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Title: Catch The 8-Train 2
Post by: ignatus on Jan 10, 07:26 AM 2018
Many will not like this system, because it use many numbers and a heavy negative progression. Still, i believe in it, from the first test it had 8/10 wins. (More testings is needed!)

it's a simple repeaters system, BR needed is 500u and (i recommend play with minium stakes),wingoal +500u. you play the progression until win or until BR is lost, first testings was done with random spins in RX. The main idea is to bet on semi-hotnumbers, numbers hit 1 time, hoping for a second hit  (the 8 last hit numbers in a progressive bet 1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1 numbers bet). When 8 numbers bet (and lost) you start the simple 8 numbers negative progression, (beginning with 2u).

2  2  3  4  5  6  8  10  13  17  22 28 36 46 59

Highest step in progression was 17-22u (or beyond at loss)

calculation of wins/losses

losses
2*500=1000

wins
8*500=4000

Total=+3000u
Title: Re: Catch The 8-Train 2
Post by: ignatus on Jan 10, 05:56 PM 2018
Well, i got 10â,¬, (no deposit) at betvoyager, and played for fun(for real) this on (no zero), played with 0.05u bets, and i admit i was "lucky" in the beginning, but now im +40â,¬, highest step in progression was 13-15u.
Title: Re: Catch The 8-Train 2
Post by: ignatus on Jan 11, 04:17 AM 2018
Playing with minimal stakes and a Big enough bankroll, i don't see how this can lose, yet?....from my test games at "roulette simulator", i think highest step in progression was 28-36u,

My profile @roulette-simulator link:s://roulette-simulator.info/user/e2a2dcc36a08a345332c751b2f2e476c (link:s://roulette-simulator.info/user/e2a2dcc36a08a345332c751b2f2e476c)

Here's a longer progressionline
progression 8 number = 1 1 1 1 2 2 3 4 5 6 8 10 13 17 22 28 36 46 59 76 98 126 162 208
Title: Re: Catch The 8-Train 2
Post by: ignatus on Jan 11, 06:54 AM 2018
Played now the @MPR, i still have the highest winrate on the leaderboard, 1.088......highest step in progression was 28-36u
Title: Re: Catch The 8-Train 2
Post by: nottophammer on Jan 11, 09:36 AM 2018
Xiam
Excellent, starting bank roll in tack. Is this from only using this topic for the bet?
Title: Re: Catch The 8-Train 2
Post by: ignatus on Jan 11, 11:08 AM 2018
Quote from: nottophammer on Jan 11, 09:36 AM 2018
Xiam
Excellent, starting bank roll in tack. Is this from only using this topic for the bet?

Hi notto, :) most wins with the MPR was playing "hangman", but from now on, i play only this one. With a high enough BR i think there is very slim chance it would bust.

Now, playing for real on betvoyager no zero with my no deposit-money, im now at +50 Euro,(i'll have to win 350 Euro to withdraw) played with minimum stakes (0.05) highest step in the progression was 22.
Title: Re: Catch The 8-Train 2
Post by: ignatus on Jan 11, 02:48 PM 2018
...continuation of the Real money play @BV  O0
Title: Re: Catch The 8-Train 2
Post by: sugtips on Jan 11, 04:48 PM 2018
Sir, Can I get a short video to understand well and remove confusion.

For eg

Spin#   bet
6             6
32           6, 32
24           6,32,24

Do we have to bet like this?

Regards
Sugtips
Title: Re: Catch The 8-Train 2
Post by: ignatus on Jan 11, 04:58 PM 2018
Quote from: sugtips on Jan 11, 04:48 PM 2018
Sir, Can I get a short video to understand well and remove confusion.

For eg

Spin#   bet
6             6
32           6, 32
24           6,32,24

Do we have to bet like this?

Regards
Sugtips

Hi sugtips, yes that's correct. you bet that way, (every number that hits), until you got 8 numbers bet, Then do one spin, after that you start the 8-numbers progression (starting with 2u),

example of gameplay can be found here; link:s://roulette-simulator.info/user/e2a2dcc36a08a345332c751b2f2e476c (link:s://roulette-simulator.info/user/e2a2dcc36a08a345332c751b2f2e476c)
Title: Re: Catch The 8-Train 2
Post by: ignatus on Jan 11, 07:01 PM 2018
The no zero game update,  8)
Title: Re: Catch The 8-Train 2
Post by: Taotie on Jan 11, 07:13 PM 2018
Quote from: ignatus on Jan 11, 06:54 AM 2018i still have the highest winrate on the leaderboard, 1.088......

Not even close..
Title: Re: Catch The 8-Train 2
Post by: willtherock on Jan 11, 11:10 PM 2018
Man, Ig, i always like your systems, but this one is the most intriguing one yet! I just booked a trip to Vegas in 3 weeks, and I want to test this one out online in the "real" casinos before I stay at Caesar's. I had a scary bit and got all the way up to the 22x8 bet, but it held true. I don't know if I would have that kind of stones in Vegas. Anyway, this was right at 200 spins (199 if you want to get technical). I downloaded RX just to test this system out. I will keep testing, give you my findings, and offer any suggestions. Thank you so much for the dedication you put in on this. I know you work hard for these, and it doesn't go unnoticed. My first drink in vegas will be a toast to you, my friend!

link:s://imgur.com/vmrYxEe (link:s://imgur.com/vmrYxEe)
Title: Re: Catch The 8-Train 2
Post by: Taotie on Jan 12, 01:08 AM 2018
Hey willtherock,

When you get to Vegas you will likely find the table spreads will not get you through the 1 to 59 progression.

Single number spreads in B&M casinos are usually around 1 to 20 units, so you will either have to compress the progression, or move to higher limit tables a few times throughout the 1 to 52 progression, which most people playing progressions don't like doing because they think their numbers are due on the current table.

Perhaps the airball machines give a bigger spread than the live wheels, I'm not sure?

Anyway, best of luck in Vegas!
Title: Re: Catch The 8-Train 2
Post by: ignatus on Jan 12, 02:40 AM 2018
Quote from: willtherock on Jan 11, 11:10 PM 2018I want to test this one out online in the "real" casinos before I stay at Caesar's. I had a scary bit and got all the way up to the 22x8 bet, but it held true. I don't know if I would have that kind of stones in Vegas. Anyway, this was right at 200 spins (199 if you want to get technical). I downloaded RX just to test this system out. I will keep testing, give you my findings, and offer any suggestions. Thank you so much for the dedication you put in on this. I know you work hard for these, and it doesn't go unnoticed. My first drink in vegas will be a toast to you, my friend!

Hi,

Well, that's great Will :) but keep on testing before playing for real (and share your result! in this thread) and find the highest step in progression,

my highest step so far, was  2 2 3 4 5 6 8 10 13 17 22 28 (36)

my math skill is not good, but that was keept within a 1000u BR.

This was really not meant for live tables,(i play at BV, with 0.05u bets, as you know) but if you can find a low-stake table with 1u (or less) bet,--i can't find any live-tables with lower minimal stakes than 5 SEK (5u) here in sweden i guess that same everywhere? idk...

i'd say, with a big enough BR, (1000u or more, played with 1u bets) i feel safe, and i think its a slim chance that BR would bust, ....we'll see?.... do more testings testings!.. :)
Title: Re: Catch The 8-Train 2
Post by: ignatus on Jan 12, 04:00 AM 2018
No zero game update  8)
Title: Re: Catch The 8-Train 2
Post by: ignatus on Jan 12, 05:33 AM 2018
2 More games today @roulette-simulator link:s://roulette-simulator.info/user/e2a2dcc36a08a345332c751b2f2e476c (link:s://roulette-simulator.info/user/e2a2dcc36a08a345332c751b2f2e476c)

im +2237 Ranked 86  O0
Title: Re: Catch The 8-Train 2
Post by: ignatus on Jan 12, 10:19 AM 2018
No zero game update  8)
Title: Re: Catch The 8-Train 2
Post by: ignatus on Jan 12, 11:08 AM 2018
Quote from: Taotie on Jan 11, 07:13 PM 2018
Not even close..

Not? Really ?
Title: Re: Catch The 8-Train 2
Post by: nottophammer on Jan 12, 11:32 AM 2018
looks good keep it up  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Catch The 8-Train 2
Post by: ignatus on Jan 12, 01:29 PM 2018
Quote from: nottophammer on Jan 12, 11:32 AM 2018
looks good keep it up  :thumbsup:

Thanks notto, :) i play mostly for real now (BV no zero, with 0.05 stakes) beginning with 10 Euro no deposit, i had luck as hell, and now i've played myself upto +100 Euro, wingoal +350 Euro, before i can with withdraw!) it takes time but it's worth it. Thanks goes to my GF with infinite support,.. and also some old members of the forum that has been my inspiration playing repeaters systems.

Title: Re: Catch The 8-Train 2
Post by: ignatus on Jan 12, 02:57 PM 2018
Roulette simulator
Rank 76
+2847


link:s://roulette-simulator.info/user/e2a2dcc36a08a345332c751b2f2e476c (link:s://roulette-simulator.info/user/e2a2dcc36a08a345332c751b2f2e476c)
Title: Re: Catch The 8-Train 2
Post by: Taotie on Jan 12, 03:09 PM 2018
Quote from: ignatus on Jan 12, 11:08 AM 2018Not? Really ?

Nope.

Here's one for starters, there are many more, sorry.
Title: Re: Catch The 8-Train 2
Post by: ignatus on Jan 12, 03:23 PM 2018
Quote from: Taotie on Jan 12, 03:09 PM 2018
Nope.

Here's one for starters, there are many more, sorry.

Alright, yes i seen that now, but ok, nevermind....
Title: Re: Catch The 8-Train 2
Post by: Smoczoor on Jan 12, 03:52 PM 2018
 This is crazy progression... but keep going  :)  O0
Title: Re: Catch The 8-Train 2
Post by: ignatus on Jan 12, 04:09 PM 2018
Quote from: Smoczoor on Jan 12, 03:52 PM 2018
This is crazy progression... but keep going  :)  O0

Yes, ...thx, well? as i said, this is not ment for live-tables? atleast it's meant to be played at minimum stakes with a pretty large bankroll..i'd say a 500-1000u BR is minimum to start with (1u stakes or less), then you build up the BR.....then, when you "feel safe" and you got a larger bank, progression can go longer cover up a longer losing streaks, (that is not infinite?) one of these "semi-hot" 8 numbers *must* hit in the near future?, even (with randomspins).....if what these "roulette experts" talk about, concerning "hotnumbers" is to be true? you tell me
Title: Re: Catch The 8-Train 2
Post by: ignatus on Jan 13, 09:27 AM 2018
Game Update...(highest step in the progressionline was 36u).
Title: Re: Catch The 8-Train 2
Post by: nottophammer on Jan 13, 01:14 PM 2018
Have you given up with count 4
Title: Re: Catch The 8-Train 2
Post by: Ross on Jan 14, 01:15 PM 2018
I've given this a try on BV but with a couple of
mods.

1. Start bet with last 4 numbers if no repeats.

2. After losing 8-number bet remove bet from
    oldest number and add bet on newest number.

As this is a bet on  repeats I monitor the Standard
Deviation of the last 8 numbers.  When it goes low
repeats are more likely but only for most recent
numbers so replacing the "old" number with the
"new" number seems to overcome the problem of the SD
dropping during betting.

With a bit of encouragement I might find time to
write a programme for this idea which seems
pretty good to me.
Title: Re: Catch The 8-Train 2
Post by: ignatus on Jan 14, 03:23 PM 2018
Alright Ross, that's great, but perhaps start a new thread and publish your testings with your system... :thumbsup:

I'm playing the original, with the original progression, now that seems to be crazy to most people, but i've had luck so far, we'll see how long it last.  8)

also, i've heard BV is a bad casino, but on the good side is

+You can play with very low stakes 0.05 Euro bets
+No zero roulette
+IF you have a bad internet connection and connection is lost, if you reconnect you can continue from were you was ....this is great because if you're in a middle of a progression you simply continue from were you was when reconnected.

on the bad side,
-bad graphic interface
-sometimes is hard to see the bets you've placed because of the bad graphics
-they withdraw 10% from all your winnings (but to be logical, that means they won't have a cheating RNG software, i sometimes even think the RNG rigged in my favor!)  :D

so far, so good  O0
Title: Re: Catch The 8-Train 2
Post by: boyd30 on Jan 14, 04:13 PM 2018
I don't believe in any casino with RNG. Been on BV. It works for a while, but not all the time. That's my experience. Betting many numbers is of course impossible on a real table. So keep going as long as it works.
Title: Re: Catch The 8-Train 2
Post by: ignatus on Jan 14, 04:51 PM 2018
Quote from: boyd30 on Jan 14, 04:13 PM 2018I don't believe in any casino with RNG

Me neither? but, somebody said -can you tell the difference from RNG spins and Live spins? no? (I think that was a good statement).

idk,...when it comes to repeaters, obviously they happen on rng just as much as they happen live?

i can't find any advantage, playing live/on the wheel. i believe betvoyager is not rigged. (otherwise they make no sense? why would they rig a game, that they make profit 10% from the winnings?)...furthermore, people blaming the game is rigged, should blame they play a bad system instead?..
Title: Re: Catch The 8-Train 2
Post by: ignatus on Jan 15, 04:29 AM 2018
Game update...  8)
Title: Re: Catch The 8-Train 2
Post by: vladir on Jan 15, 04:53 AM 2018
Hi. When you get to 8 numbers and you lose, you keep playing the same 8 numbers, or you play the last 8 hit numbers?

Example,
3, 35, 10, 21, 14 , 15, 17, 25

new number 36,

What do you play next?

a) 35, 10, 21, 14 , 15, 17, 25, 36
b) 3, 35, 10, 21, 14 , 15, 17, 25
Title: Re: Catch The 8-Train 2
Post by: ignatus on Jan 15, 05:05 AM 2018
Quote from: vladir on Jan 15, 04:53 AM 2018
Hi. When you get to 8 numbers and you lose, you keep playing the same 8 numbers, or you play the last 8 hit numbers?

Example,
3, 35, 10, 21, 14 , 15, 17, 25

new number 36,

What do you play next?

a) 35, 10, 21, 14 , 15, 17, 25, 36
b) 3, 35, 10, 21, 14 , 15, 17, 25

Hi vladir! :)

The answer would be B. When 8 numbers are bet in the progressive bet, as they come 1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1 (8 numbers). After 8 numbers been bet (and lost), you stay with those same numbers, and start the progression (until hit).

(beginning progression with 2u) it would look like
2 2 3 4 5 6 8 10 13 17 22 28 36 46 59 76 98 126 162 208
(8 numbers negative)

(higest step for me, was 28-36u, so far)

or else use your own progression,
Title: Re: Catch The 8-Train 2
Post by: ignatus on Jan 15, 07:42 AM 2018
Game update...  8)
Title: Re: Catch The 8-Train 2
Post by: ignatus on Jan 15, 11:59 AM 2018
well, i enjoyed playing this system at BV, but now it's all over.. (see pic)...BV is a scam, and i will never play there again.  :question:

anyone know of any other honest, fair low-stake casino?
Title: Re: Catch The 8-Train 2
Post by: willtherock on Jan 15, 08:14 PM 2018
Hey Ig I play at lucky red when I want low stake RNG. Lowest limit is .25, though. You still looking for .10?
Title: Re: Catch The 8-Train 2
Post by: DoctorSudoku on Jan 15, 09:05 PM 2018
Quote from: ignatus on Jan 15, 11:59 AM 2018
well, i enjoyed playing this system at BV, but now it's all over.. (see pic)...BV is a scam, and i will never play there again.  :question:

anyone know of any other honest, fair low-stake casino?


But many, maybe most, online casinos have similar policies about bonus funds, don't they?
Title: Re: Catch The 8-Train 2
Post by: boyd30 on Jan 16, 12:00 AM 2018
Quote from: ignatus on Jan 15, 11:59 AM 2018
well, i enjoyed playing this system at BV, but now it's all over.. (see pic)...BV is a scam, and i will never play there again.  :question:

anyone know of any other honest, fair low-stake casino?

What does it mean? Did you lose all your money? I never take a bonus when I play, because I know they have sneaky rules about it.
Title: Re: Catch The 8-Train 2
Post by: ignatus on Jan 16, 12:18 AM 2018
Quote from: boyd30 on Jan 16, 12:00 AM 2018
What does it mean? Did you lose all your money? I never take a bonus when I play, because I know they have sneaky rules about it.

Yes they deleted all my winnings ha ha  ;D but i enjoyed playing,
Title: Re: Catch The 8-Train 2
Post by: boyd30 on Jan 16, 06:03 AM 2018
Quote from: ignatus on Jan 16, 12:18 AM 2018
Yes they deleted all my winnings ha ha  ;D but i enjoyed playing,

Really? But if you play with bonus money I guess that can happen. It's craprules.
Title: Re: Catch The 8-Train 2
Post by: vladir on Jan 16, 09:20 AM 2018
Pokerstars has roulette in their software, minumum of 10 cents/bet. At least in my country they have it available, give it a try.
Title: Re: Catch The 8-Train 2
Post by: willtherock on Jan 17, 12:17 AM 2018
Ig, haven’t heard from you in a while on any forums...you cleaning up with this system? I think I’ve found a way to play it in Vegas.