Well, I must admit Andre Chass is doing well on his system. Is it just luck? I'm going to try the same but with little different rule. If I'm unlucky to hit the 0,3,6,7 or 10, I'm going to keep playing until I'm in plus. I've seen many numbers passing by without any of the not wanted to hit. Though, the stake will be much lower than what Andre Chass play with. If it goes well I can rise my stake after a while. Time to bet soon....
First bet went well. Day 1, + 1 unit, total 1 unit. But I saw on a table the bad numbers were hitting 6 times in 20 spins so I waited a little bit. That can make you nervous. So if you're unlucky how many bets to overcome that? Anyway, not a problem today. :thumbsup:
Test on RX extreme shows it fails. But can you compare it with livespins? Will see how that goes. However, today bet won again. Total: + 2 units.
No, checking with live spins don't give an advantage. So I don't know if I will continue this thread. Sooner or later you get a loss.
Hit and run just slows down the time frame in which you lose.
If you guys like hit and run so much then do a hit and run every 30 mins! It's the same as every day 1 play and much faster. I don't see a point but still..
Why play once a day? Makes no sense, you need more spins to see if the thing actually works.
Hit and Run makes absolutely no sense to me
Random numbers are random. No prize for that one eh?
They are independent and not related to each other. Our minds are used to the marque and serial progression of numbers in a line
If we download 20 numbers from Random.org, it makes no difference what order they are in, but we feel more comfortable seeing them in a line, top number is last out, bottom number is furthest back
We wouldnt like this from Rand.org
25 15 11 7 21
19 36 30 29 33
8 25 1 1 30
19 20 6 26 12
But we would like this:
33
33
11
15
1
19
10
35
21
12
23
10
34
2
3
10
4
26
24
5
Its an illusion, as are patterns and comments like "gives Random something to think about", like random is all those numbers together. Its not. It 20 individual random numbers with no relationship.
So If I have 20 random numbers from a single 0 wheel, I could have 32, 20, 18, 20, 17, 13, 17, 30, 11, 18, 2, 1, 26, 35, 11, 26, 30, 36, 35, 3
I could also represent the random number by R and represent the above 20 random numbers as:
R, R, R, R, R, R, R, R, R, R, R, R, R, R, R, R, R, R, R, R
So Joe comes up half way through and plays the last 10 and goes home and Bob plays hit and run by playing the first 5, is up, and waits, then comes back to play the last 5 (for reasons beat known to his H&R system)
Joe played R, R, R, R, R, R, R, R, R, R
Bob played R, R, R, R, R, R, R, R, R, R
Meanwhile, Dan plays miles away in 2 casinos, 5 spins and his mates want to leave, so he goes with them to the other casino and plays 5 more
Dan Played R, R, R, R, R, R, R, R, R, R
If Dan had stayed and carried on he would have played R, R, R, R, R, R, R, R, R, R
Makes absolutely no difference.
Quote from: Turner on Sep 18, 03:48 PM 2017
Hit and Run makes absolutely no sense to me
Random numbers are random. No prize for that one eh?
They are independent and not related to each other. Our minds are used to the marque and serial progression of numbers in a line
If we download 20 numbers from Random.org, it makes no difference what order they are in, but we feel more comfortable seeing them in a line, top number is last out, bottom number is furthest back
We wouldnt like this from Rand.org
25 15 11 7 21
19 36 30 29 33
8 25 1 1 30
19 20 6 26 12
But we would like this:
33
33
11
15 doz 3,3 back bet doz 1&2 w
1
19
10 doz 2, 3 back bet 1&2 w
35
21
12 doz 1,3 back bet 2&3 L
23 doz 3,3 bak bet 1&2 w
10
34 doz 1,3 back bet 2&3 w
2
3
10 doz 3,3 back bet 1&2 w
4
26
24 doz 1,3 back bet 1&2 w
5
Its an illusion, as are patterns and comments like "gives Random something to think about", like random is all those numbers together. Its not. It 20 individual random numbers with no relationship.
So If I have 20 random numbers from a single 0 wheel, I could have 32, 20, 18, 20, 17, 13, 17, 30, 11, 18, 2, 1, 26, 35, 11, 26, 30, 36, 35, 3
I could also represent the random number by R and represent the above 20 random numbers as:
R, R, R, R, R, R, R, R, R, R, R, R, R, R, R, R, R, R, R, R
So Joe comes up half way through and plays the last 10 and goes home and Bob plays hit and run by playing the first 5, is up, and waits, then comes back to play the last 5 (for reasons beat known to his H&R system)
Joe played R, R, R, R, R, R, R, R, R, R
Bob played R, R, R, R, R, R, R, R, R, R
Meanwhile, Dan plays miles away in 2 casinos, 5 spins and his mates want to leave, so he goes with them to the other casino and plays 5 more
Dan Played R, R, R, R, R, R, R, R, R, R
If Dan had stayed and carried on he would have played R, R, R, R, R, R, R, R, R, R
Makes absolutely no difference.
Perfect
RG
played like above today as Mother-in-law day, so just bet double doz for £1 units taking £5 and move to next machine, 4 in total walked with £25 as last machine was showing zero missed for 66 spin so put .25p as insurance and zero dropped in, luvly jubbly.
Quote from: Turner on Sep 18, 03:48 PM 2017
Hit and Run makes absolutely no sense to me
Random numbers are random. No prize for that one eh?
They are independent and not related to each other. Our minds are used to the marque and serial progression of numbers in a line
If we download 20 numbers from Random.org, it makes no difference what order they are in, but we feel more comfortable seeing them in a line, top number is last out, bottom number is furthest back
We wouldnt like this from Rand.org
25 15 11 7 21
19 36 30 29 33
8 25 1 1 30
19 20 6 26 12
But we would like this:
33
33
11
15
1
19
10
35
21
12
23
10
34
2
3
10
4
26
24
5
Its an illusion, as are patterns and comments like "gives Random something to think about", like random is all those numbers together. Its not. It 20 individual random numbers with no relationship.
So If I have 20 random numbers from a single 0 wheel, I could have 32, 20, 18, 20, 17, 13, 17, 30, 11, 18, 2, 1, 26, 35, 11, 26, 30, 36, 35, 3
I could also represent the random number by R and represent the above 20 random numbers as:
R, R, R, R, R, R, R, R, R, R, R, R, R, R, R, R, R, R, R, R
So Joe comes up half way through and plays the last 10 and goes home and Bob plays hit and run by playing the first 5, is up, and waits, then comes back to play the last 5 (for reasons beat known to his H&R system)
Joe played R, R, R, R, R, R, R, R, R, R
Bob played R, R, R, R, R, R, R, R, R, R
Meanwhile, Dan plays miles away in 2 casinos, 5 spins and his mates want to leave, so he goes with them to the other casino and plays 5 more
Dan Played R, R, R, R, R, R, R, R, R, R
If Dan had stayed and carried on he would have played R, R, R, R, R, R, R, R, R, R
Makes absolutely no difference.
Everything above is true. But since roulette is also a game of luck you cant completely discard luck. Im going to take a stupid example. My wife doesn't like to visit our family in LA because she fears an earthquake, so we go the least we can. Maybe once or twice a year.
Sure the earthquake will happen eventually, but if I go the less as possible, I might not be there when it happens. The same way, if you're not "there" too often at the roulette table, you might be in a safe place when the castastrophe happens.
Anyway Turner, I've seen you around here for years now. Whats your systemm? Whatdoyou like to play ?
Quote from: steven1212 on Sep 19, 07:33 AM 2017The same way, if you're not "there" too often at the roulette table, you might be in a safe place when the castastrophe happens.
Imagine a trapdoor that opens (on average) once every 10 mins. Below are spikes, and you die if you were on it at the time.
I will pay you out if you stand on it for 20 seconds.
Sometimes its been known to open after 60 mins or longer. Sometimes after a few seconds. 10 mins is an average
Is it better to just get on the trapdoor and hope for the best, or wait until just after it last opened?
Quote from: steven1212 on Sep 19, 07:33 AM 2017Whats your systemm? Whatdoyou like to play ?
I am generally interested in numbers that have been hitting above average, and letting go of numbers that have ceased to be doing that, however, There is one last ingredient!..... one little detail I wont revealed about my system :thumbsup:
Quote from: Turner on Sep 19, 08:32 AM 2017
one little detail I wont revealed about my system :thumbsup:
I'm one of the few that gets it. Nice humor
Quote from: boyd30 on Sep 17, 11:49 AM 2017
Well, I must admit Andre Chass is doing well on his system. Is it just luck? I'm going to try the same but with little different rule. If I'm unlucky to hit the 0,3,6,7 or 10, I'm going to keep playing until I'm in plus. I've seen many numbers passing by without any of the not wanted to hit. Though, the stake will be much lower than what Andre Chass play with. If it goes well I can rise my stake after a while. Time to bet soon....
Good luck!
Quote from: steven1212 on Sep 19, 07:33 AM 2017
Everything above is true. But since roulette is also a game of luck you cant completely discard luck. Im going to take a stupid example. My wife doesn't like to visit our family in LA because she fears an earthquake, so we go the least we can. Maybe once or twice a year.
Sure the earthquake will happen eventually, but if I go the less as possible, I might not be there when it happens. The same way, if you're not "there" too often at the roulette table, you might be in a safe place when the castastrophe happens.
Anyway Turner, I've seen you around here for years now. Whats your systemm? Whatdoyou like to play ?
Perfect!
That's the way I think!
After a break for a day I decided to go on with this. Day 3, win +1. Now totally + 3 units. I think Andre Chass approach to it is better than what I thought to play. If you get a loss, you might stumble into a bad session which never recover. Hopefully you are way up before a loss, and you must be very unlucky with 2 or more losses in row?
Day 4: Win. Total: +4 units
What are you betting Boyd?
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Sep 21, 03:56 PM 2017
What are you betting Boyd?
Same as Andre Chassi, but stake is much less. I don't know when I dare to double the bet. Maybe if I reach 20 wins or something like that.
Day 5 win. Total + 5 units. I never play when I see 0,3,6,7 or 10 show up. I saw it and the numbers came up in cluster. So I changed table.
See my response in the other hit and run thread
They do seem to cluster unpredictably.
Quote from: boyd30 on Sep 22, 01:18 PM 2017
Day 5 win. Total + 5 units. I never play when I see 0,3,6,7 or 10 show up. I saw it and the numbers came up in cluster. So I changed table.
I do the same!
Good luck us!
Day 6 win. Total + 6 units.
Day 7, win. Total + 7 units.
Day 8, win. Total + 8 units. According to Steven's rules I could play this 8 times a day spreading out the bets on a day, but I don't have the time. So it will be only one bet a day. 8 bets a day would make faster profit I think, but now it is what it is.
Boyd,
What type of wheel are you playing at: dealer-spun, airball, or RNG? Single 0 or double 0?
Anyway, keep up the good work with your testing.
I like to bet against rare patterns on a hit-and-run basis, so I have a tangential interest in what you are doing.
Quote from: DoctorSudoku on Sep 25, 06:18 PM 2017
Boyd,
What type of wheel are you playing at: dealer-spun, airball, or RNG? Single 0 or double 0?
Anyway, keep up the good work with your testing.
I like to bet against rare patterns on a hit-and-run basis, so I have a tangential interest in what you are doing.
I play at a live dealer table. Single 0 table. I tried RNG before, but It's a fake. I can tell you. Even if you put bet on 36 numbers it for sure hit the one you didn't bet. Never trust RNG.
Now after Steven's post my wonder is about the money management. Because that seems to be crucial.
Thank you for your input Doctor Sudoku!
Day 9, win. Total + 9 units.
Quote from: boyd30 on Sep 26, 12:47 PM 2017
Day 9, win. Total + 9 units.
Good to know that the strategy I'm using is working for you too...
Good luck for us
Yep, still working :)
Day 10, win. Total +10 units. After 5, the ball landed on 25.
Day 11, win. Total + 11. Number 21 hit.
Day 12, win. Total + 12. Number 33 hit.
Day 13, win. Total + 13 units. Number 12 hit.
Day 14, win. Total +14 units. Number 34 hit..close to 6, but I think it's been like that before too.
Day 15, win. Total + 15 units. Ball landed on 27.
Day 16, win. Total + 16 units. Number 29, still lucky :)
Quote from: boyd30 on Oct 03, 01:55 PM 2017
Day 16, win. Total + 16 units. Number 29, still lucky :)
Did you wait for triggers?
But I don't bet if I see 0,3,6,7 or 10 in the last ten spins. Also if there are a cluster of them in the ten earlier spins I wait a little. And I prefer to bet right after a high number. So It's a kind of trigger but not the same like you had.
Quote from: boyd30 on Oct 03, 04:37 PM 2017
But I don't bet if I see 0,3,6,7 or 10 in the last ten spins. Also if there are a cluster of them in the ten earlier spins I wait a little. And I prefer to bet right after a high number. So It's a kind of trigger but not the same like you had.
It's a good strategy! I was betting like this.
As far as it works it's good. So far lucky.But I pass the bet today, litte time and no right circumstances showed up.
Day 17, loss. It came yesterday, 0 hit. Well, it would come sooner or later. I hope it could wait more so now I don't know if I will continue. I'm still up +8 units so not too bad.
Not bad! You're still profit...