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Title: Holy Grail
Post by: nottophammer on Mar 09, 04:36 AM 2018
The Holy Grail has existed from day one of the game being conceived.

The only reason its never been used is because the wagers are cleared every time, to rebet was available from day one, but the HG requires all previous bets to be wagered and if no win or profit gained, then all wagers have to be replaced each time, imagine replacing all units say after 16 spins, trying to remember where the number had 3 units and others with 2 units and (in top dogs world, " it has to be playable at the table",DUH).

But as tech has come on and we don't have to sit at the table anymore (DUH,top dog) we can at the touchscreen just press rebet.

Now thats as far as i'm going to reveal the HOLY GRAIL.

Oh alright a clue TG mentions it, and one of his students mentioned it, that student being Eddy.

If i told you how to play the HG and it can only be played courtesy of modern tech, touchscreen, then the casino's would remove them, it would then be back to old school, making tables busy and slowing down the stupid spins of 30 seconds, but the HG would not be doable.  :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: nottophammer on Mar 09, 04:40 AM 2018
Here's a clue to HG
1
3
34
24
28
0
0 - R
16
25
18

Why is that HG?
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: nottophammer on Mar 09, 04:43 AM 2018
(https://www.rouletteforum.cc/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pichost.org%2Fimages%2F2018%2F03%2F09%2Ftemp_651307.png&hash=0105d14ca4eddf821ecde3296842f374) (http://www.pichost.org/image/GDPA0)

The HG
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: nottophammer on Mar 09, 04:47 AM 2018
(https://www.rouletteforum.cc/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pichost.org%2Fimages%2F2018%2F03%2F09%2Ftemp_822011.png&hash=c77ed62fa75ac59bbaa707342d03260a) (http://www.pichost.org/image/GDg7H)

As Mort supplied them, HG is there.

But what if it looked like this

(https://www.rouletteforum.cc/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pichost.org%2Fimages%2F2018%2F03%2F09%2Ftemp_793097.png&hash=65fa9074e5de0c1318089d1ece291f80) (http://www.pichost.org/image/GDqxU)
HG not there
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: nottophammer on Mar 09, 04:50 AM 2018
Now HG is there courtesy of touchscreen rebet.

No more from me, just think about bet every spin, :smile:

(https://www.rouletteforum.cc/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pichost.org%2Fimages%2F2018%2F03%2F09%2Ftemp_261057.png&hash=3de85742f0e9fa1aec6a1df1be1aeb75) (http://www.pichost.org/image/GDHBg)
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: nottophammer on Mar 09, 05:14 AM 2018
(https://www.rouletteforum.cc/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pichost.org%2Fimages%2F2018%2F03%2F09%2Ftemp_142882.png&hash=1074bc079fe9b5eba089e1e0bf110e75) (http://www.pichost.org/image/GD8kV)

The HG courtesy of touchscreen
41 spins 29 non-hit had come way to fast, should only had about 25
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: jekhb76 on Mar 09, 09:36 AM 2018
Just play Every repeater with a bankroll of 10.000 units 1/5/25 progression. No way you would lose. Reset everytime when at a new High.
100 euro for 1 cent base bet.
1000 euro for 10 cent base bet.
10000 euro for 1 euro base bet.

Once a 25 unit number hits remove it and continue.
I can't play it on rs, because i Have only 3000 units, but on paper it hasn't lost yet. Tested now for More then 20.000 spins. Try it. No need for systems, Just go with the game and you Will Always be at a new High sometime.
Trust me, when you are playing this online, the casino won't be happy with you and a ban belongs to the possibility. I've been there..
This even won't lose on rng. I havrade alot of money out of it allready and cashed out a few times.e now. Even with 1 cent base bet, the profits Will skyrise in notime.
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: Lucky7Red on Mar 09, 09:49 AM 2018
Here's a clue to HG
1
3
34
24
28
0
0 - R
16
25
18

Why is that HG?
Because in next 29 spins we will have 18 non hits.
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: Roulettebeater on Mar 09, 09:50 AM 2018
Just play Every repeater with a bankroll of 10.000 units 1/5/25 progression. No way you would lose. Reset everytime when at a new High.
100 euro for 1 cent base bet.
1000 euro for 10 cent base bet.
10000 euro for 1 euro base bet.

Once a 25 unit number hits remove it and continue.
I can't play it on rs, because i Have only 3000 units, but on paper it hasn't lost yet. Tested now for More then 20.000 spins. Try it. No need for systems, Just go with the game and you Will Always be at a new High sometime.
Trust me, when you are playing this online, the casino won't be happy with you and a ban belongs to the possibility. I've been there..
This even won't lose on rng. I havrade alot of money out of it allready and cashed out a few times.e now. Even with 1 cent base bet, the profits Will skyrise in notime.

Are you sure ?
I have huge number of spins and can make extended tests, please write down step by step how does your system work and I ll test it and tell u the result
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: jekhb76 on Mar 09, 09:54 AM 2018
Are you sure ?
I have huge number of spins and can make extended tests, please write down step by step how does your system work and I ll test it and give u the result
That doesn't matter. Even when we have alot of numbers on board, repeaters Will come and when a 25 chip number hits 2 or 3 Times in a row and losses are brought Back to profits again. I Have had as much as 17 repeaters on board with a 7 or 8 or so 25 chip ones, i was Back around -2000 or so and then they came 2 3 4 hits on the 25 chip numbers Nd i Made a huge profit again.
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: jekhb76 on Mar 09, 09:57 AM 2018
Are you sure ?
I have huge number of spins and can make extended tests, please write down step by step how does your system work and I ll test it and tell u the result
Start betting once a repeater Comes along and place a 1u chip on it. Repeat this progress until a. Your at a new High, then start over or B. Not at a new High, then we place a 5u chip on the hit one. Etc etc. Once you Have a number with a 25 chip on it and get a hit, remove that number and proceed. Don't be dissapointed when you Have a Large number of chips on board, Just Keep goin' you'll See.
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: jekhb76 on Mar 09, 10:03 AM 2018
Lately i only play 1 cent rng and Yes i know what you All say, but als rng gives me repeaters, and that's All i need.
I play with a 500 euro bank that's 50.000 units with a 1/5/25/50/100 progression , i Have Made alot of money by doin' so and it got me three bans up till now. Like i say, the casino's don't like these kind of plays. Have fun testing , it won't fail.
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: Gzgzbee on Mar 09, 10:19 AM 2018
Nice...I will test.

Just to confirm

Step 1 - wait for a repeater. (I.e 35)
Step 2- now bet 1u on 35
Step 3 - ?? When do I have up my 1u to 5u, 25u?

Then keep adding when another repeater come out if I’m not at a new high.



Thanks

Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: Roulettebeater on Mar 09, 10:22 AM 2018
Lately i only play 1 cent rng and Yes i know what you All say, but als rng gives me repeaters, and that's All i need.
I play with a 500 euro bank that's 50.000 units with a 1/5/25/50/100 progression , i Have Made alot of money by doin' so and it got me three bans up till now. Like i say, the casino's don't like these kind of plays. Have fun testing , it won't fail.

What if you collect previous 50 spins and filter them, the numbers that hit more than once you bet them all at once ???
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: jekhb76 on Mar 09, 10:37 AM 2018
Nice...I will test.

Just to confirm

Step 1 - wait for a repeater. (I.e 35)
Step 2- now bet 1u on 35
Step 3 - ?? When do I have up my 1u to 5u, 25u?

Then keep adding when another repeater come out if I’m not at a new high.



Thanks
You only raise a number on a hit when not in profit, otherwise No raising.
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: jekhb76 on Mar 09, 10:37 AM 2018
What if you collect previous 50 spins and filter them, the numbers that hit more than once you bet them all at once ???
Didn't try that one yet.
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: jekhb76 on Mar 09, 10:38 AM 2018
I Have now played over More then 500games with the above and not lost yet.
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: Bigbroben on Mar 09, 10:53 AM 2018
I thought you'd be stressed of being exposed with chips all over the board every spin...  Are you comfortable digging yourself down 2000 units before breaking even/new high?

Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: Gzgzbee on Mar 09, 11:06 AM 2018
Ok...

So you just keep adding the repeater at 1u pre repeater.

When the repeater hits i should be in profit...if not I but 5u on the repeaters and remove the repeater that just won!

And so on to 25u
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: Roulettebeater on Mar 09, 11:13 AM 2018
I Have now played over More then 500games with the above and not lost yet.

Great, stick to it, if it's working !


Well, in 37 spins you will often see 6 numbers that hit more than once, 3 of them are hit more than two times, that's a rough approximation though !

 Anyway, what progression are you using ?
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: holymoly on Mar 09, 11:15 AM 2018
@JEKHB76
What casino do you play at for,1c??
Thanks!
 :smile:
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: Roulettebeater on Mar 09, 11:21 AM 2018
@JEKHB76
What casino do you play at for,1c??
Thanks!
 :smile:

1 cents ?
RNG at William jail ?

If you want to get screwed go play at Willam jail !
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: holymoly on Mar 09, 11:38 AM 2018
I live in the USA
So betting restrictions
(Since 08)

We also have to bed in by 9pm
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: Roulettebeater on Mar 09, 11:43 AM 2018
I live in the USA
So betting restrictions
(Since 08)

We also have to bed in by 9pm


Really ?
Then you don't need to play roulette because winners play roulette only after 09.00 pm, losers play before 09.00 pm
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: Roulettebeater on Mar 09, 11:48 AM 2018
Jekhb:

Your method is not different than turbo's method

The only difference is that you play for living, while turbo plays for fortune

:)
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: jekhb76 on Mar 09, 12:02 PM 2018
Great, stick to it, if it's working !


Well, in 37 spins you will often see 6 numbers that hit more than once, 3 of them are hit more than two times, that's a rough approximation though !

 Anyway, what progression are you using ?

With a 500 euro (50.000) bankroll i play a 1/5/25/50/100 progression.
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: jekhb76 on Mar 09, 12:03 PM 2018
Jekhb:

Your method is not different than turbo's method

The only difference is that you play for living, while turbo plays for fortune

:)
Don't know if Turbo plays the same, still waiting for a reply from him.
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: jekhb76 on Mar 09, 12:04 PM 2018
Ok...

So you just keep adding the repeater at 1u pre repeater.

When the repeater hits i should be in profit...if not I but 5u on the repeaters and remove the repeater that just won!

And so on to 25u
No, i only remove the 25 chip ones when hit.
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: jekhb76 on Mar 09, 12:07 PM 2018
I thought you'd be stressed of being exposed with chips all over the board every spin...  Are you comfortable digging yourself down 2000 units before breaking even/new high?
No i'm not ever stressed. Even with 2000 -. Because with my 50.000 unit bankroll i won't lose, maybe even stretcher to 100.000 (1000 euro) units.
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: ZERO on Mar 09, 12:07 PM 2018
Ok...

So you just keep adding the repeater at 1u pre repeater.

When the repeater hits i should be in profit...if not I but 5u on the repeaters and remove the repeater that just won!

And so on to 25u

Gz, the way I understand Jek`s method is you place 1 unit on every repeater that comes up. If you get a hit and your balance is at a new high you restart or carry on leaving everything as is. If you get a hit and your balance is not at a new high you raise the number that hit to 5 units and leave the rest as is. If eventually you have numbers that have progressed to 25 units and they hit you remove them and carry on with the other numbers unless you are in profit after the hit in which case you would restart...

Please correct me if I`m wrong Jek?
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: jekhb76 on Mar 09, 12:12 PM 2018
Gz, the way I understand Jek`s method is you place 1 unit on every repeater that comes up. If you get a hit and your balance is at a new high you restart or carry on leaving everything as is. If you get a hit and your balance is not at a new high you raise the number that hit to 5 units and leave the rest as is. If eventually you have numbers that have progressed to 25 units and they hit you remove them and carry on with the other numbers unless you are in profit after the hit in which case you would restart...

Please correct me if I`m wrong Jek?
Yes almost Right. Only thing is, i Always restart on a new High ! How Small it May sometimes be. Always reset. The only numbers that are bei'n raised are the ones that are hit An you are not in profit. And only remove the 25 chip one when not at a new High or you got raise it to 50/100 like i do.
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: jekhb76 on Mar 09, 12:12 PM 2018
Please can someone here prove that this won't work?
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: ZERO on Mar 09, 12:25 PM 2018
Jek I know it works well because I have been doing the same thing with the only difference that I add 1 unit to all the repeaters I am playing after every spin and restart when my balance is at new high...  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: jekhb76 on Mar 09, 12:45 PM 2018
Jek I know it works well because I have been doing the same thing with the only difference that I add 1 unit to all the repeaters I am playing after every spin and restart when my balance is at new high...  :thumbsup:
That play requares a much higher bankroll then my 50.000 units.
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: Lucky7Red on Mar 09, 12:48 PM 2018
It really makes me Mad, when i send a few Nice emails and not one respons yet from Turbo. I Have expllained exactly what i was doin' regarding his System and asked if i was on the Right track or totaly off. Not one reply.
Or i'm really close or he doesn't care. Pfffff well atleats you can reply can't he?
You should not reveal hg system, turbo is disappointed.
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: jekhb76 on Mar 09, 12:51 PM 2018
You should not reveal hg system, turbo is disappointed.
I didn't reveil anything , i Just sended him my way of playing nothing More and asked if i'm close or far off !
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: jekhb76 on Mar 09, 12:54 PM 2018
With my bankroll i can even play a 1/5/25/50/100/250 progression and not even close to Table limits.
The only problem is that this is hard to play at a bm casino, duo to the many betts bein' places at the same Time.
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: jekhb76 on Mar 09, 12:56 PM 2018
@JEKHB76
What casino do you play at for,1c??
Thanks!
 :smile:
There are many online casino s that offer 1 cent rng play Just Google . I don't reveiline because i Hot bannend from 3 others while playing my System and i'm affraid that when others start to play this System there also i Will be banned again real soon.
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: jekhb76 on Mar 09, 12:57 PM 2018
Further more, i don't care what others day about rng, i never got any trouble playing it. And remembet like i said many Times before, as Long as i get repeaters, i can't loose. Nope not even on rng.
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: Roulettebeater on Mar 09, 01:03 PM 2018
Further more, i don't care what others day about rng, i never got any trouble playing it. And remembet like i said many Times before, as Long as i get repeaters, i can't loose. Nope not even on rng.

You are too early at drawing conclusions, RNG can be manipulated, you are risking too much money on the table, what if one day they wan to slaughter your bankroll by cheating the RNG outcomes ? They can do that, it will be a disaster for you... be careful
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: ZERO on Mar 09, 01:04 PM 2018
That play requares a much higher bankroll then my 50.000 units.

It doesn`t because I only start betting on 3rd time repeaters.
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: jekhb76 on Mar 09, 01:07 PM 2018
You are too early at drawing conclusions, RNG can be manipulated, you are risking too much money on the table, what if one day they wan to slaughter your bankroll by cheating the RNG outcomes ? They can do that, it will be a disaster for you... be careful
Even if they do that, then it won't Hurt me anymore.
It has been a very long time since i played withy own money.
For the last year the casino's are working for me, not the other way around. I never play with my own money anymore. That days has passed a Long Long Time ago.
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: jekhb76 on Mar 09, 01:10 PM 2018
They are feeling better about them self by Banning me, what Will happen for sure when someone like me playing something like that.
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: holymoly on Mar 09, 01:46 PM 2018
JEKHB76
The key is having a big bankroll

Which you clearly have.

Keep it going dude.



Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: Roulettebeater on Mar 09, 01:49 PM 2018
I thought this a new system of yours, now u say u have been playing it since long time !

Not that you showing off here you lucky boy!
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: jekhb76 on Mar 09, 01:51 PM 2018
I thought this a new system of yours, now u say u have been playing it since long time !

Not that you showing off here you lucky boy!
No it's not a new System, i play many systems, because i like to experiment with it. But i Always turn Back to those that Make me money. Now i'm bussy with turbo's grail.
And as Long as i Make between 75-100 euro a day i don't need a normal dayjob  :wink:
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: PassionRuleta on Mar 09, 02:06 PM 2018
Hola, llevo tiempo intentando poder publicar y no salen mis publicaciones, nose porque no puedo..
Pero quiero decir que yo e pillado totalmente lo que hace turbo y no es exactamente eso, porque eso que haces es lo el explica en muchos sitios.
Lo que hace el es algo mucho más refinado i avanzado y que el lo dice bien claro, fijaros en el contador geiger y mirar bien que sucede y os daréis cuenta de lo que pasa.
Vais bien encaminados pero os faltan unas cuantas horas más de estudio.
Saludos :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: holymoly on Mar 09, 03:28 PM 2018
Translation


Swap to Spanish
Hi, I've been trying to publish for some time and my publications do not come out, I do not know why I can not ..
But I want to say that I totally caught what turbo does and it's not exactly that, because what you do is what he explains in many places.
What he does is something much more refined and advanced and he says it very clearly, look at the geiger counter and see what happens and you will realize what is happening.
You are well on your way but you have a few more hours of study.
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: Gzgzbee on Mar 09, 04:11 PM 2018
jekhb76

How long are you playing for to win 75-100?

Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: jekhb76 on Mar 10, 01:52 AM 2018
jekhb76

How long are you playing for to win 75-100?
Not very long. I Always play in parts during the day. Mostly in 8 or 9 sessions.
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: boyd30 on Mar 10, 07:11 AM 2018
It can be about this how jekhb76 plays: Do 37 spins. Start bet on all repeaters. But I don't know how the progression goes and that's very important.
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: Roulettebeater on Mar 10, 01:43 PM 2018
Translation


Swap to Spanish
Hi, I've been trying to publish for some time and my publications do not come out, I do not know why I can not ..
But I want to say that I totally caught what turbo does and it's not exactly that, because what you do is what he explains in many places.
What he does is something much more refined and advanced and he says it very clearly, look at the geiger counter and see what happens and you will realize what is happening.
You are well on your way but you have a few more hours of study.

Happy winning, i saw you today winning a lot of money on unibet.
your username is  BLACKMOLLY82

Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: Lucky7Red on Mar 10, 04:02 PM 2018
He is affiliate spammer.
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: Roulettebeater on Mar 11, 05:15 AM 2018
He is affiliate spammer.

He was winning 8000 euro each spin !
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: Lucky7Red on Mar 11, 08:27 AM 2018
He is casino employee, don't be silly.
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: Gzgzbee on Mar 11, 11:17 AM 2018
What’s the difference between jekhb76 method and turbo method??

There is talk about turbo method?
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: romano0327 on Mar 11, 11:53 PM 2018
Thank you for sharing your method with us JEKHB76, I will start testing it myself,  I would like to ask you a question though.  Lets say thag you are betting 5 numbers and one of them hits but you are not at a new high,  so you increase the unit size on the number that hit. My question is,   do you remove the other 4 numbers that you where betting or do you continue to bet them also with the lower bet size that they had already?

 
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: Iain on Mar 12, 12:56 AM 2018
I really wanted to believe this would work, so I wrote a program to simulate the betting.  It failed with a total bank wipeout on several occasions.

The problem was betting 25 units on numbers that hit 4 times, with multiple numbers having 25 unit bets and some with 5 unit bets then if numbers with 1 unit bets hit it would hardly make an impression on the total wager for the spin. I think there needs to be some method to reduce the number of bets per spin and not let it get out of control. One of the simulations had over 500 spins which ended with 10 numbers having 25 unit bets and a total of 29 numbers covered. This was done with a bank of 10,000 units and 25 units max bet.

Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: jekhb76 on Mar 12, 03:16 AM 2018
Thank you for sharing your method with us JEKHB76, I will start testing it myself,  I would like to ask you a question though.  Lets say thag you are betting 5 numbers and one of them hits but you are not at a new high,  so you increase the unit size on the number that hit. My question is,   do you remove the other 4 numbers that you where betting or do you continue to bet them also with the lower bet size that they had already?
No i would Keep them for now. Because on a hit, maybe they won't give you profit Right away, but they decrease your loss on a hit until the bigger ones got hit and you are at a new High. Or like i said in the other new thread, you can also give each number hisnown 37 spin cycle and remove them when not hit within it.
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: Lucky7Red on Mar 12, 02:33 PM 2018
What’s the difference between jekhb76 method and turbo method??

There is talk about turbo method?
No difference, jekhb76 has cracked turbos method and that is why turbo not responding, he stil can't believe his eyes.
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: Roulettebeater on Mar 12, 02:57 PM 2018
No difference, jekhb76 has cracked turbos method and that is why turbo not responding, he stil can't believe his eyes.

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unbelievable, i finally won the jackpot on 7 red
 :lol:
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: Lucky7Red on Mar 12, 03:07 PM 2018
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unbelievable, i finally won the jackpot on 7 red
 :lol:
That a boy  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: Steve on Mar 12, 10:28 PM 2018
PASSIONRULETA, please post in English. I'm sure you use a translator to read posts, so please use it to POST so everyone can follow.
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: romano0327 on Mar 12, 11:30 PM 2018
PASSIONRULETA,  I sent you an inbox...

Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: Roulettebeater on Mar 13, 01:07 PM 2018
Passionruletta

We have only a few members who understand Spanish please post in Chinese
-;)
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: nottophammer on Mar 13, 02:13 PM 2018
高明
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: D1 on Mar 13, 02:46 PM 2018
确实非常聪明
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: nottophammer on Mar 13, 02:57 PM 2018
确实非常聪明

Thanks
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: jekhb76 on Apr 23, 01:48 AM 2018
I thought you'd be stressed of being exposed with chips all over the board every spin...  Are you comfortable digging yourself down 2000 units before breaking even/new high?
Yes ofcourse! With 1 cent play, it isn't An issue. 2000 units is only 20 euro! And when you play with a bank of 500 euro, that's 50.000 units, don't See a problem there. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: jekhb76 on Apr 23, 02:54 AM 2018
Jek I know it works well because I have been doing the same thing with the only difference that I add 1 unit to all the repeaters I am playing after every spin and restart when my balance is at new high...  :thumbsup:
Good morning,
I thought i would give your method a go, Just for fun to See where it leads.
Well not a plesant road to travel.
I got my First 4s on spin 69, by that time i had More then 50 units on one single number and 5 More withore then 30 units. And was at a debt of More then 2500 units. And when one got hit, to be a 4 it wasn't jumping in the Air of joy, because i was still way behind in debt.
So i don't know how you play this, but this can't be fun for you also.
I played every 3s that came and raised every spin on All 3s. Did you put the same amount of chips on other 3s when they came? Example #1 had 27 chips on him and now Comes a new 3s. Do you put also 27 spins on that number? And continue? Or everytime a new 3s would come you start with 1 chip on the newest and remain the chips on the rest? Curious.
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: PassionRuleta on Apr 23, 03:29 AM 2018
Romano, I did not get any messages in my inbox ...
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: jekhb76 on Apr 23, 10:44 AM 2018
With All respect, i personaly believe the best System on this Forum is the KTF Method by NOTTOPHAMMER!
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: jekhb76 on Apr 23, 10:50 AM 2018
I also Love the one that was posted by Denzie a while ago.
Always bet the two hottest numbers and switch numbers when others become hotter.
Reset when a good profit is reached.
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: Bigbroben on Apr 23, 11:07 AM 2018
Can you send a link, or tell what criterias are used to choose/ dump a nr?
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: jekhb76 on Apr 23, 11:40 AM 2018
Can you send a link, or tell what criterias are used to choose/ dump a nr?
Don't Have a link.
And i don' remember how it went precisie anymore. What i do remember is that i had some good winnings with it and that it wins more then it loses.
If i remember corectly it was wait until you Have two numbers that were Standing out above the rest. And switch numbers anytime a new one had More hits, and Delete the oldest one. Raise only when a number keeps performing above average. At some Point you Will notice that some numbers are way ahead above the rest. These are your Golden eggs. Reset at a Decent profit or whatever your wingoal is.
This method is al about flatbet and two numbers! Always a good thing, when these two Cross paths.  :thumbsup:

We have to ask Denzie the precisie rules, because i can say something but that doesn't Mean i remember it well enough to give you All the information you need.
So den, can you Help?  :question:
Cheers,
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: jekhb76 on Apr 23, 11:45 AM 2018
Found it.
To bad, he didn't get any More responses, because i thought it was a good way of playing and it proved it also, like i said i had some good wins with it.
Subject was: TWO TOWERS.

This is what Denzie wrote;

Yesterday I've been messing around in RX and I continuously let it run for 300 spins. Pretty fast my eye caught something. Mostly there's always couple of numbers that hit more than the average. Like 9-17 times in 200 spins.

So I decided to do few tests. Lol. I ended up doing 100 tests . Won 83 and 17 was around break even.

I started betting the 2 numbers that got the most hits . Anytime another one hits more I would then bet on that/those numbers. Iaw just follow the 2 hottest numbers. (Flat)

In the first 50 spins it's bit chaos. But after that it's becoming more clear which one will shoot up. If one or two really hit then I add one more chip. If it's staying hot for another +/-50 spins I add another chip. Mostly by spin 200 you're already got what you need. Coz then that rtm start to kick in. But I let it run to see how long we can bet those super hot numbers.

I will do more testing but looks good.
Anytime we got more then 2 numbers to bet then I stop betting till we got 2 hotties again. This happens mainly at the start.

Cheers.
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: jekhb76 on Apr 23, 11:52 AM 2018
I remember now how i was playing at that time.
I wait until i Have 2 3s, then started with 1 chip on those  two and Let it ride. Whenever i got another 3, i would replaced the oldest one with the newest one and continue. Once a 4s steped in i would bet 1 chip extra on that 4th and held the same on the rest. And continued to add and Delete as the 3s came.
Etc.
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: denzie on Apr 23, 12:36 PM 2018
That one became "Magic 8"

To much chaos in the beginning. So i only play those real super hotties.
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: jekhb76 on Apr 23, 12:38 PM 2018
That one became "Magic 8"

To much chaos in the beginning. So i only play those real super hotties.
Thanks for you quick respons! Ok, then we will dig up MAGIC 8 AGAIN!
it's been a while while i played that one. Did you change anything up till now?
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: denzie on Apr 23, 12:44 PM 2018
Thanks for you quick respons! Ok, then we will dig up MAGIC 8 AGAIN!
it's been a while while i played that one. Did you change anything up till now?

No, kept it that way.

Since your a regular at the casino...which one you go to ? Holland casino ? And did you try some basic vb already ?
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: jekhb76 on Apr 23, 12:58 PM 2018
No, kept it that way.

Since your a regular at the casino...which one you go to ? Holland casino ? And did you try some basic vb already ?
Yes, Holland Casino. No i don't know how  to play it
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: The General on Apr 23, 12:59 PM 2018
Denzie,

Why don't you teach him?
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: denzie on Apr 23, 01:02 PM 2018
Denzie,

Why don't you teach him?

I know only basics. Cant match your level
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: jekhb76 on Apr 23, 01:10 PM 2018
I know only basics. Cant match your level
we woud like to learn from the general
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: PassionRuleta on Apr 23, 04:25 PM 2018
This seems to start walking little by little along another path a little better, it is not necessary that it be only 2 numbers, it can be 4 or 6 or 8 ...
And you can do it with the numbers that go up, as you can do with some fixed ones, the failure is in the progression of a chip, make it minimum 1-3-9. : thumbsup:
But all this is based on something of nuclear physics as I said jekh ...

If the subject is put like that, I also participate if you give me your permission.

greetings, I encourage you to get it jekh
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: ozon on Apr 23, 06:25 PM 2018
I know that this is a roulette forum
  But I do not know why some years go by to find HG
People like Ignatus, lose their lives over something that is not real.
Only some are able to achieve profits through roulette.
MOney wasted on testing and bad beliefs are great.
I do not want to interrupt Steve

But after a few months, I am able to earn money on forex, where I earn a flat bet.
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: ozon on Apr 23, 06:27 PM 2018
Everyone wants to do something impossible, but why.
If someone wants to do it for money, there are really simpler ways
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: Gitano on Apr 23, 08:11 PM 2018
..HUGE Master Nottophammer! :xd: 8) 8)
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: PassionRuleta on Apr 23, 09:36 PM 2018
There are two people who know they achieve it and have a holy grail and I am acquiring it and I am indifferent what they think, I am earning it based on effort, I have been 12 years and now if I see that I am achieving it.
I respect some people like those who play that kind of game KTF WTF AND GUT, they go super well routed but they lack a super important point so that their game is perfect and is what VADDIS does, it is a level more advanced than they they make it based on something else, nuclear physics, a very important law in those games ...
I advise people who use this game to study VADDIS.
Health
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: nottophammer on Apr 26, 05:53 AM 2018
I have huge number of spins and can make extended tests, please write down step by step how does your system work and I ll test it and tell u the result

I see your still here, has no one sent you there HG, a question do you think the HG has to win every time, or is it win more times than lose.

(https://www.rouletteforum.cc/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pichost.org%2Fimages%2F2018%2F04%2F26%2Ftemp_358149.png&hash=aaa77e72e8b024bffef5bf373135f083) (http://www.pichost.org/image/sS9tS)

winning 124,843  the question is; that bankroll its not all winnings, so does this count as a HG
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: nottophammer on Apr 26, 06:01 AM 2018
(https://www.rouletteforum.cc/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pichost.org%2Fimages%2F2018%2F04%2F26%2Ftemp_632646.png&hash=2d206330a7c191be349a8906bed3a455) (http://www.pichost.org/image/sS3lg)

Now this player is still using the original 1000 units bankroll; growing; perhaps here is the HG, we could ask Steve he probably watching this player to see if an HG

Its all about win rate 1.22;  above 1.02 early days  :xd:

(https://www.rouletteforum.cc/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pichost.org%2Fimages%2F2018%2F04%2F26%2Ftemp_761271.png&hash=b101b91122d17a1d2d987ed2f79cfd3c) (http://www.pichost.org/image/sSXtf)

Remember it's in the Humor thread  :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: nottophammer on Apr 26, 06:03 AM 2018
Gf

is this where Notto's going to end up  >:D
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: Steve on Apr 26, 06:06 AM 2018
No they could have reset bankroll many times. But they cant hide the other stats.

They rank poorly because of their relative short term results.

I have no idea what your point is notto.
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: Steve on Apr 26, 06:07 AM 2018
If you keep trolling and deliberately making trouble, yes thats where the rejects hang out. Thats why its so quiet there.

The two most popular topics there relate to me and what happens here or other forums. Thats a problem for that forum. Please dont troll here.
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: nottophammer on Apr 26, 06:22 AM 2018
If you keep trolling and deliberately making trouble, yes thats where the rejects hang out.
Well before you ban me i've learnt a lot from Winkel and now TG.

(https://www.rouletteforum.cc/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pichost.org%2Fimages%2F2018%2F04%2F26%2Ftemp_160230.png&hash=27aa193d2d5b1be6000ee776816bf01c) (http://www.pichost.org/image/sSLgD)

Member Nextyear; +141; i'll keep testing

Steve did you not see i started this thread in the Humour section, so treat it as humour, where have i trolled in here its Humour after all

Freedom of speech under attack??
   
   

Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: Steve on Apr 26, 06:38 AM 2018
Notto im just really scared someones gonna find the secrets of yours and turbos hg. If that happens, my life will be over.

Please, stop posting your meaningful and statistically relevant charts. Each  one is like a dagger in my backside.

If your secrets are out, i will need a loan for even fish and chips because nobody will want my scam technology. I wont make another dollar. Please sir notto, think of me and my rumbling tummy.
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: Steve on Apr 26, 06:47 AM 2018
And notto you were moderated because you posted a big gross photo of a vagina. Im sure someone's breakfast was ruined. We all love them but few of us actually want to take a closer look. I mean girls think WE are the ones with a weird alien thing down there. I rest my case..

(https://www.rouletteforum.cc/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F1.bp.blogspot.com%2F-wJy5sAv0IjA%2FTqFR-nVDL1I%2FAAAAAAAAAFE%2FY2P5-0Y9WDQ%2Fs1600%2Falien-face-hugger-1-1-posable-prop-figure-avp-predator-196eb.JPG&hash=b47a1dc72d6c15d57aa6c1bdb4529b1c)
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: Steve on Apr 26, 06:54 AM 2018
And leave skakus alone. He ranks higher because he has better than random win rate with much longer term. The other player, probably you, has much fewer and less relevant results, so cannot possibly be ranked higher.

Are short term winnings more relevant than longer term results which are better than random? Or are short term results quite meaningless and should be ignored?
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: nottophammer on Apr 26, 07:28 AM 2018
I have no idea what your point is notto.

In the real world you can not just get more bankroll, you need a method/system that uses 1 bankroll, if that bankroll dont build then that method /system dont work, so 16 resets is not going to happen in the real world.

16,000 oh the method just tanked, i'll just grab another reset/1000 from the little money left from having to sell the house, wife wont care shes gone.
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: Steve on Apr 26, 07:52 AM 2018
Ok so from now on, $1000 is the limit on mpr. If you go broke, stiff shit. Game over. Is that better notto?

Notto why are you wasting time on this? In real life, you can go back to the atm, get a loan, or come back after pay day. But you cant erase your past losses unless you win it back... just like mpr.

Its like youre trying to kick up a fuss when theres nothing to kick up.

Quote
wife wont care shes gone.

With that thing down there, probably a good thing.
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: Roulettebeater on Apr 26, 09:08 AM 2018
And notto you were moderated because you posted a big gross photo of a vagina. Im sure someone's breakfast was ruined. We all love them but few of us actually want to take a closer look. I mean girls think WE are the ones with a weird alien thing down there. I rest my case..

(https://www.rouletteforum.cc/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F1.bp.blogspot.com%2F-wJy5sAv0IjA%2FTqFR-nVDL1I%2FAAAAAAAAAFE%2FY2P5-0Y9WDQ%2Fs1600%2Falien-face-hugger-1-1-posable-prop-figure-avp-predator-196eb.JPG&hash=b47a1dc72d6c15d57aa6c1bdb4529b1c)

Looks like an allien's vagina

Steve, remove this picture immediately... it's too awful, I am sure most of men here will run away from their girls if this picture stays here

REMOVE IT
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: Roulettebeater on Apr 26, 09:14 AM 2018
And change the title of this thread from holy grail to pussy hell
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: ZERO on Apr 26, 09:17 AM 2018
And change the title of this thread from holy grail to pussy hell

 :xd: :xd: :xd: More like "The Woman`s Grail" the only other thing besides roulette that man can not figure out!  :xd: :xd: :xd:
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: Roulettebeater on Apr 26, 09:24 AM 2018
I'm sure if you tell Notto the roulette holygrail is deep inside that pussy, he will not hesitate to enter that hole
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: nottophammer on Apr 26, 12:08 PM 2018
Looks like an allien's vagina

Steve, remove this picture immediately... it's too awful, I am sure most of men here will run away from their girls if this picture stays here

REMOVE IT

Pussy
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: nottophammer on Apr 26, 12:46 PM 2018
(https://www.rouletteforum.cc/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pichost.org%2Fimages%2F2018%2F04%2F26%2Ftemp_352317.png&hash=b3bb5e346d1e89172f76ff91d11168b6) (http://www.pichost.org/image/sSiBA)

using above expectation, Hg early days.

There's 2 others who know how playing, guess Steve will be one, tracking the bets?
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: Steve on Apr 26, 05:32 PM 2018
Profit after 1000 spins. Awesome. No system has ever dome that before. Go get em notto.
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: nottophammer on Apr 26, 05:56 PM 2018
(https://www.rouletteforum.cc/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pichost.org%2Fimages%2F2018%2F04%2F26%2Ftemp_925312.png&hash=ee6ba777fd5cb8c01873d111586d513c) (http://www.pichost.org/image/sS8TL)

I'm trying Steve, oh yeah its bet selection, oh its 1/37
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: Steve on Apr 26, 06:05 PM 2018
Can you please stop creating multiple accounts so it looks like you're winning?
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: nottophammer on Apr 26, 06:57 PM 2018
Steve if this busts i get a new player and try with 1 bankroll

Just lost 2000+ because i went to far up the prog, but moved up the leaderboard for losing, makes sense :question:
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: Steve on Apr 26, 07:28 PM 2018
Because then your results are more relevant but still overall more positive. The algorithm was fully revealed before coding, to allow anyone to give input. It is fair and balanced. It is not accurate with low ranks because its impossible to rank accurately in short term
 But top ranks are most important, and  they are most accurate.
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: nottophammer on Apr 30, 01:47 PM 2018
There's 2 others who know how playing, guess Steve will be one, tracking the bets?

The other two,

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And the #26
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: Lucky7Red on Apr 30, 05:18 PM 2018
Ok this is bias wheel, where to find one with number 7?
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: PassionRuleta on Apr 30, 05:26 PM 2018
I would like to have some phrases of Mr. vaddis on this graph.
This is vaddis holy grail ?? I think so, gentlemen :lol: :twisted:
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: PassionRuleta on Apr 30, 05:26 PM 2018
(https://www.rouletteforum.cc/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pichost.org%2Fimages%2F2018%2F04%2F30%2Ftemp_851506.jpg&hash=a6bf4f84758f8e76fac0c844c6d90942) (http://www.pichost.org/image/sMqj9)
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: Bigbroben on Apr 30, 06:40 PM 2018
Is this your second graph after the one you posted in Vaddis tread, or you picked one that looked good?

It looks good nyway!
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: jekhb76 on May 01, 01:27 PM 2018
Looks good! Can you share your findings with All of us?
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: PassionRuleta on May 01, 01:44 PM 2018
No todas son tan faciles eee.
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Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: jekhb76 on May 01, 02:26 PM 2018
No todas son tan faciles eee.
(https://www.rouletteforum.cc/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pichost.org%2Fimages%2F2018%2F05%2F01%2Ftemp_367308.jpg&hash=1c05875bc3eab5ecf989e20c65c37ba6) (http://www.pichost.org/image/sQexo)
I know that not every session is easy, but until we don't know how to play it, we can't test it for ourselfs.
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: quos on Jul 30, 06:41 AM 2018
Hello PASSIONRULETA, How Can I contact with you? I'm a new member from Spain and my English is not very good. I apologize for orthographic errors I don´t see MP option on your profile.

On the other hand, could someone summarize easily how to play the system that JEF proposes here?

Thanks!!
Title: Re: Holy Grail
Post by: nichedelico on Nov 14, 09:49 AM 2018
Hello everyone! JEKHB76 Thanks for sharing, how it goes now your way to play? No loss? Thank you