Thanks God and Good Morning All.
I request you all to suggest any Matrix system for even chances to review and test.
Thanks.
Regards.
SugTips
Thanks God and Good Morning All.
As previously discussed so many times.
we record spins in a matrix and bet against to form a sequence.
its for EC
(link:://:.pichost.org/images/2018/01/15/temp_407872.png) (link:://:.pichost.org/image/yaJ1)
As mentioned on above image,
we bet on first column of matrix to come again High number for the 6th time in vertical.
And we bet High numbers on 6th column against 5 times vertical Low numbers and we assume it will not come again 6th time.
using 6 step neg prog.
any idea to make this process fast.
I have check with 4 wide matrix or 3 wide. those are not giving same results as 7 column wide matrix.
any suggestion, advice will be highly appreciated.
thanks a lot.
regards,
SugTips
Just a bit of an idea for you...I said it before on this site and I’ll say it again...the trick is not to bet against..bet for the same ..bet for 4 wins.so you need 5 of the same to make this happen which you have got...parlay winnings onto a repeat of the same next bet in column...1. ..2..4..8 giving a total profit of 15 units from one bet and parlayed..now take a look at what you would have made following this simple rule ..less money more profit..may go on a bit to be in profit sometimes but it’s the way to look at it properly ..if a different oppisite result comes out take loss and start from one unit again for it to repeat and parlay and for the latest result
Quote from: 6th-sense on Jan 15, 03:16 PM 2018
Just a bit of an idea for you...I said it before on this site and I’ll say it again...the trick is not to bet against..bet for the same ..bet for 4 wins.so you need 5 of the same to make this happen which you have got...parlay winnings onto a repeat of the same next bet in column...1. ..2..4..8 giving a total profit of 15 units from one bet and parlayed..now take a look at what you would have made following this simple rule ..less money more profit..may go on a bit to be in profit sometimes but it’s the way to look at it properly ..if a different oppisite result comes out take loss and start from one unit again for it to repeat and parlay and for the latest result
Very good input. Thanks.
If you tried different variations of the width of the matrix try the the one that gives the most repeats..and if you have balls of steel try and parlay for a ten stage repeat ..you would win a hell of a lot from 1 unit..glad to help..works well with dozens too for a 3 stage Parley with four of the same dozens in a row
Quote from: sugtips on Jan 15, 07:58 AM 2018
Thanks God and Good Morning All.
As previously discussed so many times.
we record spins in a matrix and bet against to form a sequence.
its for EC
(link:://:.pichost.org/images/2018/01/15/temp_407872.png) (link:://:.pichost.org/image/yaJ1)
As mentioned on above image,
we bet on first column of matrix to come again High number for the 6th time in vertical.
And we bet High numbers on 6th column against 5 times vertical Low numbers and we assume it will not come again 6th time.
using 6 step neg prog.
any idea to make this process fast.
I have check with 4 wide matrix or 3 wide. those are not giving same results as 7 column wide matrix.
any suggestion, advice will be highly appreciated.
thanks a lot.
regards,
SugTips
Ive been testing a three wide matrix for ALL even chances simultaneously. And I always get a 5 deep or more vertical line in 30 to 40 spins. Typically you get 1 to 2 vertical repeaters of 5 or greater. And one of them doesnt become 6.
This is proving very consistent.
If it’s consistent up to six repeats of same in column you could parlay for another repeat would outweigh losses on other columns as 1 unit could carry and be valid up to two or three repeats...ie 1 unit could go a long way breaking down the other spins out of 40..
Quote from: 6th-sense on Jan 15, 04:14 PM 2018
If it’s consistent up to six repeats of same in column you could parlay for another repeat would outweigh losses on other columns as 1 unit could carry and be valid up to two or three repeats...ie 1 unit could go a long way breaking down the other spins out of 40..
Nice thought 6th sense. Can you give an example with a 3 wide matrix. As to how you would play and stake this please...
Maybe tomorrow I’m off to bed in 5 mins..but it’s basically the flat bet and parlay method I mentioned I would post on Andres thread..the repeater one..but I use it in dozens but this is just the same regardless of which matrix you use..it’s just basically parlaying winnings to next in column trying to build up that 1 unit to a lot more instead of using your money to bet against you use the casinos money to bet for profit...why bet a ten stage progression at over a thousand units to win one unit..just bet 1 unit and try for the repeats to using the profits of casino and bet for 10 of the same parlaying with the money you won to win a thousand units for the price of one unit...10 is an extreme case but possible..depending on how long it takes to form..but if you regularly see 5 or 6 repeats forming you bet for the most common...I will give an example tomorrow when I get home but it’s pretty simple...
Quote from: 6th-sense on Jan 15, 04:14 PM 2018
If it’s consistent up to six repeats of same in column you could parlay for another repeat would outweigh losses on other columns as 1 unit could carry and be valid up to two or three repeats...ie 1 unit could go a long way breaking down the other spins out of 40..
Just came off Betway casino.
And this is what a 30 spin sample produced.
21-25-34
32-14-21
10-23-23
22-12-30
33-27-06
08-18-14----RED=6--C2
15-10-30
24-34-06----BLACK=6--C1/EVEN=5--C3
23-24-35
08-17-14
Feel like I just hijacked sugtips thread sorry sugtips...just sharing how it should be looked not to hijack your thread
Quote from: 6th-sense on Jan 15, 04:43 PM 2018
Feel like I just hijacked sugtips thread sorry sugtips...just sharing how it should be looked not to hijack your thread
Dont think he will mind. He asked for ideas and you are bringing them. I had talked about following developing lines before. But going beyond 6 wouldnt be fruitful very often.
Even though I have seen 14 lows. This only happened once in over 50 tests. I think 5 or 6 is alot more realistic.
Hi think your right with 5 or 6...going to 10 as I said balls of steel right I’m off to bed...but don’t be fooled with your example of spins you just shown. sometimes it takes a while to be in profit but drawdowns are not high but in the main are rectified by wins ..sometimes takes a while and slow but it’s the safest method there is..sometimes you could get fed up and take the loss for a break...but it’s not big money to lose if you did..you just plod in next time ...the key is how many repeats you are happy to go for.for me it’s 3 or 4 on dozens..sometimes I wish I had them balls of steel and went for more I’ve seen them repeat in the row 6 or 7 times but always stick to my guns...motto is stick to your plan..win sessions lose sessions so long as you creep up in profit
Also came up with a newer version of hangman which if I have time to post tommoz I will do ..seems to be doing good
Quote from: 6th-sense on Jan 15, 04:43 PM 2018
Feel like I just hijacked sugtips thread sorry sugtips...just sharing how it should be looked not to hijack your thread
Thanks God and Good Morning All.
@6th-sense, I am very happy Boss. Keep posting these Gems. And thank you very much.
Also waiting for modified Hangman version.
Thanks Sentinel3 too.
I will post my finding after some more testing.
Love and Light.
SugTips
Quote from: 6th-sense on Jan 15, 05:19 PM 2018
Hi think your right with 5 or 6...going to 10 as I said balls of steel right I’m off to bed...but don’t be fooled with your example of spins you just shown. sometimes it takes a while to be in profit but drawdowns are not high but in the main are rectified by wins ..sometimes takes a while and slow but it’s the safest method there is..sometimes you could get fed up and take the loss for a break...but it’s not big money to lose if you did..you just plod in next time ...the key is how many repeats you are happy to go for.for me it’s 3 or 4 on dozens..sometimes I wish I had them balls of steel and went for more I’ve seen them repeat in the row 6 or 7 times but always stick to my guns...motto is stick to your plan..win sessions lose sessions so long as you creep up in profit
Agree 6th sense. The buy in is small. Atlantis first brought this to my attention. He john legend and a few other members had been working on various matrix ideas some years back. But this one really looks like the best of them all.
Quote from: sentinel3 on Jan 16, 02:58 AM 2018But this one really looks like the best of them all.
I think now its time to show with examples and testing, please do testing and post sample sessions. thanks.
Quote from: sugtips on Jan 16, 03:17 AM 2018
I think now its time to show with examples and testing, please do testing and post sample sessions. thanks.
I will continue. I have 28 sessions recorded already sugtips.
All from 30 to 90 spins. All have produced a 5 in a maximum of 4 attempts. So a 15 unit prog. 1-2-4-8. Would have yielded 28 units profit already. Ive played a few of them for real.
The most interesting discovery to me sugtips. Is if you have say three vertical streaks of 5 or more. Theres always a 5 or 6 in there or both. Ive yet to see three at 7 or longer.
5 and 6 are the most popular streaks beyond 4. Even when I play my other systems. I know im going to get losses.
So far MV5 is 28/0. I will give a detailed breakdown on thursday. Once I have 50 sessions recorded.
A quick note while I have 5 mins...must stress to other members that the 1..2..4..8 progression is mainly the casinos money you are playing with only the original 1 unit bet which is yours to lose...as I say it’s a small buy in to keep playing...compared to the massive progression trying to bet against..which is a lot more of your money you are risking...I remember the old John legends days...was surprised no one thought about flatbet and parlay then for the formation of streaks even then
Hi, I understand @6th-Sense.
1Question: after how many repeats we start betting that the same outcome will come again? For example when we see doz 3 has came twice in vertical matrix, now we trying on next line to appear again, or after thrice or more, when to start betting?
I know we have to test it with positive progression. but I have just tested a small run using negative progression.
it ended in plus.
(link:://:.pichost.org/images/2018/01/16/temp_877870.png) (link:://:.pichost.org/image/yBC9)
You don’t wait for anything you just bet straight away under the 1st result in the column in the matrix...doesn’t matter which matrix you use the principles are the same
On my standard flatbet 3 bet parlay on those results you would have been up 42 units
Quote from: 6th-sense on Jan 16, 06:57 AM 2018
On my standard flatbet 3 bet parlay on those results you would have been up 42 units
HOW?
am seeing -16
Or I have misunderstood something?
Quote from: 6th-sense on Jan 16, 06:57 AM 2018
On my standard flatbet 3 bet parlay on those results you would have been up 42 units
I have attached those results in excel sheet, pls can you mark green on win and red on lose and repost it here. Thanks.
ok...dozen and columns have a different win ratio...you would bet 1..3..9...the 9 giving you a win of 27 minus the 1 unit we used to start the bet which is a profit of 26 per 3 wins..ie 4 of the same in a row..
your example you posted lets start with the 1st column
2 start point
3 we lost 1 unit as we bet for dozen 2
3 we won 2 units giving us 3 to place on next bet
1 we lost that 3 units but in reality just one unit as we were using casinos money
2 we lost again as we was betting for the dozen 1 above
1 we lost again as we was brtting for the dozen 2 above
1 we won 2 units again as we have a dozen 1 repeat..
3 we lost yet again as we bet for dozen 1 above
3 we won 2 units as we have a dozen 3 repeat
3 we won 8 units now we have a repeat..
3 we won 26 units now we have a repeat...4 in a row we keep money and rebet 1 unit
1 we lost no repeat on dozen 3
1 we won 2 units on repeat of dozen 1
3 we lost as we bet for dozen 1
1 we lost again as we bet for dozen 3 above
2 we lost again as we bet for dozen 1 above
1 we lost again as we bet for dozen 2 above
1 we won 2 units on repeat above
2 we lost as no repeat
now work out this column of dozens had 1 full win at 26 units...4 of our parlayed units were carried forward onto next bet negating 4 more spins of our money we had to place..so we actually only lost 11 units of our own money here....26 units won minus 11 units lost on this column of dozens alone gives us plus 15...do the same for the rest of the results you will see how much you are up..
hope this explains clearly...even chances have different pay out odds to dozens...all wins carry the very 1st bet...so 1 unit placed wins 2 but we keep our 1 unit with the 2 making 3 to bet on next spin..etc
Quote from: 6th-sense on Jan 16, 08:00 AM 2018hope this explains clearly
Thanks I understood now.
here is another test from recent mpr spins:
DOZENS
MATRIX
1 2 3
3 0 2
3 3 3
2 1 1
1 3 1
2 2 2
1 3 1
3 2 1
3 3 2
2 3 2
2 2 3
1 1 1
3 1 3
3 3 3
1 1 2
2 3 2
3 1 2
2 1 1
2 1 3
1 1 1
2 1 1
1 3 3
2 1 2
2 2 2
3 2 2
2 3 2
3 3 3
1 2 0
2 1 1
2 1 1
3 1 3
1 3 2
got only two sets at col 2 and col 3.
how do you see this now?
as i say it can be time consuming..boring even..i would just carry on ill take a look and see what the drawdown would be hangon
would only be down -13 units would just carry on..not much draw down tbh...
Quote from: sugtips on Jan 16, 09:32 AM 2018
Thanks I understood now.
here is another test from recent mpr spins:
DOZENS
MATRIX
1 2 3
3 0 2
3 3 3
2 1 1
1 3 1
2 2 2
1 3 1
3 2 1
3 3 2
2 3 2
2 2 3
1 1 1
3 1 3
3 3 3
1 1 2
2 3 2
3 1 2
2 1 1
2 1 3
1 1 1
2 1 1
1 3 3
2 1 2
2 2 2
3 2 2
2 3 2
3 3 3
1 2 0
2 1 1
2 1 1
3 1 3
1 3 2
got only two sets at col 2 and col 3.
how do you see this now?
Wow you have taken this somewhere else. I only bet on even chances. Against fives becoming sixes. Never considered the Dozens and columns.
But you do get alot of vertical repeaters. I would think the best thing to do is quit. As soon as you make a profit. As I saw this followed by this in one of my sessions today.
24-20-33
18-15-21---TWO matches 2nd DOZ.
09-02-27
20-00-24---SIX IN A ROW NO MATCH
I usually do stop on a win and restart ..but still the example shown is a good one..it happens occasionally..drawdown isn’t large as am aiming to get in plus ..just takes time and be slow going ..it can happen from the off or later on..dozens have a higher pay out so catches up.ive been down a lot more than -13 .I’m the opposite to you I never play the even chances..how’s that going?
A dozen has 50% probability hitting within two attempts - anything that pass that is a waste of time chasing.
More fun to look at single dozen that way and series of dozen that way with short cycles.
Change the game.
Cheers
Quote from: 6th-sense on Jan 16, 01:50 PM 2018
I usually do stop on a win and restart ..but still the example shown is a good one..it happens occasionally..drawdown isn’t large as am aiming to get in plus ..just takes time and be slow going ..it can happen from the off or later on..dozens have a higher pay out so catches up.ive been down a lot more than -13 .I’m the opposite to you I never play the even chances..how’s that going?
Its going well at the moment 6th sense. Ive had 33 winning sessions so far.
Where a 15 unit 1 2 4 8 prog has survived. And only been pushed twice in those 33 sessions. I will give a detailed breakdown. Once I have 50 to 60 sessions under my belt. I stop at a win. So many sessions only last for 18 spins. And 12 of them have come straight off the number board.
So some sessions are over in 5 minutes. Others take 30 to 60 minutes.
Depending if I get my 5 in the first attempt or the fourth. Most wins come in the first two attempts.
Thanks ego..I did read your thread and saw that you mentioned it there too..pretty interesting comment and so is your thread too..people should take the time to read it properly
Quote from: 6th-sense on Jan 15, 03:16 PM 2018
Just a bit of an idea for you...I said it before on this site and I’ll say it again...the trick is not to bet against..bet for the same ..bet for 4 wins.so you need 5 of the same to make this happen which you have got...parlay winnings onto a repeat of the same next bet in column...1. ..2..4..8 giving a total profit of 15 units from one bet and parlayed..now take a look at what you would have made following this simple rule ..less money more profit..may go on a bit to be in profit sometimes but it’s the way to look at it properly ..if a different oppisite result comes out take loss and start from one unit again for it to repeat and parlay and for the latest result
Ok so betting the dozen to repeat for 4 in a row.
1 win 3
3 win 9
9 win 27
1u loss every time it changes.
First test attached image but the questions are...
*How long can a run go without hitting 4 same dozens in a row.
*what progression to use so.. Maybe after 20 losses. We double the bet... Not sure!
1u for 20 Ls. (-20)
2u for 20 Ls. (-40)
4u for 20 Ls. (-80)
10u for 20 Ls. (-200)
Total loss if no hit in 80 bets = - 340
I’ve never done that before..so couldn’t say I usually just stay as is...so never tested..are you referring to total bankroll in minus before stepping up?...
Yea step up to next progression after 20 losses. Worth a better look
Just done another quick test.
It went to the 85th bet so using that progression i suggested would of busted.
(Typical roulette... Had a double win but then went on a run over 100spins with no dozen hitting 4 in a row)
Without going through it all did at any point you restart when in plus 1...and then restart the matrix?...the example sugatip gave is continuous which happens occasionally..you don’t have to keep going just to get the 4 in a row unless pushed to do so...
Maybe i misunderstood? I thought soon as see 4 dozens in a row (+27 - any losses beforehand) we stop and start again at 1u betting on dozens again to go 4 in a row.
We could just do with finding out how many bets it can go without seeing 4 dozens in a row. Then see if can work out a progression to play.
Maybe this progression.
1u for 25 bets. (-25) min win+2
2u for 22 bets (-44) min win +3
5u for 22 bets (-110) min win +1
15u for 24 bets (-360) min win +1
Total loss if goes 93 bets in a row with no win = - 539
Hope you understand.
Quote from: Mattjono88 on Jan 18, 04:10 AM 2018
Maybe i misunderstood? I thought soon as see 4 dozens in a row (+27 - any losses beforehand) we stop and start again at 1u betting on dozens again to go 4 in a row.
We could just do with finding out how many bets it can go without seeing 4 dozens in a row. Then see if can work out a progression to play.
Maybe this progression.
1u for 25 bets. (-25) min win+2
2u for 22 bets (-44) min win +3
5u for 22 bets (-110) min win +1
15u for 24 bets (-360) min win +1
Total loss if goes 93 bets in a row with no win = - 539
Hope you understand.
There are many ways this three wide matrix can be approached for success.
While monitoring results for matrix vertical 6 even chance. An attractive option has shown itself. I think this is one of the stronger two dozen bets.
You would monitor until you see a streak of three of the same dozen like the example below.
333
331
322---DOZ3 3 deep
You then bet against this going 6 deep. From the 65 sessions I have recorded for MV6 there have been 122 qualifiers. And only one made it to 6. So in a 122 plays youve lost 26 units once against my results.
And thats including sample of 221 numbers. Played in a snipe and shut down fashsion. Who knows how long you might avoid this.
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3
3
3
3
3
I feel this has more strength than other double dozen systems on the forum like CODE 4 which requires a risky 80 units to play properly.
You could either play this for two games. Then close it down and start elsewhere. Or set the trigger at 4 deep after your first two wins and play on for another 2 games with this as the trigger
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3
Then it would take this to defeat you
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I like this idea alot. 122/1 so far is looking very appealing.
Sounds great..how is the even chances going
Hi sentinel so your saying wait for any dozen or column to hit 3 times in a row then bet for it to break its run.
Using 1-1, 3-3, 9-9 prog.
Lose 26units if see 6 dozens or colums in a row.
So need 27 wins per 1 loss to be in profit.
But surly we need it to be around 50 wins to 1 loss to make it worthwhile.
Thanks
Quote from: Mattjono88 on Jan 18, 01:50 PM 2018Hi sentinel so your saying wait for any dozen or column to hit 3 times in a row then bet for it to break its run.
He mean using vertical matrix
Quote from: 6th-sense on Jan 18, 01:13 PM 2018
Sounds great..how is the even chances going
Hi 6th sense. This is the breakdown for 65 sessions so far.
TOTAL GAMES=234
5 STREAKS=130
6 STREAKS=63
6 PLUS STREAKS=41
Im playing 1--2 on the 5 and 6 streaks.
Played this way you would be plus 70 units up right now never risking more than 3 units a play.
You have to read the results and respond to them. If you have had two or three 6 plus streaks. The likelyhood of the next streak being a 5 or 6 is very high.
I record the numbers in a 3 wide matrix and play all the even chance opportunities.
Its looking very solid. You can risk more on qualifiers that come after 2 or 3 losses. And you will be rewarded.
Quote from: Mattjono88 on Jan 18, 01:50 PM 2018
Hi sentinel so your saying wait for any dozen or column to hit 3 times in a row then bet for it to break its run.
Using 1-1, 3-3, 9-9 prog.
Lose 26units if see 6 dozens or colums in a row.
So need 27 wins per 1 loss to be in profit.
But surly we need it to be around 50 wins to 1 loss to make it worthwhile.
Thanks
You will get it. Me personally. I see this as an additional bet to compliment my MV6 which is solid and low money play.
If you can wait for this
1
1
1
1
A 26 unit progression might win 100/1 or more easily. I havent even seen a 7 streak yet. Out of 46 possible 4 streak bets in my records. 4 went to 5. And 1 to 6.
Betting against an 8
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3
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With an 80 unit bank might be near invincible. You play for two wins at a time after you get a 4 deep streak. Your 80 unit bank might survive for years. I will carry on monitoring this throughout 2018.
Iv download around 40 of the screenshots of 185 spins smart live.
Im pritty sure this run of 7 is the longest run iv seen but ill double check them.
Would be annoying if went to +150 units. Then had 2 runs of 8 in short space of time. But we will see with more tests.
Quote from: Mattjono88 on Jan 18, 04:22 PM 2018
Iv download around 40 of the screenshots of 185 spins smart live.
Im pritty sure this run of 7 is the longest run iv seen but ill double check them.
Would be annoying if went to +150 units. Then had 2 runs of 8 in short space of time. But we will see with more tests.
variance can freak any pattern we know that. there is probably a 12 out there somehwere. The thing is you have to meet it.
And I think if you keep.your sessions on the short side. That will be very hard to do.
Played another two sessions tonight. Have 53 (4 to 6 streaks now) Still nothing beyond 6.
Another way to look at this is just playing for 4 streaks. So when you have
1
1
1
1
You just risk 2 units that this doesnt become a 5 or more. If I had done that over my 53 qualifiers. I would have
44 wins
9 losses.
Giving me a net of 26 units profit. For just 2 units a game. Its all percentages. If they are in your favour play them.
Quick test on 600 consecutive spins.
1-1. W = 20
3-3. LW = 6
9-9. LLW = 1
27-27. LLLW = 0
Profit = +27
Average bet every 22.2 Spins.
Quote from: Mattjono88 on Jan 18, 04:22 PM 2018
Iv download around 40 of the screenshots of 185 spins smart live.
Im prettty sure this run of 7 is the longest run iv seen but ill double check them.
Would be annoying if went to +150 units. Then had 2 runs of 8 in short space of time. But we will see with more tests.
Matt that isnt a run in a 3 wide matrix..thats just 7 straight spins on dozen 1. That can happen anytime. I saw 9 straight spins on dozen 1 yesterday.
And 8 straight spins on dozen 2 today.
In a 3 wide matrix. There will be a 2 spin gap between each formation. Something harder to do too often.
So lets say the black dots represent dozen 1 in this example
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â—â—‹â—‹
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See this is harder to form. Than just landing 7 in a bed of dozen 1 consecutively or the other 2 dozens. Its got to cycle round 7 times and land dozen 1 in the same place. This is why its much harder for mr variance to do this. But it will of course happen at some point. The thing is. Its going to be a real freak event.
Ive seen the ball hit a dozen 7 times or more everyday this week. With it hitting dozen 3 nine times consecutively on Monday. You might go years before you would withness this in live play.
322
313
311
320
322
331
313
333
321
Thats why the matrix does a good job at taming variance to some degree. It has to work alot harder to freak those streaks.
Thanks. I understand now pal 👍
Quote from: Mattjono88 on Jan 18, 05:40 PM 2018
Thanks. I understand now pal 👍
You are welcome. Its quite exciting to think about the possibilities when you lock mr variance into a matrix. You can see ways of beating the game alot more clearly then.
Testing on the same 600 on only the columns.
W =4
LW=1
LLW=0
LLLW=2
+7
So lets say on average you get 6 wins every 200 spins playing both dozens and columns.
You would have to play with starting units 10 (800u total) to make it a worthwhile profit of +60
Was thinking could we use this as a trigger too.
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2
1
Hitting the furthest back dozen 4 times. This way we get alot more opportunity to bet.
Playing only on the columns 180 spins. With triggers
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Or
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3
Was +7u
So playing dozens and columns for 180 spins would be around +14u
Thats worth playing
Quote from: Mattjono88 on Jan 18, 07:55 PM 2018
So lets say on average you get 6 wins every 200 spins playing both dozens and columns.
You would have to play with starting units 10 (800u total) to make it a worthwhile profit of +60
Again thats an option Matt.
You could play the percentage game and just bet $20 a game that the streak ends at 4. Or $40. 20 on each dozen or column. Either way you will win.
And when you win 3 times in a row. You could lower your stakes. So when you lose. It cuts into your profits less. This you have control over.
Just tested on 180 spins playing dozens and columns the repeating way and the farthest back way. Giving me 4 different triggers for a bet.
Session 1.
+17u
Just had a loss playing the furthest back way i suggested.
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So just sticking to the normal trigger
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Quote from: Mattjono88 on Jan 19, 07:48 AM 2018
Just had a loss playing the furthest back way i suggested.
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So just sticking to the normal trigger
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Matt when you have a solid system. STICK TO IT. Casinos love impatient people. They rely on them to keep getting richer. I would rather bet once a day knowing I will definately finish the year with a healthy profit. Than try to win too much too quickly and end up taking a hammering.
And ultimately losing money. Be PATIENT. And you will win.
👍
Going to play this for real soon dozens 1-12, 13-24...ect and the H/Ls.
Dozens (Wait 4)
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*
*
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1-1 +1
3-3. +1.
9-9. +1. (26u)
H/L (wait 5)
*
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*
*
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1. +1
2. +1
4. +1
8. +1. (15u)
41 units total to start. Ill let you know how i get on.
Thanks
Quote from: Apolloo on Jan 22, 07:50 PM 2018
Going to play this for real soon dozens 1-12, 13-24...ect and the H/Ls.
Dozens (Wait 4)
*
*
*
*
1-1 +1
3-3. +1.
9-9. +1. (26u)
H/L (wait 5)
*
*
*
*
*
1. +1
2. +1
4. +1
8. +1. (15u)
41 units total to start. Ill let you know how i get on.
Thanks
A word of caution on this Apolloo.
I was testing the vertical dozens and it looked good for a while then I saw this in one day
23
24
13
15
20
16
22
19
16
30
30
31
29
25
27
34
The same with the even chances. I recorded a vertical streak of no less than 17 lows last week.
The trick with the vertical matrix as Atlantis suggested is to play in a sniping fashion where you play for a 5 or 6 streak win or lose you leave it alone and retrack.
So you saying wait for.
2
2
2
2
2. Bet 1-1 next on 1and3
2. Loss.
Wait for new trigger
1
1
1
1
1 Bet 3-3 on. 2and3
3 Win
Thanks.
Quote from: Apolloo on Jan 23, 04:14 AM 2018
So you saying wait for.
2
2
2
2
2. Bet 1-1 next on 1and3
2. Loss.
Wait for new trigger
1
1
1
1
1 Bet 3-3 on. 2and3
3 Win
Thanks.
Yes. You look to make an overall profit. Not chase down.a losing streak. With the evens money bets. I like the idea of bettting against 5 and 6s. As they will dominate a field of streaks beyond 4.
Thanks God and Good Morning All.
Quote from: Andre Chass on Feb 27, 11:24 AM 2018
I don't bet against
BBB or PPP or BPB or PBP
Everybody knows the reasons. If you have experience playing roulette you know what I'm talking about.
I wait for BPP or PBB appears twice in a row then I bet against it.
BBP and PPB I play the same way above.
I use 1, 1, 3 progression. So if I have a loss I need only five wins for recovery.
I only play my version of pattern breaker playing baccarat. No zero, no dealer cheats, less variance.
I don't play hit and run. I stop playing only when I'm tired (about two hours playing). The game is stressful and requires a lot of concentration, discipline and patience.
If you have a loss accept it and don't try to recover at once
I track 6 tables at the same time.
It's important to watch the previous games.
That's the way I play that's the way I like it.
Cheers
I think this idea by Andre Chass and cht is superb.
So I am using 3 wide matrix and when get two same patterns back to back, I bet against it to form again.
Using only these 4 patterns as suggested above:
HLL
LHH
HHL
LLH
For example
12, 9, 32
14, 8, 26
Now bet against
11, 23 won on 2nd step.
Testing is going on.
Thanks Andre Cht, JL, 6th sense and seniors.
Regards,
SugTips
4 games of AC system played, all 4 won at bmc. Thank you Andre
Quote from: sugtips on Mar 01, 07:09 AM 2018
Thanks God and Good Morning All.
I think this idea by Andre Chass and cht is superb.
So I am using 3 wide matrix and when get two same patterns back to back, I bet against it to form again.
Using only these 4 patterns as suggested above:
HLL
LHH
HHL
LLH
For example
12, 9, 32
14, 8, 26
Now bet against
11, 23 won on 2nd step.
Testing is going on.
Thanks Andre Cht, JL, 6th sense and seniors.
Regards,
SugTips
:thumbsup:
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Quote from: sugtips on Mar 02, 08:52 AM 2018
4 games of AC system played, all 4 won at bmc. Thank you Andre