
1) Watch this movie, it 's not about roulette.

Rounders 1998

link:s://:.youtube.com/watch?v=3E074iD6uX4


2) My opinion, Don't pray (remember the vicious god(s) prey (yes, with an E) upon us, just like a wolf preys on a rabbit)
Instead, study and learn how to win. Find a way to win.

I'll take a look at the movie before I mess up and lose all the money. Thanks for your attention and spend your time on this topic!

You seem to be a great human being.

Cheers
Title: Re: Strategy help
Post by: DoctorSudoku on Aug 12, 11:02 PM 2017
Andre,
I am sorry to hear of your financial predicament. I will make a couple of suggestions.

First, discard this notion that you are going to make money from roulette to pay for your surgery. Roulette is an intellectually fascinating game (because of the diversity of bets that you can make), but it is a brutal game in terms of actually making money from it.

There are a couple of casino games where you have a better chance of making money -- poker and baccarat.

Poker is fundamentally a game of skill. It requires skill in terms of making probability-based judgments based on what cards are visible (already dealt out) and what cards are still in the shoe (still to be dealt out). You also need to be talented at reading people's faces and facial mannerisms. You may be innately talented enough to be good at poker, so you can give it a try.

Amongst the pure gambling games, baccarat offers you the best chance of making some money. It is a very simple game and at the same time a very boring game (compared to, say, craps and roulette). However, it is as close to a 50-50 game (banker versus player)  that you will get in a casino and at the same time it is also a very heavily trend-based game that offers good opportunities to exploit these trends.

So I would strongly suggest to you that you discard this notion (or illusion) of making money from roulette. Instead, take a serious look at both poker and baccarat (especially, the latter) and see how you feel about these games. Getting up to speed with poker will take a lot of time, so baccarat is probably the best option for you at this moment in terms of making money in a gambling game.

I don't know which country you live in but, hopefully, baccarat is available either online or at a local gambling establishment near where you live.
Title: Re: Strategy help
Post by: Drazen on Aug 13, 05:41 AM 2017
Quote from: DoctorSudoku on Aug 12, 11:02 PM 2017
Amongst the pure gambling games, baccarat offers you the best chance of making some money. It is a very simple game and at the same time a very boring game (compared to, say, craps and roulette). However, it is as close to a 50-50 game (banker versus player)  that you will get in a casino and at the same time it is also a very heavily trend-based game that offers good opportunities to exploit these trends.

Hey Doc

This raised few thoughts and questions in my head.

I perfectly agree that Andre or anyone else should discard getting money for his surgery from casino, if he cant be sure he will be in plus after any session.

Now I dont see much of an issue to deal with lower house edge on roulette when EC bets are in question. There are some casinos with La Partage and En Prison rules around. Even more online. So it leaves you pretty much around the same HE as Baccarat is offering, doesnt it? But I also dont see HE as main problem when winning is in question.

Theoretically speaking if there is a way we could reduce variance enough like having a bet which produces LWLWLWLWLWLW sequence on Ec-s all the time, using any progression would do perfectly fine, even if zero strikes from time to time. Hey, actually even having two zeros on the wheel, right? :)

I am not sure what means Bacc is heavily trend based? If trends are strong enough or irregular of roulette randomness for example we should be able to easy exploit those, right?

So am not sure are you saying that randomness on Baccarat is different than the one on roulette? Or different than flipping a coin maybe?
Title: Re: Strategy help
Post by: cht on Aug 13, 06:00 AM 2017
Roulette tends to trend more, baccarat tends to range more.

Average max streak -
roulette - 26, baccarat - 16
Title: Re: Strategy help
Post by: Taotie on Aug 13, 06:10 AM 2017
I live in the lucky country, Australia. Here we have 1st world social security support with subsidised healthcare for those less fortunate, or for those prepared to wait for elective surgery. For this, our taxpayers foot the bill, bless them/us.
When linked in correctly via the health system, even the waiting time can be minimal for surgeries such as those required by our friend Andre Chass.
Andre, if you are truly prepared to risk all you have in one single wager to realise the cost of your surgery, then you are probably right to consider putting it all on one bet, either red or black or equivalent.
After that realisation, there is really no possible way for any individual to help you increase your chance of success, as your result will be indisputably (f*ck the zero) 50/50.
So no one can really help you out of your predicament.

If it was me, and I was convinced that one single bet was the only way to resolve my situation, then I would track all the EC’s until at least two of them had four hits in the last five spins. Then I would continue to track all the EC’s until only one EC had four hits in the last five spins then bet the lot on that EC.

Title: Re: Strategy help
Post by: cht on Aug 13, 06:23 AM 2017
For those who frequent b&m casinos will across this bet that I name desperate dan bet. Here's how to do it -

1. First survey all the bacs table on the entire casino floor, check if you see exceptional number of dragons on the scoreboard, that is to determine if the day is bias trend on bacs table. If not, come back another day do the same survey.

2. Split your br into 3parts, bet 1/3 each hand.

3. Join the next trend bet at the bacs table with loud boisterous crowd that just won their bet. Don't forget to shout 'picture' or 'monkey' or 'whatever' when you need them, the card listens. Lol

4. Continue bet if win. If loss follows win, stop bet at be. If loss 1st hand, search for the next table for the same crowd.

That's how desperadoes place do or die bets.
Title: Re: Strategy help
Post by: ego on Aug 13, 12:14 PM 2017

I could tell you about a selection method that would trippel your money with high probability.
But my morals say i don't want to be part of your hazard game for operating your leg, feels wrong and don't want to be part of it.

What i would suggest is to get two jobs for a short period of time earning two salary.
Keep your day job and take a extra job during early night.

Cheers
Title: Re: Strategy help
Post by: Baelog on Aug 13, 12:21 PM 2017
Quote from: ego on Aug 13, 12:14 PM 2017
I could tell you about a selection method that would trippel your money with high probability.

Cheers

I play for fun with real money and would be interested to know about your bet selection and give it a shot.

Baelog
Title: Re: Strategy help
Post by: nottophammer on Aug 13, 12:32 PM 2017
As easy as that
link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=19274.msg180015;topicseen#msg180015
Title: Re: Strategy help
Post by: nottophammer on Aug 13, 01:06 PM 2017
you'll need to workout what you want to try and win, it was played to 50 units and stop, gets that at spin 16, but how about spin 29, but look at the count is to high for non-hit so repeats will come to balance the game.


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Title: Re: Strategy help
Post by: nottophammer on Aug 13, 01:12 PM 2017
Andre Chass
Give a day from 1/8/17 to 9/8/17 and we'll use on of Jackpot 247 games see if it holds, thats as up to date i am with J247
Title: Re: Strategy help
Post by: nottophammer on Aug 13, 01:13 PM 2017


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Title: Re: Strategy help
Post by: nottophammer on Aug 13, 01:14 PM 2017
if i'm as lucky as the hammers i'll lose
Title: Re: Strategy help
Post by: nottophammer on Aug 13, 01:36 PM 2017
had these on LOL, MPR, not done the workings yet, apart from 1st 10, at 39/40 could see 25 non-hit


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Title: Re: Strategy help
Post by: nottophammer on Aug 13, 01:41 PM 2017
old Priy tester is good


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good old non-hits, so Andre study non-hits they start the larger group
Title: Re: Strategy help
Post by: nottophammer on Aug 13, 01:47 PM 2017
Look the 22nd non-hit, its to fast it got to balance


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Title: Re: Strategy help
Post by: nottophammer on Aug 13, 01:59 PM 2017
what about hotties
well if you go with spin 1, think you've spent 120, so -84
Now drop the 1x and just bet R1's at 2 units, think it 62 out 72 in so -74
now just bet R2's at 3 units, think spent 99 and no R3 yet, so hole getting bigger


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So the game slowed repeats happened end +1 more non-hit than the avg 15 in spin 11-40 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Strategy help
Post by: nottophammer on Aug 13, 02:01 PM 2017
dont think it came quick enough


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Title: Re: Strategy help
Post by: nottophammer on Aug 13, 02:07 PM 2017
still waiting for hottie R4, i'll just stick to watching the trot of the non-hit.


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Title: Re: Strategy help
Post by: nottophammer on Aug 13, 02:40 PM 2017
Now till we have the rules, all i've done is drop the #'s when we get the win, then bet the hot one with 1 extra unit, when hit drop and increase this new hot one, is it right way or wrong.
But we can see this way is in a hole, imagine if we had gone 5, then 25, know its only 60 spins but its in a hole.



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Title: Re: Strategy help
Post by: nottophammer on Aug 13, 02:47 PM 2017
Lets look at betting from spin 1 and then bet every spin till 37 have been done. You'll need 703 units. The #'s =666, plus we need to bet 37 on last bet, so 703.
On this game we hit with #27, so as no new # we in crease to 2 units, if go to 5 we'll be betting more than the 703 at 1 units, is that right.
Now if we just use 1,2,3 we'd still use 703 units, so we need 20 wins of 1 win value 35-1 or 36 which ever way you like, to get 720 units.

Would this  work
Title: Re: Strategy help
Post by: nottophammer on Aug 13, 02:48 PM 2017
what d'ya say Mr Green taotie
Title: Re: Strategy help
Post by: Andre Chass on Aug 13, 04:52 PM 2017
Quote from: DoctorSudoku on Aug 12, 11:02 PM 2017
Andre,
I am sorry to hear of your financial predicament. I will make a couple of suggestions.

First, discard this notion that you are going to make money from roulette to pay for your surgery. Roulette is an intellectually fascinating game (because of the diversity of bets that you can make), but it is a brutal game in terms of actually making money from it.

There are a couple of casino games where you have a better chance of making money -- poker and baccarat.

Poker is fundamentally a game of skill. It requires skill in terms of making probability-based judgments based on what cards are visible (already dealt out) and what cards are still in the shoe (still to be dealt out). You also need to be talented at reading people's faces and facial mannerisms. You may be innately talented enough to be good at poker, so you can give it a try.

Amongst the pure gambling games, baccarat offers you the best chance of making some money. It is a very simple game and at the same time a very boring game (compared to, say, craps and roulette). However, it is as close to a 50-50 game (banker versus player)  that you will get in a casino and at the same time it is also a very heavily trend-based game that offers good opportunities to exploit these trends.

So I would strongly suggest to you that you discard this notion (or illusion) of making money from roulette. Instead, take a serious look at both poker and baccarat (especially, the latter) and see how you feel about these games. Getting up to speed with poker will take a lot of time, so baccarat is probably the best option for you at this moment in terms of making money in a gambling game.

I don't know which country you live in but, hopefully, baccarat is available either online or at a local gambling establishment near where you live.

Thank you! I will give a try
Title: Re: Strategy help
Post by: Andre Chass on Aug 13, 04:54 PM 2017
nottophammer

I did not understand how to play your system. Could you explain me, please?
Title: Re: Strategy help
Post by: Andre Chass on Aug 13, 05:08 PM 2017
Quote from: ego on Aug 13, 12:14 PM 2017
I could tell you about a selection method that would trippel your money with high probability.
But my morals say i don't want to be part of your hazard game for operating your leg, feels wrong and don't want to be part of it.

What i would suggest is to get two jobs for a short period of time earning two salary.
Keep your day job and take a extra job during early night.

Cheers

Hello ego

I need your help! I,m a teacher and I already work full time night and day.

I'm interested to know about your bet selection and give it a try.

I pay you  teach me your system if you want...
Title: Re: Strategy help
Post by: nottophammer on Aug 13, 05:52 PM 2017
Quote from: Andre Chass on Aug 13, 04:54 PM 2017
nottophammer

I did not understand how to play your system. Could you explain me, please?
Title: Re: Strategy help
Post by: Andre Chass on Aug 14, 01:19 AM 2017
Quote from: Taotie on Aug 13, 06:10 AM 2017
Andre, if you are truly prepared to risk all you have in one single wager to realise the cost of your surgery, then you are probably right to consider putting it all on one bet, either red or black or equivalent.
After that realisation, there is really no possible way for any individual to help you increase your chance of success, as your result will be indisputably (f*ck the zero) 50/50.
So no one can really help you out of your predicament.

If it was me, and I was convinced that one single bet was the only way to resolve my situation, then I would track all the EC’s until at least two of them had four hits in the last five spins. Then I would continue to track all the EC’s until only one EC had four hits in the last five spins then bet the lot on that EC.

I'll do it!
I have 10.000,00 and I need at least double it..
I'm already prepared  to risky 4.000,00 in a single bet.
The other 6.000,00 I will make bets using combinations of systems and strategies. I need to triple this amount in a month ...
Title: Re: Strategy help
Post by: Andre Chass on Aug 14, 01:36 AM 2017
What do u guys think about this system?
Any suggestions?

That's 18 steps.

You are parlaying these steps and looking for a double win before you revert back to the 1st step.

1=4 +3
1=4 +2
2=8 +4
2=8 +2
3=12 +3
4=16 +3
5=20 +2
7=28 +3
9=36 +2
12=48 +2
16=64 +2
22=88 +4
29=116 +3
39=156 +4
52=208 +4
69=276 +3
92=368 +3
123=492 +4

BANKROLL = 488.

Even 18 steps is not enough to be safe looking for a double win. You need DOUBLE that.

Take the 4 different e.c's.

RR RB BB BR,  OO OE EE EO,  LL LH HH HL.

The longest I have seen one of these pairs go missing over the last few years is 32. So that's 64 spins because each of these groups comprises of two spins.

So even using the Rambler, you would need to wait for 14 (28 spins) times to see one of these groups not appear and then attack it knowing that you can only lose your 488 unit bankroll if the group eventually goes missing for a grand total of 32 times (64 spins)

Tracking all three e.c.s will only give you a few bets every 100 spins on average
Title: Re: Strategy help
Post by: Kattila on Aug 14, 03:59 AM 2017
Try this ..... create your own singles or series with splits.
Track both (singles and series) one of them will go with the
pattern ( ababab....) or ( aabbaabb.....) or others series
( aabbbaaabb...)  , ( aaabbaabbb...).
When track for next trigger can use few spins ( ex. 6 or 7
spins) from the previous session.

Progression possitive / levels , rise level after W , down one
or two level(s) after L4  :
1,1,2,4 / 5,7,10,15 / 20, 25,30, 50 / 60,80,100,150.
or other more *light*
1,1,2,4 / 5,6,8,10 / 12,14,16,20 / 25,30,40,60 / 70,90,120,150
(last level optional)


Example singles:

Each group( a and  b ) at least 5 splits.
Bet for max. 4  spins,  W or L4 stop, bet
again after new created trigger, again
bet for max. 4 spins, new trigger......

Split/ pattern


3     a
7     b
16   a
11   b
3     a
15   b
4     a
11   b
13   a
9     b
1     a, bet the last to repeat
7     b   l1
17   a   new  l2
8     b   new  l3
11   b    w


Series example:
Again each group at least 5 splits, and
bet for max . 4 spins , W or L4 stop.

Split / pattern

6     a
2     a
11   b
5     b
11   b
3     a
12   a
18   b
9     b
7     b
6     a
13   a,  bet for singles
3     a   l1
14   a  new  l2
18   b   w
-----------------------------------

Other way is create from splts your own dozens (1,2,3 ) .
You need 9 ( or better 12 )different splits and put them into
123123123(123), now  bet the last two groups to repeat.













Title: Re: Strategy help
Post by: Andre Chass on Aug 14, 03:23 PM 2017
I got it! I got it!

I doubled 4.000,00 in a single bet!

I bet everything in black!!!
Title: Re: Strategy help
Post by: Andre Chass on Aug 14, 03:25 PM 2017
Quote from: Kattila on Aug 14, 03:59 AM 2017
Try this ..... create your own singles or series with splits.
Track both (singles and series) one of them will go with the
pattern ( ababab....) or ( aabbaabb.....) or others series
( aabbbaaabb...)  , ( aaabbaabbb...).
When track for next trigger can use few spins ( ex. 6 or 7
spins) from the previous session.

Progression possitive / levels , rise level after W , down one
or two level(s) after L4  :
1,1,2,4 / 5,7,10,15 / 20, 25,30, 50 / 60,80,100,150.
or other more *light*
1,1,2,4 / 5,6,8,10 / 12,14,16,20 / 25,30,40,60 / 70,90,120,150
(last level optional)


Example singles:

Each group( a and  b ) at least 5 splits.
Bet for max. 4  spins,  W or L4 stop, bet
again after new created trigger, again
bet for max. 4 spins, new trigger......

Split/ pattern


3     a
7     b
16   a
11   b
3     a
15   b
4     a
11   b
13   a
9     b
1     a, bet the last to repeat
7     b   l1
17   a   new  l2
8     b   new  l3
11   b    w


Series example:
Again each group at least 5 splits, and
bet for max . 4 spins , W or L4 stop.

Split / pattern

6     a
2     a
11   b
5     b
11   b
3     a
12   a
18   b
9     b
7     b
6     a
13   a,  bet for singles
3     a   l1
14   a  new  l2
18   b   w
-----------------------------------

Other way is create from splts your own dozens (1,2,3 ) .
You need 9 ( or better 12 )different splits and put them into
123123123(123), now  bet the last two groups to repeat.

Thank you very much! I'LL give it a try!!!
Title: Re: Strategy help
Post by: RouletteGhost on Aug 14, 04:46 PM 2017
I can't believe people on this forum are contributing to this topic

If you lose, then you will have even less money. Imagine how you will feel if you are unlucky and lose and you are even deeper in a hole

Roulette is not to be used to fund surgeries. Stop this mayhem.

This is how people become gambling junkies like Mr J.

If you take this path then I wish you luck. But, something tells me that you are going to be playing with money you CANT afford to lose and that's foolish.
Title: Re: Strategy help
Post by: Andre Chass on Aug 14, 05:01 PM 2017
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Aug 14, 04:46 PM 2017
I can't believe people on this forum are contributing to this topic

If you lose, then you will have even less money. Imagine how you will feel if you are unlucky and lose and you are even deeper in a hole

Roulette is not to be used to fund surgeries. Stop this mayhem.

This is how people become gambling junkies like Mr J.

If you take this path then I wish you luck. But, something tells me that you are going to be playing with money you CANT afford to lose and that's foolish.

First of all I will not make that kind of bet anymore. It was only this time.

Second, I thank the people who helped me and contributed to this topic.

Now I will only bet using systems and strategies. I hope to receive more help and examples of effective roulette systems.

Thank you all!
Title: Re: Strategy help
Post by: Steve on Aug 14, 06:40 PM 2017
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Aug 14, 04:46 PM 2017
I can't believe people on this forum are contributing to this topic

If you lose, then you will have even less money. Imagine how you will feel if you are unlucky and lose and you are even deeper in a hole

Roulette is not to be used to fund surgeries. Stop this mayhem.

This is how people become gambling junkies like Mr J.

If you take this path then I wish you luck. But, something tells me that you are going to be playing with money you CANT afford to lose and that's foolish.

Why do u think there's a big red warning at the top? But chances are someone desperate for money will still ignore it.

Many players contact me asking how to make money for things like urgently paying debt, winning back losses, surgery and all. I explain i don't take such players because they tend to rush, make mistakes then worsen their problem.
Title: Re: Strategy help
Post by: Taotie on Aug 14, 06:41 PM 2017
Quote from: Andre Chass on Aug 14, 03:23 PM 2017
I got it! I got it!

I doubled 4.000,00 in a single bet!

I bet everything in black!!!

Good. Now go get your knee fixed before you spend it.
Title: Re: Strategy help
Post by: Steve on Aug 14, 06:46 PM 2017
Listen to taotie. This time you were lucky on frankly a stupid bet. Dont get the gambling bug. Luck can go the other way.
Title: Re: Strategy help
Post by: cht on Aug 14, 07:16 PM 2017
Get you knee fixed, forget about casino and gambling for at least a decade. Don't visit gambling forums like this ever!
Title: Re: Strategy help
Post by: Andre Chass on Aug 14, 07:20 PM 2017
Quote from: Steve on Aug 14, 06:46 PM 2017
Listen to taotie. This time you were lucky on frankly a stupid bet. Dont get the gambling bug. Luck can go the other way.

Don't worry about me. I'm a responsible man and would never bet money that I can not afford.

I'm aware of the risk I ran and I will never do it again. At least not so soon ...

From now on I'll try new strategies and systems and see if I can get something ...

Thanks for the advise and support!
Title: Re: Strategy help
Post by: Andre Chass on Aug 14, 07:25 PM 2017
Quote from: cht on Aug 14, 07:16 PM 2017
Get you knee fixed, forget about casino and gambling for at least a decade. Don't visit gambling forums like this ever!

Yes, I'll do it!

But why forget about gambling or visit gambling forums?

I like it!
Title: Re: Strategy help
Post by: RouletteGhost on Aug 14, 07:43 PM 2017
So you put four thousand on black. And it hit

Well one thing is for sure, I'm glad you didn't lose it

Title: Re: Strategy help
Post by: cht on Aug 14, 07:55 PM 2017
Quote from: Andre Chass on Aug 14, 07:25 PM 2017
Yes, I'll do it!

But why forget about gambling or visit gambling forums?

I like it!
Have you seen women sell their cunt for a bet at the tables ?

Have you seen dead bodies at the casino, hung themselves in their rooms, jump off the window, etc....

The next time, you won't lose 4,000 it'll be 40,000 and god forbid what else. That's a sure bet, casino win you lose, I'm not joking!

Title: Re: Strategy help
Post by: Andre Chass on Aug 14, 08:01 PM 2017
Yeah, right on  black!
I almost passed out from being so nervous. But I did it !

Now I will bet responsibly using systems and strategies.

I would like somebody to suggest the best strategies. Please!

Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: Strategy help
Post by: Andre Chass on Aug 14, 08:03 PM 2017
Quote from: cht on Aug 14, 07:55 PM 2017
Have you seen women sell their c*** for a bet at the tables ?

Have you seen dead bodies at the casino, hung themselves in their rooms, jump off the window, etc....

The next time, you won't lose 4,000 it'll be 40,000 and god forbid what else. That's a sure bet, casino win you lose, I'm not joking!

I'm 46 and I'm not a stupid kid....

So what are u doing here?

Thanks for the advice!
Title: Re: Strategy help
Post by: 3Nine on Aug 14, 08:04 PM 2017
Yikes. 

This isn't going to end well.
Title: Re: Strategy help
Post by: Andre Chass on Aug 14, 08:07 PM 2017
Quote from: 3Nine on Aug 14, 08:04 PM 2017
Yikes. 

This isn't going to end well.

Don't worry about me. I'm a responsible man and would never bet money that I can not afford.

I'm aware of the risk I ran and I will never do it again. At least not so soon ...

From now on I'll try new strategies and systems and see if I can get something ...

Thanks for the advice
Title: Re: Strategy help
Post by: Steve on Aug 14, 08:29 PM 2017
QuoteHave you seen women sell their c*** for a bet at the tables ?

How much? Which casino?
Title: Re: Strategy help
Post by: RouletteGhost on Aug 14, 08:52 PM 2017
betting four thousand on a color, and winning must be a great feeling

embrace it

and dont do it again lol
Title: Re: Strategy help
Post by: Andre Chass on Aug 14, 08:59 PM 2017
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Aug 14, 08:52 PM 2017
betting four thousand on a color, and winning must be a great feeling

embrace it

and dont do it again lol

What a feeling!!!

I'm laughing so far...

Thanks for the advice!
Title: Re: Strategy help
Post by: RouletteGhost on Aug 14, 09:01 PM 2017
my advice is simple

you won 4 thousand

thats winnings

now only use that!
Title: Re: Strategy help
Post by: Andre Chass on Aug 14, 09:04 PM 2017
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Aug 14, 09:01 PM 2017
my advice is simple

you won 4 thousand

thats winnings

now only use that!

Now I'm thinking using this system with 2 recovery levels.

That's 18 steps.

You are parlaying these steps and looking for a double win before you revert back to the 1st step.

1=4 +3
1=4 +2
2=8 +4
2=8 +2
3=12 +3
4=16 +3
5=20 +2
7=28 +3
9=36 +2
12=48 +2
16=64 +2
22=88 +4
29=116 +3
39=156 +4
52=208 +4
69=276 +3
92=368 +3
123=492 +4

BANKROLL = 488.

Take the 4 different e.c's.

RR RB BB BR,  OO OE EE EO,  LL LH HH HL.

The longest I have seen one of these pairs go missing over the last few years is 32. So that's 64 spins because each of these groups comprises of two spins.

So even using the Rambler, you would need to wait for 14 (28 spins) times to see one of these groups not appear and then attack it knowing that you can only lose your 488 unit bankroll if the group eventually goes missing for a grand total of 32 times (64 spins)

Any suggestions?
Title: Re: Strategy help
Post by: Steve on Aug 14, 09:08 PM 2017
Andre, in honor of your good fortune, I created a custom avatar for you. Feel free to change it. It only took a minute to make.

I hope you dont make such risky bets again
Title: Re: Strategy help
Post by: Andre Chass on Aug 14, 09:13 PM 2017
Quote from: Steve on Aug 14, 09:08 PM 2017
Andre, in honor of your good fortune, I created a custom avatar for you. Feel free to change it. It only took a minute to make.

I hope you dont make such risky bets again

Lucky bastard? Lol... Thank you man!!!
Title: Re: Strategy help
Post by: Steve on Aug 14, 09:18 PM 2017
No problem.

Also if you are looking to learn the basics of what works and doesn't, see :.roulettephysics.com/roulette-strategy/

Most of us know what does and doesn't work in the long term. There are methods that do work long term but they aren't for everyone.

The thing with betting progressions is you can get lucky and win back losses, or lose the lot plus more. I'm sure you know that already, but I'm also sure at one point we've all been hit with that reality. As per the red warning at the top, you will often get bad advice.

As you said, you're not a child. Just would hate to see you resort to a budget surgeon in Thailand.
Title: Re: Strategy help
Post by: DoctorSudoku on Aug 15, 07:39 PM 2017
Quote from: Steve on Aug 14, 09:18 PM 2017


The thing with betting progressions is you can get lucky and win back losses, or lose the lot plus more.


Steve,
That is why you need to clearly mention the danger of using progressions in your red-lettered warning at the top of the page. At present, it just mentions systems, but I think the danger of employing progressions is so great that it needs to be explicitly listed there as well.
Title: Re: Strategy help
Post by: Steve on Aug 15, 07:45 PM 2017
I'm about to change the site theme (but anyone will be able to change it back themselves just for them), then I'll see where a warning will fit in. I might not have time to do it all today. There's a lot new players need to be aware of, so I'll direct them to advice on multiple parts.
Title: Re: Strategy help
Post by: Andre Chass on Aug 15, 09:00 PM 2017
Quote from: nottophammer on Aug 13, 02:47 PM 2017
Lets look at betting from spin 1 and then bet every spin till 37 have been done. You'll need 703 units. The #'s =666, plus we need to bet 37 on last bet, so 703.
On this game we hit with #27, so as no new # we in crease to 2 units, if go to 5 we'll be betting more than the 703 at 1 units, is that right.
Now if we just use 1,2,3 we'd still use 703 units, so we need 20 wins of 1 win value 35-1 or 36 which ever way you like, to get 720 units.

Would this  work

Have you tried this system yet? Is it a reasonably safe system? I wanted to place bets but I do not know which system to use.
Title: Re: Strategy help
Post by: Steve on Aug 16, 05:32 AM 2017
Most systems are as good as each other. It just depends on the spins you get.
Title: Re: Strategy help
Post by: vladir on Aug 16, 11:14 AM 2017
Quote from: Andre Chass on Aug 14, 08:01 PM 2017
Yeah, right on  black!
I almost passed out from being so nervous. But I did it !

Now I will bet responsibly using systems and strategies.

I would like somebody to suggest the best strategies. Please!

Thanks in advance!


All strategies I know of lose long term. They are all equally good (or bad). It all really depends on your betselection.
If it's good enough, any strat will be good with it. Heck you don't even need a strategy if you have a good selection method. Having a good selection is the HG - and no, I don't have it!


Title: Re: Strategy help
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Aug 16, 11:31 AM 2017
With $4K you could go into Forex or REITs (Real Estate)-perhaps even Steve H.'s business as part owner. (just a thought)  :)