I have played for few years and I have never found a very good system, recently I thought I found a good system that gave me some pretty good results for a week, until it stops.
So it was the system? Honestly, I don't think so.
We are living in a world were Artificial Intelligence is changing and have a great impact on everything, do you really think that is not used also by Casino'?
I really think my method failed because the ball was always always always start to land were my system was not covering after few spins, something that cannot be possible in a real normal world without some sort of computer intervention.
So the question is, what's the point to use a system if the Casino' will let the ball land where it should not?
I feel it is not fair, obviously doesn't exist a system to win at Casino', they are make it not happen, that's it.
Sorry, I need it to say it out loud to all :(
The only way to win is to understand what the casino is up to then get around their security protocol lapses. :twisted:
The rest theorectical shit on forums won't work because it's their job to make sure of that, ie. take your money. They didn't hide that at all, fact is they're proud of their technology advances made available to the casino, even crude magnets. >:D
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Agree with you CHT, when I have just realize that we cannot win at all because they will make sure that it will not happen was just a disappointment. But you are right again, it is their job to make sure that it will not happen and that you leave your money there, so it is written in the rules that you have to lose, they do it for profit and your money is the profit, so I suppose I just stop to play and stop to try to find a system. The Systems are not failing because of the system, but because the casino' has to take your money, that's it.
Hi watchblue .... Ahat is your system
Thanks
I was following a Quad Bet betting system, covering group of 4 number with a corner betting, increasing the betting following the numbers that were coming. Obviously it was problematic when the series was becoming long without a hit. During the virtual tests the long series were an exception, obviously on the real table the long series are not anymore an exception and they make it become the routine :-(
You should play roulette for fun first and then to try for real money from time to time, playing on inside bets is losing strategy and will failed always.
Actually you can beat almost every wheel one way or another. Slingshots are probably hardest and we beat about 10% of them.
And you don't need a computer for around a third of wheels
Ps the 360 rrs is mostly hype. It makes no difference with cross reference AP. But it can halve a rc edge from perhaps 80% to 40%. That's still a big edge. Beating rrs is not a big task.
Quote from: Steve on Nov 01, 04:01 AM 2017
And you don't need a computer for around a third of wheels
I can beat a particular online wheel easily with AP, that wheel is obvious.
BUT and a big BUT, I'm not sure about withdrawals when win big. I can't withdraw through arbitrage bets with sportsbet exchange becos I've no access. I can only rely on the gaming commission for protection. So big BUT.
Quote from: cht on Nov 01, 05:02 AM 2017
I can beat a particular online wheel easily with AP, that wheel is obvious.
BUT and a big BUT, I'm not sure about withdrawals when win big. I can't withdraw through arbitrage bets with sportsbet exchange becos I've no access. I can only rely on the gaming commission for protection. So big BUT.
Then great sport account !
If you can't, win small !
Quote from: cht on Nov 01, 05:02 AM 2017AP
Quote from: cht on Nov 01, 05:02 AM 2017
I can beat a particular online wheel easily with AP, that wheel is obvious.
BUT and a big BUT, I'm not sure about withdrawals when win big. I can't withdraw through arbitrage bets with sportsbet exchange becos I've no access. I can only rely on the gaming commission for protection. So big BUT.
what is that your mean AP ? what is the ap ?
I played at M88 since i live in Asia.
I'm playing with system that chasing the 3rd hit of a number. I ussualy wrote the 22spins before i start make a bet. All of us know that is always 1 or 2 numbers will hit more than twice in 37spin. What i bet for the last 15spins is numbers that already hit twice. At first this system make a good profit, i turn 1000u to 9388u in 3days. But after it, day after day becomes harder to win.. and yesterday about 60spins i only hit twice.. all of the numbers becomes 1 and 2hit. Busted my BR. It all doesn't make sense...
Quote from: Steve on Nov 01, 03:57 AM 2017
Actually you can beat almost every wheel one way or another. Slingshots are probably hardest and we beat about 10% of them.
Your problem is that you speak a lot of things, that everyone can beat roulette, which is easy and blah blah blah but does not explain how to do it. If you're going to say something say it completely. Stop making mystery or playing games.
Quote from: Ratwood85 on Nov 01, 12:16 PM 2017
I played at M88 since i live in Asia.
I'm playing with system that chasing the 3rd hit of a number. I ussualy wrote the 22spins before i start make a bet. All of us know that is always 1 or 2 numbers will hit more than twice in 37spin. What i bet for the last 15spins is numbers that already hit twice. At first this system make a good profit, i turn 1000u to 9388u in 3days. But after it, day after day becomes harder to win.. and yesterday about 60spins i only hit twice.. all of the numbers becomes 1 and 2hit. Busted my BR. It all doesn't make sense...
Wrong ! What you did.
You think the distribution of hit number is same everytime !!!?
That's a Bullshit belief, it won't work unless you Study a huge sample of spins and find anomaly...
Quote from: Ratwood85 on Nov 01, 12:16 PM 2017
I played at M88 since i live in Asia.
I'm playing with system that chasing the 3rd hit of a number. I ussualy wrote the 22spins before i start make a bet. All of us know that is always 1 or 2 numbers will hit more than twice in 37spin. What i bet for the last 15spins is numbers that already hit twice. At first this system make a good profit, i turn 1000u to 9388u in 3days. But after it, day after day becomes harder to win.. and yesterday about 60spins i only hit twice.. all of the numbers becomes 1 and 2hit. Busted my BR. It all doesn't make sense...
That has been my exact experience betting on 2-peaters to become 3-peaters.
Some sessions I will make profit flatbetting.
In other sessions, when NOT even one of the 2-peaters become 3-peaters, I am forced into deep negative progression territory.
I have even tried going for higher level repeaters (4 or 5 or even 6), but they are much worse.
Quote from: Andre Chass on Nov 01, 12:29 PM 2017
Your problem is that you speak a lot of things, that everyone can beat roulette, which is easy and blah blah blah but does not explain how to do it. If you're going to say something say it completely. Stop making mystery or playing games.
Actually i have explained it many times including complete systems, explanations of what works, what doesn't work, and why. I've even published free software so anyone can confirm what i say. Maybe you haven't been here long enough to see.
The problem is most people don't pay attention. Even you ignored clear information why your approaches were a bad idea. You can't ignore accurate advice then claim you didn't get any.
Quote from: Ratwood85 on Nov 01, 12:16 PM 2017
I played at M88 since i live in Asia.
I'm playing with system that chasing the 3rd hit of a number. I ussualy wrote the 22spins before i start make a bet. All of us know that is always 1 or 2 numbers will hit more than twice in 37spin. What i bet for the last 15spins is numbers that already hit twice. At first this system make a good profit, i turn 1000u to 9388u in 3days. But after it, day after day becomes harder to win.. and yesterday about 60spins i only hit twice.. all of the numbers becomes 1 and 2hit. Busted my BR. It all doesn't make sense...
That's exactly my point, what about the fact that it is not your system that stop working but it is the roulette that recognize what you are doing and work in order do not give you the numbers you need to win?
It is not conspiracy, it is just realize the fact (as someone says in the previous comments) that Casino' work in order to get your system not working, plain and simple.
If that it is true, it will never exist a system that work, because exactly in the moment that you see it working then the Casino' start to work against him :-(
Quote from: watchblue on Nov 01, 07:31 PM 2017
That's exactly my point, what about the fact that it is not your system that stop working but it is the roulette that recognize what you are doing and work in order do not give you the numbers you need to win?
It is not conspiracy, it is just realize the fact (as someone says in the previous comments) that Casino' work in order to get your system not working, plain and simple.
If that it is true, it will never exist a system that work, because exactly in the moment that you see it working then the Casino' start to work against him :-(
That statement is false. The casino don't need to do that work. If you test in RX you will find out it is the system after all that doesent work.
Quote from: celescliff on Nov 02, 07:32 AM 2017
That statement is false. The casino don't need to do that work. If you test in RX you will find out it is the system after all that doesent work.
I hate to say this but celescliff is correct systems that's not related to the wheel and ball doesn't work. Just test it properly.
Quote from: watchblue on Nov 01, 07:31 PM 2017
That's exactly my point, what about the fact that it is not your system that stop working but it is the roulette that recognize what you are doing and work in order do not give you the numbers you need to win?
It is not conspiracy, it is just realize the fact (as someone says in the previous comments) that Casino' work in order to get your system not working, plain and simple.
If that it is true, it will never exist a system that work, because exactly in the moment that you see it working then the Casino' start to work against him :-(
You are right BUT this applies only to rng tables or better say manipulated rng tables
Quote from: Steve on Nov 01, 05:06 PM 2017
Actually i have explained it many times including complete systems. Maybe you haven't been here long enough to see.
Can you provide the link pls ? Thx :thumbsup:
Oh man you still hoping for steves help!!??
Steve is a normal player like you but with experience, he accumulated a lot of skills within the time.
Give up ! No one will scratch your head but you !!
Rely on yourself and try to build up existent ideas and systems.
Quote from: Roulettebeater on Nov 02, 11:41 AM 2017
Oh man you still hoping for steves help!!??
Steve is a normal player like you but with experience, he accumulated a lot of skills within the time.
Give up ! No one will scratch your head but you !!
Rely on yourself and try to build up existent ideas and systems.
Dude ::)
Denzie my friend...
I like you but my advice to you : give up on Steve !
Quote from: Roulettebeater on Nov 02, 12:04 PM 2017
Denzie my friend...
I like you but my advice to you : give up on Steve !
In case you missed it....I dont need Steve. Wouldn't know what he can do for me.
I was trying to make a point.
Quote from: denzie on Nov 02, 12:14 PM 2017
In case you missed it....I dont need Steve. Wouldn't know what he can do for me.
I was trying to make a point.
Hey
Don't piss me off :xd:
I was joking
Quote from: celescliff on Nov 02, 07:32 AM 2017
That statement is false. The casino don't need to do that work. If you test in RX you will find out it is the system after all that doesent work.
The statement is true until you don't show a system that work in test and then it works also at the table :thumbsup:
Quote from: watchblue on Nov 04, 07:34 AM 2017
The statement is true until you don't show a system that work in test and then it works also at the table :thumbsup:
That makes no sense.
You can say the wheel is cheating all you want if your system wins at RX but loses at the table.
If your system loses at both RX and the table, then the wheel doesn´t have to cheat.
RX doesn´t lie. Either with its RNG engine or with real spins, you will eventually go into such bad runs you´d think it´s out to get you. But it´s only in the nature of the game.
Quote from: psimoes on Nov 04, 08:50 AM 2017
That makes no sense.
You can say the wheel is cheating all you want if your system wins at RX but loses at the table.
If your system loses at both RX and the table, then the wheel doesn´t have to cheat.
RX doesn´t lie. Either with its RNG engine or with real spins, you will eventually go into such bad runs you´d think it´s out to get you. But it´s only in the nature of the game.
Why it is not make sense, that's exactly the point of my post, I really believe that any system tested and working in RX will be always on the long run stopped by the casino' that will affect the results. What you are calling a very long bad runs it will always happens in the real world at the table because it is not so natural to happen but forced to make you lose.
I know it is difficult to hear this, it is just to say to a smoker that smoking is bad.
Someone already said that Casino' has only one goal, to get your money, so you have to accept that they will do their best to make you lose. Do you really believe that they are also gambler and let a ball to decide if that day has to lose or win? They are not gambler (the casino'), we are the gambler.
Very few people got the idea what the B& M casino rng can do. Reason most of here play at home . The arguments starts â€" â€" - casino got house edge why they need to cheat. I will win if they add 4 more zero. Thats not the case . U can get some more people who r measuring ball speed through the computer screen. Kind of funny. :love: :love: :love:
Quote from: Madi on Nov 05, 08:55 PM 2017
Very few people got the idea what the B& M casino rng can do. Reason most of here play at home . The arguments starts â€"�â€"�- casino got house edge why they need to cheat. I will win if they add 4 more zero. Thats not the case . U can get some more people who r measuring ball speed through the computer screen. Kind of funny. :love: :love: :love:
Yes I want more zero too :love: :love: :love:
Quote from: watchblue on Nov 05, 07:04 PM 2017
Why it is not make sense, that's exactly the point of my post, I really believe that any system tested and working in RX will be always on the long run stopped by the casino' that will affect the results. What you are calling a very long bad runs it will always happens in the real world at the table because it is not so natural to happen but forced to make you lose.
I know it is difficult to hear this, it is just to say to a smoker that smoking is bad.
Someone already said that Casino' has only one goal, to get your money, so you have to accept that they will do their best to make you lose. Do you really believe that they are also gambler and let a ball to decide if that day has to lose or win? They are not gambler (the casino'), we are the gambler.
The problem is: no system wins in the long run, to start with. Not a single one. Under realistic conditions, of course. No 40-step marty or whatever. If someone loses money at the table, blame the system before blaming the wheel.
I cant win since october... played european version but lost 2k, I have to win 2+ this week or this is the end.