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Title: A bankroll of only 703 units
Post by: nottophammer on Sep 13, 05:59 AM 2017
If you had a bankroll of 703 units, how would you play  :question:
Title: Re: A bankroll of only 703 units
Post by: wiggy on Sep 13, 07:18 AM 2017
That's a lot of chips mate!  :)

Title: Re: A bankroll of only 703 units
Post by: nottophammer on Sep 13, 07:42 AM 2017
Not for a brain dead plasterer
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Title: Re: A bankroll of only 703 units
Post by: strato1985 on Sep 13, 02:14 PM 2017
NOTTOHAMMER.  I'm a plasterer south west.. recession is off
Title: Re: A bankroll of only 703 units
Post by: maestro on Sep 13, 02:16 PM 2017
brexit is on dont worry
Title: Re: A bankroll of only 703 units
Post by: strato1985 on Sep 13, 03:09 PM 2017
Can't wait
Title: Re: A bankroll of only 703 units
Post by: nottophammer on Sep 13, 04:03 PM 2017
Quote from: strato1985 on Sep 13, 02:14 PM 2017
NOTTOHAMMER.  I'm a plasterer south west.. recession is off
The southwest nice.
Strat is only a ref to the way peeps on FOBT, plaster chips everywhere, or like wiggy says you hear there finger tapping away like a woodpecker :thumbsup:
Title: Re: A bankroll of only 703 units
Post by: nottophammer on Sep 13, 04:08 PM 2017
Quote from: nottophammer on Apr 08, 05:56 PM 2015
   (pp,b. 20.2.15)
1   6
2   30
3   6
4   16
5   14
6   24
7   30
8   29
9   33
10   7
11   16
12   3
13   3
14   18
15   2
16   25
17   6
18   5
19   22
20   21
21   10
22   22
23   25
24   19
25   15
26   3
27   24
28   2
29   14
30   15
31   19
32   11
33   14
34   35
35   34
36   22
37   7
38   19
39   19
40   3
41   12
42   9
43   20
44   4
45   10
46   33
47   29
48   33
49   7
50   8
51   15
52   31
53   24
54   34
55   36
56   6
57   35
58   17
59   23
60   19

with 703 units could you win on these from back in the day
Title: Re: A bankroll of only 703 units
Post by: Andre Chass on Sep 13, 06:02 PM 2017
I have a bankroll of 15.000, how should I play!

No kidding
Title: Re: A bankroll of only 703 units
Post by: nottophammer on Sep 13, 06:16 PM 2017
Andre
I say how would you play.
If you look at 703 units, in play how many wins would be needed to keep in front if Flat bet. So 703/36 =19.52 wins.
So if you flat bet from spin 1 and add a unit after each spin, 37 spins is 703 units.
Here is PP,B 20.2.15


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Title: Re: A bankroll of only 703 units
Post by: Andre Chass on Sep 13, 06:45 PM 2017
Quote from: nottophammer on Sep 13, 06:16 PM 2017
Andre
I say how would you play.
If you look at 703 units, in play how many wins would be needed to keep in front if Flat bet. So 703/36 =19.52 wins.
So if you flat bet from spin 1 and add a unit after each spin, 37 spins is 703 units.
Here is PP,B 20.2.15


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I did not understand how I should bet. Could you explain me?
Title: Re: A bankroll of only 703 units
Post by: Andre Chass on Sep 13, 06:55 PM 2017
PP,B 20.2.15

What it means?
Title: Re: A bankroll of only 703 units
Post by: nottophammer on Sep 13, 07:04 PM 2017
PaddyPower Bedford 20.2.15 FOBT
Title: Re: A bankroll of only 703 units
Post by: Andre Chass on Sep 13, 07:07 PM 2017
Quote from: nottophammer on Sep 13, 07:04 PM 2017
PaddyPower Bedford 20.2.15 FOBT

I do not know that.

I'm not understanding how I should bet. Could you explain, please?

I will appreciate it
Title: Re: A bankroll of only 703 units
Post by: nottophammer on Sep 14, 03:38 AM 2017
Andre
Is this how Den is playing it. When he says use 1,2,3 this can be flat bet, as you only place a unit on the hit #, so when one of the 1 hit repeat, you'll have a chip to place, which would make that # now have 2 unit. 37 spins placing a unit is 703.
What did he say When to stop? Up to you. You can reset each time your in profit. Enjoy  :)

To me its reset at 1st profit. On that old set of #'s that can't be manipulated +33

link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=18673.0
Title: Re: A bankroll of only 703 units
Post by: nottophammer on Sep 14, 04:10 AM 2017
Andre
Take student denzies words Reset each time inprofit. Here are 38 #'s from a member today.


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If you record your spins for analysis, you would or should see most opening 10 spins have a repeat, more than 10/10, no repeat. But 10/10 does happen, and the more that become 1 hit before repeating, is costing , so this must be where he and Turbo drop some,
But i don't think Turbo would be betting from spin 1 as we've seen in "can you make 9000 by 58th spin"
Title: Re: A bankroll of only 703 units
Post by: nottophammer on Sep 14, 04:46 AM 2017


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So did you hear Denzie's words reset when in profit. even when it went red, - profit, it still came back into profit, but alas if you carried on you'd have only your self to blame.
Title: Re: A bankroll of only 703 units
Post by: Taotie on Sep 14, 04:57 AM 2017
Quote from: nottophammer on Sep 13, 05:59 AM 2017
If you had a bankroll of 703 units, how would you play  :question:

I would keep 3 units for beer and play with 700 units.


I would bet once on the last 9 uniques on a rolling basis. then once on the last 8, then the last 7, etc down to the last 5.

I would start afresh on each new bankroll high.

I would continue after any win that does not result in a new bankroll high.

I would continue on repeated losses all the way through the progression.

The progression would increase after each set of 9,8,7,6,5.

9+8+7+6+5=35. So each round I would bet 35 numbers over 5 attempts

I would bet for 4 rounds. 35x4=140. So I would bet on a total of 140 uniques.

I would use this progression, 1,2,5,12.

unit breakdown per set is 35+70+175+420=700 units.

+3 units for beer. :thumbsup:




Title: Re: A bankroll of only 703 units
Post by: nottophammer on Sep 14, 05:15 AM 2017
Like it Mr Green
Title: Re: A bankroll of only 703 units
Post by: nottophammer on Sep 14, 05:29 AM 2017
Mr Taotie (green)


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So 28th unique is in and we now bet, flat bet the last 9 unique. Theres been 464 games when we could bet for the 29th unique,
T/spin 1740*9= 15660, as you are flat beting every spin, you must win all 464 games
Games 464*36= 16704  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: A bankroll of only 703 units
Post by: nottophammer on Sep 14, 06:04 AM 2017
Mr T/G
here are the spins where it comes in, in 1 spin and the max of 17 spins, i let you tell if your way you would be +, like flat betting.
Also the avg to hit is 4 spins, so would bet just 4 times with a prog be good ?


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Title: Re: A bankroll of only 703 units
Post by: nottophammer on Sep 14, 06:07 AM 2017
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for you Mr T 9,8,7,6,5
Title: Re: A bankroll of only 703 units
Post by: Madi on Sep 14, 08:46 AM 2017
Not denzie, turbo metioned this in very early stage at gf .Thats just to make people understand. In real field u cant play so many number. Only 2-3 number. That is very calculative strategy. Even if u play 4-5 number the progression will fail.
Title: Re: A bankroll of only 703 units
Post by: ArmitageShanks on Sep 14, 09:03 AM 2017
Quote from: nottophammer on Sep 14, 04:10 AM 2017
Andre
Take student denzies words Reset each time inprofit. Here are 38 #'s from a member today.


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If you record your spins for analysis, you would or should see most opening 10 spins have a repeat, more than 10/10, no repeat. But 10/10 does happen, and the more that become 1 hit before repeating, is costing , so this must be where he and Turbo drop some,
But i don't think Turbo would be betting from spin 1 as we've seen in "can you make 9000 by 58th spin"

Do you have more spins for this?
I would have been -25 units with my take on the repeat method but do sometimes (not often) have to go nearer to 70 spins for profit
Title: Re: A bankroll of only 703 units
Post by: nottophammer on Sep 14, 09:10 AM 2017
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Title: Re: A bankroll of only 703 units
Post by: ArmitageShanks on Sep 14, 10:15 AM 2017
Cool thanks. By spin 53 (i think) the 3rd time 5 hits i would have been plus 19 and looking at the rest that would have turned into more but i wouldve stopped there.
Title: Re: A bankroll of only 703 units
Post by: nottophammer on Sep 14, 11:11 AM 2017
Quote from: ArmitageShanks on Sep 14, 10:15 AM 2017
Cool thanks. By spin 53 (i think) the 3rd time 5 hits i would have been plus 19 and looking at the rest that would have turned into more but i wouldve stopped there.
Good +19 then reset, but have you just followed the hot number/s, like wait for 1st R1, then start to bet all R1, when R1 goes R2, just bet all R2 to go R3, or do you drop some like turbo did on the graph 9000 by spin 58.
To me if you are going to drop some you'd need to be watching the count of all 0x's, 1x's and >1x's, to make a decision on what to drop.
Title: Re: A bankroll of only 703 units
Post by: nottophammer on Sep 14, 11:48 AM 2017
Now this is top dog table play, not for the faint hearted, peeps like top dog Mr bullshit J, who can't even play GUT in a B+M.


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I've waited for 1st hot number, but big big Br needed with 1,5,25 and he does mention using 100 so it does win  :question: or like top student Denzie said if near to starting BR take the small loss, like the -11, when R4 came

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As you see, theres the repeat in 1st 10 spins, at spins 40,8+15.8 or 8+15 in spins 11-40 = 23 non-hit could show, but we see 27 have come, so not good for hot numbers, and the usual for 60 spins , 30 non-hit in 60 spins.



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If you can't see then theres no hope for ya
Title: Re: A bankroll of only 703 units
Post by: nottophammer on Sep 14, 02:27 PM 2017


ArmitageShanks
Here is my GUT paper tracker, even old dickhead Mr J could use at the B+M, only condition is if they spin to the green light like Aspers, then the table needs to be busy, but 45 second spin you couldn't lay 14 units.
But reason why show you is you can see KTf and besides the trot i mark, 15 0x's in spin 11-40.
Now you can see how fast this game is by the 2x's are just growing, because the larger group did what they should.
I marked the crossing and there after in red, now the decision to bet the crossing, i would leave as the 0x's are so fast you've had 14 in 20 spins.
But you see how the paper tracker can help to make decisions.
Across the top you can see the spin registry and how fast they came 2,1,1,1,1,1 etc;
Title: Re: A bankroll of only 703 units
Post by: nottophammer on Sep 14, 03:47 PM 2017
shanks, this why testing on MPR is not good, to many times it plasterers non-hits to fast, and i mean to many come more often then a set of spins with repeats, here 60th spin 34non-hit came.
So betting every spin, using 703 units losses as its fast for non-hit.
But turbo Denzies or Denzie turbo went ok as betting less #'s, look at pri's checkpoints, +3 on 40th spin where we could see 25 non-hit and +4 on the 60th spin where we have avg of 30.5.

Mr T remaining 9,8,7,6,5  :thumbsup:


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Title: Re: A bankroll of only 703 units
Post by: ArmitageShanks on Sep 14, 04:38 PM 2017
Not had a chance to properly look at this all. Hopefully get a chance tomorrow and get back to you.
Title: Re: A bankroll of only 703 units
Post by: nottophammer on Sep 14, 04:52 PM 2017
More games on MPR produce above my avg, FOBT, B+M nothing like it, perhaps Maestro is right just software.


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another 40 spins fast


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as are most games onhere, so test at your own risk.
Steve,but its still good to collect spins to compare, but its about as good as random.org
Title: Re: A bankroll of only 703 units
Post by: Taotie on Sep 14, 08:51 PM 2017
For fun I just ran notto's 101 spins through RX playing my "3 units for beer" system.  :twisted:

The end balance says it all..  >:D

Result attached.
Title: Re: A bankroll of only 703 units
Post by: nottophammer on Sep 15, 03:32 AM 2017
Why Mr Taotie you are the  >:D
Title: Re: A bankroll of only 703 units
Post by: ArmitageShanks on Sep 15, 04:29 AM 2017
Quote from: nottophammer on Sep 14, 02:27 PM 2017


ArmitageShanks
Here is my GUT paper tracker, even old dickhead Mr J could use at the B+M, only condition is if they spin to the green light like Aspers, then the table needs to be busy, but 45 second spin you couldn't lay 14 units.
But reason why show you is you can see KTf and besides the trot i mark, 15 0x's in spin 11-40.
Now you can see how fast this game is by the 2x's are just growing, because the larger group did what they should.
I marked the crossing and there after in red, now the decision to bet the crossing, i would leave as the 0x's are so fast you've had 14 in 20 spins.
But you see how the paper tracker can help to make decisions.
Across the top you can see the spin registry and how fast they came 2,1,1,1,1,1 etc;

Thanks for this i'll look at it over the weekend.
The other numbers you posted with my way of playing repeats was hard but i would have carried on so who knows but the set of 60 spins with 32/36 hitting 4 times i would have been over 100 units down.
The next where 4 hits at spin 22 i would have been plus 18 and stopped and the set of spins after that at spin 40 11 hits and i would have that point been -14 units but like i say in those losing spins i would have carried on.
I dont play every hot number and numbers can be dropped and brought back.
I like your way of adding a unit everytime a new number repeated at that level but found it could be costly. I had looked at something similar but not tested it fully where you would do this for up to 4 numbers and once a 5th number hit stop and then continue again adding units at the next level e.g you have 4 numbers that have hit twice and a 5th comes in you now stop and once a number hits a 3rd time you start again and add another unit for each new number again stopping on the 5th hit etc etc just as a way of keeping BR down but like i say its just an idea that i havent really looked into that much yet.
Title: Re: A bankroll of only 703 units
Post by: ArmitageShanks on Sep 15, 04:49 AM 2017
Oh and i use a mild progression compared with the 1 5 25 100
Title: Re: A bankroll of only 703 units
Post by: Andre Chass on Sep 15, 04:48 PM 2017
Thank you!

I will study this strategy and give it a try this weekend.