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Roulette-focused => Multiplayer Roulette Game => Topic started by: maestro on Aug 26, 12:36 PM 2017

Title: MPR
Post by: maestro on Aug 26, 12:36 PM 2017
can player IOWNATM either use ready for faster spins or fuckss off so others can play ....thanks
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Aug 26, 04:36 PM 2017
so you want it fast again, just had 60 spins and 28 non-hit in 40 spins and 35 in 60 spins, just be fast for the cheat algorithm it uses  :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on Aug 26, 06:52 PM 2017
notto i do not give a f*** about non hits or hits in whatever spin frame i want to use ready for fast spins not some shitty bot to take over
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Aug 26, 07:04 PM 2017
M
Wally on just now and 65 spins, at 40 spins had 22, -3 to avg, but at 60th spins 31 had come and 65th 32nd had come, every visit starts 10/10 i wonder why?
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on Aug 27, 02:50 PM 2017
and one more pice of wank.."plolp"..fecking bot
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: praline on Aug 27, 04:22 PM 2017
Why you care about this multiplayer game?
As i understand you don't need free spins.
All your posts are pointing to the fact that you aren't looking for a "winning system".
Just curiouse... Are you using this mpr for testings?
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on Aug 27, 05:12 PM 2017
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As i understand you don't need free spins

yes..i want fast spins

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All your posts are pointing to the fact that you aren't looking for a "winning system".
Just curiouse... Are you using this mpr for testings?

i dont look for anything...and MPR i like it because is pile of shitt..
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: praline on Aug 27, 05:48 PM 2017
Kак всегда исчерпывающий ответ.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: praline on Aug 27, 05:51 PM 2017
yes..i want fast spins
Rx can help you more then mpr
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on Aug 27, 06:20 PM 2017
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Kак всегда исчерпывающий ответ.


как обычно..ничего особенного
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: praline on Aug 27, 06:29 PM 2017
что тебя держит на форуме?
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: plolp on Aug 27, 06:49 PM 2017

I am not a bot .
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on Aug 27, 06:56 PM 2017
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что тебя держит на форуме?


ничего


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I am not a bot

sure you are not...you are from France
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: plolp on Aug 27, 07:51 PM 2017

But.... Almost .
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on Aug 30, 10:15 AM 2017
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But.... Almost



yeah Almost you have wining system...as you said on chat at MPR..
and why the f*** when you play there my spins are so f****** slow..
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Aug 30, 05:53 PM 2017


yeah Almost you have wining system...as you said on chat at MPR..
and why the f*** when you play there my spins are so f****** slow..
dont matter whether fast or slow M, still load of bollox, every visit till this last one has been fast, now blocks of 10 spins follow same 8/10, 6,+1, 14,+4     8/10, 6,+1, 14,+4    8/10, 6,+1, 14,+4
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on Sep 11, 05:06 PM 2017
in minus... :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Sep 11, 05:45 PM 2017
you should be on hottie #4
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on Sep 11, 06:52 PM 2017
many can go to <0> but not  many to -1000.... :xd: :xd: :xd: :xd: :xd:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Sep 11, 08:08 PM 2017
Well done maestro!
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on Nov 25, 12:26 AM 2017
Steve can you look at your MPR game as sometimes spits out 2 numbers at once..thx
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: DoctorSudoku on Nov 25, 02:30 AM 2017

many can go to <0> but not  many to -1000.... :xd: :xd: :xd: :xd: :xd:



Great achievement -- no wonder they call you the "maestro."
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on Nov 25, 02:34 AM 2017
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Great achievement


 :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: you have seen nothing yet :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: DoctorSudoku on Nov 25, 04:30 AM 2017

 :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: you have seen nothing yet :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:


Certainly hope so -- you need to keep bettering your previous records ...... otherwise, you ain't a "maestro."
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on Dec 05, 10:24 PM 2017
Steve can you please look at MPR game as sometimes draws two numbers at one bet ...so say if i bet on red and draws 2 blacks  i will be down 2 chips and same as win i will win two times...thanks
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Dec 06, 01:55 AM 2017
I don't see how its possible to lose 2x from one bet. The software wouldn't allow it. Please see if you can screen record it happening.

If 2 spins happen quickly its because of your connection to server. What  internet connection do you have exactly?
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on Dec 06, 02:33 AM 2017
i will try to record it
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Dec 06, 03:54 PM 2017
steve as MPR is like the real thing can you put the racetrack on with the named bets as well
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: DoctorSudoku on Dec 06, 04:46 PM 2017

I don't see how its possible to lose 2x from one bet. The software wouldn't allow it. Please see if you can screen record it happening.



We are talking about the "maestro" here -- just recently he managed to get his bank roll to -1000 (see above in this thread) !

So losing 2X in one bet is child's play to him !   :twisted: :twisted:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Dec 06, 05:22 PM 2017
Thats by resetting bankroll with bets on table. It doesnt affect the win or loss rate at all.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on Dec 07, 12:37 AM 2017
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So losing 2X in one bet is child's play to him !


exactly... :xd: :xd:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Dec 07, 11:10 PM 2017
It does happen sometimes that the game shoots two numbers at you - BLAT, BLAT, just like that.

I not sure if it takes your money twice or pays out twice, but it does happen and when it does it's very annoying, especially when you are deep into a progression and the second BLAT is the 'get out' number you've been waiting for.

I'm not saying it's going to make you a winner or a loser, I'm saying it's very annoying, and enough to make players reluctant to carry on.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Dec 08, 02:00 AM 2017
I've seen it too. The numbers are in order.  Its probably just lag but ill have closer look when i have time
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Dec 08, 04:11 AM 2017
steve are you going to give the race track or not as to easy to place large number ofchips, but then Mr J would allow this as its in the real world of roulette
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Dec 08, 05:51 AM 2017
steve are you going to give the race track or not as to easy to place large number ofchips, but then Mr J would allow this as its in the real world of roulette

I'd prefer a more simple 2x bet button, I'm sure others would too.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Lucky7Red on Dec 08, 03:08 PM 2017
I've seen it too. The numbers are in order.  Its probably just lag but ill have closer look when i have time
It hiting two numbers in a row and you lose twice or win twice, it happend to me just now.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Dec 08, 05:57 PM 2017
yep see it as well
Steve are you going to get the race track put on, its in Mr J's world so its real, cough
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Dec 08, 09:07 PM 2017
Nothing in Mr Joke's world is real, but yes we'll add it when i get the new programmer
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Dec 09, 02:33 AM 2017
Nothing in Mr Joke's world is real, but yes we'll add it when i get the new programmer
Thank you
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on Dec 18, 09:10 AM 2017
what a CuNttttttttttt
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Roulettebeater on Dec 18, 09:16 AM 2017

shit shit shit.
why the 0 is alternating so much?
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on Dec 18, 09:33 AM 2017
because this is what numbers do :xd: :xd: :xd:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Dec 29, 04:24 AM 2017
On MPR.
Unless you keep the score of the non-hit, you would not see this.
Most is over 40 spins, which covers the law of the third.
So here is 19 individual games spread out over yesterday, is there software watching?
1st game is 8/10,     6,+1      10, +0       26, +3    So 1st10 gave 8 non-hit, so expect 15 more non-hit over next 30 spins, should come in 3 groups of 5, for even distribution.
Game     Spins 1-10     11-20     21-30     31-40
G1.              8/10            6, +1       10, +0     26, +3, so in spins 11-40, 18 non-hit came. 3 more than the
                                                                                       15 expected.
G2.             9/10             6, +1       12, +2     23, -1
G3.             8/10             8, +3       14, +4     26, +3
G4.             10/10           6, +1       13, +3
G5.             8/10             6, +1       10, +0      22, -1
G6.             10/10           6, +1       12, +2      25, +0
G7.             8/10             8, +3        14, +4     27, +4
G8.             7/10             9, +4        13, +3     26, +4
G9.             10/10           7, +2
G10.           10/10           5, +0        11, +1     24, -1 
G11.           10/10           6, +1        12, +2
G12.             9/10           6, +1         13, +3     28, +4
G13.             9/10            4, -1         13, +3 
G14.             7/10           6, +1         13, +3 
G15.           10/10           7, +2           9, -1      25, +0
G16.           10/10           6, +1         12, +2     26, +1
G17.             8/10           6, +1         13, +3     26, +3
G18.           10/10            2, -3            5, -5     20, -5   So here we had only 10 more non-hit in 30 spins

In G18. spins 11-20 only 2 non-hit found, it took 7 spins to find a non-hit, and spin 20 had the 2nd non-hit, making -3 on the expected 5.  The G18, game took a good part of the days winnings, so is software watching the players winnings?

Title: Re: MPR
Post by: DoctorSudoku on Dec 29, 10:46 AM 2017

why the 0 is alternating so much?


I have seen the 0 and 00 alternate five times in a span of nine spins at a dealer-spun wheel.

When it comes to roulette, anything that can happen may -- indeed -- very well happen !
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Jan 02, 12:43 AM 2018
(https://www.rouletteforum.cc/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pichost.org%2Fimages%2F2018%2F01%2F02%2Ftemp_768696.png&hash=975e4cd037d9184434cfbc0127772f10) (http://www.pichost.org/image/oJ8Z)

Heres the man stevieboy, wonder what the Turbo genius will say
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Jan 02, 01:13 AM 2018
At least paganini might wake benfica up for a game.  :)
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Jan 02, 01:24 AM 2018
paganini is the real maestro!
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on Jan 03, 06:10 PM 2018
with broken violin... :xd:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Lucky7Red on Jan 04, 04:13 PM 2018
Cool to play repeaters  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Jan 04, 05:31 PM 2018
(https://www.rouletteforum.cc/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pichost.org%2Fimages%2F2018%2F01%2F04%2Ftemp_521342.png&hash=1b07728d298b645c7d822a641a231656) (http://www.pichost.org/image/vCxA)
Remember number reverse, well # 31 dontbet for 13,just bet black,win. #21 so bet red,win. #23 bet red not the 32,win. well #31 so bet black, win.
There you go Mr J. something to bet as your trying to complete your street or some other goof idea
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Lucky7Red on Jan 05, 04:37 AM 2018
Thanks. But who is Mr.J?
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Jan 05, 06:40 PM 2018
steve whens the race track coming ?
Lucky someone who use to post, look him up i'll leave it to you, cough :xd:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on Jan 14, 11:54 AM 2018
why i cannot log in to MPR game
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Jan 14, 03:54 PM 2018
Theres no reason i know of for login problems. Programmer is still learning the existing code then will make mods
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Lucky7Red on Jan 14, 04:53 PM 2018
why i cannot log in to MPR game
You can not login because you are already logged in, you should log out first, try with chrome.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on Jan 14, 05:05 PM 2018
no is not that either browser does not go...
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Jan 14, 08:00 PM 2018
maestro you are logged on to MPR.

Can you try turning off your devices for 10 minutes or so then turn back on and see if you are able to log in again?
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Jan 14, 08:20 PM 2018
Also, is it possible someone has hacked your MPR account and is permanently logged in to stuff you and everyone else around?
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on Jan 14, 08:51 PM 2018
now seems ok...about hack could be ...hope they find something good there but i do not think sooooo... :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: plolp on Jan 15, 08:08 AM 2018
@ maestro :  you connect and you do not play
you don't use "ready".
Are you sick ?
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on Jan 15, 11:00 AM 2018
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@ maestro :  you connect and you do not play
you don't use "ready".
Are you sick ?

plolpy you should think with your head a bit..how many times you see me in MPR and not betting or asking for ready function to be used..is some low life c*** into my account so is up to Mods or Admin on site to see what is going on....sooo chilllax
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on Jan 15, 11:46 AM 2018
and one more thing @Steve...i did new account and play few spins but account is nowhere on the board :question: :question:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on Jan 15, 12:04 PM 2018
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and one more thing @Steve...i did new account and play few spins but account is nowhere on the board


i got it Steve is ok..silly me
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: DoctorSudoku on Jan 15, 09:02 PM 2018

silly me



At last you have realized something about yourself that we have always known about you!

 :twisted:   :twisted:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on Jan 16, 03:47 AM 2018
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At last you have realized something about yourself that we have always known about you!

 :twisted:   :twisted:

you are soooooo wise
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Lucky7Red on Jan 16, 06:17 AM 2018
What a bollox
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: JimmieB on Jan 16, 06:34 AM 2018
Luckily I was on the 12 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on Jan 16, 02:43 PM 2018
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What a bollox

exactly....lol..now i cannot even play there as soon as i log in pulls 1 number and stops :question:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on Jan 16, 05:24 PM 2018
@Steve...can you please look at my account in MPR as i cannot log in most of the time and when i log does not spin it freezes....if it has been hacked or some other moron uses it can you sort it out if is too much just delete it i will open new one...thanks
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on Jan 17, 05:34 AM 2018
this is what i meant @Steve
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Jan 17, 05:44 AM 2018
Fake maestro is still logged on and playing MPR.

Real maestro, can you do us a favour and turn off your computer so we can see if Fake maestro disappears?

If you see this, please post a reply saying you will turn off now?

Thanks.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on Jan 17, 05:55 AM 2018
yeah i will do it now
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Jan 17, 06:21 AM 2018
thanks

Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Jan 17, 07:15 AM 2018
Are they actually betting, ie account balance changing? If you clear all browser data and log on, then it boots off anyone else logged in with your name.

Unless you used an easily guessed password, this is not likely someone else using your account.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Lucky7Red on Jan 17, 12:50 PM 2018
this is what i meant @Steve
[18:38][System]: Welcome to the table,
[18:45][sicktothebone]: no maestro...thats good
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on Jan 17, 01:05 PM 2018
was me with other account i have done
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Jan 17, 02:35 PM 2018
3 sessions today
       1-10   11-20    21-30    31-40
1. 10/10;   5, +0;   12; +2,   28; +3
2.   8/10;   7, +2;   14; +4,   27; +4
3. 10/10;   7, +2;   14; +4,   28; +3
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Jan 17, 05:32 PM 2018
another 2
            1-10   11-20    21-30    31-40

4.         8/10   6; +1,    11; +1,  24; +1

5.         9/10   5; +0      9; -1     24; +0

Remember 15 is avg for spins 11-40
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Jan 17, 06:00 PM 2018
Steve like Maestro just keeps crashing cleared browser but no luck hows race track coming on?
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Jan 17, 06:33 PM 2018
Maestro +22 roulette simulator as bad as MPR
(https://www.rouletteforum.cc/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pichost.org%2Fimages%2F2018%2F01%2F17%2Ftemp_489189.png&hash=599f073ae169a7df1450b7fc9e52f061) (http://www.pichost.org/image/yKL0)
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Lucky7Red on Jan 18, 10:38 AM 2018
Fake maestro is on the race again.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Feb 08, 06:26 PM 2018
empty everyone gave up on MPR
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Feb 08, 06:33 PM 2018
No, just everyone left when they saw you show up
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Feb 08, 06:41 PM 2018
dont  they like a winner on there then
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Feb 08, 06:43 PM 2018
(https://www.rouletteforum.cc/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pichost.org%2Fimages%2F2018%2F02%2F08%2Ftemp_685236.png&hash=e4e964f8b496c4aa01c1f56d69790d3a) (http://www.pichost.org/image/G6Iql)
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Feb 08, 06:51 PM 2018
Give it to Turbo
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Lucky7Red on Feb 09, 02:50 AM 2018
empty everyone gave up on MPR
I left because cant see the list of first 20 so it looks boring to me :(
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Feb 09, 02:58 AM 2018
It was removed because its at www.rouletteplayers.org/leaderboard

Good example of cant please everyone
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Feb 12, 09:48 PM 2018
Steve,
Any chance you could move the live chat & message box over and up to where the leaderboard was?

As it is, it's a bit cluttered over on the left hand side of the screen.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Feb 12, 10:49 PM 2018
Try zooming page. I have the programmer working on other things for now so its a bit messy to change his focus for now
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Feb 12, 11:02 PM 2018
no worries maybe later
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Feb 23, 03:10 AM 2018
MPR is all messed up. The highlighted shading is out of alignment and makes it very difficult to place bets properly. The confusion is slowing down bet placement to the point where it's not worth bothering to play.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Feb 23, 05:12 AM 2018
Ready button is an issue with me, yeah steve cleared cache and all,  come back and happens again. Actually be better if not available.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Feb 27, 03:59 AM 2018
Highlight shading is still off register, more so as you move down the carpet. Very difficult to place bets accurately when under pressure of 30 seconds limit.
It really is a game killer if you ask me.
Surely this should be fixed?
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on Feb 27, 04:27 AM 2018
no need to be fixed as all players we have shitttty internet conneeeectttions and Steves server it does not lag and does not f*** up...does not do wrong counts....never mind we can reach any server around globe and stream and download in seconds ..players are stupid and Steve is is very smart...never mind he does not understand some things he just ignores them as it is much more easier... :yawn: :yawn:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Feb 27, 04:29 AM 2018
Highlight shading is still off register, more so as you move down the carpet. Very difficult to place bets accurately when under pressure of 30 seconds limit.
It really is a game killer if you ask me.
Surely this should be fixed?

Exactly what do you mean? Can you post screenshots?

The alignment was already fixed. Clear your browser cache to delete the old css files.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Feb 27, 04:42 AM 2018
Maestro you really talk shit. Stop blaming me for your win rate and rank. You might have better luck on roulette simulator. Everyone does great there, just like real casinos.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Feb 27, 04:55 AM 2018
I checked and the alignment seems ok for me. So it must be your cache

(https://www.rouletteforum.cc/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pichost.org%2Fimages%2F2018%2F02%2F27%2Ftemp_636578.png&hash=969194b51456a0bf732fc5ba8efa4273) (http://www.pichost.org/image/GRvYZ)

Let me know clearing cache doesnt fix it
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Feb 27, 04:58 AM 2018
If you meant the racetrack, that alignment is out a bit. Its not so simple to make perfect but I'll see if I can make it better
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Feb 27, 05:09 AM 2018
I made it better but its not perfect because it uses technology that's compatible with android, ipads, basically anything that connects to the internet. So we need to use tables, which means we sacrifice a bit of alignment for compatibility.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on Feb 27, 06:10 AM 2018
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Maestro you really talk shit. Stop blaming me for your win rate and rank. You might have better luck on roulette simulator. Everyone does great there, just like real casinos.

i do not blame you..my win rate is just fine do not worry...
and yes i do talk shitt when i deal with shittt...but you are shittttt talker by default
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: ZERO on Feb 27, 06:17 AM 2018
How does one register to play MPR?
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on Feb 27, 07:24 AM 2018
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You might have better luck on roulette simulator


what like this.... :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Lucky7Red on Feb 27, 07:36 AM 2018
How does one register to play MPR?
Here you go http://www.rouletteplayers.org/register

Try your luck like maestro did.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: ZERO on Feb 27, 07:49 AM 2018
Thanks Lucky!
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Feb 27, 11:04 PM 2018
I checked and the alignment seems ok for me. So it must be your cache

(https://www.rouletteforum.cc/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pichost.org%2Fimages%2F2018%2F02%2F27%2Ftemp_636578.png&hash=969194b51456a0bf732fc5ba8efa4273) (http://www.pichost.org/image/GRvYZ)

Let me know clearing cache doesnt fix it


It seems to be good now. Didn't need to clear the cache and the problem was happening on two different computers so not sure why it was all messed up.
Thanks for checking/fixing.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: sugtips on Mar 12, 02:27 PM 2018
There's a bot stuck at MPR. Can someone do anything for it.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Normy2000 on Mar 12, 03:01 PM 2018
Yes: wschoonover4 is jam there for 10-12 hours now!
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Mar 12, 03:45 PM 2018
whats wrong with 30 sec spin, why not go to R-Sim and use the timer 5 sec spins, then you'd be as happy as pigs in shit :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Mar 12, 10:20 PM 2018
How do you know for sure they arent a bot? They could have just left their computer on idle with the game in the background. Check their progress on leaderboard and if it never changes the whole time (refresh page), then that's what probably happened.

We could implement an auto-kick function. If the player makes no bets for X amount of spins they'll be kicked. It's only a partial solution though.

Anyone else have an idea?
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Mar 12, 10:23 PM 2018
why not go to R-Sim and use the timer 5 sec spins, then you'd be as happy as pigs in shit

RS is a different approach to MPR. And those betting charts being posted are useless considering anyone can change the table betting limits. Plus MPR uses real spins, and uses proper stats that matter, so is a much more realistic way to compare systems. Nobody stopping anyone from using either. I could make an offline version of MPR (like RS) but then it would be easy to cheat, considering your local PC generates the winning number.

RS is more a game. MPR is more a simulation.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Bigbroben on Mar 13, 07:01 AM 2018
Does anyone knows a r-simulator that has a Shift+Click function that works to reduce bets on a number?  Roulette-Simulator works fine, but it takes long to reduce stakes on 18 nrs...
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: reiand91 on Mar 13, 10:31 AM 2018
Does anyone knows a r-simulator that has a Shift+Click function that works to reduce bets on a number?  Roulette-Simulator works fine, but it takes long to reduce stakes on 18 nrs...
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on Mar 13, 04:42 PM 2018
Quote
RS is a different approach to MPR. And those betting charts being posted are useless considering anyone can change the table betting limits. Plus MPR uses real spins, and uses proper stats that matter, so is a much more realistic way to compare systems. Nobody stopping anyone from using either. I could make an offline version of MPR (like RS) but then it would be easy to cheat, considering your local PC generates the winning number

why not ...numbers are random

and RS is not offline if you do not have wifi it will not send number.. :question:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Mar 13, 09:05 PM 2018
You can download the game's javascript and it has random functions, specifically like return (Math.random() * (a - b + 1)))

I haven't fully looked into how they are using the javascript random functions. The winning numbers may be server-side, or user-side. The server needs to be contacted to send data for the charts. Anyone could inspect the data with a program like wireshark.

Unfortunately I don't have time to look further. Either way I don't think the RS game is using proper random numbers, which is why there are so many big winners. It has nothing to do with playing more frequent spins than MPR because more frequent spins only changes the rate of loss.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on Mar 13, 09:10 PM 2018
fair enough
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Mar 18, 01:19 PM 2018
(https://www.rouletteforum.cc/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pichost.org%2Fimages%2F2018%2F03%2F18%2Ftemp_152535.png&hash=5cc8156c2077757169e2a4d2717992e2) (http://www.pichost.org/image/GLXks)
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Mar 18, 04:20 PM 2018
(https://www.rouletteforum.cc/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pichost.org%2Fimages%2F2018%2F03%2F18%2Ftemp_144455.png&hash=c4514939aeed39f0561be1582b76cccf) (http://www.pichost.org/image/GL70U)
On R-Sim happens to often, just like MPR
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Mar 18, 04:28 PM 2018
(https://www.rouletteforum.cc/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pichost.org%2Fimages%2F2018%2F03%2F18%2Ftemp_841427.png&hash=e3e0cc7427d88a0f96f6316d957ce7d7) (http://www.pichost.org/image/GLc55)
Got too laugh, fast game for non-hit, but what did the 1hit's do ?
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Mar 18, 04:33 PM 2018
(https://www.rouletteforum.cc/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pichost.org%2Fimages%2F2018%2F03%2F18%2Ftemp_687101.png&hash=b9591254e1d6ab2340d300bb501a0a09) (http://www.pichost.org/image/GL8kK)
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Mar 18, 04:39 PM 2018
(https://www.rouletteforum.cc/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pichost.org%2Fimages%2F2018%2F03%2F18%2Ftemp_452933.png&hash=3c3139c9e96096a7864e2878ae72f5e4) (http://www.pichost.org/image/GLk0B)
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Mar 18, 09:59 PM 2018
Why bother publishing the result of so few spins? In your chart, your bankroll is mostly flat, then you have one win. Why bother publishing that? It's a serious question.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Roulettebeater on Mar 19, 07:45 AM 2018
Steve
Why your MPR doesn't show you stats and bankroll trends ?

Another issue, why not activate SPIN button ? I can't wait 30 seconds for every spin to occur
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Mar 19, 07:01 PM 2018
Why your MPR doesn't show you stats and bankroll trends ?

I could add it. But bankroll trend charts are almost useless.

MPR shows the amount wagered, amount won, amount of spins played, and most importantly the WIN RATE. If you don't understand the win rate, you need to.

Another issue, why not activate SPIN button ? I can't wait 30 seconds for every spin to occur

If you are playing by yourself, then check the ready box. If other players are playing too, then the next spin happens when you are all check the ready box, or time runs out.

If you are looking to test your system, use roulette extreme.

If you want a fair and realistic way to prove your system, with live chat, use MPR.

If you want a game with ridiculously unrealistic table limits and a potentially flawed RNG source, try RS. I'm not so sure its realistic. There are many red flags. Here's the current #1 winner (BOB). Maybe he has the HG too:

(https://www.rouletteforum.cc/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pichost.org%2Fimages%2F2018%2F03%2F19%2Ftemp_454170.png&hash=3525a0c8e12e662987aa818c8f3ace05) (http://www.pichost.org/image/GmRff)
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Mar 19, 07:06 PM 2018
You can see MPR stats at http://www.rouletteplayers.org/leaderboard/
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Jun on Mar 19, 07:21 PM 2018
Are these real spins from B+M casino's ?

Plus what wheels were these spins taken from ?

Cheers.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Mar 19, 07:53 PM 2018
Why bother publishing the result of so few spins? In your chart, your bankroll is mostly flat, then you have one win. Why bother publishing that? It's a serious question.
(https://www.rouletteforum.cc/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pichost.org%2Fimages%2F2018%2F03%2F19%2Ftemp_598560.png&hash=9dcaa16a32e0bfa21b7f95e5c3024cb7) (http://www.pichost.org/image/GmaQ5)
are you happy with the win rate, just left Maestro and MPR crashing like f*** so guess with the money lost on crash would be better still
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Mar 19, 07:54 PM 2018
Oh yeah is repeats  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Mar 19, 08:03 PM 2018
Jun, spins are from real wheels, added by my players. I only take spins from profiles that are likely to be real wheel spins only. Its a variety of wheels throughout the world, european wheels only.

are you happy with the win rate, just left Maestro and MPR crashing like f*** so guess with the money lost on crash would be better still

Its not hard to get a good win rate in short term. But that alone wont give you a high rank. That's why he's #93
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Roulettebeater on Mar 20, 05:49 AM 2018
I could add it. But bankroll trend charts are almost useless.

MPR shows the amount wagered, amount won, amount of spins played, and most importantly the WIN RATE. If you don't understand the win rate, you need to.

If you are playing by yourself, then check the ready box. If other players are playing too, then the next spin happens when you are all check the ready box, or time runs out.

If you are looking to test your system, use roulette extreme.

If you want a fair and realistic way to prove your system, with live chat, use MPR.

If you want a game with ridiculously unrealistic table limits and a potentially flawed RNG source, try RS. I'm not so sure its realistic. There are many red flags. Here's the current #1 winner (BOB). Maybe he has the HG too:

(https://www.rouletteforum.cc/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pichost.org%2Fimages%2F2018%2F03%2F19%2Ftemp_454170.png&hash=3525a0c8e12e662987aa818c8f3ace05) (http://www.pichost.org/image/GmRff)

What's the difference between MPR and roulette extreme ?
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Mar 20, 05:59 AM 2018
What's the difference between MPR and roulette extreme ?
It dont crash, like MPR does
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Mar 20, 06:33 AM 2018
Stop blaming mpr for your bad system
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Mar 20, 06:42 AM 2018
Steve dont try blaming the methods we use, just sort out your server,
I'll still use it even with the handicap of server crashes
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Mar 20, 07:07 AM 2018
Even with crashes every second spin, you might avoid winning or avoid losing. All it would do, with your system, is make you lose slower.

But there aren't crashes from the server. Otherwise id need to reboot it. The problem is your end, not mpr. But its easier for you to blame mpr for your system.

Ive fully investigated what you call crashes and unless your connection is shitty or pc old, you won't have a problem. If you have problems still, it's your end and nothing i can do. So stop playing there.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: wiggy on Mar 20, 04:38 PM 2018
Here's the current #1 winner (BOB). Maybe he has the HG too:

(https://www.rouletteforum.cc/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pichost.org%2Fimages%2F2018%2F03%2F19%2Ftemp_454170.png&hash=3525a0c8e12e662987aa818c8f3ace05) (http://www.pichost.org/image/GmRff)

He was the no 1.  O0

Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on Mar 23, 05:06 PM 2018
what kind of fecking criterion your score board works :question: :question: :question:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Mar 23, 07:21 PM 2018
ive explained the algorithm and reasons.

whats your problem with it exactly?
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on Mar 23, 08:03 PM 2018
so player plays 200 some spins and loses then another plays 200 some spins and wins but player who lost more for same amount of spins is ranked higher... :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Mar 23, 10:05 PM 2018
The difference is amount wagered.

The rankings are based on win rate, anount wagered and spins played.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on Mar 23, 10:09 PM 2018
and why would say my ranking depends on how much lost some asshole.....your algo for score board is just shittt

amount wagered..means in same amount of spins as another player loser manage to blow more money and this is why he has to be higher ranked :xd: :xd: :xd:

Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Mar 23, 11:38 PM 2018
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and why would say my ranking depends on how much lost some asshole.....

Because your results are compared to the asshole's results. Duh...

Quote
your algo for score board is just shittt

Your brain is shittt. You probably think bankroll should be used to rank alone. The mpr algorithm is balanced and accounts for amount of spins, amount bet, and win rate. So its fair and cant be cheated by short term luck.

If you have a better algorithm, let's hear it. Well?...

I dont see you ranking well with any reasonable algorithm. Sorry.

Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Lucky7Red on Mar 24, 04:19 AM 2018
and why would say my ranking depends on how much lost some asshole.....your algo for score board is just shittt

amount wagered..means in same amount of spins as another player loser manage to blow more money and this is why he has to be higher ranked :xd: :xd: :xd:
This asshole algo is working only for 1000 spins then is better to stop play.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on Mar 24, 05:38 AM 2018
Quote
Your brain is shittt. You probably think bankroll should be used to rank alone. The mpr algorithm is balanced and accounts for amount of spins, amount bet, and win rate. So its fair and cant be cheated by short term luck

i wish my brain was shittt as you pointed then people like you can have some great moments....
i will write it again so migh get it

amount of spins<same>
amount of bets<if two players have same amount of spins and one wager more but have negative score and another player wager less<means bets when he has to >and wins and have positive score<above 1>...then your great algo ranks losing player higher than wining player :xd: :xd: :xd:

in real situation i would like to be in wining player shoes not to the asshole who wagered milion and lost but is higher ranked :yawn: :yawn:

and yeah why you asking me for better algo i thought that one you have is great...or shell we say best to your ability to understand math :thumbsup:


and last never mind my rankings is not about that
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Mar 24, 05:47 AM 2018
This asshole algo is working only for 1000 spins then is better to stop play.

Actually the more players play, the more accurate the algorithm is.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Mar 24, 06:00 AM 2018
Maestro, its not realistically possible to accurately rank with so few spins difference. The algorithm is most accurate at the top, which is where it matters.

Im not the one with problems with math. And again you criticize but dont offer anything better. Typical.

I published the algorithm at the start so anyone can propose a better algorithm. Nobody did. Including you.

So ill ask again. Do you have something better?
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Mar 24, 06:02 AM 2018
Maestro your wasting your time, his head is like Pinocchio, a block of wood
(https://www.rouletteforum.cc/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pichost.org%2Fimages%2F2018%2F03%2F24%2Ftemp_967189.png&hash=52b3f3b0854fdd288174ffcfc9d2e1c4) (http://www.pichost.org/image/Gf70r)
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Mar 24, 06:02 AM 2018
and the more he lies the longer it grows
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on Mar 24, 06:05 AM 2018
Quote
So ill ask again. Do you have something better?

just copy their one it shows performance of actual system without being related to another player...simple

and yeah if i remember Turbo offered Rx too..

Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Mar 24, 06:11 AM 2018
Notto, you're making a dickhead of yourself. Where are the lies? I published the algorithm and equation openly.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Roulettebeater on Mar 24, 06:14 AM 2018
But where do you get the money to finance your forum, MPR, hosting etc from ?

Do you receive donation from members ?

-;$)
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Mar 24, 06:14 AM 2018
Quote
just copy their one it shows performance of actual system without being related to another player...simple

Then look at the win rate alone if you dont like being compared with a fair algorithm. Or the bankrolls.

But they alone arent indicative of a player's long term results, are they?
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Mar 24, 06:15 AM 2018
But where do you get the money to finance your forum, MPR, hosting etc from ?

Do you receive donation from members ?

-;$)

Hosting the forum including domain costs about $50 per year. I get that from busking.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Mar 24, 06:19 AM 2018
Mpr costs about $100/year hosting plus about $5000 to create it. I make nothing from it. Its free for everyones benefit because members asked. We can make it however members want. Thats exactly what we did. Members asked, i did.

Then clowns like maestro and notto dont like their rankings and act like dicks blaming me.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on Mar 24, 06:30 AM 2018
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Then clowns like maestro and notto dont like their rankings and act like dicks blaming me.

i never blame you for any rankings ...if you remember some time ago i did ask you if you can put my ranking to the last place and you said it will be too much of work...so i said do not worry..any way

see Rx 10000 random spins 1$ bet on red...and stats...how simple is that do not need to create hot water again
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Mar 24, 06:38 AM 2018
some time ago i did ask you if you can put my ranking to the last place

Yes you wanted a better excuse for a low rank. If you didnt care about rank, you wouldnt have asked.

Your reasoning was you didnt want people to be upset about your ranking... your low ranking. I mean wtf??

Most of those rx stats ate useless. The parts that matter involve amount lost, amount won, and spins played. Thats what the win rate and rank is on mpr.

If theres significant demand, we can add any stats, charts or whatever.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on Mar 24, 08:18 AM 2018
Quote
Most of those rx stats ate useless.

yeah..RX charts useles
roulette simulator useless
people are stupid because they do not listen to what you say
and so on and on only your understanding is what counts

at the end notto is right...your head is exactly as block of wood

Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on Mar 25, 06:31 AM 2018
i thought RX charts are useless as you said :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Mar 25, 07:06 AM 2018
Long term test results are different to useless stats. I never said rx was useless. I'll help you understand tomorrow :thumbsup:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on Mar 25, 07:27 AM 2018
Quote
Long term test results are different to useless stats. I never said rx was useless. I'll help you understand tomorrow


dont need you to help me with anything...thx a lot :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on Mar 25, 11:23 AM 2018
i guess is better to be at place above than one after.. :xd: :xd: :xd: :xd: :xd: :xd: :xd:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Mar 25, 06:11 PM 2018
yeah..RX charts useles

Maestro, pay attention.

Most RX states ARE useless. I labelled them for you:

(https://www.rouletteforum.cc/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pichost.org%2Fimages%2F2018%2F03%2F25%2Ftemp_346268.png&hash=50f4632c4f1db47837fb0eb970b71c9a) (http://www.pichost.org/image/GhZYV)

Besides drawdown, the only useful states related to "win rate" or amount of spins played - the same factors that MPR uses for rankings. Drawdowns can at least tell you if a player uses progression, and how aggressive it is. Other than that, the drawdown stat it isn't of much use.

Here's the most useful part of RX's stats:

(https://www.rouletteforum.cc/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pichost.org%2Fimages%2F2018%2F03%2F25%2Ftemp_850347.png&hash=7759235f00c538a20e221110182680a1) (http://www.pichost.org/image/GhqiU)

Again it's the win rate, much the same as MPR.

roulette simulator useless

If you mean the bankroll chart, in a game where the betting limits are ridiculously unrealistic, firstly the stats cant be easily compared to a real game with realistic table limits.

But if you are only comparing to other players on RS, and discounting the rather important fact players can reset their stats repeatedly, rated game bankroll trends are a visual representation of amount bet, amount won, and amount of spins played. With RS players can reset stats to make their system seem better than it is. You cant do that with MPR. As anyone can reset and try again, what use are the stats? They are not a proper long-term representation of the player's real results.

people are stupid because they do not listen to what you say

No, they are stupid because they don't understand simple things. I don't know I wasted more time to explain it. I don't decide what the truth is. It is what it is whether you understand it or not.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on Mar 25, 06:52 PM 2018
thanks for your time
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Mar 25, 07:04 PM 2018
Also I've deleted a lot of inactive accounts on MPR. This is because they have played virtually no spins, and their stats make the MPR ranking algorithm less accurate. So the leaderboard has naturally been rearranged a bit.

One thing that's clear is most players havent played a statistically significant amount of spins. The ranking algorithm is weighted so the upper parts of the leaderboard rank most accurately. There are players that have played far less, but have a higher win rate, yet are ranked lower. This is because anyone can get a 2.0 win rate in a few spins. It doesn't mean their system is better.

To rank high, you need to have:

* Played as much spins as other high-rankers
* Wagered as much as high-rankers

AND have a higher win rate than other high-rankers.

Mostly ranks below #20 are not relevant, because there isn't enough data for accurate ranking.

For entertainment, I could modify the ranking algorithm. But then we'll get short term players who rank higher from plain luck. So it wouldn't be as realistic.

The best option I feel is keep the existing algorithm, but regularly remove inactive accounts. If anything though, I can give slightly more weight to win rates, despite lower spin and wagering totals.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Mar 26, 09:43 AM 2018
(https://www.rouletteforum.cc/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pichost.org%2Fimages%2F2018%2F03%2F26%2Ftemp_849889.png&hash=4ed2c8357bf0d9d32ab6c8805f0d0522) (http://www.pichost.org/image/Gilpa)

Not the 1st time.
steve happens on bookie roulette rng, see the #33 as its fast spin of 30 sec's thought laid all when the #33 given, see the BR not gone up as this #33 should have 1 unit, press re-bet and oh, no unit on #33, all other units are there, it only had a choice of 3 #'s to lose on and oh yeah the not covered #33.

Steve it happens on the bookie roulette numerous times, you happen to not put a number of those to be laid and oh look you would win but you've left that # off so the payout would be a win but yes that not laid # is the winner.

But not all doom and gloom still made the +50 units
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Mar 26, 05:10 PM 2018
You wouldnt have put missing bets in time for server to receive them. It happens with any live online casino if connection has latency. Solution is bet earlier.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Mar 26, 05:30 PM 2018
No steve i clicked the 33 and moved to 36, but not looked at screen as writing something, so perhaps i moved to quick for it to register, but the point is it had 3 to choose from plus the missed placement and gave the miss placement.
Steve RNG does the same, so i'd expect no different from yours, so the ? is is it always RNG now, with the all seeing eye on whats bet.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on Mar 28, 02:37 PM 2018
this is how reliable is MPR...just a minute ago :xd: :xd: :xd: :xd: :xd: :xd:


oh i forgot this is normal same as 37 uniques in 37 spins...or maybe is my internet connection :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Mar 28, 02:52 PM 2018
M
Remember he's as bright as the wanker over at GF, DSAA, a right pair of wankers, suppose we'll have some gif's up soon, Yawn,
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Roulettebeater on Mar 28, 02:58 PM 2018

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Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on Mar 28, 03:02 PM 2018
funny enough but got this 19
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Roulettebeater on Mar 28, 03:05 PM 2018
funny enough but got this 19

Steve,

Those numbers are not from real world roulette tables!!!!!!!!!
where do you bring such numbers from?
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Mar 28, 03:14 PM 2018
it a bias wheel quick let DSAA know he'll win millions  :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Mar 30, 05:37 AM 2018
(https://www.rouletteforum.cc/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pichost.org%2Fimages%2F2018%2F03%2F30%2Ftemp_113262.png&hash=8dba92ff157768a1013a2f5870851ac3) (http://www.pichost.org/image/G8tdf)

M he must have stitched that toilet paper again
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: ZERO on Mar 30, 06:58 AM 2018
(https://www.rouletteforum.cc/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pichost.org%2Fimages%2F2018%2F03%2F30%2Ftemp_113262.png&hash=8dba92ff157768a1013a2f5870851ac3) (http://www.pichost.org/image/G8tdf)

M he must have stitched that toilet paper again

But look at those lovely repeaters...  :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Mar 30, 07:02 AM 2018
Yes but as only player do you think i'd recieve those spins if betting for repeats, lots of players don't believe in MPR, Maestro and myself
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on Apr 14, 05:41 PM 2018
@Steve ..why do not increase betting limits say 300 max on straight numbers
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Apr 15, 03:46 AM 2018
Well here's the kind of shit this MPR game does....

I have a 6000 unit bankroll, I bet 2000 on black, #13 shows and the game freezes, I wait 5 minutes... nothing. I don't want to close the browser because I have a 2000 unit win frozen in limbo, I eventually decide to open a new browser and log in with another account to get the game going again, the game gets going and #32 shows. I quickly switch back to the original browser and see #32 as latest result. So the game froze, scrapped my winning bet, retained my original wager on black, then took my money on the #32 result. So now I have a 4000 unit bankroll where I should have an 8000 unit bankroll.

This is the type of glitch, and there are many other glitches, that seriously contribute to why no one can seem to beat the MPR game.

As if roulette is not impossible enough to beat, we also have to negotiate the myriad of chimpanzee shit throwing glitches that this game endlessly tosses up.


Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Apr 15, 04:19 AM 2018
Actually the combined win rate is the same as any fair roulette. If there are glitches, as they are in real online casinos because of how server syncs work, they are not making you lose.

Glitches can either save you from loss, or deny winnings. The long term result is no difference. It happens in online casinos too.

Blaming a win rate on glitches is quite unjustified.

I suggest updating your os. I cant replicate such issues. They may still occur but its hard to fix something i can't replicate.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Apr 15, 04:25 AM 2018
And maestro the bet limits replicate typical casinos
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Apr 15, 04:39 AM 2018

Glitches can either save you from loss, or deny winnings. The long term result is no difference...
Blaming a win rate on glitches is quite unjustified.


I knew you would reply with exactly this. You really have no idea do you.

You either fix the glitches or lose the game.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Apr 15, 04:51 AM 2018
And maestro the bet limits replicate typical casinos

No they don't
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Apr 15, 05:39 AM 2018
Why would you expect something different? Most reported glitches are use side only. Because of tests i believe it's likely your os. Any issues i replicated are fixed. I can't replicate what you described. So how do you expect i can fix it?
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Apr 15, 06:26 AM 2018
Why would I expect something different?

Before I answer let me ask, why would you make this game?
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Apr 15, 08:50 AM 2018
It was requested by members.

Its a fair amd realistic way for members to test and compare systems.

It adds value for members.

And to annoy you.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Apr 16, 01:25 AM 2018
I answered your question. Please answer mine.

It's easy for you to sit and criticize. I've been developing software for a long time and unless you can replicate an issue, you need to take guesses at what might need to change. And a lot of the time it's a matter of hardware compatibility, not a bug. In your case if you're using Windows 7, to replicate the exact issue the developer would need to set up a windows 7 pc (which they charge you for) and potentially spend hours and still not replicate the issue. The testing alone would cost around $500. Then they'd need to code a potential fix, and test again - and still it might not even be fixed.

Even if it was fixed, the changes might cause issues with MACs or Windows XP. Then someone else complains. There arent many developers who would bother coding for windows xp or 7.

Again its easy for you to criticize and accuse me of having no idea.

At the moment, any reported issues are isolated to particular users and operating systems - such as yourself. And I cannot replicate the issues you describe. Any other issue I know about is related to internet connection, and much the same issues occur with online casinos because connectivity is not easily resolved with live games.

Until there are a significant amount of users reporting the same thing, and I can replicate the issue, a better resolution to me potentially wasting thousands for a free game to entertain you, is you update your o/s to something from this decade.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Apr 16, 01:37 AM 2018
Also keep in mind you're not paying for this game - I am. But I get no real benefit from it. It's for members.

Still I make requested mods to please members. It has been made according to what people said they wanted.

If there are legitimate issues that need to be fixed because of a bug or something, then they'll be fixed. But you need to understand if an issue cant be replicated, and you are using an old operating system, I'm not going to spend thousands especially when the chances are the problem is isolated to older operating systems, and changes may create other problems. Would you?
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Apr 16, 06:45 AM 2018
Look, maybe you don’t like my tone, sorry. But by expecting something different I get to annoy you.

It’s unfortunate that the game can’t be perfected. I’m sure it would be far more popular if it were.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on Apr 17, 02:29 PM 2018
can someone log out this< greatest moron of all> from MPR so players can use faster spins


what a asshole
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Normy2000 on Apr 17, 04:44 PM 2018
can someone log out this< greatest moron of all> from MPR so players can use faster spins


what a asshole
Yes please, 10h for 1 bet...
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: plolp on Apr 17, 05:38 PM 2018
 Yes , a real slug
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Apr 18, 12:23 AM 2018
I booted them
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Lucky7Red on Apr 18, 07:52 AM 2018
Is this normal or what?
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Apr 18, 07:30 PM 2018
I dont think so in this case. There are probably two instances of the application running. Ill fix it shortly.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Apr 18, 07:41 PM 2018
Should be ok now. Yesterday when I booted the lurkers I forgot to close the duplicate instance
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Apr 18, 10:48 PM 2018
Ah, so that's why the ready button wasn't working, the old duplicate instance trick.  ^-^
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Apr 19, 12:09 AM 2018
No duplicate instance was running before. It was just your Windows 7 pc.

(https://www.rouletteforum.cc/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pichost.org%2Fimages%2F2018%2F04%2F19%2Ftemp_963052.png&hash=990beadb5cf72a145f9413d715221378) (http://www.pichost.org/image/swBI7)
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Apr 19, 02:12 AM 2018
I was talking about after, but never mind.

Why are you so mean to me? That's a pretty good likeness, BTW.

....Now it's perfect.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Apr 19, 02:25 AM 2018
lol, you are an artist
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on Apr 20, 05:23 PM 2018
Quote
I booted them

thnx..but now there is another asshole and it makes your MPR simulator not useable

cannot fight with assholes and low lifes
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Apr 20, 07:13 PM 2018
Nice justplay1 on all day by the look of it, no rushing to get units laid,
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: plolp on Apr 20, 08:12 PM 2018

Yes " justplay" = big slug
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Apr 20, 09:54 PM 2018
Ok we'll add an auto boot feature of some kind.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Apr 21, 05:49 AM 2018
Good idea. Maybe some kind of pop up player warning every hour or so, something like, please click the active player button or get logged off. If people are just being c***s, like justplay1, then they will get logged off, as they should. If people are using bots, then they will get logged off too, and they can go and get f***ed.

 :thumbsup:

How much will that cost?....I'll chip in.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Apr 21, 05:56 AM 2018
So Steve
You are going to side with the outside bet brigade, bully the inside players. Players on the inside lay many units, whereas outside have laid the chip in seconds.
 How you going to know which to boot off? Some methods require visual bets, so no units being placed, how long you going to give before you boot them off.
The speed merchants obviously play on-line and this type of betting is catered for, whereas MPR is for the whole community, not the few.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Apr 21, 06:02 AM 2018
It is a good idea, but I'm not sure if these precautions would work when people are logging on with private windows & incognito windows.

For example, players like nottophammer would prefer to use the whole 30 seconds all the time regardless of who else is playing, so there is nothing stopping him and others like him from opening a second "incognito" browser, then logging on with another account, which then just sits idle and consumes the whole 30 seconds every spin. It's an easy redirect so other players can't accuse notto & ilk for the slow play.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Apr 21, 06:10 AM 2018
Quote (selected)
So Steve
You are going to side with the outside bet brigade, bully the inside players. Players on the inside lay many units, whereas outside have laid the chip in seconds.
 How you going to know which to boot off? Some methods require visual bets, so no units being placed, how long you going to give before you boot them off.
The speed merchants obviously play on-line and this type of betting is catered for, whereas MPR is for the whole community, not the few.


So many ways people can play it is stupid to put them in boxes. This is more about bot users and trouble makers who leave the game running for hours and even days, and discourteous players who log on when there are already people playing then demand the whole 30 seconds.

Notto, if I log on and your 30 sec type are playing I might ask but would not demand you to click ready. In fact, I'll probably just log off and come back later. But if you log on and I am playing then I will strongly ask you to click ready, but you will get upset and tell me to f**k off, or worse still just ignore me. It's that simple.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Apr 21, 06:11 AM 2018
Maybe a "bot players click here" option on the log in page?

Feed them the same spin files.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Apr 21, 06:56 AM 2018
Posted this before

Cannot use ready just yet, got a lot of units to lay, after 2 spins be able too. Will you be pressing ready, if not say so, please
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Apr 21, 07:15 AM 2018
not quite the same as some f*wit leaving the game running all day long day after day without placing a single bet just to piss people off.... a f*wit you seem to applaud BTW, dickhead.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Apr 21, 07:38 AM 2018
okay cunty  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Apr 21, 07:48 AM 2018
okay cunty  :thumbsup:

Ah, so justplay IS you!

What a turd you turned out...
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Apr 21, 07:50 AM 2018
You know there's 1417 registered users on MPR, 397 of them are Notto.. lol
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Apr 21, 07:53 AM 2018
Posted this before

Cannot use ready just yet, got a lot of units to lay, after 2 spins be able too. Will you be pressing ready, if not say so, please


You're such a dumb arse, just like mr j.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Apr 21, 09:23 AM 2018
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You're such a dumb arse

You're a useless
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Apr 21, 09:24 AM 2018
Report that to City boy
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Turner on Apr 21, 12:27 PM 2018
Report that to City boy
I pefer "Premier League winning" boy  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Roulettebeater on Apr 21, 01:50 PM 2018
How it comes that M.United winning 2-1 against Tottenham?
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: DoctorSudoku on Apr 21, 02:16 PM 2018

I pefer "Premier League winning" boy  :thumbsup:



Deep inside your sky blue-tinted heart, you would much prefer a "CL-winning boy."

Oh, well, there is always next season.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Turner on Apr 21, 03:37 PM 2018

Deep inside your sky blue-tinted heart, you would much prefer a "CL-winning boy."

Oh, well, there is always next season.

Wrong Dr....

not that long ago I would have not preferred to be beat by Grimsby 0-1 in League 1 to give our lowest position in our history

Thats a stat I am not happy with

Most goals, most points, most consecutive wins. These are better stats to try and be famous for.

I will take a Premier league win and a League cup for now.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on May 12, 05:41 PM 2018
why fast spins are not working
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: The General on May 15, 11:24 PM 2018
why fast spins are not working


Why do you suppose it is that nobody using Turbo's method can win on this simulator?  :twisted:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Madi on May 15, 11:46 PM 2018
I was looking for this thread.

The random spin delivery may b good and is preety close to actuall casino rng but there r a lot of issue.

1. The quality and playing environment is really bad.
2. It stuck sometimes and have to refresh it while all spins gone , start from beginning. Disrupt the game.
2. Two spin come together at a time. Disrupt.

3. People keep pressing the ready button intentionally so no time to place bet.
4.on a crucial monent rebet doesnt work.


Lots of more issue like cant remove a single bet. Personal play not available. U may not add them to leaderboard but at least we can test against real spin.

U can add some graph thing and statistics of game played. I believe all of us like these.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on May 15, 11:57 PM 2018
1. The quality and playing environment is really bad.

Really bad? Works fine for me in my tests.

2. It stuck sometimes and have to refresh it while all spins gone , start from beginning. Disrupt the game.

Probably more related to your pc, browser or connection. I've tested for hours with no problems. Only a few players report problems, and so far they are using older operating systems, or bad connections. Live games like this and real online casinos have the same issues with connectivity.

2. Two spin come together at a time. Disrupt.

Thats a connection issue between you and the server in usa.

3. People keep pressing the ready button intentionally so no time to place bet.

Ready only applies if ALL players clicked it.

4.on a crucial monent rebet doesnt work.

I've never seen it not work, unless you just logged in.

Some players have played thousands of spins and never reported a problem. Sure if there are problems and I can replicate them with the programmer, they'll be fixed.

But arguments like "if I would have gotten my bets down in time, I would have a 1.5 win rate are bullshit" because if there were any issues, you would miss some wins, and avoid some losses.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on May 16, 12:20 PM 2018
Ready only applies if ALL players clicked it.
No, many times not pressed and number given, even talk to players when it happens.

But next quote is fair
you would miss some wins, and avoid some losses.
At times saved units as the winning number would not been covered

So sort the ready box out  :xd: :xd:  oh yes its our end  :question:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Normy2000 on May 17, 10:34 AM 2018
Can someone log out <Joopert> from MPR please, he is jammed there for 24h without any betting and not using READY ...!
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Normy2000 on May 17, 01:02 PM 2018
Thanks
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on May 17, 11:47 PM 2018
Can someone log out the bot <mcuth28> from MPR please, he is jammed there now....


Steve, these bots are a real problem with mpr. Do you think it could be possible to add a feature where any players logged in can send a captcha to other players to respond? So if I'm playing and suspect mcuth28 is a bot I can instigate a captcha for him to answer and if he does not respond within a few minutes the game logs him out?
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on May 18, 07:18 AM 2018
Steve, can you please log out "twilight" who is stuck on the game and inactive?

Thanks.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on May 18, 07:42 AM 2018
Steve, can you please log out "twilight" who is stuck on the game and inactive?

Thanks.
Steve its 30 sec's whats there problem, isn't it supposed to be like B+M 30 sec plus spins at live wheels
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on May 18, 09:43 AM 2018
Notto the 30s is because of user votes. Its what people asked for.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on May 18, 09:45 AM 2018
Taotie im not at my pc until monday so i cant boot him. We will implement auto booting soon.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on May 18, 10:30 AM 2018
Notto the 30s is because of user votes. Its what people asked for.

I know Steve, so why some members going on, the democratic vote was for 30 sec's, Oh you're going to do a Brexit, Ignore the majority for the few.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on May 18, 01:33 PM 2018
lovely afternoon on MPR, no press ready, no expletives from one member with about 400 player names, nice, a number in 30 sec's, whats wrong with that
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: The General on May 20, 02:31 PM 2018
Where can I find a link to the leader board?
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on May 21, 04:30 AM 2018
www.rouletteplayers.org/leaderboard
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on May 21, 10:39 AM 2018
quick no bots
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on May 22, 08:10 PM 2018
While working to modifying the game to deal with bots, I kind of accidentally reset all stats and the leaderboard. Yeah oops. Dont be too upset though - just about everyone had a negative win rate anyway.

I still have a backup though, but an older one. But the benefit of starting from scratch is now that we know the cheating loophole was fixed, any results from here on are fairer. So "Beneficia" who previously ranked at the top will have to prove themselves again.

Anyway so the programmer is working on the updates, then sleeping players get automatically booted. It might be a few days.

Now is also a good time to make any special requests for mods. If you are reporting a bug, be very clear and explain the steps to replicate it. We can only fix what we replicate.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on May 22, 08:54 PM 2018
While working to modifying the game to deal with bots, I kind of accidentally reset all stats and the leaderboard.

LOL.... Go Maestro!
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: The General on May 22, 09:47 PM 2018
LOL.... Go Maestro!

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I'm going to rename Maestro and call him "Longterm."  He successfully played so many spins that he essentially demonstrated the long term effects of losing at almost exactly the house edge!  He tried and tried but the more he played, the more locked into the long term expectation he became. 
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: precogmiles on May 22, 10:43 PM 2018
While working to modifying the game to deal with bots, I kind of accidentally reset all stats and the leaderboard. Yeah oops. Dont be too upset though - just about everyone had a negative win rate anyway.

I still have a backup though, but an older one. But the benefit of starting from scratch is now that we know the cheating loophole was fixed, any results from here on are fairer. So "Beneficia" who previously ranked at the top will have to prove themselves again.

Anyway so the programmer is working on the updates, then sleeping players get automatically booted. It might be a few days.

Now is also a good time to make any special requests for mods. If you are reporting a bug, be very clear and explain the steps to replicate it. We can only fix what we replicate.

That’s great news, I definitely don’t mind proving it all again, but I see the ‘played spins’ hasn’t been reset. Will that effect rankings?
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on May 22, 10:45 PM 2018
Quote
I'm going to rename Maestro and call him "Longterm."  He successfully played so many spins that he essentially demonstrated the long term effects of losing at almost exactly the house edge!  He tried and tried but the more he played, the more locked into the long term expectation he became.

if you say so... :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on May 22, 10:50 PM 2018
That’s great news, I definitely don’t mind proving it all again, but I see the ‘played spins’ hasn’t been reset. Will that effect rankings?

We'll fully reset the stats before re-launch.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on May 23, 05:42 AM 2018
Wow wondered where i was, over a thousand players back  :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on May 23, 01:09 PM 2018
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1 spin, why? the ready not work. Maestro and Xiam where on at the time, had 4 hot #'s to place and #3 is top of board, so was 1st to place, didn't even get a chance to place the other 3#'s and i had over 20 seconds on clock.

So can you sort ready
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: ignatus on May 24, 03:07 AM 2018
The Quad/Corner Bet is STILL bugged. Can you fix that, please steve? thx
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on May 24, 06:16 AM 2018
Exactly whats the problem?
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on May 24, 07:33 AM 2018
I did ask sometime back could we have the last 10 spins when logging on, Thank you.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: ignatus on May 24, 07:59 AM 2018
Exactly whats the problem?

It's not winning when hit, 50% of the quad, but other nearby numbers (not bet) are winning instead
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on May 25, 02:36 PM 2018
Steve Maestro left and number come and not finished laying with at least 15 seconds to go cost 60 units, ready button not right ask 2bobbet maestro even the sworn enemy taotie has the problem
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on May 25, 07:22 PM 2018
the sworn enemy taotie

lol, you goose.

It happens more than occasionally that when someone logs off, the game spits out a number in response.

Sometimes players get bumped off without warning and when that happens you are no longer listed as currently online but can still make bets and chat. However, you have no control over the ready button.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on May 25, 07:28 PM 2018
lol, you goose.

It happens more than occasionally that when someone logs off, the game spits out a number in response.

Sometimes players get bumped off without warning and when that happens you can still make bets and chat, but you have no control over the ready button.

Steve can you read?? fix the game, come on it's not our end, quote the General Steve, curve fitting, Steve your game is fixing that players lose.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on May 25, 11:32 PM 2018
cannot be more fixed than this... :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: The General on May 26, 01:04 AM 2018
cannot be more fixed than this... :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

So?  What's wrong with it?  It looks random to me.  Surely you're not spooked by a run on some reds?  If you are, then you're less experienced than I thought you were.   

FYI...If you're not winning then it's not the MPR, it's probably your system.   ::)
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on May 26, 01:20 AM 2018
If the spins are so predictable then why are you losing?

When we restart the game ill publish the locked spin database again, so the losers know they lost because of their system, not rigged spins.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: The General on May 26, 01:28 AM 2018
Maestro,

It's probably time for you to rethink your strategy, because whatever the last one was, you very successfully played it until you reached the LONG TERM.  You played for an astounding number of spins and successfully proved that no matter how hard you try, you can't win or lose at a rate that exceeds the house edge in the random game while using your last system.

Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on May 26, 03:27 AM 2018
i do thank you both for your very wise words and is such a honour to have you both <Gurus :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:> of roulette world to take care of me...but thanks i am just fine and would you please in polite mannnner foff

thank you
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on May 26, 03:31 AM 2018
Quote

    Quote

Maestro,

It's probably time for you to rethink your strategy, because whatever the last one was, you very successfully played it until you reached the LONG TERM.  You played for an astounding number of spins and successfully proved that no matter how hard you try, you can't win or lose at a rate that exceeds the house edge in the random game while using your last system.

and why this is a such a problem for you General...i see no problem by losing at simulator game :question:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on May 29, 07:08 AM 2018
Love it +4116 BOOM visit to the ATM coming up

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The question is how many visits?

So is this method any good :lol:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on May 29, 03:32 PM 2018
Don't know why, but game logged me out, now can't log back in, bit like Maestro with his sickybones player.
So i'll start again.
But this is where i was General, by not listening to the likes of you
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Now the reset
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This where i got, now can't log in
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Don't worry i'll reset
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: The General on May 29, 03:52 PM 2018
Notto,

It looks like you're about break even at best.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on May 29, 04:10 PM 2018
Look shit for brains still the original BR not like the others who have never ending BR's.
And yes it's betting for repeats and working, C^nts like you do not like it when something works.

If you know how it's easy to win
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: The General on May 29, 04:19 PM 2018
Quote
Look shit for brains still the original BR not like the others who have never ending BR's.
And yes it's betting for repeats and working, C^nts like you do not like it when something works
.




Notto,

Is it your goal to just break even or to win?   I'm just asking.  ::)
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on May 29, 08:54 PM 2018
The auto boot after 10 spins of inactivity is done.

The spitting out of another number in a short space of time has to do with the server thinking you arent logged on, while the other player(s) are using the ready button. At least thats what it appears to be. We'll fix that. For now just refresh the page.

Quad payouts is being investigated.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on May 29, 09:44 PM 2018
Steve, the rebet button is not working.

The auto boot after 10 spins of inactivity is done.

Does clicking the ready button without betting count for being active?
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: TurboGenius on May 29, 11:01 PM 2018
The spitting out of another number in a short space of time has to do with the server thinking you arent logged on, while the other player(s) are using the ready button. At least thats what it appears to be. We'll fix that. For now just refresh the page.
Quad payouts is being investigated.

But every other site on the internet that has roulette is rigged for me to win -
the one any only real simulation you hold out as valid is yours - where STILL things aren't
working right it appears. No offense - getting something like that running right is hard.
Just stop holding it out as proof I do or don't win when it's not working like a actual
table and wheel would.

Title: Re: MPR
Post by: The General on May 29, 11:25 PM 2018
But every other site on the internet that has roulette is rigged for me to win -
the one any only real simulation you hold out as valid is yours - where STILL things aren't
working right it appears. No offense - getting something like that running right is hard.
Just stop holding it out as proof I do or don't win when it's not working like a actual
table and wheel would.

(https://m.popkey.co/4d37a0/Zozl_f-maxage-0.gif)
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on May 29, 11:43 PM 2018
But every other site on the internet that has roulette is rigged for me to win -
the one any only real simulation you hold out as valid is yours - where STILL things aren't
working right it appears. No offense - getting something like that running right is hard.
Just stop holding it out as proof I do or don't win when it's not working like a actual
table and wheel would.

No Turbo. Let me dumb it down for you.

1. MPR doesnt give you big login bonuses, or bonuses because you logged in more than others and got a higher bonus, and inevitably won more with the bonuses.... and then got another huge bonus and repeated the process.

2. MPR has realistic table limits. Parx and RS have ridiculously unrealistic broad table limits you wont find in real casinos, because it would allow even a basic progression system to win a lot of money. Parx does all this.

3. MPR uses a database of real wheel spins. Who knows what Parx and RS use.

4. The only game out of MPR, Parx and RS you havent won a fortune at is MPR. Check the above 3 points. I WONDER why you stopped playing MPR and opted for the others. Maybe you wanted the RS admin to video record your spins?

If you still don't get it, I cant help you.

Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on May 30, 12:07 AM 2018
Steve, the rebet button is not working.

Programmer knows, everything will be fine when we reset/relaunch.

Does clicking the ready button without betting count for being active?

No, just bets.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on May 30, 12:33 AM 2018
Just a notification, programmer is running some tests so ignore the game outcomes for now. Everything is going to be reset anyway. I could restore the database but wont, so everyone can have a fresh start.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: ZERO on May 30, 03:27 AM 2018
Just a notification, programmer is running some tests so ignore the game outcomes for now. Everything is going to be reset anyway. I could restore the database but wont, so everyone can have a fresh start.

GREAT! I`m gonna use my fresh start to look for a bias wheel on MPR...  :xd: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on May 30, 03:45 AM 2018
Fyi, theres at least 300 consecutive spins from the same wheel before it changes. It varies from 300 - 2000 or so spins.

So most of the time you play, it's spins from only one wheel.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on May 30, 03:46 AM 2018
(https://www.rouletteforum.cc/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pichost.org%2Fimages%2F2018%2F05%2F30%2Ftemp_903147.png&hash=9bd510dd6ba0b3a320d74ac036a8ae07) (http://www.pichost.org/image/sihQQ)
Just like MPR, only thing is it's not the rated game.
But with the MPR conditions set you can see if your method is any good, enabling you to compare two sources of info, so with the 1000 units fixed, you aren't going to bet stupid like the General would, can't remember but Denzie did say how much the great General lost one night on MPR
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on May 30, 03:51 AM 2018
How many ? No idea.  But he did bet on the wrong ones..  he lost 7k tonight....

Better call him recruit   :girl_to:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on May 30, 03:52 AM 2018
Haha expert,"my arse Barb"
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on May 30, 04:36 AM 2018
I probably wouldn't be able to beat mpr either. There isn't enough data for proper AP.

My approach in this case would be  related to dealer signature. But it would be too difficult to know when winnings were from an edge or luck.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: ignatus on May 30, 05:24 AM 2018
When will the Rebet button be fixed?  :-[
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on May 30, 05:36 AM 2018
probably never, not real life conditions, someone would say.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on May 30, 05:53 AM 2018
When will the Rebet button be fixed?  :-[

>>>Steve, the rebet button is not working<<<

Programmer knows, everything will be fine when we reset/relaunch.


don't sweat it just lay your bets and have some fun for a while
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Madi on May 30, 06:24 AM 2018
When will the Rebet button be fixed?  :-[

Working fine i believe.
Check ur internet may b slow
Upgrade ur OS. Throw ur old laptop to bin.
May be server problem. Real casino also got this issue. Get used to it.

May b u will miss some win also u avoiding some loss.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on May 30, 06:56 AM 2018
When will the Rebet button be fixed?  :-[

Probably by tomorrow, not sure. Programmer already knows and will check soon
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on May 30, 06:58 AM 2018
probably never, not real life conditions, someone would say.

You don't need to be a dick all the time. It gets old.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: TurboGenius on May 30, 07:49 AM 2018
No Turbo. Let me dumb it down for you.
1. MPR doesnt give you big login bonuses, or bonuses because you logged in more than others and got a higher bonus, and inevitably won more with the bonuses.... and then got another huge bonus and repeated the process.
2. MPR has realistic table limits. Parx and RS have ridiculously unrealistic broad table limits you wont find in real casinos, because it would allow even a basic progression system to win a lot of money. Parx does all this.
3. MPR uses a database of real wheel spins. Who knows what Parx and RS use.
4. The only game out of MPR, Parx and RS you havent won a fortune at is MPR. Check the above 3 points. I WONDER why you stopped playing MPR and opted for the others. Maybe you wanted the RS admin to video record your spins?
If you still don't get it, I cant help you.

1. I don't need or care about what they give me to log in - I never use that anyway, just my bankroll and I win,
2. nope. Even with the wide open table limits people can't win. I wonder why ?
Bet more = lose more faster, They should give everyone a million $ with no table limits and guess what - everyone will still eventually lose playing a losing method.
3. They use RNG - not copy/pasting together wheel data which doesn't produce random at all. Remember ? Random + Random doesn't equal random once you add the factors in that someone is stitching the spins together. Use RNG.
One wheel stream ends with 2,2,2,2 (wow nice) and another starts with 2,2 - now you put them together and end up with 6 repeats in a row - then you can say "Well, it happens". No. Once you interfere with how spins are displayed, real spins or RNG - it's not random anymore. It's FrankenRandom lol. (and not realistic at all)
 4. I don't play there because your game is defective and doesn't produce accurate realistic results. So blame me for that I guess. the programmer is on it.
That's classic, thanks.
So the other sites are rigged for everyone to win (or just me)
and exactly what I said - yours has bugs and new bugs popping up, read the
posts... BUT... If I don't play on your game page I'm not facing realistic conditions.
In realistic conditions - the game works.

It's been 2 YEARS.
We're still making posts about things not working as they should and that
"programmer" is going to fix it !!  He's amazing I might add.
2 years.
A "programmer" could take on the job - go on a 6 month vacation in the tropics,
come back - spend a year in some religious seminary, another 3 months going
to Paris and then 2 months in China and THEN with 1 month left - knock the code out
in a week and fix the bugs in another week - woolaah.
But dumb it down for me how 2 YEARS later there's still bugs -vs- this is a game
that I should play to show you results as proof. (Hopefully it's not all reset of whatever reason - but that's probably what would happen).

* It is normal to have issues with any new software. It is a community game so everyone needs to do their part in reporting problems.

Yes ! and the programmer will fix it up, and in 2 years from now there will still no "realistic" game to show results on. Insane. But this is what you hold up as proof that my results are rigged.
Would you get a new car - have problems with it - take it to the garage and have it repaired and then in a week take it back with more problems, and then after that, and then again - for 2 years.. I tell you to get another car and you say "Let me dumb it down for you - the mechanic says my car is the best car there is, any other car won't run nearly as good."
You wouldn't do that, would you ?
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Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on May 30, 09:24 AM 2018
You don't need to be a dick all the time. It gets old.
Well if you sorted out the problems, then wouldn't need to make comments like above.
But like Turbo points out 2 years these problems, Hmm
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: The General on May 30, 01:10 PM 2018
Steve,

I don't want to complain, but why is it that when I win absurd amounts of money on the MPR that it's not being deposited in a timely fashion into my bank account.  I am a material man, and this a material world.  And want to spend my winnings! 

(https://media3.giphy.com/media/PyfdbqPGQb1Dy/giphy.gif)

Also, the other day I spilled my red win on the floor while playing the game.  It probably stained the carpet...so..I would appreciate it if you'd replace my carpet for free.
(https://irp-cdn.multiscreensite.com/caefdcd3/dms3rep/multi/mobile/home-pod1.png)
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Turner on May 30, 02:09 PM 2018
Caleb

That wine is sat on the top of the carpet. You must have plumped for the DuPont Carpet Safe option.

Tissue the excess and lightly dab (don't rub) with a well rung-out cloth

Any more questions....I'll be over at the 'RugDoctor' stand until 7 o'clock
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on May 30, 07:06 PM 2018
Steve,

I don't want to complain, but why is it that when I win absurd amounts of money on the MPR that it's not being deposited in a timely fashion into my bank account.  I am a material man, and this a material world.  And want to spend my winnings! 

(https://media3.giphy.com/media/PyfdbqPGQb1Dy/giphy.gif)

Also, the other day I spilled my red win on the floor while playing the game.  It probably stained the carpet...so..I would appreciate it if you'd replace my carpet for free.
(https://irp-cdn.multiscreensite.com/caefdcd3/dms3rep/multi/mobile/home-pod1.png)
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Title: Re: MPR
Post by: The General on May 30, 07:31 PM 2018
Steve,

(https://4seating.scdn4.secure.raxcdn.com/media/catalog/product/cache/2/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/s/e/seatcraft-madera-7000-main-image_2.jpg)

I'm not winning as much as I could win because you still haven't installed the movie theater seating/recliners in the MPR room yet!  It would be nice if you would add some exotic dancers as well.  Here we are TWO YEARS LATER AND THEY'RE STILL NOT IN THERE!  CMON MAN!!!

(https://i.gifer.com/77n4.gif)

No wonder Turbo can't win in there!!!
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: TurboGenius on May 30, 07:44 PM 2018
Yes !  Keep deflecting what I said.
The "game" doesn't work properly, I could care less about visuals
and things not related to the actual game.
But I get it... 2 years !!!!
You clearly have no idea about IT - anyone who made a game and 2 years
later it's still having bugs is just a shame. These things are done completely
start to finish in a week or 2 weeks.
"Realistic conditions ?" NO.

Ok go back to posting jokes that aren't related to what I said.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on May 30, 08:12 PM 2018
Turbo you're full of shit. There is nothing about the game that would prevent you winning if your system of repeaters worked. You're just looking for new excuses because your old excuses are obviously crap.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on May 30, 08:14 PM 2018
General, I'll try and do better. You're right though. Lack of dancers and suitable chairs does explain why Turbo left for rigged games.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Bigbroben on May 30, 08:19 PM 2018


(https://i.gifer.com/77n4.gif)


General,
Should I use VB to guess in which slut my balls are going to land?

P.S.  how do I slow-mo this movie?
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on May 30, 08:28 PM 2018
1. I don't need or care about what they give me to log in - I never use that anyway, just my bankroll and I win,

Bullshit. You did not win millions starting with $1000 or so.

Even with the wide open table limits people can't win. I wonder why ? Bet more = lose more faster

You said it right there. Most people would not be using a long progression to take advantage of the broad betting limits. They would bet more aggressively instead of aiming only to increase bankroll each reset.

They use RNG - not copy/pasting together wheel data which doesn't produce random at all. Remember ? Random + Random doesn't equal random once you add the factors in that someone is stitching the spins together. Use RNG.

0 + 0 does not equal anything but 0. If you have 1 in 37 accuracy with random, you will always have 1 in 37 accuracy. Its not an opinion turbo, it's fact anyone can verify.

Once you interfere with how spins are displayed, real spins or RNG - it's not random anymore

You're saying you cant win unless it's random. Do you even understand what you're saying?

I don't play there because your game is defective and doesn't produce accurate realistic results.

The only issue that would affect winnings are square bets, but you dont use them. You are reaching for new excuses. The results are real roulette spins, which is as realistic as it gets without sitting at a real wheel.

If I don't play on your game page I'm not facing realistic conditions.

More realistic than super-broad table limits? Come on Turbo, you'e reaching for excuses.

You never complained about anything on the game that affected your play, for thousands of spins, and just suddenly left when your win rate turned to loss. I wonder why.

It's been 2 YEARS.
We're still making posts about things not working as they should and that
"programmer" is going to fix it !!  He's amazing I might add.

2 years my ass. All that happened is we just added a feature to boot bots. We have not fully restarted the game, and things like the rebet button were minor. Like I said I will reset the starts then re-launch it so everyone can start from scratch again. I will tell everyone when everything is ready. Again you're just fishing for excuses to explain why you refuse to play there.

The only exception is the square bets and I only just had enough information to find the issue. But again you dont even use square bets, so it doesnt affect your system.

Let's make it really simple turbo.......

What will it take for you to play on MPR and show everyone how you blitz them and rank #1?

I'm betting you will never do it. You will run and find excuses as you've been doing since your win rate turned to loss.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on May 30, 08:31 PM 2018
The rebets was fixed last night.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on May 30, 08:35 PM 2018
Quote
General,
Should I use VB to guess in which slut my balls are going to land?

P.S.  how do I slow-mo this movie?

my best guess is .........depends what stake you play :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on May 30, 09:00 PM 2018
Im discussing another mod for admin for now game is off to public while testing, I'll let you know when its back.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Andre Chass on May 30, 09:35 PM 2018
Well, there was a time I had believed in turbo until I realized he contradicted himself with divergent information. Just read your posts from previous topics as you will realize that.
He's a scam

"Even with the wide open table limits people can't win. I wonder why ? Bet more = lose more faster"

"Use aggressive progression"

- Turbo
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on May 30, 09:43 PM 2018
Turbo has contradicted himself many times. He tries to cover it, but anyone paying attention would know something isn't right.

I think it started innocently enough, and he really thought he had something special. But now he knows better, although is in too deep with it. It's nothing personal, but I dont doubt he's misleading people.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: TurboGenius on May 30, 09:43 PM 2018
Turbo you're full of shit. There is nothing about the game that would prevent you winning if your system of repeaters worked. You're just looking for new excuses

Nevermmind
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: TurboGenius on May 30, 09:45 PM 2018
"Even with the wide open table limits people can't win. I wonder why ? Bet more = lose more faster"

"Use aggressive progression"

Yes, if your using something that doesn't work - you will lose more faster.
If you're playing right on repeaters - aggressive progression in the best approach.
But again, nevermind.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: ignatus on May 30, 11:59 PM 2018
While you're fixing the MPR now, there is another bug, --that is IF you re-bet too fast, you lose that amount bet,... :question:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on May 31, 12:08 AM 2018
What do you mean by "IF you re-bet too fast"
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: ignatus on May 31, 12:23 AM 2018
What do you mean by "IF you re-bet too fast"

yes? IF you re-bet, before the yellow marker i gone, you'll Lose that bet if you re-bet too fast, before finished.....so? it's a bug, you loste both your bet+ the new bet,....etc :S
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on May 31, 03:09 AM 2018
Ignatus I tested for that and didnt find what you described. please check to make sure.

Does anyone else have this problem? All that happens from my tests is the bets get returned
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on May 31, 04:08 AM 2018
yes? IF you re-bet, before the yellow marker i gone, you'll Lose that bet if you re-bet too fast, before finished.....so? it's a bug, you loste both your bet+ the new bet,....etc :S

ignatus, you're dreaming mate.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: ignatus on May 31, 04:11 AM 2018
ignatus, you're dreaming mate.

ok, sry, things as usual then..  ;)
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on May 31, 09:19 AM 2018
Turbo we're waiting for a response. Before today, your excuse for avoiding MPR was that I log spin data.... but you instead play at RS where your actual sessions are video recorded.

Next your excuse was MPR has bugs. But no bug has any affect on your system.

Another excuse was random plus random is not random, which is rubbish (you referred to joining databases of real spins). 0 + 0 = 0. 1 in 37 is 1 in 37. You dont need to be smart to understand it. But I said we can easily switch to RNG.

Now you're making it personal by calling people names.

So again:

What will it take for you to play on MPR and show everyone how you blitz them and rank #1?

Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Normy2000 on May 31, 03:32 PM 2018
My 4 players are lucky today!!!  :xd: :xd: :xd:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on May 31, 05:40 PM 2018
the only day many went to 100k and over...
must be rigged :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Normy2000 on May 31, 06:04 PM 2018
Yep, number was comming in order, hahaha
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on May 31, 06:08 PM 2018
It is rigged. Its running a predictable test spin file. I said ill let everyone know when its being reset.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Normy2000 on May 31, 06:23 PM 2018
I know thiat, but it was fun for Mr.Beam to win 1M in 50 bets.  :xd: :xd: :xd:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: TurboGenius on Jun 01, 03:34 AM 2018
Turbo we're waiting for a response.
It is rigged.

You answered your own question lol. It's never worked right and I doubt it ever will. It's not accurate, not realistic and there's no point in me wasting my time because "you" say it's the only proof you'll see as worthy.
As far as stitching together wheel data and calling it random - you should learn how random works, then make a argument. Like I said, one wheel might end 15 reds in a row and another wheel starts with 10 reds in a row - stitch them together and say 25 reds in a row is accurate ? That's absurd.
You said you couldn't even beat it but if you could would use some DS style....
I'm the one full of shit right ?
You can't use DS unless you know the direction of the wheel spin, the dealer changes and who that dealer is, the release point of the ball to the track, I won't keep going.
For crying out loud, I know more about AP than AP people do and don't even use it lol.

Now you're making it personal by calling people names.

I called people names ? I called a scammer a scammer - Unless "Oh I'm leaving the forums but I'll sell you my super secret system for 3k" isn't a blatant scammer. I call 'em like I see 'em. Scammers are the worst pathetic life forms on internet forums. That makes Andre a piece of shit in my book for preying on people - if that's ok with you ? It's your forum.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Nimo on Jun 01, 05:12 AM 2018

Elephant shit.  I know at least four people plus myself that turned a $500 bankroll into something very significant by gambling.  It has been done and will continue to be done.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Jun 01, 07:17 AM 2018
Elephant shit.  I know at least four people plus myself that turned a $500 bankroll into something very significant by gambling.  It has been done and will continue to be done.

What's "something very significant"? Millions like turbo? Five of you?

You actually believe turbo won millions starting from a few thousand dollars, without using the parx bonus money? 
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Nimo on Jun 01, 07:36 AM 2018
Yes, it is possible, yes seven figures.   Yes five of us, a couple of friends and siblings. Yes I believe Turbo won without bonus money.

The problem of doing billions of random checks with software is you take out the human brain out of the equation.  The human brain can account for items that  a computer simulation cant. 
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Jun 01, 07:53 AM 2018
You answered your own question lol

Misleading response turbo. You know my comment was regarding the test spin database which deliberately has predictable spins.

It's not accurate, not realistic and there's no point in me wasting my time

Its a real spins database with realistic betting limits. Its not more realistic than rng and super broad betting limits no casino has, and free bonus money? Really, turbo.

there's no point in me wasting my time

And wasting time on parx and rs which is far less realistic, even considering table limits alone, isnt wasting time? Well not if you're just looking to get attention.

because "you" say it's the only proof you'll see as worthy.

How about this:

A neutral member gets spins from random.org and i upload them. The spins are locked in a file and password provided after you dazzle everyone and rank #1. So we all know the spins aren't rigged, like i already did before. And you get your verifiable random spins.

Still have an excuse? Always will. Wonder why.

I said, one wheel might end 15 reds in a row and another wheel starts with 10 reds in a row - stitch them together and say 25 reds in a row is accurate ?

 Turbo you don't understand it yourself. Its 1 in 37 accuracy with or without stitching.

When rng numbers are selected, do you think it considers the past numbers or just spits out whatever number?

Random is random whether data is stitched or not. Rng stitches every single spin is no different to stitching every few hundred spins.

You said you couldn't even beat it but if you could would use some DS style....

Correct. It has the best chance of success.

I'm the one full of shit right ?

Correct.

You can't use DS unless you know the direction of the wheel spin, the dealer changes and who that dealer is, the release point of the ball to the track

Incorrect.

Separating directions is ideal but not essential. Combining directions doubles the peaks in correlation charts, but some of those peaks inevitably overlap, so edge is still likely to occur.  its the same case worth vb when you incorrectly predict the revolution. Plus you could segregate directions by assuming directions alternate every second spin for say 10 spins.  Remember each segment is at least 300 spins from the same wheel. You can do the same for dealers.

As for ball release point, actually no, because even if the dealer releases the ball on opposite sides, the ball often will still complete the same number of revolutions before hitting the same dominant diamond.  that means a different ball release point but same winning sector, assuming a sufficiently strong dominant diamond. The primary difference is a few hundred milliseconds of rotor travel, which is basically a few pockets.

You don't know what you're talking about.

So are you going to show everyone how you rank #1 if mpr uses verifiable rng you say your system needs?

I'm betting theres nothing anyine could do or say to have you test your system on anything  but an unrealistic game, with super broad table limits or free bonus money. I wonder why you choose those games to test with.

Mighty peculiar.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Jun 01, 08:00 AM 2018
Yes, it is possible, yes seven figures.   Yes five of us, a couple of friends and siblings. Yes I believe Turbo won without bonus money.

If 5 of you won millions starting with $500, what are you doing here?

Sorry I'm calling bullshit here. There are too many holes in your story.

Unless you're talking about rx simulations. I've won millions in tests a few times too. So its possible, if progression is very aggressive. Still very rare.

The problem of doing billions of random checks with software is you take out the human brain out of the equation.

What?
No.

The human brain can account for items that  a computer simulation cant. 

No you missed the point. A simulation is just testing algorithms. Turbos explanation of his system is an algorithm without guesswork. It has nothing to do with brain power.

Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Jun 01, 08:39 AM 2018
All anyone needs to know about repeater systems is the next or upcoming spins have no relation to previous spins with rng. So you always have 1 in 37 accuracy. Therefore what you bet doesn't change anything. You're stuck with 1 in 37. Repeaters bet selection is no better than random.

And progression doesn't change anything because each spin still has 1 in 37 accuracy. All progression does is change the amount you risk.

This is really old news. Its disappointing to see people still be misled because they don't understand the simple concepts.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: ignatus on Jun 01, 08:45 AM 2018
Yes? im sorry, Steve, pls , TG is only here for the drama,(like Mr.J) obviously? Mr.J has almost sucessfully ruined the "roulette 30"-forum, by being a dramaqueen over there, so stop wasting your time with this nonsense/TG?....:S Have you seen their own forum? There's nothin but drama "over there"....so please fix the MPR and end this no? thank you
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Nimo on Jun 01, 08:46 AM 2018
If 5 of you won millions starting with $500, what are you doing here?

Sorry I'm calling bullshit here. There are too many holes in your story.

Unless you're talking about rx simulations. I've won millions in tests a few times too. So its possible, if progression is very aggressive. Still very rare.

What?
No.

No you missed the point. A simulation is just testing algorithms. Turbos explanation of his system is an algorithm without guesswork. It has nothing to do with brain power.
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I wasn't necessarily talking roulette, I said betting. I'm talking real money, not simulations.

 I'm here because I want to conquer roulette. I believe I found a way to do that.  If I can help a few others along the way, being altruistic gives me more pleasure than anything money can buy

Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Jun 01, 01:52 PM 2018
Roll on MPR
(https://www.rouletteforum.cc/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pichost.org%2Fimages%2F2018%2F06%2F01%2Ftemp_242228.png&hash=376724a0e71365c71a9ac7ea3af3e608) (http://www.pichost.org/image/sjT5B)

+425 not going to set the leaderboard alight, but as long as keep the one bankroll, I'd take that all day long
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: TurboGenius on Jun 01, 05:10 PM 2018
All anyone needs to know about repeater systems is the next or upcoming spins have no relation to previous spins with rng. So you always have 1 in 37 accuracy. Therefore what you bet doesn't change anything. You're stuck with 1 in 37. Repeaters bet selection is no better than random.

Here is a main problem and you won't admit that you are clearly wrong.
Which is fine.
So all 37 numbers appear once in 37 spins ? Yes or No.
then all 37 numbers repeat once in the next 37 spins ? Yes or No.
then all 37 number appear a third time in the next 37 spins ? Yes or No.

I know, this is too easy - it's No, No, No.
Therefore - you clearly and mathematically have an advantage - one that you refuse to see, believe exists, use, accept (whatever term you want) and to anyone who does see this obvious way that random acts - we are misleading and ignorant to how it works.

Like 2/3 of the numbers on the table actually show up during a cycle (on average)
and 2/3 of those are 3 shows (on average), and 2/3 of those are 4 shows (on average).
You've never charted this or run a test which clearly shows it happening - making the
entire game completely predictable ? You should. Save yourself some grief combating me on the forums and see how actual "random" acts. You'll be amazed.
Is the next spin 1 in 37 for ANY number appearing ? YES !!!!!!!!!! You are right.
No one is saying this isn't correct....Now imagine this game as being more than 1 spin lol.
It's hard... the math might change a little, just go with it.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: TurboGenius on Jun 01, 05:18 PM 2018
How about this:
A neutral member gets spins from random.org and i upload them. The spins are locked in a file and password provided after you dazzle everyone and rank #1. So we all know the spins aren't rigged, like i already did before. And you get your verifiable random spins.
Still have an excuse? Always will. Wonder why.

That sounds like a cool idea - but how does this work ?
I would need the spins - when (not if - when) I made the profit I know I'll make - I post the results ? No, then you'll say I fit my system to win against those spins.
I give you the method and you test and report the results (that's not going to happen)
How does this work ?
Is it 20 million spins that I have to beat 5 times in a row ?
The funny thing is, proving this uses math and requires no spins to test... but even if you wanted to test spins just for the hell of it, it would require a very small spin count anyway.
Oh wait, I had to read it again - you're putting the spins into the game and then I play the game and rank #1. Well, that's almost too easy. My only "excuse" that I can think of that I would use is that you would never accept the results regardless. Some kind of bug must have happened or I cheated somehow.... you clearly won't accept what I'm saying is the truth now - and you wouldn't then either. But hell, who knows - maybe I'll take you up on it.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: ozon on Jun 01, 05:43 PM 2018
Yes, I just want to add it.
Just some numbers have more frequent occurrence than the 37 spins cycle.
This is a phenomenon that is undisputed, the only mystery is how to use this information.
For me,  no losing the session by Turbo in  Parx  or  roulette  simulator  is a form of magic.
I am still on the road without full answers, but I appreciate this path, I do not know if it will be rewarded with success.
If I do not even earn money by roulette, I will treat it as a nice trip, because it uses my brain to the maximum.
I know that with every simulation I'm closer.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Jun 01, 06:16 PM 2018
So when's the grand opening of the total reset MPR

Wonder how long before .97 is prominment on the board.

The sworn enemy and his many players about a week(https://www.rouletteforum.cc/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pichost.org%2Fimages%2F2018%2F06%2F01%2Ftemp_860248.gif&hash=508662e81420026cd5281f511b0eabb7) (http://www.pichost.org/image/sjXOp)
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Jun 01, 09:57 PM 2018
Some time next week. Depends on programmer schedule.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Jun 05, 01:47 AM 2018
Hey Steve, I have a question for you before you reboot the game.

Honest answer please. If you go to the casino to play roulette however you play, would you start your game with 1000 units, or would you be more comfortable starting with more units?

Anyway the point is that players should have an initial bankroll of greater than 1000. Most if not all players end up re-setting the BR anyway so why not give them more to begin with?

I would suggest a 5000 unit bankroll/resets. It won't make any difference to the rating algorithm so why not?

Does anyone else have an amount in mind?
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Jun 05, 01:51 AM 2018
Honest answer please. If you go to the casino to play roulette however you play, would you start your game with 1000 units, or would you be more comfortable starting with more units?

It would depend on a lot of different factors. I can set the starting bankroll to whatever we want. Sure I'll make it bigger. We'll try $5000
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Jun 05, 03:38 AM 2018
Hi Steve
i did ask for last 10 numbers to be on marquee when log on as you do see the last spins before you entered the game at B+M
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Jun 05, 04:30 AM 2018
Wow, that's some extra coding. Can't you just press ready 10 times really fast?

Oh that's right, you don't like pressing ready.... :thumbsup:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Jun 05, 05:27 AM 2018
Wow, that's some extra coding. Can't you just press ready 10 times really fast?

Oh that's right, you don't like pressing ready.... :thumbsup:
Took you long enough to get that  :yawn:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Jun 05, 05:45 AM 2018
So you won't press ready to generate 10 spins, but you want Steve to pay a coder to have 10 spins ready for you when you log on? OK....

What are you afraid of? Your winner will come while you're clicking ready? What if your winner is in the 10 spin marque when you log on? What's the difference?

Hey, other players might appreciate the 10 fast spins too, you know, before the slow boat begins.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Jun 05, 06:41 AM 2018
Dimlo
i press ready Maestro knows
But a dimlo like you, carry on, or are you trying to get my watched rate up, i'll post that pic again if you like cunty
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Jun 05, 06:53 AM 2018
...a dimlo like you,... i'll post that pic again if you like cunty
No need for insults and name calling is there?

Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Jun 05, 08:46 AM 2018
You start it so what d'yu expect.
Anyway the coder needs a job dont he, perhaps they have this ready button work right this time, as Turbo pointed out, how long does it take.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Jun 05, 05:38 PM 2018
Notto you dont see it but sometimes Im remarkably busy working on other things and things like free games are a much lower priority, so I dont always have time to respond to programmer questions and provide whatever they need. That's why development is slower.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Jun 05, 06:39 PM 2018
You start it so what d'yu expect.
Notto, I expect some semblance of an intelligent answer.

You know, I ask a question, you give an answer, we have a discussion....sheesh.


OK, I'll ask again. If you need or want a 10 spin marque, why can't you just press ready 10 times really fast when you log on?
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Jun 06, 07:11 PM 2018
Here's why DIMLO
(https://www.rouletteforum.cc/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pichost.org%2Fimages%2F2018%2F06%2F06%2Ftemp_627557.png&hash=eebcb61705c6776dac7d1957006a1664) (http://www.pichost.org/image/sHPKU)

The last 17 was actually my 17th spin as i'd refreshed the page   
If you need or want a 10 spin marque, why can't you just press ready 10 times really fast when you log on?
and as you see clocks ticked down too 2 sec's, so whats next brains, i'll tell ya, C---s like you will have to wait
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Jun 06, 08:03 PM 2018
That's because there were probably other players logged on not clicking ready.

Get a taste of your own medicine, I say.

Anyway, I meant when you log on and no one else is playing, you can click ready 10 times. (don't forget to click 9 spins then bet $1 or you might get bumped).

If others are playing hopefully they will be clicking ready too, otherwise you will just have to show a bit of grace/patience and wait for 10 spins. That's like 3 minutes tops BTW.

It's not so bad. It's when players log on while you're already there, and don't click ready for their whole session that becomes annoying, especially when they don't acknowledge or reply to requests via chat....downright rude actually.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Jun 06, 08:08 PM 2018
...or are you complaining about missing out on 2 repeaters?

If so, then you really are as mr j would say, a rookie.

Even if Steve supplied a 10 number marque, those numbers could have been there anyway.

And, I can guarantee there are plenty more numbers to come while you're playing....SHEESH!
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Jun 07, 04:04 AM 2018
That's because there were probably other players logged on not clicking ready.

Get a taste of your own medicine, I say.
Haha it dont bother me waiting, you are the one going on about press ready, i'd prefer a whole minute then that would really annoy ya.
If others are playing hopefully they will be clicking ready too, otherwise you will just have to show a bit of grace/patience and wait for 10 spins. That's like 3 minutes tops BTW.

If your on with one of your many names then no press, i'd know its you as you start on about turbo
...or are you complaining about missing out on 2 repeaters?
Nope, missed nothing as BR is + unlike you loser

Even if Steve supplied a 10 number marque, those numbers could have been there anyway.
Hmm you must be rookie, if its last 10 numbers they must be there or MPR would be giving false info
And, I can guarantee there are plenty more numbers to come while you're playing....SHEESH!
Good that'll please Maestro
Now please read below, you are the weakest link, goodbye
(https://www.rouletteforum.cc/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pichost.org%2Fimages%2F2018%2F06%2F07%2Ftemp_971057.jpg&hash=e769209d4591db808411b2885698a637) (http://www.pichost.org/image/sHki5)
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Jun 07, 06:11 AM 2018
You don't make a lot of sense you know. Everything you post is mostly gibberish.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Jun 07, 06:21 AM 2018
Nope, missed nothing as BR is + unlike you loser
My bankroll's 5000... reset remember? And I haven't played yet.

SHEESH
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Jun 07, 06:40 AM 2018
My bankroll's 5000... reset remember? And I haven't played yet.
Good luck, how long before you're at .97; couple of days
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Jun 07, 06:47 AM 2018
Is this a challenge?
ok, which one of your 42 usernames will you be using?

Steve will need to reset the spin count for this to work  :thumbsup:

..maybe on request he can reset selected accounts of all data for duels & challenges? What a good idea.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Jun 07, 07:31 AM 2018
Now you want poor old Steve to fork out for the coder to select and reset players spin count, SHEESH

Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Jun 07, 07:52 AM 2018
.maybe on request he can reset selected accounts of all data for duels & challenges? What a good idea.

Easily done.  already have that ability. Yes there are a few people obsessed with multiple accounts.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Jun 07, 08:32 AM 2018
Now you want poor old Steve to fork out for the coder to select and reset players spin count, SHEESH

You do know Steve and I are the same person? Just ask Charles Edward Hampshire.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Jun 07, 08:50 AM 2018
Dont doubt it, Bottom feeder
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Jun 07, 08:57 AM 2018
eeew, you just got jizzed boy.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Jun 07, 11:09 AM 2018
is bottom feeder a sore point LOL
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Jun 07, 11:20 AM 2018
Easily done.  already have that ability. Yes there are a few people obsessed with multiple accounts.
Instead of gesturing, do it, be better to see how players perform, ie; how soon they have to reset the BR, like this one, how long you had 5000 BR
(https://www.rouletteforum.cc/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pichost.org%2Fimages%2F2018%2F06%2F07%2Ftemp_823184.png&hash=49ddecc1d1d9a14a13d35cbf013c1358) (http://www.pichost.org/image/s89pQ)
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Jun 07, 03:19 PM 2018
Leaderboard looks no different than before the resets, losing methods galore, quick more visits to the never ending atm
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Jun 07, 04:07 PM 2018
good to see Mcuth and twilight there, no rush, sweet 30 seconds
Wheres my fave two
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Jun 07, 06:23 PM 2018
To all in the know, wont be long till we get another reset, or i inadvertently reset the leaderboard  :lol: :lol: :lol:

Jizz that all you want
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Jun 07, 06:30 PM 2018
more nottophammer gibberish
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Jun 07, 07:11 PM 2018
 
(https://www.rouletteforum.cc/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pichost.org%2Fimages%2F2018%2F06%2F07%2Ftemp_923037.png&hash=d1d9a5a5a41958c8e2c931760e321d10) (http://www.pichost.org/image/s8pt5)
Taotie
 
 (https://www.rouletteforum.cc/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pichost.org%2Fimages%2F2018%2F06%2F07%2Ftemp_756991.png&hash=88d7b2d40e80fff0c3a987cca4b6376d) (http://www.pichost.org/image/s8u1r)
Steve
 (https://www.rouletteforum.cc/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pichost.org%2Fimages%2F2018%2F06%2F07%2Ftemp_905246.png&hash=40dc0ac72c19465332b003d425f9a7b1) (http://www.pichost.org/image/s8B4x)
The General

3 wise monkies i don't think so
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: The General on Jun 07, 08:25 PM 2018
Notto,

Are you at the top of the board yet with the KFC yet?

(https://www.famouslogos.net/images/kfc-logo.jpg)
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Jun 08, 03:32 AM 2018
Notto,

Are you at the top of the board yet with the KFC yet?

(https://www.famouslogos.net/images/kfc-logo.jpg)

I’ll be polite to you this time!
As MPR is only 30 seconds and KTF might want 28 #’s placed because the most common, 9/10 happened, I would not bother playing the method. If you remember I asked for 45 seconds and the majority won with 30 seconds. If you look up Nathan Detroit on your favourite forum GF you’ll see a post by him, where he shows from a Roulette magazine, that realistic spins per hour is 30.
So why would I use MPR for the KTF method using unrealistic spin time.
Now when I have one of my rare visits to B+M I use the KTF and even use the 60 spins record sheet, no questions asked what I’m using apart from one visit before the football at the Olympic park stadium, for your benefit West Ham United ground, the floor manager asked what’s that and when see it was paper on a clipboard smiled and said he thought it was a laptop and walked off.
Okay with that general.
So please don’t ask again how the KFC is doing.
For your benefit I’m doing a Turbo, betting for repeats.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Jun 08, 04:06 AM 2018
Now General I’m going to help you carry on with your mocking, as mentioned I’m betting for repeats, the ludicrous spin time on MPR allows for betting of repeats.
So what player name is Notto using, well for you to carry on mocking I’m user name ENDS IN TEARS?
That’ll make you laugh, but I just might get the last laugh, if monkey #2 does not inadvertently reset the game again. But the 5000 units does make it easier to bet those repeats, to the few who know how I’m doing it, when it was just the 1000 units I was building the original bankroll to 3000+ and going to step the prog up, when low and behold reset, then another reset, don’t suppose it’ll be long till another reset.
So general you can now follow my progress and mock “Notto” has it ended in tears, LOL
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: The General on Jun 08, 12:35 PM 2018
I’ll be polite to you this time!
As MPR is only 30 seconds and KTF might want 28 #’s placed because the most common, 9/10 happened, I would not bother playing the method. If you remember I asked for 45 seconds and the majority won with 30 seconds. If you look up Nathan Detroit on your favourite forum GF you’ll see a post by him, where he shows from a Roulette magazine, that realistic spins per hour is 30.
So why would I use MPR for the KTF method using unrealistic spin time.
Now when I have one of my rare visits to B+M I use the KTF and even use the 60 spins record sheet, no questions asked what I’m using apart from one visit before the football at the Olympic park stadium, for your benefit West Ham United ground, the floor manager asked what’s that and when see it was paper on a clipboard smiled and said he thought it was a laptop and walked off.
Okay with that general.
So please don’t ask again how the KFC is doing.
For your benefit I’m doing a Turbo, betting for repeats.

Notto,

I can make a calculation and place a 12 number number betting arc of the wheel in 2.5 seconds on an air ball game.  If you can't bet you're numbers when you have 30 seconds to bet then you may need help.  There's nothing complex at all about the calculations that you're making,  so you should be able to get every bet that you need to make, down with plenty of time to spare.  However, betting 28 numbers is pretty stupid.  ::)

Most roulette tables in the US spin at a rate of 35 to 45 spins per hour.   Electronic air ball wheels may spin up to 80 spins per hour.  The slowest games in the US with dual tables spin at only 30 spins per hour.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Jun 08, 12:42 PM 2018
Thanks oh wise one
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: 6th-sense on Jun 08, 04:18 PM 2018
Notto,

I can make a calculation and place a 12 number number betting arc of the wheel in 2.5 seconds on an air ball game.  If you can't bet you're numbers when you have 30 seconds to bet then you may need help.  There's nothing complex at all about the calculations that you're making,  so you should be able to get every bet that you need to make, down with plenty of time to spare.  However, betting 28 numbers is pretty stupid.  ::)

Most roulette tables in the US spin at a rate of 35 to 45 spins per hour.   Electronic air ball wheels may spin up to 80 spins per hour.  The slowest games in the US with dual tables spin at only 30 spins per hour.

Pretty sure Notty has said the same and he’s betting repeats like turbo in the time frame he’s got off his ktf sheet..so what’s the point of this post?...
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: The General on Jun 08, 07:47 PM 2018
Pretty sure Notty has said the same and he’s betting repeats like turbo in the time frame he’s got off his ktf sheet..so what’s the point of this post?...

Because Notto basically complained that he didn't have enough time to get his bets down when playing the KFC.

Quote
-Notto wrote, "As MPR is only 30 seconds and KTF might want 28 #’s placed because the most common, 9/10 happened, I would not bother playing the method. If you remember I asked for 45 seconds and the majority won with 30 seconds."
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Jun 09, 03:37 AM 2018
We could temporarily set it to 45s so the KFC masters can tank first, then set back to 30s.

Sorry swype typo, i meant wank i mean rank.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Jun 11, 09:31 PM 2018
Hi Steve, when you rebooted, why didn't you reset the spin counts?

Or is there another reboot coming?

Also, looks like "pickle" got real lucky last night... you running the numerical sequence again?
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Jun 11, 10:31 PM 2018
I havent done full reset yet. I've been away few days and just answering programmer questions today. When he's done and all tested, then i'll do full reset

Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Jun 12, 12:06 PM 2018
(https://www.rouletteforum.cc/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pichost.org%2Fimages%2F2018%2F06%2F12%2Ftemp_210532.png&hash=c5995e474e0f6eed42817b487026719f) (http://www.pichost.org/image/soY2c)

Ooh look clock set for 30 seconds, +137 just watching non-hit

Can spin early if want, no ready being pressed by others so you might not get all units on, no 2  #'s being spat out together ask Maestro.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Jun 12, 12:27 PM 2018
(https://www.rouletteforum.cc/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pichost.org%2Fimages%2F2018%2F06%2F12%2Ftemp_304166.png&hash=e009010081dfeda40aff04ca9bb25961) (http://www.pichost.org/image/so34F)

Read 6th sense Steve as he says you might learn  something, Statistics don’t lie
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Jun 12, 12:28 PM 2018
So as you see Steve leave it at 30 second spins, i don't need 45  :smile:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: The General on Jun 12, 01:38 PM 2018
Notto,

Why did you only play 35 spins? 
Wouldn't you win more if you played more spins?
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Jun 12, 03:26 PM 2018
there you go Big G
(https://www.rouletteforum.cc/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pichost.org%2Fimages%2F2018%2F06%2F12%2Ftemp_360437.png&hash=25076a88105767e177a5c2a4b7408daf) (http://www.pichost.org/image/sog31)

Thats as far as i go 60 spins watching what your mate MR J mocks, "the TROT"

It's what 6th is trying to show
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Jun 12, 04:08 PM 2018
(https://www.rouletteforum.cc/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pichost.org%2Fimages%2F2018%2F06%2F12%2Ftemp_612779.png&hash=890ec22a6f6c2cb0018557aeadced840) (http://www.pichost.org/image/soj75)
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: The General on Jun 12, 04:30 PM 2018
there you go Big G
(https://www.rouletteforum.cc/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pichost.org%2Fimages%2F2018%2F06%2F12%2Ftemp_360437.png&hash=25076a88105767e177a5c2a4b7408daf) (http://www.pichost.org/image/sog31)

Thats as far as i go 60 spins watching what your mate MR J mocks, "the TROT"

It's what 6th is trying to show

It's a good thing that you didn't quit on spin 51 verses spin 60.  ::)
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Jun 13, 02:34 AM 2018
MPR is ready to go except:

1. Programmer is just fixing a routine / scheduled database backup (takes minutes)

2. I haven't done the full reset yet. I'll do this after point 1, probably tomorrow.

But I'm going to completely delete the database, which is easier than manually deleting all the abandoned accounts individually. This means you need to create your account again which takes as long as logging in anyway. You can still have your duplicate accounts, like if you want a mess-around account, but don't go posting screenshots of your win rate unless your username precisely matches your forum username. If you don't intend to give play your best shot, then don't use your forum username.

In other words, you lose all bragging rights with duplicate accounts.

The exception is if you want to challenge someone, and pre-announce your intentions before playing. Or perhaps you want to show everyone performance only with a specific method. I'm really looking forward to being dazzled by repeaters, KTF, Trots, WTF and all.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Jun 13, 02:37 AM 2018
Oh, and don't forget everyone, press the f*cking ready button!

 :xd:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Jun 13, 02:39 AM 2018
Also I'm sure someone is bound to claim the game is rigged, when all it does it use the numbers I upload. It has been explained before.

But still, especially when there's a challenge of some kind on, between members or whoever, I'll publish the spins file in encrypted format, so everyone can download the file. Then later i'll provide the file password, so everyone can see the spins havent change, and nothing is rigged.

It might not stop some people from claiming the game is rigged, rather than their system being ineffective. But everyone can believe what they want.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: ZERO on Jun 13, 04:29 AM 2018
Also I'm sure someone is bound to claim the game is rigged, when all it does it use the numbers I upload. It has been explained before.

But still, especially when there's a challenge of some kind on, between members or whoever, I'll publish the spins file in encrypted format, so everyone can download the file. Then later i'll provide the file password, so everyone can see the spins havent change, and nothing is rigged.

It might not stop some people from claiming the game is rigged, rather than their system being ineffective. But everyone can believe what they want.

Sounds good, thanks for the effort!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Jun 13, 05:52 AM 2018
Steve, before you reboot you had better check the payouts.

I don't know the extent of the problem, but when I bet on 2 columns it's paying twice as much as it should.

Example: If I put 2000 units on 2 columns It pays out 8000 so I win 4000, where I should only win 2000.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Jun 13, 07:16 AM 2018
i bet 2 columns at $10 each, and won one column. I should get back $20 because i lost $10. The payout is correct in this instance.

Exactly what did you bet and can you replicate any issue? i need exact steps to replicate.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Jun 13, 07:21 AM 2018
i think i found what you mean. the programmer tinkered with payouts and made a boo boo. its easily fixed but maybe you mean another issue. let me know steps to replicate.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Roulettebeater on Jun 13, 08:29 AM 2018
Steve

When will you optimize your MPR?
Why neighbour bets not impmenented?

Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Jun 13, 04:44 PM 2018
When betting 2 columns or dozens, it seems to be paying out on the winning bet, but also returning the losing bet.

So if I bet 1000 units on 2 columns or 2 dozens and win, my bankroll goes up 2000 units, when it should only go up 1000.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Roulettebeater on Jun 13, 05:10 PM 2018
Mpr sucks!

I cant place meighbour bets !
I mainly play neighbours ( centeal plus a few numbers aside) !

Also roulette simulator doesnt offer me what i want !

Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on Jun 13, 05:12 PM 2018
Quote
Also roulette simulator doesnt offer me what i want !

casinos do.....no need to cry :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Roulettebeater on Jun 13, 05:19 PM 2018
casinos do.....no need to cry :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

True!
Maestro can you share with us your holy grail ?
I heard you making tons of money !
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Jun 13, 05:55 PM 2018
Neighbor bets works for me. Anyone else have problems with it?

Taotie i let the programmer know. He isnt the original programmer and made an error.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on Jun 13, 06:03 PM 2018
Quote
True!
Maestro can you share with us your holy grail ?
I heard you making tons of money !

have nohing to share...keep hearing :xd: :xd:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: TurboGenius on Jun 13, 06:32 PM 2018
Let's make it really simple turbo.......
What will it take for you to play on MPR and show everyone how you blitz them and rank #1?

i think i found what you mean. the programmer tinkered with payouts and made a boo boo.

Jesus Christ......."shakes my head" doesn't even start to describe it.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Jun 14, 01:35 AM 2018
Turbo, you are clearly fishing for excuses to not play on MPR. I have said before that I will say when the reset occurs, after all testing since the mods.

I think you've made it clear there is no way you will do a test on a realistic game again.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Roulettebeater on Jun 14, 05:41 AM 2018
Maestro

When you are in deep hole, stop digging!

I know you have no holy grail to share, but you have a hole to share !
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Jun 14, 05:59 AM 2018
I think payouts are fixed. I only briefly testted though, ran out of time today. I'll leave the test spin file running so numbers are in sequence, so anywhere here can test and let me know any issues they find. I'll do more of my own testing tomorrow anyway.

And to the smarty pants players thinking they'll rank high for now, you're wasting your time as reset is coming.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Normy2000 on Jun 14, 06:49 AM 2018
Corners, columns and dozens payout are fixed,  :thumbsup:
Neighbors bets are ok...  :thumbsup:
I think the only thing missing is the corner 0-1-2-3 bet.   8)

Thanks Steve for all the time and money you put in this game!  :wink:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: ignatus on Jun 14, 06:59 AM 2018
let me know any issues they find

There are two major bugs, (that i know of)

(1) sometimes the game freeze
(2) sometimes two spins comes out at 1 time
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Jun 14, 07:11 AM 2018
Yes but those arent critical. If it freezes just refresh page. The rapid spins is related to server thinking only person that has logged on checked ready. I very rarely see them myself. Not hard to fix and we'll do soon.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Roulettebeater on Jun 14, 07:36 AM 2018
No !

Neighbour bets dont work as expected !
I want that they work exactly as at an online casino, you select how many numbers you want to cover each side and then select the central/focus number .

Example i want to play 8 numbers left the number 13 which is the focus point, plus 8 numbers right to 13 !  A total of 17 numbers will be bet on

Understood ?
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Jun 14, 07:39 AM 2018
well it might not be what you expect, but it works like most casinos. 5 number arcs, or the segments.

Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Roulettebeater on Jun 14, 07:41 AM 2018
well it might not be what you expect, but it works like most casinos. 5 number arcs, or the segments.

Come on steve !
Most casino ? Are you joking now ?

Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Jun 14, 08:23 AM 2018
Most casino ?

Yeah

Are you joking now ?

No. 5 numbers is standard.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Normy2000 on Jun 14, 08:39 AM 2018
Example i want to play 8 numbers left the number 13 which is the focus point, plus 8 numbers right to 13 !  A total of 17 numbers will be bet on
There is some clicker for this,
Check for 'Sector of the Wheel Clicker' in clickers section, at norcosoft.com  8)
Sorry for the pub Steve.  :twisted:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on Jun 14, 09:41 AM 2018
Quote
I know you have no holy grail to share, but you have a hole to share !

if you think so..let it be :twisted:

oh and this is correct line  <A dollar won is twice as sweet as a dollar earned>  third <as> is not there but you can be the third asshole :twisted:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Roulettebeater on Jun 14, 11:39 AM 2018
if you think so..let it be :twisted:

oh and this is correct line  <A dollar won is twice as sweet as a dollar earned>  third <as> is not there but you can be the third asshole :twisted:

Yes share it with someone!
 


Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Jun 14, 09:24 PM 2018
Not sure if it means anything for the impending reboot, but the numerical sequence you have running doesn't contain the zero.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Jun 14, 10:48 PM 2018
There's a 0 on the wheel? Oh yeah.

All tested now including 0. I didn't test every possible combination of bets though - that would take a long time. So if anyone finds any issues, please report them asap.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Jun 14, 10:51 PM 2018
Everything is reset and ready to go. Proper spin file has been uploaded.

Everyone needs to sign up again although it takes a second.

Remember you lose bragging rights for any results if your MPR username is not exactly the same as your forum username here.

Attached is encrypted zip with the files. I'll give the password when the file is finished.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: precogmiles on Jun 15, 07:17 AM 2018
I think it would be nice to see how many times someone has reset their bankroll.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Jun 15, 08:04 AM 2018
That's why we have the win rate. Resets is an inaccurate metric because you dont know their balance when they reset. Much more relevant is wins vs loses. It can't be cheated.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Lucky7Red on Jun 15, 10:05 AM 2018
Works good.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Jun 16, 12:33 AM 2018
It's maestro in first place with daylight second....lol!
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Roulettebeater on Jun 16, 03:50 AM 2018
steve, can you change the way the neighbour bets work?

make it dynmaic with more coverage!
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Jun 16, 05:41 AM 2018
wow had a look at leaderboard that many players  :lol:

Best yet octopods back won't be long till he's offering his method
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Jun 16, 05:46 AM 2018
Rb, we'll keep it at 5 numbers as per most casinos.

Notto when are you going to blitz the leaderboard and show everyone how great you are and not just talk?
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on Jun 16, 07:42 AM 2018
MPR freeeeezes again and logs you out
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Jun 16, 08:12 AM 2018
It logs you out if you don't bet for 10 consecutive spins.

If it freezes, its because your pc thinks it's logged in but the server has you logged out. Just log in again.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on Jun 16, 08:26 AM 2018
not the case...as i bet every spin...when i think i will hit i bet high chip value else only  a1$...minute ago pickle was in and freezed again
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Jun 16, 08:30 AM 2018
 delete browser data for site then try
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on Jun 16, 08:31 AM 2018
did that same one
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Jun 16, 09:43 AM 2018
No change then M same old same old excuses  :yawn:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Jun 16, 05:03 PM 2018
Works for everyone else. Speaking of excuses, notto when you going to show everyone how great you are?
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on Jun 16, 05:58 PM 2018
not exactly...still freezes from time to time and logs player out

when i play  cannot use ready even i am the only player there due to the fact that there is some moron behind the scene with user name coma<  ,  >
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Jun 16, 07:28 PM 2018
Whoever use the blank name needs another account. I have to delete it.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Jun 17, 04:05 AM 2018
That's a shame. It looks to me like the 'blank name' deserves to be there at the top.

By my calculations the blank player has taken 5000 units through the roof with well over 1000 spins played, and without a single reset.   :o

He's certainly giving all your other MPR players something to chase....


I can see only maestro is rising to the challenge so far.

Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Jun 17, 04:25 AM 2018
Well maybe he can continue and ill only delete the account if he falls from top spot. Long live blank.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: ignatus on Jun 18, 02:34 AM 2018
MPR freeeeezes again and logs you out

Yes, i got the same issue, now the game won't even start. :/
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Jun 18, 03:34 AM 2018
Yes, i got the same issue, now the game won't even start. :/
(https://www.rouletteforum.cc/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pichost.org%2Fimages%2F2018%2F06%2F18%2Ftemp_597471.gif&hash=a2aad7769048c58737176657e4a40c9e) (http://www.pichost.org/image/2sMQy)
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Jun 18, 04:53 AM 2018
It works for me, but enough people have problem. I sent message to programmer.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Jun 18, 04:59 AM 2018
Its ok notto, you arent going to lose money. Your win rate wont be affected.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Jun 18, 05:03 AM 2018
its working for others too, can someone please confirm there is a problem? Maybe it was just server updating or something temporary
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Jun 18, 05:37 AM 2018
Looks like it was temporary server overload issue, which is why it was intermittent. There are other things I run on the server. We're just guessing that's what it was because I shut down a process that might have caused high load. Anyway I've already got a programmer looking deeper into it.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: ignatus on Jun 18, 05:44 AM 2018
Looks like it was temporary server overload issue, which is why it was intermittent. There are other things I run on the server. We're just guessing that's what it was because I shut down a process that might have caused high load. Anyway I've already got a programmer looking deeper into it.

Thanks :)
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Jun 18, 07:52 PM 2018
Today I hired a different programmer to look at potential bugs. To start we'll see if we can get to the bottom of freezes. I think they are related to duplicate logins, like if you have multiple accounts. In any case, for me to report them to the programmer, we need exact steps you took before the issue, and a clear description of the issue.

If you are vague, the programmer runs in circles. He needs to be able to replicate the issue before fixing it.

Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Jun 19, 07:13 PM 2018
From time to time the game spits out two numbers very quickly. It seems to happen mostly when new players log on, and most of all when players log off.

Also I think ignatus mentioned not being paid for winning bets. This does seem to happen sometimes when you bet too late. Like if I have 2000 units on black then at the very last moment just as the clock ticks down to zero bet 1 unit on anything, the game rejects the whole bet including the 2000 units on black. It would be better if it only rejected the late bet.

When the game freezes the clock usually does a little jig back and forward from 1 to 0 to 1, the usually stops on 1.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Turner on Jun 19, 07:23 PM 2018
Believe it or not, I dont even know what MPR is or how you are all playing on it. :question:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Jun 19, 07:28 PM 2018
From time to time the game spits out two numbers very quickly. It seems to happen mostly when new players log on, and most of all when players log off.

yes ive seen this one myself and reported it

Also I think ignatus mentioned not being paid for winning bets. This does seem to happen sometimes when you bet too late. Like if I have 2000 units on black then at the very last moment just as the clock ticks down to zero bet 1 unit on anything, the game rejects the whole bet including the 2000 units on black. It would be better if it only rejected the late bet.

I havent been able to repliacte it. pls see if you can again, and take careful note of what you should be paid and what you are paid.

When the game freezes the clock usually does a little jig back and forward from 1 to 0 to 1, the usually stops on 1.

Yes ive seen this one too but the issue is intermittent so we dont yet know what is happening.

MPR = MULTIPLAYER ROULETTE = www.rouletteplayers.org/register (you know, the forum's game)
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Normy2000 on Jun 19, 08:09 PM 2018
From time to time the game spits out two numbers very quickly. It seems to happen mostly when new players log on, and most of all when players log off.

Also I think ignatus mentioned not being paid for winning bets. This does seem to happen sometimes when you bet too late. Like if I have 2000 units on black then at the very last moment just as the clock ticks down to zero bet 1 unit on anything, the game rejects the whole bet including the 2000 units on black. It would be better if it only rejected the late bet.

When the game freezes the clock usually does a little jig back and forward from 1 to 0 to 1, the usually stops on 1.
Nice description of the bug Taotie,  :thumbsup:
(hard to explain from  a frenchie guy), but exactly where i think  it append !!!  :question:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Jun 20, 06:25 AM 2018
Still no dolly on the zero.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Jun 21, 07:42 AM 2018
noted, thanks. new programmer is away for bit then looking into code, then starting by looking into feeezes.

So far, Maestro is in the lead. Im really hoping ( . Y . ) will pick up the pace and rank first but theyre not doing too well. Go boobs, I believe in you.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Lucky7Red on Jun 21, 09:07 AM 2018
I am good on 4 place cool.  8)
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Jun 21, 10:40 AM 2018
So far, Maestro is in the lead...

I predict now that maestro of the many spins is in the lead he will turn into a chicken.


5323


Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on Jun 21, 02:33 PM 2018
Quote
I predict now that maestro of the many spins is in the lead he will turn into a chicken.

well..choke my chicken...i will wait for you to do 5000 spins and then will do some more


been waisting my time here ...is nice to test things
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Jun 22, 01:44 AM 2018
mcuth is on mpr all afternoon not betting not pressing ready, and not getting booted!

Did you remove the auto boot Steve, or is it easy to circumvent by something like making a bet then removing it?
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Jun 22, 06:46 AM 2018
mcuth is on mpr all afternoon not betting not pressing ready, and not getting booted!

Did you remove the auto boot Steve, or is it easy to circumvent by something like making a bet then removing it?

Didn't you read what your best bud said, refresh the page "DUH" so mcuth has read that comment
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Madi on Jun 24, 10:08 PM 2018
Won some point yesterday. Today log in and winning point vanish only the given bankroll left. Probably the house edge taken those.

Steve
Is it still under repair or already fixed?
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Jun 25, 02:22 AM 2018
Madi whats your username? Message me if you want it private. There are no such known issues.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Madi on Jun 25, 03:30 AM 2018
Sorry to say that same problem again. Not pressing ready still number coming up one after another . U cant place bet in that way.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Turner on Jun 25, 03:53 AM 2018
I found both ways. Plays quick when I didn't press ready. Plays slow when I pressed ready.

Although I was only feeling the game out and getting used to the buttons, I lost a few wins which was still annoying.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Jun 25, 04:57 AM 2018
This game is different to other online roulette games because we are all (whoever's logged on) playing the same spins in real time, so I don't think we will ever see the end of the 'dummy spits' as I call them now. However that doesn't stop the occasional dummy spit when you are playing solo.

Madi, is it possible you accidentally reset your bankroll back to 5000, or perhaps someone else was able to reset it? I know I reset mine more than once by accident before the reboot.

I want to know who reset the blank man's bankroll?....lol.  :xd:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Jun 25, 05:15 AM 2018
I haven't touched anything. I'm waiting for programmer to get back then start looking into issues.

Never had issues with bankroll reset though.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on Jun 25, 06:16 AM 2018



lol
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Madi on Jun 25, 09:57 PM 2018
9000 to 0 again today. Again house edge swallow my point.

No no its not accidental reset.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Jun 25, 10:06 PM 2018
Madi, I'll review the logs. A bankroll reset is something that is initiated on the player's pc, then sent to the server which processes it. It does not happen for no reason. I'll check the logs for clues, but this issue has never been reported by anyone else.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Jun 25, 10:32 PM 2018
The account "Madi" hasnt existed for some time and its not anywhere on the leaderboard or in the current database. So what is your account name?
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Jun 26, 12:04 AM 2018
LOL!

Madi you goose... I had a feeling this was the problem, kind of like the feeling I had about 5000+ being notto.  :thumbsup:


The telling clue to the problem is in your 1st image where it says, welcome to the table, !

So what I strongly suspect has happened is, you stole or decided to use the blank man's account, reset the massive bankroll and have been playing with the blank account, then the real blank man logged on to the blank account and lost your bankroll on purpose...ROFLMFAO!

In fact it wouldn't surprise me if he has lost your bankroll again while I've been typing this response. LOL!

Steve, I think you were right when you said you will delete the blank account. I'm not sure how you will stop anyone making a new blank account though, because all anyone has to do is leave name & password fields empty then click log in. We can all use the blank account, every single one of us.

You're screwed now Madi.

Also it is very rude of you not to answer legitimate questions asked of you on the MPR chat, in regard to you playing with the blank man's account.





 
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Jun 26, 12:13 AM 2018
One more thing, I don't appreciate being woken up to the sounds of maestro swearing at people and marlo mixing drinks.

 :twisted:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Jun 26, 12:14 AM 2018
I will just create a new blank man, and use a freaky password nobody can guess, like Slartibartfast.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Madi on Jun 26, 02:01 AM 2018
What u guys talking about blank man. Who is that? My user name is madi same here. I used to enter there using same name and passward.

Even that doesnt exist how can i play there?
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Madi on Jun 26, 02:11 AM 2018
LOL!

Madi you goose... I had a feeling this was the problem, kind of like the feeling I had about 5000+ being notto.  :thumbsup:



Also it is very rude of you not to answer legitimate questions asked of you on the MPR chat, in regard to you playing with the blank man's account.

What was ur legitimate question? When u get the real answer u gonna. Feel like the question was actually rubbish not legitimate.

I play at a speed of  37spin/ 4-5 min
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Jun 26, 02:15 AM 2018
Madi a little while ago I reset the database and wiped everything clean. It takes a few seconds to create your account again. www.rouletteplayers.org/register
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Madi on Jun 26, 02:17 AM 2018
Steve
I think someone playing with my br. Its again 300 unit down.

The system isnt asking me to login. Its straightway taking me to the game when i click the link
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Jun 26, 02:21 AM 2018
oh dear,

(https://www.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=19308.0;attach=36848;image)
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Madi on Jun 26, 02:23 AM 2018
I think now its ok steve. Done new rego can see my name on there
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Jun 26, 02:25 AM 2018
oh dear,
(https://www.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=19308.0;attach=36848;image)

It's ok, stand back. I've got this.

Madi now your account exists. Once you entered your username and password on the registration page, you were redirected to the game page to begin. Anytime you want to resume play, go to www.rouletteplayers.com and you'll be automatically logged in - unless you were automatically logged out for inactivity. In which case you will see the login page.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Jun 26, 02:25 AM 2018
Ok no problem
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Turner on Jun 27, 04:04 PM 2018
Steve
A suggestion for the betterment of MPR
Forget puck not on zero.....forget login/log out issues....forget  bankroll resets

The biggest 'excuse' will always be the stitched together spins.

I suggest random.org spins. Respected all over the world. No excuses

A true random seeded from big bang microwave background noise

Its quoteable, when challenged, you can say without fear of contradiction....

"Rubbish....these are random.org spins"
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: TurboGenius on Jun 27, 05:18 PM 2018
I completely agree with everything he just said lol.
Why not use a reliable RNG instead of taking spins from wheels that you
A) don't know are even accurate, or
B) stitch them together that can result in non-random spin sets.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Jun 27, 05:21 PM 2018
Its quoteable, when challenged, you can say without fear of contradiction....

"Rubbish....these are random.org spins"
f****** brilliant Turner, i tip my hat to you. Still get 15 non-hit in spins 11-40
(https://www.rouletteforum.cc/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pichost.org%2Fimages%2F2018%2F06%2F27%2Ftemp_762724.png&hash=1bea8923ec6abf3bd4824eba7c32b820) (http://www.pichost.org/image/2ldLB)
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Jun 27, 05:28 PM 2018
If you've read General The KFC +90 to meet the 50/+50 that members set. So spin 35 stop, go to another wheel or reset or do what ever

(https://www.rouletteforum.cc/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pichost.org%2Fimages%2F2018%2F06%2F27%2Ftemp_484885.png&hash=ac5335f5dde0398f18e462a3be36bdba) (http://www.pichost.org/image/2lCv9)
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on Jun 27, 06:43 PM 2018
Quote
Steve
A suggestion for the betterment of MPR
Forget puck not on zero.....forget login/log out issues....forget  bankroll resets

The biggest 'excuse' will always be the stitched together spins.

I suggest random.org spins. Respected all over the world. No excuses

A true random seeded from big bang microwave background noise

Its quoteable, when challenged, you can say without fear of contradiction....

"Rubbish....these are random.org spins"


i always knew you got some grey matter up there. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Jun 27, 06:48 PM 2018
We can do whatever everyone wants. I'll start a poll.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Madi on Jun 27, 09:28 PM 2018
Is br reset  imminent?
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Jun 27, 09:48 PM 2018
Not unless lots of players claim they have been losing because they dont like the spins.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Jun 27, 11:14 PM 2018
Steve I think if you sign up for an RDO account there are paid services, one of which is you can buy way more than the 10k free maximum.

It 's very cheap from memory, and much less hassle.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Turner on Jun 28, 05:10 AM 2018

i always knew you got some grey matter up there. :thumbsup:
Easy Tiger.......it may not happen again
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Jun 28, 05:27 AM 2018
Yeah it burned up your second last brain cell. You need the last one for beer and football or whatever you english people do.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Turner on Jun 28, 06:10 AM 2018
beer and football
Im in Italy at the moment on hols, so you are correct on both counts :thumbsup:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Logician on Jun 28, 04:14 PM 2018

What is the web address for this MPR game? And is it free?
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: ati on Jun 28, 06:51 PM 2018
http://www.rouletteplayers.org/ It's free and it's on the main page of this forum. Hard to miss.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Jun 30, 10:39 AM 2018
You need to start at
www.rouletteplayers.org/register
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Jun 30, 07:24 PM 2018
dont bother you cant get on freeze 00:23 off to R-sim
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: ignatus on Jul 01, 06:12 AM 2018
MPR is frozen.. :/
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Jul 01, 06:26 AM 2018
Yes the programmer started work on it and replicating freezes. They'll be fixed soon enough.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on Jul 11, 11:22 AM 2018
can this moron <maha> be f***** off from MPR so people can have decent game
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on Jul 19, 07:18 PM 2018
this one must broke some records :xd: :xd: :xd:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Jul 19, 07:43 PM 2018
Maybe you should complain to random.org
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Normy2000 on Jul 19, 07:43 PM 2018
Hope you were on RED!  >:D
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Madi on Jul 19, 07:44 PM 2018
No excuse mate. Thats random from steve. Surely havent seen in casino yet. Oh god.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on Jul 19, 07:55 PM 2018
maybe i dont give a shittt... :xd:

is fake as always :xd: :xd:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on Jul 19, 07:56 PM 2018
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Hope you were on RED!

i am always on red..did you not know.... :thumbsup:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Normy2000 on Jul 20, 07:47 AM 2018
can this moron <maha> be f***** off from MPR so people can have decent game
Replace <maha> by <1redfan>
thanks
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: denzie on Jul 20, 08:22 AM 2018
No excuse mate. Thats random from steve. Surely havent seen in casino yet. Oh god.

Max i saw was 19 reds in a row
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: DoctorSudoku on Jul 20, 04:36 PM 2018

Maybe you should complain to random.org



random.org does sometimes produce strange sequences.

A couple of years ago, I had downloaded a set of 200 numbers from them.

The first 20 numbers consisted of the following:

Dozen 1 -- 0 time
Dozen 2 -- 1 time
Dozen 3 -- 19 times.

I nowadays do NOT do any testing with numbers that are electronically generated.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Turner on Jul 20, 07:55 PM 2018
this one must broke some records :xd: :xd: :xd:

They arnt coloured red when they come out of Random.org.

....and there is the bombshell lol :thumbsup:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on Jul 20, 08:39 PM 2018
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They arnt coloured red when they come out of Random.org.

nope...Steve painted it :twisted: :twisted:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Jul 20, 08:56 PM 2018
Always an excuse for losing. Whether spins from real wheels or random.org. The problem is not the source of spins. It's your system.

Next time I'll screen record generating the spins. Your logic will be i paid random.org to make you lose.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Scarface on Jul 20, 09:08 PM 2018
This is not fake.  This is what random does! 
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Normy2000 on Jul 20, 09:56 PM 2018
Steve, i tought we had an auto-logoff function on MPR?
Player "1redfan" is there for 12h not betting and not ready...
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Jul 20, 10:01 PM 2018
Its probably some sore loser with a bot clicking refresh, protesting the red streak. Some people express themselves in strange ways.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Normy2000 on Jul 21, 06:17 AM 2018
Thanks for your answer.
Is there a way to kick him out  :question:
24h now, with 0 bet placed  >:(
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Lucky7Red on Jul 21, 08:46 AM 2018
It will be easier to cut time on 12 seconds instead 30 seconds why to bother with this kind of people.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Jul 21, 10:32 AM 2018
12s is too short. I booted them anyway.

I may make registration manually approved so we don't get so many duplicate accounts, or accounts just to cause trouble.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Jul 21, 11:13 AM 2018
B+M busy time 60 seconds plus, but you keep 30; showed RG one can lay such large groups in these modern times even on MPR, most annoying part is when # comes through by someone leaving
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on Jul 22, 06:40 AM 2018
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Maybe you should complain to random.org


Steve when this spin file is done can you please upload this file as  i am sure there were 2 or 3 more reds even before i screen shot it...
and if you have time stamp and date too so i can send it to friend who works with random org...want to see what he would tell me about it..thanks
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Jul 22, 06:49 AM 2018
if you have time stamp and date too so i can send it to friend who works with random org...want to see what he would tell me about it..thanks

Yes M be interesting to hear/see what your friend makes of this.
M, collected 153 sets of 148 #'s from random.org 75 times all 37 have hit, so do we really see 1 or2 remaining take 100's of spins?
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Jul 22, 06:56 AM 2018
I think i already uploaded it. I just haven't given the file password yet.

What do you expect your friend could tell you? I even gave the exact link i used to generate the spins.

There are often complaints about the spins,.. same people. I've been open and transparent about them. If you don't like them, i can't help you. They are just however they are.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on Jul 22, 08:11 AM 2018
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What do you expect your friend could tell you?


same what you told me... :thumbsup:
spins are what they are
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Jul 22, 08:56 AM 2018
You should spend more time thinking about problems with your system, instead of blaming the spins.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on Jul 22, 11:37 AM 2018
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You should spend more time thinking about problems with your system, instead of blaming the spins.


this is exact reason why some people tell you to f*** off...you act as a guru and try to tell what is right and what is not.....no one knows everyone learns day by day even some great minds been proven wrong...remember this


and no i do not need to do anything with the way i play...thanks
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Jul 22, 05:07 PM 2018
Maestro, you are complaining about the spins and clearly losing. You are blaming the game and spins, without considering maybe your system doesnt work.

So i say that, and you cry about it. Grow up.

Sure,people like you tell me to f*** off because they blame me for their own shortcomings.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on Jul 22, 06:07 PM 2018
there is no system so i blame no one..relax :thumbsup:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Jul 22, 06:23 PM 2018
You play thousands of spins on mpr. You lose. You complain about the spins and the game. You didnt use any system when making the losses. Your "real system" works elsewhere. You are just complaining about the spins, because.

Thankyou for clarifying.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on Jul 22, 07:03 PM 2018
Steve i do not care what you think or say and i am sure this works both ways...so you do what you do and i will play whatever i play  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Normy2000 on Jul 25, 09:48 AM 2018
Another one doing nothing for 24 hours...  >:(

don88888
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Jul 25, 12:33 PM 2018
Get your two monkiey's Steve and general to sort him out     ‹(•¿•)› SlowMo ‹(•¿•)›
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Normy2000 on Jul 25, 01:47 PM 2018
What do mean notto  :question:
SlowMo is my player...
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Jul 25, 05:08 PM 2018
i already made a reply but must be being watched as its not there
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: plolp on Jul 26, 06:30 AM 2018

How is it that "don888" is not ejected while not playing any moves ?
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Jul 26, 08:06 AM 2018
I think Steve's given up on these assholes. He did try to resolve the problem, well a little bit.
It's hard to stop assholes farting, at the least you need a very good plug, and good plugs cost money.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Jul 26, 10:35 AM 2018
But it's only 30 seconds to wait, even i have to wait after laying anywhere near to 30 #'s, the rebet is fine, so i have to wait, are you that keen to get another BR reset
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Normy2000 on Jul 26, 10:49 AM 2018
Notto, If you can code a bot that read results, wait for a trigger, select the right chip, place it at the right place...
... why dont you add a small function call "Click on Ready" when all the above is done  :question:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Jul 26, 12:01 PM 2018
It is someone trying to piss off me or everyone. For now i'll manually remove them, but later ill make it much more difficult for them to do it. Its not hard but maybe the game needs a few mods too. Click and gone.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Normy2000 on Jul 26, 12:02 PM 2018
Thanks Steve  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Normy2000 on Jul 26, 01:26 PM 2018
Too bad, he is back...
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Normy2000 on Aug 13, 04:48 PM 2018
What a team,  :P  :xd:

No, no system played (just feeling) so nothing to sell...  8)
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: precogmiles on Aug 13, 05:34 PM 2018
What a team,  :P  :xd:

No, no system played (just feeling) so nothing to sell...  8)

I remember you telling me that in the chat.

Well done, just goes to prove precognition/intuition is the way to go.

my test account (pcm) with about 10 reset bankrolls is now at position 11.

Initially the account was just to test a few systems, but the past two days I've decided to use precog and I've climbed up the leader board and went from winrate of 0.88 to 0.97
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on Aug 14, 07:59 AM 2018
when mactwat will be f***** off
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Aug 19, 07:17 PM 2018
Hey. call it intuition, but I get the feeling that we have a new arsehole not playing the game, just staying logged in all day & night.

Steve, can you bump 'intuition' off the game, please?

Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Aug 19, 07:40 PM 2018
They seem to be actively playing
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Aug 19, 07:56 PM 2018
When I went to bed last night at 9.30pm intuition was on 43 spins played. It's now 10 in the morning and intuition is on 43 spins played.

Not so actively playing....just hanging there hogging the game.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Aug 19, 08:06 PM 2018
You went to bed 9:30pm? Old man.


We need some mods for the game. The new programmer I had went AWOL so I'll find a new one. If intuition continues to do nothing let me know and I'll delete them.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Aug 19, 08:27 PM 2018
I'm advertising for a new programmer. Have there been any other problems? How about freezes?


The mods will allow moderators to boot anyone hanging around (not to be abused).


Who wants to be a mod?
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Aug 20, 12:29 AM 2018
Now 2.30pm, intuition still there and still on 43 spins played.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on Aug 20, 04:47 AM 2018
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Now 2.30pm, intuition still there and still on 43 spins played


another prick in the wall
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Tinsoldiers on Aug 20, 01:25 PM 2018
Who wants to be a mod?
You just need a simple mod which will kick out anyone inactive in their screen for 10 mins or so. Moderators for kicking people seems a very complicated solution.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Aug 20, 06:24 PM 2018
Tin, mpr already does that when no bets for 10 spins. It appears some people without a life use a bot to keep logging back in to annoy people. Its an easy fix and ill hire a new programmer today. But im adding a few features so im not sure what will be done first.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Moxy on Aug 21, 05:58 PM 2018
Tin, mpr already does that when no bets for 10 spins. It appears some people without a life use a bot to keep logging back in to annoy people. Its an easy fix and ill hire a new programmer today. But im adding a few features so im not sure what will be done first.

Hi Steve,

I had some family things to attend to but I am ready to commence.   I want to either pay you a visit some time in the future or you come visit me.   Everything recorded with real live spins courtesy of your wheels giving it the proper impact.   I am eager for your response. 

Thank you.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Aug 21, 06:20 PM 2018
Exactly what are you referring to?
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Moxy on Aug 21, 07:01 PM 2018
Exactly what are you referring to?

I said I'll test out my system on MPR but it is extraneous because we'll eventually have to come face to face so I want to pay you a visit in the near future.   It is the proper way, anyways, I believe.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Aug 21, 07:46 PM 2018
Why do you need to visit me to test on MPR?
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Moxy on Aug 21, 07:54 PM 2018
Why do you need to visit me to test on MPR?

Test with your real wheels in person.   Nothing more visceral/impactful than seeing it tested on live wheels in person, that's the point.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Aug 21, 08:00 PM 2018
I barely have time to do demos and meetings related to my own technology. For each meeting I drive an hour each way, set up the wheel, then it takes time to do proper testing. It's a full day. I'm still not clear on why you want to demonstrate your method to me.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Moxy on Aug 21, 08:06 PM 2018
I barely have time to do demos and meetings related to my own technology. For each meeting I drive an hour each way, set up the wheel, then it takes time to do proper testing. It's a full day. I'm still not clear on why you want to demonstrate your method to me.

I suggest I come straight to you.  Why wouldn't you want to see it in person?  I mean this was a major reason to have a forum like this, I presume, and a place to promote your computers as well.   I'm not trying to waste your time here.   This serves everyone involved.  Why do you make it seem like I came out of the blue.  I've kind of been progressing this along with prior discussions with you. 

Here's the beginning of our last discussion as a refresher:

https://www.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=20484.msg203779#msg203779
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Moxy on Aug 21, 08:32 PM 2018
I acknowledge that you have a lot of things on your plate (blogs, forums, testing, programming, etc) since I do read your blog but I am adamant that I won't waste your time.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Aug 21, 08:33 PM 2018
A lot of people contact me claiming to have the HG, but don't. If I tried to meet with everyone with such claims it wouldn't even be possible because of the time it would take.


Why not just show me on MPR? I can easily switch to a real spin database.


Or why not show me winnings in an online casino account?


Even if I watched you for a whole day of spins, it wouldn't be statistically relevant unless you had additional elements to back up predictions, like predicting where the ball would hit the rotor.


There are much simpler ways to validate your claims.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Moxy on Aug 21, 08:44 PM 2018
A lot of people contact me claiming to have the HG, but don't. If I tried to meet with everyone with such claims it wouldn't even be possible because of the time it would take.


Why not just show me on MPR? I can easily switch to a real spin database.


Or why not show me winnings in an online casino account?


Even if I watched you for a whole day of spins, it wouldn't be statistically relevant unless you had additional elements to back up predictions, like predicting where the ball would hit the rotor.


There are much simpler ways to validate your claims.



I just don't want to be brushed off after extensive testing.  That's my concern.  I'm also afraid to ask you what my next step was since you specifically scolded me last time to set the parameters for testing my system so I just went with MPR.   

https://www.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=20484.msg203812#msg203812

Just curious, how many people actually came to you personally?
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Aug 21, 08:52 PM 2018
I just don't want to be brushed off after extensive testing.  That's my concern.

One day of testing (about 300 spins) is not extensive testing. You can do much more testing with MPR or at an online casino, without me spending so much time. And more extensive testing is better. If you test a whole day with me in person and there's a profit, it would still be pointless without additional validating information like what I described.

so I just went with MPR.   

What's your MPR username?

Just curious, how many people actually came to you personally?

If you mean demos or meetings with me, over the years roughly 60 different meetings/demos, excluding online/webcam demos.

If you mean people claiming to have the HG wanting to prove it, I usually get about 1 each week.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Moxy on Aug 21, 08:59 PM 2018
I meant being brushed off after extensive MPR testing in the tens of thousands or much more.   I presume, that's your baseline number.  I just need a little vote of confidence that I won't be brushed off.

Well, if we met up and used random.org, I can play at least thousands of "spins"  for you in a full day, hypothetically.  Good idea? 

How many actually met up with you in person?




Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Moxy on Aug 21, 09:09 PM 2018
Random.org produces fast results (not as fast as pseudo-random numbers) and as random (basically true randomness) as you can get using atmospheric noise so it is quite useful for extensive testing in a very short amount of time. 

 I will register my nickname and tell you eventually when I start testing.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Aug 21, 09:25 PM 2018
I meant being brushed off after extensive MPR testing in the tens of thousands or much more.   I presume, that's your baseline number.  I just need a little vote of confidence that I won't be brushed off.

If your account is positive after thousands of spins, you'll have my attention but that still is not conclusive proof of the HG. Its like bias analysis - you can test over thousands of spins, and see a statistical anomaly that indicates possible bias. But still that's not 100% proof of bias. Simple the more data, the more assured you are. But if you have other supporting data, then you dont need anywhere near as many spins.

Well, if we met up and used random.org, I can play at least thousands of "spins"  for you in a full day, hypothetically.  Good idea? 

It's far simpler and easier if you create an account and play on MPR. It would be much the same thing but without spending time with me. If what you say is true, then you should be able to rank 1st no problem. Then you'll have my and everyone's attention.

How many actually met up with you in person?

100+ individuals over about 10 years

I will register my nickname and tell you eventually when I start testing.

Ok no problem. Again if you rank very well you'll have my and everyone's attention, then we can look at proceeding further.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Moxy on Aug 21, 09:38 PM 2018
If your account is positive after thousands of spins, you'll have my attention but that still is not conclusive proof of the HG. Its like bias analysis - you can test over thousands of spins, and see a statistical anomaly that indicates possible bias. But still that's not 100% proof of bias. Simple the more data, the more assured you are. But if you have other supporting data, then you dont need anywhere near as many spins.

Just so you know, I am not the least bit concerned about extensive testing into the hundreds of thousands, even millions, considering what I am asking for on our prior discussion.   But it could be a leap of faith if you back down from our spoken 'agreement' of at least a couple mil and offer far less.

Okay, I might die of old age if we're talking millions. :xd:

It's far simpler and easier if you create an account and play on MPR. It would be much the same thing but without spending time with me. If what you say is true, then you should be able to rank 1st no problem. Then you'll have my and everyone's attention.

Actually, I'd really rather not have that, tbh.




Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Aug 21, 09:47 PM 2018
If you are asking for potentially millions for your HG, then there would need to be very clear proof. Keep it simple. Start with MPR and if results are good, we can look at coding into RX and doing more extensive testing. You would keep the RX code confidential until payment was in escrow. But we'll get to that if we get to that.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Moxy on Aug 21, 09:49 PM 2018
If you are asking for potentially millions for your HG, then there would need to be very clear proof. Keep it simple. Start with MPR and if results are good, we can look at coding into RX and doing more extensive testing. You would keep the RX code confidential until payment was in escrow. But we'll get to that if we get to that.

Awesome.  Thank you for your time and patience, Steve. 
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Aug 21, 10:31 PM 2018
Programmer started work to add game moderators. Mods will be able to boot and ban accounts.


If dickheads create new accounts, I'll just add recaptcha to the registration form so it would cost time/money to keep going. If they use a captcha breaking service, then I'll add a custom captcha. I could easily manually approve accounts too, or use email verification and typical spam prevention methods. It can easily be at the point where you'd need the time of a fat lonely guy in a basement to continue. We cant realistically make it 100% secure against people without a life, same as moderating forums. As far as I know, only one person has so little of a life to do such things, like read every message on other forums then quote members to criticize them, acting like he wins at roulette. Some people forget to get outside.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on Aug 22, 06:46 AM 2018
cannot bet 25$ and 100$ on straights...is it a bug
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Aug 22, 07:41 AM 2018
Fixed now. I assume the new programmer, who just started accessing it, changed the settings for some unknown reason (the inside betting limits)
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on Aug 22, 07:45 AM 2018
thanks
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Aug 23, 04:55 AM 2018
Hey Steve, is 'admin2' your new programmer or just another arsehole bot?
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Aug 23, 05:07 AM 2018
The programmer
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Aug 23, 08:08 AM 2018
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on Aug 24, 04:00 PM 2018
is the game f***** again as i cannot log in and my user name is not on players list ...do you have to reset banks again
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Normy2000 on Aug 24, 05:30 PM 2018
Lost my 2 players too (Slomo and normy2000)  :question:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on Aug 24, 05:53 PM 2018
used to know old player and used to say

happens once.....no reason
happens twice....chance
happens third time...there is more than what we think is


Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Aug 24, 06:39 PM 2018
I backed up the database before the programmer worked on it. This would be his doing, ill talk to him
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Aug 24, 06:41 PM 2018
used to know old player and used to say happens once.....no reason happens twice....chance happens third time...there is more than what we think is
maestro its not a conspiracy to hide the hg ok?
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on Aug 24, 06:51 PM 2018
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maestro its not a conspiracy to hide the hg ok?


Title: Re: MPR
Post by: plolp on Aug 26, 12:45 PM 2018
The player " OMD " don't play  and don't "ready"

All the day
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Aug 26, 12:57 PM 2018
There's a saying  "Patience is a virtue"
Why Patience is a virtue?
Following are some benefits of practicing patience, as well as some expanded explanations of why impatience is so unhelpful in your life. Exhibiting patience means that you can be persistent and stay in something for the long run. ... Patience is a virtue because it requires self-control.

Self control, not hard is it?

Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Roulettebeater on Aug 26, 02:16 PM 2018
There's a saying  "Patience is a virtue"
Why Patience is a virtue?
Following are some benefits of practicing patience, as well as some expanded explanations of why impatience is so unhelpful in your life. Exhibiting patience means that you can be persistent and stay in something for the long run. ... Patience is a virtue because it requires self-control.

Self control, not hard is it?

Patience leads to power while greed leads to hell

If you are gambler and have greed, it’s like you uncover your ass and bend over in a f****** house ... so expect it ! Expect to get f***** in any moment !
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on Aug 26, 07:09 PM 2018
Steve is there any update  on MPR...
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Aug 26, 07:19 PM 2018
I'm supposed to see a demo by the programmer today with mods complete. I dont know if he's the reliable one I was hoping for. He has already given me issues with not reading instructions and even deleted accounts, which will be restored. Luckily I backed up the database.


If you've ever hired programmers extensively before, you'd know its very hard to find a reliable one. We'll have to wait and see.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Aug 26, 10:40 PM 2018

If you've ever hired programmers extensively before, you'd know its very hard to find a reliable one.

Just be sure they're not fat. I've never met a reliable fat programmer.  :twisted:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Aug 26, 11:05 PM 2018
The last fat programmer I hired let the billing clock run and charged $8000 literally for almost nothing. He said he "felt bad" and would repay me with lots of work. I got nothing, no refund, and no response when I sent other project details to him. I guess my fault for trusting a fat programmer. Id still like to pop a cap in his fat arse.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Aug 27, 01:55 AM 2018
There's a saying  "Patience is a virtue"
Why Patience is a virtue?
Following are some benefits of practicing patience, as well as some expanded explanations of why impatience is so unhelpful in your life. Exhibiting patience means that you can be persistent and stay in something for the long run. ... Patience is a virtue because it requires self-control.

Self control, not hard is it?

What kind of person codes and deploys a bot with the sole purpose of testing people's patience? Seriously, where's the virtue in that?

We can be confident that's the only reason these few bot players are here, because they add code for a refresh function so they don't get booted. Where they could just as easily add code for a press ready function so they don't get booted.

You really are a dipshit notto...
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: sugtips on Aug 27, 05:30 AM 2018
The last fat programmer I hired let the billing clock run and charged $8000 literally for almost nothing. He said he "felt bad" and would repay me with lots of work. I got nothing, no refund, and no response when I sent other project details to him. I guess my fault for trusting a fat programmer. Id still like to pop a cap in his fat arse.

Good Morning Sir,

Sir why don't you just give this work to any professional software development company near you?

regards,
SugTips
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Aug 27, 05:38 AM 2018
Because it would cost 5x more, and firms often use multiple programmers, who each have their own coding style and it only takes one to make a mess of the source. And why would it matter to them as its the company reputation, not theirs.

Ive dealt with firms before. They are messy unless youre dealing with very large and professionally managed projects, it is far better, especially in this case to go with an individual with their profile reviews at stake, if they do a bad job. I could almost do the coding for this myself. It needs only a reasonably experienced dev. But sometimes you get unlucky and hire a mess. I have long term relationships with developers in higher priority work. But they're focused on other apps
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on Aug 27, 05:50 AM 2018
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If you've ever hired programmers extensively before, you'd know its very hard to find a reliable one. We'll have to wait and see.

ok..let me know when my user name is back on the players list and i am able to log in 
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: plolp on Aug 27, 05:54 AM 2018

But there is also the player "OMD" who does not play a single spin .
Night and day ....
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Aug 30, 02:23 AM 2018
I cancelled the contract with the programmer and told him where he can go. Waste of time. I have a to hire someone else now. He isnt even responding to refund request.


Regarding the deleted usernames, they'll be restored in the state they were at before. Dont create a new account with the same username because they'll be overwritten later.


This wont affect other users. Basically the programmer screwed up and logged in, thinking he'll test and clicked delete on users at the top. In admin settings the users are ordered from highest to lowest rank. He denied it but its bullshit.


Anyway i'll look at other programmers.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Aug 30, 08:38 AM 2018

Look, I know I really shouldn't, but...........LOL!
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Sep 13, 09:46 AM 2018
Is a reset coming Steve as MPR stops on 1s, done all the usual you say clear this and everything else.
Don't you like the top of the leaderboard
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: precogmiles on Sep 13, 03:03 PM 2018


I'm having the same issue.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on Sep 13, 03:57 PM 2018
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Don't you like the top of the leaderboard

looks fine to me... :twisted: :twisted:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Sep 13, 05:01 PM 2018
The programmer is working on the mods. Hes probably working on the server
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Sep 14, 01:39 AM 2018
The modification for moderators to boot and ban users is now complete.

Next we need to determine who will become moderators. It doesn't really matter how many moderators there are, as long as you're responsible. Although I prefer to have just a few moderators, who regularly play or are at least active forum members. Let me know if you want to be a mod.


MODERATOR GUIDELINES:

- If you receive a complaint about a member, first check www.rouletteplayers.org/leaderboard to see if they're actively playing.

- To immediately boot and ban a user, go to www.rouletteplayers.org/moderate and toggle "ban/unban" for the user (you need to be added as a moderator to see this page).

- Before you ban a player, try chatting them via the chat window. If they don't respond within about a minute, go to the moderation page and click "Ban". To undo, click "Unban".

- Use your common sense and only ban accounts that disrupt the game (such as bots).
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Sep 14, 01:40 AM 2018
Next I need to restore the accounts that were deleted by the stupid c*nt programmer who didn't know his ass from his elbow.

If your account was deleted, let me know and I'll see how i can restore it, including all your stats.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Sep 14, 02:54 AM 2018
(https://www.rouletteforum.cc/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pichost.org%2Fimages%2F2018%2F09%2F14%2Fsource852fb.png&hash=f6fc9cb567903359a24d08cd089c687f) (http://www.pichost.org/image/tuOQa)

Your going to let someone like this be a Mod, Lord helps us
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Sep 14, 03:05 AM 2018
I suppose someone who creates tonnes of duplicate accounts like APsucks and assorted crap with my name in it, trying to piss me off, would be better, right Notto??
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Sep 14, 03:57 AM 2018
(https://www.rouletteforum.cc/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pichost.org%2Fimages%2F2018%2F09%2F14%2Fsource852fb.png&hash=f6fc9cb567903359a24d08cd089c687f) (http://www.pichost.org/image/tuOQa)

Your going to let someone like this be a Mod, Lord helps us


Oh mate, you're in deep shit now notto!

LOL
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Sep 14, 04:30 AM 2018
Congratulations, taotie, our first mpr mod. What username?
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Sep 14, 06:20 AM 2018
For the record, I didn't put my hand up to moderate the MPR, but seeing as nottophammer kindly and in a round about way, nominated me for the position, I accept.

Steve, username is bombus, definitely bombus.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Sep 14, 08:17 AM 2018

Oh mate, you're in deep shit now notto!

LOL

See Steve we've not even got on and threats from  bombus, aka Taotie, one of how many, is he the general as well, or better still is he you,Steve
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Sep 14, 08:22 AM 2018
Too funny.
Last person that thought I was Steve was Charles Edward Hampshire, and wasn't that fun.

ROFLMFAO
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Sep 14, 08:25 AM 2018
Notto, are you mr j?
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Normy2000 on Sep 14, 09:20 AM 2018
Next I need to restore the accounts that were deleted by the stupid c*nt programmer who didn't know his ass from his elbow.

If your account was deleted, let me know and I'll see how i can restore it, including all your stats.
Please restore my 2 players Slomo and nOrMy2o0o, thanks
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Sep 14, 11:42 PM 2018
Ok first il try and add everything via admin interface, then ask the programmer if it doesnt work. Need to do monday when im at my pc.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: precogmiles on Sep 15, 03:49 PM 2018
Hi Steve, Any chance you can go back to using your old spins instead of Random.org?

MPR was more unique with those spins.

Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Sep 15, 08:56 PM 2018
We can vote on it again later. Only recently the vote indicated most people wanted rng. I dont see any point in rng but thats what people wanted
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on Sep 16, 01:56 AM 2018
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I dont see any point in rng

why...if you can win on RNG is even beter than BM casino
BM casino=slow spins
RNG=fast spins

x amount units per spin won.....
and i guess you do know math :twisted: :twisted:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on Sep 16, 02:03 AM 2018
when you will load back my old user account wih stupid amount of spins
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Sep 16, 06:25 AM 2018
why...if you can win on RNG is even beter than BM casino

Because it appears nobody can beat rng except in cases where flawed prng is used. Even using prng makes more sense than trng, because theres a chance of an edge. But still prng is not roulette. Its a slot machine. So if we want to simulate roulette, doesnt using real spins database make more sense?

BM casino=slow spins
RNG=fast spins

Considering the spins are from a text file i upload, does your comment apply to mpr?
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Sep 16, 06:26 AM 2018
when you will load back my old user account wih stupid amount of spins

Your account was clearly in the red. Are you sure you want it back?
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Joe on Sep 16, 08:17 AM 2018
Because it appears nobody can beat rng except in cases where flawed prng is used. Even using prng makes more sense than trng, because theres a chance of an edge. But still prng is not roulette. Its a slot machine. So if we want to simulate roulette, doesnt using real spins database make more sense?

I think we've had this conversation before, but RNG, whether TRNG or PRNG is not a slot machine, it's a simulation of roulette. Nobody can tell the difference between real spins and RNG over the length of a typical session (and I would say that nobody can tell the difference over any number of spins as long as they're less than the RNG cycle, but that's irrelevant here). But more to the point, if you're using a file of spins there's always a chance that they could be compromised, or copied. If you or one of the programmers was in a playful mood they could register and clean up ;-). Or if a scammer got hold of them they could then "prove" that their system worked by demonstrating it on MPR.

To avoid this, as well as the hassle of using files, not to mention extra work for the programmer (with the attendant higher chance of introducing bugs), why not use the programming language's internal RNG? That way there would be no chance of spins being copied or known by anyone prior to a game, and it would make life easier for everyone. If you want a better quality RNG than the default used by the language you can import the code for one. The mersenne twister is a good one, and it may well be the default RNG used in javascript anyway.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Sep 16, 08:44 AM 2018
RNG, whether TRNG or PRNG is not a slot machine

Slot machines use prng. Prng roulette is indeed a slot machine, just with roulette animations. The only other difference is odds and payouts. But different slots can have different odds and payouts and stil be slot machines.

 What matters is the mechanism that determines game outcomes, and the opportunities to exploit it. Trng, prng, real wheels, cards, lotto balls or whatever.... its all odds vs payout.

AP is simply exploiting the mechanism that determines game outcomes. To call that nonsense, as some people do, is just plain dumb.

Nobody can tell the difference between real spins and RNG over the length of a typical session (and I would say that nobody can tell the difference over any number of spins as long as they're less than the RNG cycle, but that's irrelevant here).

Not true. The truth requires a lot of explanation. But basically rng and real spins have some major differences that can easily be noticed. The differences depend on the physics of the wheel being compared. If you're looking only at say 30 winning numbers and nothing else, then as with any short term data, the less likely you are to know the difference. But in normal circumstances with perhaps hundreds of spins, it is not difficult to know the difference, even from numbers alone. But there are requirements like the wheel being suitable, the conditions remaining within certain parameters etc. But then add some small details like diamond hits, and the difference is obvious. Add a few more details and the difference is exponentially clearer. To explain the full story is pages. But basically rng is very different to real spins, and it's not hard to demonstrate.

But more to the point, if you're using a file of spins there's always a chance that they could be compromised, or copied. If you or one of the programmers was in a playful mood they could register and clean up ;-). Or if a scammer got hold of them they could then "prove" that their system worked by demonstrating it on MPR.

Possible but unlikely. But i wasnt born yesterday and am confident if someone cheated, eventually the truth would come out.

To avoid this, as well as the hassle of using files, not to mention extra work for the programmer (with the attendant higher chance of introducing bugs), why not use the programming language's internal RNG?

Because it's flawed and predictable. A high quality rng is random.org, but as i explained before the ideal source is real spins, the only real roulette.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Joe on Sep 16, 08:58 AM 2018
Because it's flawed and predictable. A high quality rng is random.org, but as i explained before the ideal source is real spins, the only real roulette.

In what way are PRNG's flawed and predictable? if that was true online casinos could be exploited easily.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Joe on Sep 16, 09:01 AM 2018
Not true. The truth requires a lot of explanation. But basically rng and real spins have some major differences that can easily be noticed.

I disagree, but how is this relevant to MPR when there is no wheel?

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the ideal source is real spins, the only real roulette.

Again I disagree, but MPR is software. What possible use could using real spins be when you can't measure or track any physical variables?

Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Sep 16, 09:52 AM 2018
I disagree, but how is this relevant to MPR when there is no wheel?

Because we're talking about the difference between mpr using real wheel or rng spins.

Again I disagree, but MPR is software. What possible use could using real spins be when you can't measure or track any physical variables?

Because in some capacity, with spins alone (no extra data) its still possible to know and exploit the difference. As i said previously, if i were trying to win on mpr with real spins database, id use an approach related to dealer signature. Its not proper AP, but far better than repeaters etc.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on Sep 16, 11:14 AM 2018
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Your account was clearly in the red. Are you sure you want it back?

dont care just upload my last account it had 250000 something...

and yes i want it back bored with <resetme> and <do resetme> accounts

thanK you
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Joe on Sep 16, 11:20 AM 2018
Because in some capacity, with spins alone (no extra data) its still possible to know and exploit the difference. As i said previously, if i were trying to win on mpr with real spins database, id use an approach related to dealer signature. Its not proper AP, but far better than repeaters etc.

I can't see how you could exploit dealer signature without at least knowing such things as which direction the dealer is spinning, how fast the wheel's turning, etc, so we'll have to agree to disagree.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: The General on Sep 16, 04:34 PM 2018
If live spins were loaded into the MPR another way to reduce the edge is to exploit the human element.  The fact that people collect the data and enter it before relaying it to Steve opens the door for duplicate data strings and repeating strings within the data.  Removing dupes in large quantities of data requires some rather sophisticated software to keep the number streams clean.   It's important to run such software to keep data pure.  If the software isn't used, then chances are there is a very slight reduction in the house edge to be had by betting the repeats and repeating strings.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Sep 16, 07:52 PM 2018
I can't see how you could exploit dealer signature without at least knowing such things as which direction the dealer is spinning, how fast the wheel's turning, etc, so we'll have to agree to disagree.

Just looking at distance between pockets gives some information, and often enough for an edge. You can also assume rotor direction is either the same or alternates between spins, at least for the next few spins - same for assuming its the same dealer for the next few spins at least. There's also the potential of bias, which can appear as a slight data anomaly. Then if you cross reference it with anomalies related to dealer signature, the two pattern types can back each other up, which can be used to tell a player when a pattern is more likely to be legitimate, rather than coincidence. There's more, at least to reduce the house edge, and sometimes to give a player edge. But again proper AP needs more. There are certainly cases where the spin data is enough though.

Would I spend time on trying to get an edge in these circumstances, if this was a real-play situation? No. It would be a struggle, especially considering better conditions and options.

If live spins were loaded into the MPR another way to reduce the edge is to exploit the human element.  The fact that people collect the data and enter it before relaying it to Steve opens the door for duplicate data strings and repeating strings within the data.  Removing dupes in large quantities of data requires some rather sophisticated software to keep the number streams clean.   It's important to run such software to keep data pure.  If the software isn't used, then chances are there is a very slight reduction in the house edge to be had by betting the repeats and repeating strings.

Yes it's one possible way to attach the mechanism that determines winning number, also known as AP. To reduce the possibility of these flaws, I source spins only from credible players and spin profiles that match specific requirements. It doesn't guarantee no issues, but they're very unlikely. If I ever used real spins again, I could easily create a simple program to check for repeat sequences over say 10 numbers. It could be more thorough, but a such a process would weed out almost all repeated data, if there were any.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on Sep 17, 03:42 PM 2018
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I could easily create a simple program to check for repeat sequences over say 10 numbers

you do not have to ...just do not use same toilet shitty paper to join spins..and now do not go and say <but random is random> because you have no idea


put my user name back to MPR
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Moxy on Sep 17, 05:10 PM 2018
Steve, I'm going to walk away from MPR till your programmer sorts out the bugs.  I'm too frustrated; I can only paper test for now.  I'm still up 3-5 pct (?) over the house edge BUT that is below and beyond it's capability.  Way, way below.

That just opens up tiny seeds of doubt about the program as I've been screwed over by dynamically reactive, cheating online casino algorithms and even WizardofOdds.

Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Moxy on Sep 17, 05:19 PM 2018
But I only played less then 200 spins so it shouldn't mean much yet.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Sep 17, 11:43 PM 2018
Moxy, you said:

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Steve, MPR is going bonkers - duplicate numbers

Previously when people claimed there were duplicate numbers, I checked what they claimed were duplicate numbers (as in a mistake/bug), and it turned out the spins appeared exactly as they should. There is no such known bug. The spins are just whatever they are.

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so I've been only paper testing and nothing else.

What's the point in that if you're intending to demonstrate that your system is what you claim? That was the point of you playing on MPR.

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freezing, and then giving multiple results at once

Freezes are temporary and the result of synchronization between you and the server. They happen with real online casinos too, because sometimes the internet becomes congested. It is unavoidable, but does not affect your ability to win or lose in the long-term.

People have previously complained that they would be making a killing if it weren't for the rare freeze or delay. If your system works, missing spins only reduces the amount of spins you play. Sometimes you'll avoid a win, sometimes you'll avoid a loss. Real online casinos get the same accusations because they have the same limitations as network congestion. It's like a losing player in a casino accusing the casino of using magnets, or the dealer deliberately spinning against them. The truth is simpler- the system doesn't work.

There are two known bugs:

Bug 1: Causes the games to give two numbers in quick succession (probably has has something to do with the ready button, and timing of users leaving the game)

Bug 2: Sometimes players aren't logged off correctly, and it takes some time for the server to dump the cache and log them off. Or a mod can boot them manually.

Both bugs are rare enough to not be a serious problem - certainly not serious enough to claim the game is "going bonkers" to the point where you cant continue play.

I've tested the game extensively to get an idea of the extent of issues like connection lag, and the bugs above. I have not found they are anywhere near "serious". Furthermore, you can see others have played thousands of spins and they aren't complaining.

Perhaps not unexpectedly, players who don't do well on MPR make excuses. I'm not trying to be abrasive. Just putting together the fact that the game is nowhere near "going bonkers", and players who don't do well complain about things that aren't anywhere near a serious problem.

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I also lost my password for the primary acct cause I inadvertently changed it by typing in another password with the aid of Lastpass chrome extension because I got locked out by your program/server trying to get back in, another malfunction of MPR. 

The game doesn't refuse login unless a mod blocks you, you are trying to enter the wrong password, or you are attempting to log on while still logged on from another window (in which case close it and refresh one page), or you werent logged off for some reason in which case you'll appear as logged on to other players (which you arent). So all that's left is you arent using the correct password. Let me know the account name and I'll send it to you.

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Can you get my acct back.  I don't want you to think I am switching accts after my lackluster start.   Just a tad frustrating, if MPR won't cooperate with you even though it always had a bug sometime or another.

As above. MPR is not the problem. The only known bugs are minor. I cant help you remember passwords (besides digging them up again), or fix internet congestion.

I havent been paying attention, but if you've had a "lackluster start" as you said, perhaps it's because whatever you used to test your system previously was not a realistic simulation, where MPR is. Turbo found that, which is why he left and came up with various excuses to play elsewhere.

If there are bugs, they'll be fixed. But again there's no critical bug or issue that would make play significantly different if there were no issues even in a million spins.

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And pertaining to the above.  This is the perfect time for you to transition from computers and I'm only a few years younger than you and we're both relatively young.  I really don't see the reason why I'm being kind of ignored when I've been the one you've been searching for quite a long time a la your earlier posts about transitioning from computers to precognition, etc.  On top of all this, it's tangible.

I'm open to the possibility. But understand my point of view too. Very often someone claims to me they have the HG. Naturally i'm skeptical. And when it comes time to prove it to me, the results don't match their claims.

I'm not "ignoring" you. Really I haven't even looked at the results yet. I intended to after some time, on your instruction.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Sep 17, 11:56 PM 2018
just do not use same toilet shitty paper to join spins

Turbo used that excuse too. Even with random.org spins, your results don't match your mouth.

and now do not go and say <but random is random> because you have no idea

Say we have two joined sets of spins. With group 1, you get 1 in 37 accuracy. With group 2, you get 1 in 37 accuracy. Your win rate is still sub-par. So you borrow Turbo's excuse and blame the spins.

The same excuse implies spins are connected, when they aren't, especially with RNG. Turbo is he wins because RNG is random. So when we increase "randomness", shouldn't that be better? Apparently not. Apparently, it makes you and Turbo lose. Come on guys. Stop blaming everything else for losses.

When the spins were real sessions joined, each session had 300+ spins. The chances are you played the same wheel each time you played. But still your results are what they are, and you fish for excuses.

put my user name back to MPR

Do you want the same stats? I think it would be best if you start again, with purely random.org spins or you'll just make an excuse attacking the game, rather than considering the viability of your system.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Moxy on Sep 18, 12:16 AM 2018
Moxy, you said:

Previously when people claimed there were duplicate numbers, I checked what they claimed were duplicate numbers (as in a mistake/bug), and it turned out the spins appeared exactly as they should. There is no such known bug. The spins are just whatever they are.

What's the point in that if you're intending to demonstrate that your system is what you claim? That was the point of you playing on MPR.

Freezes are temporary and the result of synchronization between you and the server. They happen with real online casinos too, because sometimes the internet becomes congested. It is unavoidable, but does not affect your ability to win or lose in the long-term.

People have previously complained that they would be making a killing if it weren't for the rare freeze or delay. If your system works, missing spins only reduces the amount of spins you play. Sometimes you'll avoid a win, sometimes you'll avoid a loss. Real online casinos get the same accusations because they have the same limitations as network congestion.

There is two known bugs:

Bug 1: Causes the games to give two numbers in quick succession (probably has has something to do with the ready button, and timing of users leaving the game)

Bug 2: Sometimes players aren't logged off correctly, and it takes some time for the server to dump the cache and log them off. Or a mod can boot them manually.

Both bugs are rare enough to not be a serious problem - certainly not serious enough to claim the game is "going bonkers" to the point where you cant continue play.

I've tested the game extensively to get an idea of the extent of issues like connection lag, and the bugs above. I have not found they are anywhere near "serious". Furthermore, you can see others have played thousands of spins and they aren't complaining.

Perhaps not unexpectedly, players who don't do well on MPR make excuses. I'm not trying to be abrasive. Just putting together the fact that the game is nowhere near "going bonkers", and players who don't do well complain about things that aren't anywhere near a serious problem.

The game doesn't refuse login unless a mod blocks you, you are trying to enter the wrong password, or you are attempting to log on while still logged on from another window (in which case close it and refresh one page), or you werent logged off for some reason in which case you'll appear as logged on to other players (which you arent). So all that's left is you arent using the correct password. Let me know the account name and I'll send it to you.

As above. MPR is not the problem. The only known bugs are minor. I cant help you remember passwords (besides bidding them up again), or fix internet congestion.

I havent been paying attention, but if you've had a "lackluster start" as you said, perhaps it's because whatever you used to test your system previously was not a realistic simulation, where MPR is. Turbo found that, which is why he left and came up with various excuses to play elsewhere.

If there are bugs, they'll be fixed. But again there's no critical bug or issue that would make play significantly different if there were no issues even in a million spins.

I'm open to the possibility. But understand my point of view too. Very often someone claims to me they have the HG. Naturally i'm skeptical. And when it comes time to prove it to me, the results don't match their claims.

I'm not "ignoring" you. Really I haven't even looked at the results yet. I intended to after some time, on your instruction.

The duplicate comes in pairs of say 6,6; 13,13; etc.  It does freeze.  And I did get locked out.  I registered with new usernames logged off, and tried to log back on with the same password but got denied. 

Just give me back access to my acct I registered and pm'd you about or allow me to register for a new acct to play.  I told you I  have an irrational fear of online generators, servers, etc.  I may have been just overreacting and my bad start didn't help assuage that fear.   I'm not afraid of being wrong, I'm afraid of being cheated.  But that's my problem, not yours, cause it's a server that generates the same one number at a time to everyone, regardless of bet placement.   

I may be paranoid (towards cyberspace) but I am not delusional.  I don't care about the bugs, whatever, it may be in my head, as long as it doesn't cheat me than I'm fine.

In a perfect world, we would've met up and exchanged concrete ideas already.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Moxy on Sep 18, 12:24 AM 2018
I was just frustrated and paranoid.  I never used your bugs as an excuse towards my play.  My play is fine, trust me on that.  It's just me e.g. mental hurdle. 

Please don't lump me in with Turbo, that did not feel good at all.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Sep 18, 12:36 AM 2018
I may be skeptical but have an open mind. I have not and will not make up my mind until youve had all the time you need. Dont take it personally, its not personal even remotely.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Madi on Sep 18, 04:23 AM 2018
Mpr real shit. Never can finish session properly. Always issue. Now automatic logout
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Sep 18, 04:42 AM 2018
Madi, auto logout only usually happens with periods of inactivity over 10 spins or greater. If you press ready it won't happen.

That said, sometimes a glitch will boot you from the game. Either way, just log back in or come back later to play.

Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Madi on Sep 18, 06:41 AM 2018
It didnt happen being inactive. It was due to glitch. And guess what? Next spin was a 50unit bet. Missed . Played almost 200spin . All goes to the bin.

Anyway that normal . It happen all the time. Moving on.......
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Sep 18, 07:15 AM 2018
It didnt happen being inactive. It was due to glitch. And guess what? Next spin was a 50unit bet. Missed . Played almost 200spin . All goes to the bin.

Anyway that normal . It happen all the time. Moving on.......
Thats why R-sim better. Set timer to 30 seconds,making same as. only use up ot 100 unit. Set BR to 5000.

Thats the game set to mpr settings and get no clitch no number come before you laid your bet within 30 seconds, if finished laying you can press spin; perfect Madi, perfect. Get no idiot saying Turbo is a wanker,etc:etc
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Sep 18, 07:16 AM 2018
So R-sim is rng, but are'nt R.org rng
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Sep 18, 07:20 AM 2018
Madi, one time I was on the very last bet of a progression with 8 numbers to bet x 100 units. Many, many spins to get to this point,.. hundreds.

With 7 of the 8 numbers placed the game spits out the next result early just as I'm placing the last number . Guess what? Yes, the 8th number shows and as you say, all to the bin.

Yes, all to the bin because not only do you lose what you already lost, but it is further compounded by the loss of 700 units that should have been a winner.

Anyway we must move on as you say.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Sep 18, 07:22 AM 2018
The major difference between r.sim and mpr is that on mpr we all play the same spins.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Sep 18, 07:27 AM 2018
The major difference between r.sim and mpr is that on mpr we all play the same spins.
R-sim thoroughbread

MPR handicapped

Where would you play, the place below? or the thoroughbred
Madi, one time I was on the very last bet of a progression with 8 numbers to bet x 100 units. Many, many spins to get to this point,.. hundreds.

With 7 of the 8 numbers placed the game spits out the next result early just as I'm placing the last number . Guess what? Yes, the 8th number shows and as you say, all to the bin.

Yes, all to the bin because not only do you lose what you already lost, but it is further compounded by the loss of 700 units that should have been a winner.

Anyway we must move on as you say.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on Sep 18, 08:04 AM 2018
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Thats why R-sim better. Set timer to 30 seconds,making same as. only use up ot 100 unit. Set BR to 5000.


how dare you say this notto....only Steves random is random .. :twisted:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on Sep 18, 08:07 AM 2018
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The major difference between r.sim and mpr is that on mpr we all play the same spins.

in BM casino if you are losing at the table and neighbour table player wins so this is not good :xd:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Sep 18, 08:25 PM 2018
I once played on MPR for 40 days and 40 nights straight.

My system was at the end of a month-long progression. I had lost lots, but I was one spin away from winning millions.

Then all of a sudden, there must have been a spike in porn downloads on the internet, because MPR lost server synchronization and my bet was rejected. But the number I wanted finally came!

It's not like the odds were 1 in 37 on that one spin. My system works because it knows the next number. There is NO way I could have just lost even more considering I was at the end of my progression. There is NO way the porn download spike could have saved me from going totally broke.

A month of hard work was ruined. If it weren't for that one spin, my win rate would be 1.5, I'd have $1m bankroll, and I'd be on the top of the leaderboard.

The same happened to you guys, right? It explains your low win rates.

Well I'm off to RS, where obviously it has no issues because there are so many big winners there.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Sep 18, 10:23 PM 2018
Point is not that it causes long term loss, but that it ruins the gaming experience enough for many player's to not bother coming back
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Madi on Sep 18, 11:18 PM 2018
Point is not that it causes long term loss, but that it ruins the gaming experience enough for many player's to not bother coming back

Player will understand this point, businessman wont.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Sep 19, 12:58 AM 2018
Still, I'd rather play mpr than r.sim because at least you can't cheat on mpr, whereas it's easy to cheat on r.sim so their rankings can't be trusted.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: luckyfella on Sep 19, 01:04 AM 2018
Still, I'd rather play mpr than r.sim because at least you can't cheat on mpr, whereas it's easy to cheat on r.sim so their rankings can't be trusted.
The key word here is cheat.

Everyone who do not play on mpr their  high score played elsewhere must be a cheat.

Thats's the illogical aspersion you and steve try to cast here. Got to be that low fool not to pick up this utter rubbish.

Repeat this long enough it becomes the truth. Nice strategy. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Sep 19, 01:10 AM 2018
Point is not that it causes long term loss, but that it ruins the gaming experience enough for many player's to not bother coming back

I get that. My point was the rare glitches are not the calamity some players claim they are, and it seems losing players use these rare issues as an excuse to avoid MPR. It looks to me like an excuse. I can understand if there were huge and frequent issues. But we're talking about rare issues that can easily be fixed by refreshing the page.

Player will understand this point, businessman wont.

Really I'm not dumb Madi.

All day i've had bots on MPR and screen recording everything that happens. It's about 6 hours of testing. So far ONCE the game froze for about 15 seconds, then I was removed from the "online players" area. But the game continued to run on my pc. From that point, the server thought I wasn't online, although it still accepted bets and paid winnings correctly.

The problem was because it considered me to be offline, the ready button didn't have any effect. I think this is related to the double spin thing. The programmer is looking at it.

So after about 6 hours of play, I've had one problem. To fix it I only needed to refresh the page.

So far the programmer thinks the player's pc stopped sending pings to the server for some reason, and the server gave up waiting. He's still looking into it.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Sep 19, 01:12 AM 2018
The key word here is cheat.

Everyone who do not play on mpr their  high score played elsewhere must be a cheat.

Thats's the illogical aspersion you and steve try to cast here. Got to be that low fool not to pick up this utter rubbish.

Repeat this long enough it becomes the truth. Nice strategy. :thumbsup:



Sorry luckyfella, it's the truth.

I'm ranking 4th place (GG) on r.sim and the only reason I'm not ranking 1st place is because I haven't played there for ages, and I got bored cheating....lol.

No, seriously, I cheated to reach 4th place to prove a point. It's easy.


Have a look at the amount of games I've played compared to the other top ranking players.



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Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Sep 19, 01:13 AM 2018
The key word here is cheat.

Everyone who do not play on mpr their  high score played elsewhere must be a cheat.

Thats's the illogical aspersion you and steve try to cast here. Got to be that low fool not to pick up this utter rubbish.

Repeat this long enough it becomes the truth. Nice strategy

Yeah.. lots of people in real casinos earn hundreds of thousands, even though they start with $3000.... just like RS. Seems realistic to me  :lol:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Sep 19, 01:18 AM 2018
Ok now in about 6 hours, the issue I explained happened twice. So far on average, once every 3 hours of play, I need to refresh the page (not a big inconvenience). I haven't found any other issues yet.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: luckyfella on Sep 19, 01:18 AM 2018


Sorry luckyfella, it's the truth.

I'm ranking 4th place (GG) on r.sim and the only reason I'm not ranking 1st place is because I haven't played there for ages, and I got bored cheating....lol.

No, seriously, I cheated to reach 4th place to prove a point. It's easy.
You cheated doesn't automatically mean that the entire world must necessarily cheat the same like you.

That's the aspersion you try to cast.

Sorry, that's easily not the truth.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Sep 19, 01:22 AM 2018
I realise not everyone will cheat, but the fact remains it is not only possible, but relatively easy to cheat on r.sim, and that fact throws the whole game into disrepute regardless of there being honest players.

It simply can't be trusted, and I've proved it, sorry.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: luckyfella on Sep 19, 01:26 AM 2018
I realise not everyone will cheat, but the fact remains it is not only possible, but relatively easy to cheat on r.sim, and that fact throws the whole game into disrepute regardless of there being honest players.

It simply can't be trusted, and I've proved it, sorry.
Everyone knows that rs can easily cheat. You have proven nothing new, wasted your time.

The point is still this aspersion that ALL high scores played elsewhere must be a cheat. Sorry, that's easily not the truth.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Sep 19, 01:27 AM 2018
Luckyfella:

1. RS has unrealistic table limits that can be exploited to win lots. Anyone can do it, and you might actually believe their claim they have the HG. So the leaderboard has no value or credibility. It also ranks players based on bankroll alone, which is not an indicator of a system's effectiveness because how do you know it wasnt from a relatively short run with high risky bets, followed by lots of smaller bets to increase the user's activity stars? In contrast, MPR has accurate and important statistics, and a ranking algorithm that gives a realistic and immutable record of a player's performance.

2. With RS, anyone can do a bankroll reset, wipe all their stats, and try again to rank high. You can't do that with MPR because they cant reset their stats. That's probably why many of the players with big mouths create multiple accounts instead, don't do much better, and eventually make an excuse to leave.

3. The spin source of RS is unknown. MPR doesn't use the server default RNG because it is notoriously flawed. Certainly online casinos wont use it either for the same reason. Instead, MPR uses either real database spins or spins from random.org. I haven't tested the randomness of RS spins, nor would I bother considering other points already make it an unrealistic simulator. But it wouldnt surprise me if the spins dont have a lot of integrity.


Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Sep 19, 01:31 AM 2018
In the end, nobody gives a crap where you want to play. If you want to test systems, roulette xtreme is overall the best option by far, because you can code systems and test large volumes of spins.

MPR is designed as a realistic simulator, but is more a social game, hence the chat and multiplayer capabilities.

Whenever I find an issue, it will be fixed. But again I have not found any critical issues that would cause a big inconvenience to players. I mean so far, refresh the page, once every 3 hours or so.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Madi on Sep 20, 05:29 AM 2018
Update for mpr. Reporting directly from rng. Someone name plolp , he can press the ready button and can run the mpr in every 2sec. Doensnt matter who can place bet or not. Mpr doesnt wait for other player.

Another evidence of rubbish
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Sep 20, 05:37 AM 2018
I just checked and it seems fine.

Then dont play there Madi. Your problem is solved.

You could use some manners too, considering you havent paid for the game. I have. And like an ungrateful child stomping feet, you complain about relatively minor issues that will be addressed in time.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Sep 20, 05:39 AM 2018
Update for mpr. Reporting directly from rng. Someone name plolp , he can press the ready button and can run the mpr in every 2sec. Doensnt matter who can place bet or not. Mpr doesnt wait for other player.

Another evidence of rubbish

Yes Madi happens, answer be, its your server or something along those lines. Don't happen on R-sim, funny that
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Sep 20, 06:10 AM 2018
You too Notto - another rude and ungrateful child. Don't play on MPR. You never do well there anyway. Your problem is solved.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: plolp on Sep 20, 06:16 AM 2018
Update for mpr. Reporting directly from rng. Someone name plolp , he can press the ready button and can run the mpr in every 2sec. Doensnt matter who can place bet or not. Mpr doesnt wait for other player.

Another evidence of rubbish

 Whatever !
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Madi on Sep 20, 06:20 AM 2018
I just checked and it seems fine.

Then dont play there Madi. Your problem is solved.

You could use some manners too, considering you havent paid for the game. I have. And like an ungrateful child stomping feet, you complain about relatively minor issues that will be addressed in time.

I am happy not to play. You just dont promote . It is not up to the casino standard not even half.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Sep 20, 07:48 AM 2018
Madi, grow the f*** up please.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Sep 20, 08:57 AM 2018
Madi as i'm on watch last reply removed, not to worry, we know its
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Sep 23, 06:22 PM 2018
Notto if anyones posts are clearly to start trouble, with no other intention, ill remove them.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Sep 23, 07:20 PM 2018
But you let who ever the MODS player name is make trouble, 1 rule for 1 and 1 rule for the others, nice
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Sep 23, 07:22 PM 2018
You seen how Taotie is on GF, not a very nice person, but you have him as the MPR mod, oh dear, oh dear
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Sep 23, 07:58 PM 2018
Notto, pls dont be like ken. He created trouble then whinged about it acting innocent. If anyone instigates trouble and i become aware of it, i wont look back at history of who said what. Ill just moderate whatever i see. Its nothing personal, it doesnt matter who it is.

If taotie is instigating its the same for him. Often i see two way digs, and i let it go unless it disrupts the forum too much. Often a few digs can be healthy because it helps progress. Except when it gets personal. Understand im just trying to keep the forum in the right direction, and avoid it becoming a battleground.

Taotie being mpr mod is just for pests. It isnt post moderation.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Sep 23, 08:00 PM 2018
And i don't know exactly what you're referring to but how anyone is at gf has nothing to do with here.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Sep 23, 09:47 PM 2018
I have no idea what notto's going on about or what his problem is.   ???

Interestingly i've only had to boot 1 player since starting moderation and that was at the request of the account owner.

Like Steve said, I'm only there to remove pests, and that will probably only happen when people report a problem here.

Or I might stumble upon 1 or 2 while playing mpr myself.


Hey 1d, if you see this, would you like to try your johnoholic account again to see if the problem has rectified?
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Johnoholic on Sep 24, 11:28 AM 2018
Ya of course I would like to try, inform me once you have released my account.
Thanks Taotie Bombus  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Sep 24, 06:22 PM 2018
Done. let me know if you can't log off again, thanks.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Johnoholic on Sep 24, 08:24 PM 2018
I’m able to login my Johnoholic account but now my 1d account stuck :question:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Sep 24, 08:28 PM 2018
It could have something to do with the anti-cheating feature, which prevents duplicate logins. But it still should not be doing that. Best to stick to one account.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Sep 24, 09:20 PM 2018
It's probably a browser issue with your device. Sometimes with smartphones you think you've closed a tab but it is still running in the background.
You should close all tabs, reboot your phone then go to the http://www.rouletteplayers.org/login page rather than straight to the game page.

It could be that having two accounts open at the same time on the one device is somehow tricking the server into thinking both are active even though only one is active, hence the other one is not being auto-booted?

There are lots of video  on youtube for closing browser tutorials.

Here's a simple one for androids.

Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Sep 24, 09:28 PM 2018
Steve, I temporarily banned 1d, 10-15 minutes ago but he is still logged in?

What if we ban them both 1d/johnoholic then bring one back?
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Sep 24, 11:13 PM 2018
1d still stuck.
I've unbanned all. Steve you can deal with this one.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Sep 25, 07:24 AM 2018
Taotie still 1d
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Sep 25, 07:28 AM 2018
Ive asked the programmer to check
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Sep 25, 07:45 AM 2018
who the R-sim programmer
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Sep 25, 07:24 PM 2018
Steve any reason why it didn't  work when I removed 1d?

Is there a glitch I should know about?
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Sep 25, 07:33 PM 2018
Steve any reason why it didn't  work

Yes the programmer is shit
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Sep 25, 08:01 PM 2018
fuckoff notto..
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Sep 25, 08:01 PM 2018
Yes the programmer is shit

Like your brain notto. Another logged on user didnt make you lose. Stop blaming mpr for your losses. You're sounding like turbo and others who lose on mpr too.

Taotie by the time he looked into it it was fine. We'll keep an eye on it.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Sep 25, 08:08 PM 2018
Just to let you know when been on no pests are there, seems quiet deserted, perhaps because of the glitch's,
See when you are on by self theres no one to press ready so it dont fcuk up.
You should still hirer the R-sim programmer, if you want it to be right, or you carry on hiring inept programmers, or perhaps you are the programmer.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Sep 25, 08:53 PM 2018
Notto stop embarrassing yourself. The stats show how "deserted" it is even after recent reset. It has had almost no promotion because its focus is rfcc members. Wonder how it will be if i promote it  :xd: its a free game for fun,  but realistic enough for you to understand your system isnt good. Grow up. Its not my fault.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Normy2000 on Oct 07, 11:00 AM 2018
 :question:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: plolp on Oct 07, 12:27 PM 2018

Me too, I wait silently (but impatiently of course) your return and also that of Maestro.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: ignatus on Oct 09, 09:28 AM 2018
Can someone pls kick this "test123"-guy? He's refusing to check ready and playin his 30second game.   :yawn:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: ignatus on Oct 11, 04:32 PM 2018
I will make a picture and hang these on the wall at home.. ;D  :love:

I know EasyGoing will fight for the no.1 spot, good! Challenge accepted!  :thumbsup:

Remember me  8) Now, i got the to top by a new system, (that i can't reveal just yet!).... we'll see!

cheers
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: precogmiles on Oct 11, 04:44 PM 2018
I will make a picture and hang these on the wall at home.. ;D  :love:

I know EasyGoing will fight for the no.1 spot, good! Challenge accepted!  :thumbsup:

Remember me  8) Now, i got the to top by a new system, (that i can't reveal just yet!).... we'll see!

cheers

Well done!!

You combined a system with AP ( intuition )
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Normy2000 on Oct 11, 06:20 PM 2018
Well done Ignatus    :thumbsup: 
Will fight tomorrow...>:D >:D >:D
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Mako on Oct 11, 06:34 PM 2018
Hahah good job Iggy! Awesome... :twisted: :love:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: ignatus on Oct 11, 06:38 PM 2018
Thanks ;) now, that was alot of work OK with my new system i won 20 000$ in less than 2h,..so i've been thinking if i should share it or not? (it's almost too good to be true, or just me being lucky? idk)

First test (25u bets, randomspins) example
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Mako on Oct 11, 06:42 PM 2018
Thanks ;) now, that was alot of work OK with my new system i won 20 000$ in less than 2h,..so i've been thinking if i should share it or not? (it's almost too good to be true, or just me being lucky? idk)

First test (25u bets, randomspins) example

Keep testing it.  Once you think it's a winner, send it to me and I will break it.

I have the opposite-of-Midas touch, nothing can survive my testing!  :xd:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: ignatus on Oct 11, 06:47 PM 2018
Keep testing it.  Once you think it's a winner, send it to me and I will break it.

I have the opposite-of-Midas touch, nothing can survive my testing!  :xd:

Well, mako, you've always been a good friend, and helped me test before etc, so i send it to you by mail now, then we'll see! =)

cheers
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Mako on Oct 11, 06:53 PM 2018
Well, mako, you've always been a good friend, and helped me test before etc, so i send it to you by mail now, then we'll see! =)

cheers

Thanks Iggy, love your effort and never-give-up attitude.  At the end of the day this is a GAME, and games are supposed to be FUN...   8)

I'll put it through sequential spins from spielbank duisburg, table runs as if you had walked into the casino when they opened and left that table when the place closed down. 
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Oct 12, 03:56 AM 2018
I will make a picture and hang these on the wall at home.. ;D  :love:

cheers

You're going great guns there ignatus, well done.

I don't think I will ever catch up to you because my bombus account is severely disadvantaged by Steve's leaderboard algorithm. I will need you to fall back down to meet me.

You see once you reach table limits and 10 million dollars in bets it becomes mathematically impossible to shift the win rate more than a few thousandths of a percent no matter how much you win.

What's worse for me is that I started the game playing at table limits so from day 1 could only flat bet. net result for me is that I must win about 1.3 million units in order to equal your win rate, and at the tiny table limits it will take me years.

Anyway you can stand on the pedestal, but just remember, bankroll is king!   :thumbsup:

Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Joe on Oct 12, 04:15 AM 2018
Thanks ;) now, that was alot of work OK with my new system i won 20 000$ in less than 2h,..so i've been thinking if i should share it or not? (it's almost too good to be true, or just me being lucky? idk)

Well if anyone deserves to find a winning system, it's you. If you want it coded, drop me a line (no charge).   :thumbsup:

By the way, how are the ratings worked out for MPR?
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Oct 12, 06:57 AM 2018
Taotie, can you suggest a better algorithm?

The win rate is king. Not amount bet, and not bet size. If you have a bad win rate. You wont out rank a player with a good win rate UNLESS they've barely played any spins.

For a good rank, you need to have played enough,but still win rate matters most.

If we rank on amount won alone, new accounts will exist few but lucky lare wins.

If we rank on amount of spins, anyone can play 1 unit per spin and rank high.

So the rank is based on winnings, spins played and win rate. The combination of variables makes it fair for everyone.

But an effect of this approach is only the top 5-10 members should be considered accurate rankings. Anything lower wont be accurately ranked.

If anyone has a better algorithm, let me know.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Roulettebeater on Oct 12, 08:36 AM 2018
 Ignatus

Congrats for the HG, I hope it holds long with you, anyway for now enjoy the system and have a Cookie.

Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Kairomancer on Oct 12, 08:42 AM 2018
Thanks ;) now, that was alot of work OK with my new system i won 20 000$ in less than 2h,..so i've been thinking if i should share it or not? (it's almost too good to be true, or just me being lucky? idk)

First test (25u bets, randomspins) example
Just keep your positive expectation about your system and enjoy your winnings.

Stop testing and expecting that it eventually fail, because when you do that you will make it fail just to prove you are right.
That's how it works.

Also feel free to share it. I love your material you  put on forex as well.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Normy2000 on Oct 12, 10:43 AM 2018
I know EasyGoing will fight for the no.1 spot, good! Challenge accepted! 
I did,   :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: precogmiles on Oct 12, 11:06 AM 2018
I did,   :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

Good Job Normy, what method are you using?
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Normy2000 on Oct 12, 11:13 AM 2018
I already told you: less whiskey, more intuition  :xd:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: precogmiles on Oct 12, 11:20 AM 2018
I already told you: less whiskey, more intuition  :xd:


 :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:   :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: precogmiles on Oct 12, 11:21 AM 2018
I already told you: less whiskey, more intuition  :xd:


 :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Oh yes, I thought you might have changed it slightly. But it seems to be working wonderful for you. Great work!
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: ignatus on Oct 12, 12:43 PM 2018
I did,   :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

congrats to the no.1....now i suffered a major loss,.. no worries, it's just a game ;) anyway i struggled for weeks to get to the no.1 spot haha...now? ye.. i have to reconsider my game ;)

cheers
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Mako on Oct 12, 01:13 PM 2018
congrats to the no.1....now i suffered a major loss,.. no worries, it's just a game ;) anyway i struggled for weeks to get to the no.1 spot haha...now? ye.. i have to reconsider my game ;)

cheers

No matter what, at least you hit the top spot Iggy!  :xd: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Oct 12, 05:20 PM 2018
Taotie, can you suggest a better algorithm?

Probs not. I think you've set it up about as good as you can. The only problem is the amount bet/table limit ratios.

A player with an amount bet in the 10s of thousands betting the max 100 units shifts their win rate on the 1st decimal point, whereas a player with an amount bet in the 10s of millions betting the same max 100 units shifts their win rate on the 4th or 5th decimal point. Both players bet the same amount (100 units) and won the same amount (3600 units) but the millionaire player's rate barely shifts. Sure it shifts less downward as well, but the idea is to win.

Maybe you could add an auto table limit upgrade for when players reach certain milestones?..I don't know., but that's what happens in the casino. The more you got the bigger the table limits.  For instance, upstairs at Star City we have a $100 minimum table.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Mako on Oct 15, 05:07 PM 2018
Someone ate their magic psychic beans for breakfast today....wow Miles... :love:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: ignatus on Oct 15, 06:19 PM 2018
I have found what im looking for,  >:D now, finally /no kiddin/ also i strongly doubt i will share it? That's to some people, with bad attitute, and using me as a "bad example" on the other forum,...now time will tell.. we'll see...
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on Oct 15, 06:51 PM 2018
Quote
I have found what im looking for


no you did not...simple test on rng real cash will prove it...good luck
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: precogmiles on Oct 15, 06:57 PM 2018
Someone ate their magic psychic beans for breakfast today....wow Miles... :love:


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Title: Re: MPR
Post by: precogmiles on Oct 15, 07:00 PM 2018
I have found what im looking for,  >:D now, finally /no kiddin/ also i strongly doubt i will share it? That's to some people, with bad attitute, and using me as a "bad example" on the other forum,...now time will tell.. we'll see...

Great winrate!! This is what I like to see less focus on leaderboard position and actually focusing on a positive winrate with improved accuracy.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: ignatus on Oct 15, 07:17 PM 2018

no you did not...simple test on rng real cash will prove it...good luck

Hey! what the matter!?! ;D you wait and see....  >:D im not kidding maestro, this is something else. no matter what i say can convice you, you never believed in me maestro, too bad ...
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Oct 15, 07:30 PM 2018
Ignatus, some of your accounts would rank higher if larger bets were made, which also means larger winnings.

some people, with bad attitute, and using me as a "bad example" on the other forum

I assume you mean gf. All they do complain about other members on other forums. Doesn't that tell you something? Yes members here and elsewhere make mistakes, and so do the people acting high and mighty like they don't make mistakes too. I could tear a new ass in their theories (not that they'd acknowledge clear logic), but understand those people troll from other forums because of personal insecurities. Nobody happy with themselves spends so much time attacking others, and nobody successful needs to try bringing others down. They reflect the admin there.

Great winrate!! This is what I like to see less focus on leaderboard position and actually focusing on a positive winrate with improved accuracy.

It's good but it's still very short-term. 529 spins is nothing. If anyone wanted to prove a system on mpr, the best way would be to use a bot (which uses ready button). Testing even just 1,000 spins manually would take a long time.

no matter what i say can convice you, you never believed in me maestro, too bad ...

Why would maestro criticize you when you've done much better than him on mpr?

Why would clowns at other forums criticize others when they arent winning themselves?
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Oct 15, 07:37 PM 2018
This is what I like to see less focus on leaderboard position and actually focusing on a positive winrate with improved accuracy.

The ranking is based around win rate. Win rate is still king, but with the catch that you need to back it up with amount of spins and winnings.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: ignatus on Oct 15, 08:02 PM 2018
Thanks for your support steve <3 now, i'll see, when /if i reach top 3, maybe i post this one too...although, it may be the best so far,..:)

The keys are already there/ it's very simple to "construct your own grail/winning system"..what i know; so far:

(1) Take a decent betelection that wins flatbet (most of the time/sometime)
(2) This betelection Must be a so called "clustered bet" 2 (or more) bets covering/crossing eachother etc
(3) Use a mild cyclic negative progression (+1u OR Doubleup after 1 cycle is lost),(1 cycle calculated how many numbers coverd, not how many numbers bet) Until you reach a new high,..then reset

That's my simple recipe how to construct a "winning system"  O0
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Mako on Oct 15, 11:44 PM 2018
Thanks for your support steve <3 now, i'll see, when /if i reach top 3, maybe i post this one too...although, it may be the best so far,..:)

The keys are already there/ it's very simple to "construct your own grail/winning system"..what i know; so far:

(1) Take a decent betelection that wins flatbet (most of the time/sometime)
(2) This betelection Must be a so called "clustered bet" 2 (or more) bets covering/crossing eachother etc
(3) Use a mild cyclic negative progression (+1u OR Doubleup after 1 cycle is lost),(1 cycle calculated how many numbers coverd, not how many numbers bet) Until you reach a new high,..then reset

That's my simple recipe how to construct a "winning system"  O0

Major4 = Major winrate! :xd:  :love:

Great job again Ignatus, and I agree with Steve, to hell with the haters. I enjoy your systems greatly, in fact whenever I’m bored I go through your older ones for fun...and there are some great ones no one recognized as being superior.

Keep up the good work!  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on Oct 16, 04:45 PM 2018
Quote
Why would maestro criticize you when you've done much better than him on mpr?

i did not just plain and simple truth...oh and mpr no he did not...and never will neither you :thumbsup:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Oct 16, 09:23 PM 2018
Maestro your win rate was 0.92, which is worse than random (0.97). It wouldn't be hard to beat.

Anyway I'm in the process of reinstating the accidentally deleted accounts. Its not a simple process though.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: ignatus on Oct 18, 12:14 PM 2018
Oops, i did it again!  8)

Goldking-system, oh my oh my.... what can i say?  :love:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Mako on Oct 18, 12:39 PM 2018
Ignatus in 3 of the top 5 spots on MPR....crushing it buddy! 8) 8) 8) 8)

Title: Re: MPR
Post by: maestro on Oct 18, 03:55 PM 2018
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Ignatus in 3 of the top 5 spots on MPR....crushing it buddy!


first person to have few HG and not able to earn a penny of game play...well done :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: ignatus on Oct 18, 04:12 PM 2018

first person to have few HG and not able to earn a penny of game play...well done :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

ye? funny, better lose for fun/virtual money practice..than for real  8) if you had a winning system, you be on the top on the MPR, Goodluck now!  O0
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Normy2000 on Oct 18, 06:14 PM 2018
Oops, i did it again!   
Very well done my friend!  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
p.s.: I love your steady hard work!  :love:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: ignatus on Oct 19, 01:37 AM 2018
Very well done my friend!  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
p.s.: I love your steady hard work!  :love:

Thanks normy<3
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: ignatus on Oct 19, 01:52 AM 2018
Now, about the "Goldking-system" i cannot tellyou, no? it's too good to be true? but it true.

What I CAN tell you is what i've already told you; (This should be already more than enough)..

The keys are already there/ it's very simple to "construct your own grail/winning system"..what i know; so far:

(1) Take a decent betelection that wins flatbet (most of the time/sometime) This does not always have to be true, but it's a good point.
(2) This betelection Must be a so called "clustered bet" 2 (or more) bets covering/crossing eachother etc
(3) Use a mild cyclic POSITIVE progression (+1u OR Doubleup after each HIT) Until you reach a new high,..then reset
*(4) With a so called "clustered bet" focus on the "inner numbers" within that cluster, (and calculate the cyclic positive progression from those particular numbers bet)

About a "positive progression" This is the best, BECAUSE as you will notice, numbers ALWAYS hit in clusters, this is the law, and it will *always* happen like that,..

That's my simple recipe how to construct a "winning system"  O0

I've already told you too much,:S but this is the truth...

Now, goodluck everyone, happy winnings  8)
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: precogmiles on Oct 19, 02:55 AM 2018
Now, about the "Goldking-system" i cannot tellyou, no? it's too good to be true? but it true.

What I CAN tell you is what i've already told you; (This should be already more than enough)..

The keys are already there/ it's very simple to "construct your own grail/winning system"..what i know; so far:

(1) Take a decent betelection that wins flatbet (most of the time/sometime) This does not always have to be true, but it's a good point.
(2) This betelection Must be a so called "clustered bet" 2 (or more) bets covering/crossing eachother etc
(3) Use a mild cyclic POSITIVE progression (+1u OR Doubleup after each HIT) Until you reach a new high,..then reset
*(4) With a so called "clustered bet" focus on the "inner numbers" within that cluster, (and calculate the cyclic positive progression from those particular numbers bet)

About a "positive progression" This is the best, BECAUSE as you will notice, numbers ALWAYS hit in clusters, this is the law, and it will *always* happen like that,..

That's my simple recipe how to construct a "winning system"  O0

I've already told you too much,:S but this is the truth...

Now, goodluck everyone, happy winnings  8)

 :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: congratulations great work!

Do you change your bet selection at all? if so how often?
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: ignatus on Oct 19, 03:21 AM 2018
     congratulations great work!

Do you change your bet selection at all? if so how often?

Thanks :) I can't tell anything about the "Goldking-system", but you got the keys already now.

cheers
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Oct 19, 05:35 PM 2018
So you hang around the forums for years posting endless systems, all the way through asking members for advice on this and that, asking members for help testing and tweaking and coding, etc, for literally hundreds of systems.

Then the moment you think you've found a profitable system, it's oh no, I can't share with you. I won't tell you my secret winning system..


laughoutfuckingloud!
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: ignatus on Oct 19, 06:41 PM 2018
So you hang around the forums for years posting endless systems, all the way through asking members for advice on this and that, asking members for help testing and tweaking and coding, etc, for literally hundreds of systems.

Then the moment you think you've found a profitable system, it's oh no, I can't share with you. I won't tell you my secret winning system..


laughoutfuckingloud!

yes? I already gave my best i have, That is "Matrix 9",..well? what can i say? "Goldking system" was nice, but? not a "grail" obviously, as you can see on my winrate, although , i lost about 15-20k or so,(i play the "crazy oscars grind" but i recoverd, and still in profit now, about +80k? But this took a serious blow on my so called "winrate"...what do you expect, really Taote?
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: luckyfella on Oct 19, 08:24 PM 2018
So you hang around the forums for years posting endless systems, all the way through asking members for advice on this and that, asking members for help testing and tweaking and coding, etc, for literally hundreds of systems.

Then the moment you think you've found a profitable system, it's oh no, I can't share with you. I won't tell you my secret winning system..


laughoutfuckingloud!
Won't be surprise ig joins proof to sell his secret winning system
Sure winner selling pickaxe and shovel
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Oct 19, 09:28 PM 2018
...what do you expect, really Taote?

I expect it will lose and or you will give up on it.

That was not my point. My point was you "thought" you finally found a winner, then basically told everybody to go and get stuffed.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: -Katalyst- on Oct 19, 10:51 PM 2018
@Iggy - I see what Taotie is alluding to
**though - don’t miss the moment -  that you have/had something - work at it a bit more rather than hot footing onto the next
- once you work out how to make it a profitable business - you will enjoy it even more

*everything is recycled! new ideas/old ideas —it’s  always been there, just the ways we are looking at it has changed —when you post ideas and seek feedback/help it's enterprising both ways
*when you have something, theres no obligation to prove it on MPR or post it on here for all to see - who you decide to share with, is yours - the choice is and always will be yours

BTW - there are many on here that enjoy your contributions  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: -Katalyst- on Oct 19, 10:59 PM 2018
“pickaxe & shovel”  ....right tools?
 - none the less they are good tools!  ;)
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: ignatus on Oct 20, 03:18 AM 2018
I expect it will lose and or you will give up on it.

we'll see about that Taotie, now im +100k , .....
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Oct 22, 04:18 PM 2018
(https://www.rouletteforum.cc/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pichost.org%2Fimages%2F2018%2F10%2F22%2Fsource.png&hash=cf36f54edc908c0457cd9d5eb3c22318) (http://www.pichost.org/image/TELIp)

Win rate dropping
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Normy2000 on Nov 11, 10:12 AM 2018
What append with MPR  :question:
All i see is a green page...
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Nov 11, 03:42 PM 2018
The host updated the server, and now the software needs updating. Its a few lines of code but i need and now have programmer for it. It should be fixed by tomorrow.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Normy2000 on Nov 11, 04:03 PM 2018
Thanks for quick answer!  8)
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Nov 12, 05:40 PM 2018
MPR is fixed now
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Nov 15, 04:06 PM 2018
Steve
MPR still use crap numbers from Random.org, there about as good as R-sim.

I'm going over the Generals starburst numbers with 1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,3;  350 spins +163
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: ignatus on Nov 15, 04:38 PM 2018
MPR still use crap numbers from Random.org, there about as good as R-sim.

Just played "HotTrack" on the MPR, works fine +3000$ now, (but i play only every spins 1-6, then Reset...) so, np :)
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Nov 15, 05:54 PM 2018
MPR still use crap numbers from Random.org, there about as good as R-sim.

Are you winning lots then? +163 isnt much.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Nov 15, 05:57 PM 2018
still 10'000 spins to go.
But is MPR using Random.org
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: The General on Nov 17, 02:00 AM 2018
I still don't see anything resembling a statistically relevant win.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Madi on Nov 19, 04:25 AM 2018
How someone manage to run spin in every second while others r still placing bet?
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Nov 19, 04:40 PM 2018
Exactly what do you mean?  Be specific
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Nov 19, 05:16 PM 2018
Madi, it happens occasionally that the next number comes before you press ready, but if it's happening spin after spin it means you have been bumped off the game and someone else is left logged on and is pressing ready.

When you notice this happening you must refresh your browser to log back in. Then you will have control of the ready button again.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Madi on Nov 19, 05:17 PM 2018
Any people can run the spin in every 2 second by using ready button while others may not finished placing bet.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Madi on Nov 19, 05:21 PM 2018
Taotie

I did this . Log out . Log in again. I can see my name in online user. While other can just keep pressing ready and its just running blindly.

Better option would be fix for 30 sec like the casino.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Nov 19, 07:23 PM 2018
Better option would be fix for 30 sec like the casino.
Sense at last
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Nov 20, 12:28 AM 2018
Better option would be fix for 30 sec like the casino.

Do this and the game is ruined.

If you really need the full 30 secs to place your bets then just don't click ready.

If you need 30 secs and when you start you see other players already logged on and clicking ready, then do the right thing and just f*ck off and come back later. Or do the courteous thing and ask if they mind you slowing the game down.

Why can't you guys get your head around it? It's so easy..
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Madi on Nov 20, 03:05 AM 2018
These click ready button and run the spins in 2s again and again are purposefully done so that other people just cant play and go away. I understand this fully . And purpose of the ready button is misused widely
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Madi on Nov 20, 03:07 AM 2018


If you really need the full 30 secs to place your bets then just don't click ready.

.
I dont need 30 sec. the suggestion is so that one can not disturb other purposefully. Thats the issue.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Nov 20, 03:13 AM 2018
Madi the time between spins is only shorter if all logged on players click ready for the next spin.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Madi on Nov 20, 03:14 AM 2018


do the courteous thing and ask if they mind you slowing the game down.



You states clearly that it happen and i should ask to other. And i understand till now is ready button should not work if any player still laying the bet
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Madi on Nov 20, 03:16 AM 2018
Madi the time between spins is only shorter if all logged on players click ready for the next spin.

I know . What if i cant finish bet in 5 sec and others r clicking ready and its spinning
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Madi on Nov 20, 03:21 AM 2018


If you need 30 secs and when you start you see other players already logged on and clicking ready, then do the right thing and just f*ck off and come back later. Or do the courteous thing and ask if they mind you slowing the game down.



Steve ,

Can you plz give this ill mannered person a heads up that he is a mod and should behave accordingly. Thanks
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Nov 20, 03:37 AM 2018
Steve ,

Can you plz give this ill mannered person a heads up that he is a mod and should behave accordingly. Thanks

Ok.

Taotie, a new rule. If ye shall be a mpr mod, ye shall bow down to all and kisseth all asseths.

Madi, taotie being an mpr mod is not like a forum mod. All he does is boot players as needed. He just needs to use it wisely. His behavior otherwise is irrelevant.

Madi and notto, it appears you guys arent clear on how the ready button works.

Unless ALL players click it,  the time isnt shortened.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: plolp on Nov 20, 03:50 AM 2018
Madi the time between spins is only shorter if all logged on players click ready for the next spin.

Yes, it's true .
but it sometimes happens that a number comes out very quickly when no one has pressed the "ready" button.
yesterday it happened 2 or 3 times and Madi was present.
Personally it does not bother me because I put in 3 seconds maximum, and bears no interest in the history of the spins.

But I still say that it rarely happens.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Nov 20, 04:18 AM 2018
then do the right thing and just f*ck off and come back later.
Listen Troll even when i'm laying units the number comes; so if i'm laying units i've not pressed ready.

Oh i don't know how ready works f*** off you pair off c****, banned so f****** what MPR useless piece of shit like R-sim really ; better to get live numbers from real spins section

As i've said Stevie boy i got what i need from VLS and here ofc so ban if you like
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Nov 20, 04:28 AM 2018
Yes sometimes the numbers come early, we know, it happens to all of us.

What a douche bag you turned out to be.  :twisted:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Nov 20, 04:44 AM 2018
asseths

asseths?   lol
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Nov 20, 07:36 AM 2018
f*** off you pair off c****, banned so f****** what MPR useless piece of shit like R-sim really ; better to get live numbers from real spins section

You don't need to be an asseth about it. We were using real spins database, but most people wanted rng. Mpr is just an interface and spin database. The odds, the payouts and whatever your results aren't my doing. If you dont like it, you don't need to play it.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Nov 20, 01:45 PM 2018
Usual from you. But; MPR ready don't work properly unlike R-sim never any problems. Anyway the troll can carry on
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: The General on Nov 20, 02:04 PM 2018
Notto,

Why don't you try just playing in free mode online at Dublinbet or Fairway?


Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Nov 20, 02:06 PM 2018
Then why not play on rsim and stop complaining?
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Nov 20, 02:07 PM 2018
Notto,

Why don't you try just playing in free mode online at Dublinbet or Fairway?

His system doesn't work there. It has to be rigged. Or it could be a bug.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Madi on Nov 20, 02:17 PM 2018
Notto,

Why don't you try just playing in free mode online at Dublinbet or Fairway?

You always forget to mention that in RNG there are some other mode as well, Which keeps u out of the bay and force u to look for broken wheel.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: The General on Nov 20, 02:22 PM 2018
You always forget to mention that in RNG there are some other mode as well, Which keeps u out of the bay and force u to look for broken wheel.

Yes, I'm always looking for a broken wheel too.  But you forget, I play both broken and unbroken wheels.  However I can't beat an RNG.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Madi on Nov 20, 02:31 PM 2018
  However I can't beat an RNG.

You must know that why you cant. So dont push other to prove their system in rng.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: sugtips on Nov 23, 07:15 PM 2018
Hi Sir Steve.

Sir am unable to login my account SugTips. I have created another account SugTips_M2, its auto login on the mobile where I have created account but on other phone even its not login, says invalid login. I can confirm theres no mistake in password, because this can be repeated/tested by making new accounts.

Please guide.

Thanks
SugTips
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Nov 24, 02:02 AM 2018
Bombus probably banned you.  :twisted:
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Dec 01, 03:45 PM 2018
Maestro
Just been on MPR; pressed ready and yes spat out two numbers and before even got a unit on another came , did make me laugh.

General still heading north
(https://www.rouletteforum.cc/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pichost.org%2Fimages%2F2018%2F12%2F01%2Fsource.png&hash=26cf4034b9f2bf3971df653d525bed5a) (http://www.pichost.org/image/FVo2F)
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Dec 01, 03:48 PM 2018
That explains why you're losing
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: nottophammer on Dec 01, 03:55 PM 2018
who's losing still heading north on your piece of shite, even R-sim is the same RNG #'s easy.
Random.org waste of time, now the rng on fobt is a different kettle of fish.

Oh forgot you can only play a real wheel
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Dec 01, 04:41 PM 2018
One account only?

Both trng and real wheels are shite, or your system?
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Dec 01, 10:14 PM 2018
Hello players.
Just a note to say I have just banned "grandpa1218".

This user has been on MPR hogging the game all morning and only played 4 spins. He also was unresponsive to communication  requests.

If grandpa1218 is a human player then please contact Steve to be reinstated.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Dec 01, 10:34 PM 2018
Could you bot players please be considerate of other users, and add a "click ready" function to your bot codes?

Thank you.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Dec 26, 05:22 AM 2018
Player 'Peter' banned as a suspected bot. If you are not a bot then contact Steve to be reinstated.

If you are reinstated then next time respond to chat. Oh, and use ready if you can or tell us if you can't.

Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Jan 13, 10:50 PM 2019
Steve, the player Remmus is on MPR all day and not playing. I believe the account is stuck.

I banned the player but the system did not boot him from the game. Could you please fix the problem as players are not able to use the game properly while this guy is stuck. Thanks.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Jan 14, 02:43 AM 2019
The cause may be he has a duplicate account in lower case. Ill get the programmer to look soon. Thanks.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on May 10, 06:22 AM 2019
Hey Steve, I tried to ban the friggin' loser bot,  sparthens1... didn't seem to work??
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on May 10, 07:59 AM 2019
I'm not at my pc so can't login to check, sorry
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on May 10, 05:04 PM 2019
OK,

 sparthens1 is stuck on the  game.

There are two sparthens1 registered players. There is also a  sparthens2 registered.

I've banned them all to see if that got him off but it didn't.

Can you check at your convenience, thanks.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Jun 08, 02:58 AM 2019
LALA, inactive & stuck on the game all weekend pissing everyone off.

I have banned LALA. There is also a LALA69, so I banned that one too, but nothing happened....again. LALA is still there, and inactive.

Steve, whenever I ban a user for f*cking up the game, which is not often, nothing ever happens. They are never removed from the game. It seems they time it for weekends, then everyone must wait for you to come home from weekend detention (that's been going on a bit long, hasn't it?) before they are then removed by you.

If there is a moderator glitch, would it be possible to fix it so that banned users actually get banned in real time?

If it is a precautionary measure to ensure I don't go bonkers and ban members indiscriminately, then that's fine, just remove my moderator status because as it is it does nothing anyway.

Cheers.



Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Jun 11, 09:49 PM 2019
I tested the ban feature again, and found no problem. It doesnt mean there isnt a problem though.

Open one browser with your main username, and another browser completely with a username you create to ban (you can use chrome, and chrome incognito as your separate browsers). It works fine like that. You'll see it's real-time.

I think the issue is something like server cache after an update, which isn't easy to diagnose. The player may be banned, but the server still thinks they are logged off. Next time it happens, hopefully I'm not away with weekend detention (only the WORST people get that), and I can check quickly.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Ross on Jun 12, 03:31 PM 2019
I think it would be a good idea to have a clear-out of
the members list.  A lot of those listed have made no
posts and haven't even visited the site since registering

Just going by the user names a lot of them appear to
be auto-generated.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Firefox on Jun 13, 05:00 AM 2019
Many people have multiple accounts.

Either trying out different systems, or trying out the same system but trying to get an account with a great result to "prove" how good their system is, while abandoning losing accounts.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Raf on Oct 17, 06:14 PM 2019
@ Steve
congratulations for MPR !!

I'm new to the forum, but I'm a roulette player with advantage and play pre-launch.

I read the formula of the ranking algorithm and it seems well done. I only suggest adding the bankroll in the algorithm which can only be> = 0

 Raf
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Oct 19, 06:07 AM 2019
Thanks i considered that but omitted it because then multiple account resets followed by 1 lucky win would give an unfair ranking advantage.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Raf on Oct 22, 07:07 PM 2019
Steve thank you for the reply, but I don't understand why the "resets" provide an advantage in the ranking.
The purpose of the real game is to increase the final bankroll, for example I currently have a bk of 91.790, a winrate = 1,01 a net balance (amount bet and amount won) of +22.079 in 2.226 spins, why does the bankroll grow faster than the net balance?
I did not do 14 reset (14 * 5000 = 70000) which could justify the difference with the net balance.

Raf
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Oct 22, 09:20 PM 2019
Resets are like an unlimited ATM. This can be used as an advantage over other players in the short term. As i mentioned: multiple account resets followed by 1 lucky win would give an unfair ranking advantage.

But the ranking algorithm considers the lifetime wins/losses, so in the long-term it wont matter.

Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Raf on Oct 24, 01:40 AM 2019
ok, thanks steve of the reply.

I would like to point out to some users that I don't always chat because I often play games with ipads and the view is not optimal (you can't see the chat)

Following the chat yesterday and I advise everyone not to play compulsively, so 30 s are also few if you consider the game not casual, but a game of skill.

Raf

[23:41][System]: Welcome to the table, Raf!
[00:35][maestro]: ready
[00:37][bombus]: Raf, why don't you use ready to speed things up? Surely you don't need the whoile 3o seconds every time?
[00:38][bombus]: if you're running a bot I can boot you off the game so please answer
[00:40][bombus]: ok, I get it, you're an arsehole.
[00:45][Raf]: I need time to bet
[00:48][Raf]: Bombus, 30 seconds are also few, I play like I'm in a real casino
[00:50][Raf]: I also play ipad, and I don't see chat
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Steve on Oct 24, 01:49 AM 2019
It's a social multiplayer game, so it relies on players to use the ready button.
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Oct 24, 05:13 PM 2019
[23:41][System]: Welcome to the table, Raf!
[00:35][maestro]: ready
[00:37][bombus]: Raf, why don't you use ready to speed things up? Surely you don't need the whoile 3o seconds every time?
[00:38][bombus]: if you're running a bot I can boot you off the game so please answer
[00:40][bombus]: ok, I get it, you're an arsehole.
[00:45][Raf]: I need time to bet
[00:48][Raf]: Bombus, 30 seconds are also few, I play like I'm in a real casino
[00:50][Raf]: I also play ipad, and I don't see chat


So you don't use the ready button, and other players are waiting for you each spin for 30 seconds. Then players ask you if you need the whole 30 seconds but you ignore them, and don't answer for 8 minutes? Then you say you can't use chat but are able to make a copy of the conversation and post it on a forum?

When all you needed to do was say this..

[00:45][Raf]: I need time to bet

If you had said that it would have explained your slow play, and that you were human and not a bot.

I think bombus is right, you're an arsehole.

Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Taotie on Oct 24, 05:25 PM 2019
[08:17][System]: Welcome to the table, bombus!
[08:17][bombus]: hello arsehole
[08:18][bombus]: at least I know you're not a bot now so you are safe to play
[08:19][bombus]: seeing as you were here playing first, then 30 seconds is fine
[08:20][bombus]: but if you see other people playing when you log on then DO NOT hang around using 30 second bets or you will piss everybody off
[08:22][bombus]: fair enough?
[08:23][bombus]: it is really not fair to other players when you commandeer the game and force them to play at your pace
Title: Re: MPR
Post by: Raf on Oct 25, 11:28 AM 2019

So you don't use the ready button, and other players are waiting for you each spin for 30 seconds. Then players ask you if you need the whole 30 seconds but you ignore them, and don't answer for 8 minutes? Then you say you can't use chat but are able to make a copy of the conversation and post it on a forum?

I think bombus is right, you're an arsehole.

I don't understand why you offend a new user ....... I just wanted to climb the rankings.

I have clearly written that playing with ipad does not see the chat (I can use it, but off screen) .... and this explains why I answered after 8 minutes after the question.

However, the ready button is an option and if the administrator wants to reduce the 30 seconds you have to write to him.

 In this case I will adapt.

With education we get more and more,

Raf