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Title: Attention expert roulette players
Post by: Winner on Apr 08, 12:16 PM 2018
If you can bet 7000 placed bets  and win 4 %. Flat bet betting would you be content?
Title: Re: Attention expert roulette players
Post by: Winner on Apr 08, 01:02 PM 2018
I forgot to mention this is outside bets.
Title: Re: Attention expert roulette players
Post by: Winner on Apr 08, 06:16 PM 2018
I guess 4% is not good gamblers want more .
Title: Re: Attention expert roulette players
Post by: Steve on Apr 08, 08:30 PM 2018
If you had 4% edge on outside bets, it would be covert and good enough. But I would more be questioning is this a legitimate edge, or just the profit/loss result from a test?
Title: Re: Attention expert roulette players
Post by: Winner on Apr 08, 08:41 PM 2018
Quote from: Steve on Apr 08, 08:30 PM 2018
If you had 4% edge on outside bets, it would be covert and good enough. But I would more be questioning is this a legitimate edge, or just the profit/loss result from a test?
Profit/loss
Title: Re: Attention expert roulette players
Post by: Steve on Apr 08, 10:58 PM 2018
Then if its just a profit/loss test, you cant consider it an edge without a lot more data.

You could only consider it edge with a smaller amount of data if you fully understand and observe the cause and effect of wins/losses.
Title: Re: Attention expert roulette players
Post by: Winner on Apr 09, 09:12 AM 2018
Quote from: Steve on Apr 08, 10:58 PM 2018
Then if its just a profit/loss test, you cant consider it an edge without a lot more data.

You could only consider it edge with a smaller amount of data if you fully understand and observe the cause and effect of wins/losses.
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From my testing ,random events becomes more predictable with volume . 7000 placed bets to get 4% profit  is huge considering the payout less then 50% on even money.as far as data that isn't a an issue  you can see what's going on after about 100,000 trials so to do a million is unrealistic .
On average one can bet for 2/3 hours at a time then fatigue kicks in and you start to make mistakes .100 bets for that amount of hours is more then enough to make profit.

Title: Re: Attention expert roulette players
Post by: Roulettebeater on Apr 09, 09:27 AM 2018
Do you know that the hunting success rate of lions is strongly dependent on the number involved â€" a single lion hunting in daylight has a success rate of 17-19 per cent... and you come and wanna 100 % success rate ! sorry it's not possible
Title: Re: Attention expert roulette players
Post by: Winner on Apr 09, 09:32 AM 2018
Quote from: Roulettebeater on Apr 09, 09:27 AM 2018
Do you know that the hunting success rate of lions is strongly dependent on the number involved â€" a single lion hunting in daylight has a success rate of 17-19 per cent... and you come and wanna 100 % success rate ! sorry it's not possible

Its 100% if you know when to quit.
Title: Re: Attention expert roulette players
Post by: jekhb76 on Apr 09, 09:42 AM 2018
Quote from: Winner on Apr 09, 09:12 AM 2018
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From my testing ,random events becomes more predictable with volume . 7000 placed bets to get 4% profit  is huge considering the payout less then 50% on even money.as far as data that isn't a an issue  you can see what's going on after about 100,000 trials so to do a million is unrealistic .
On average one can bet for 2/3 hours at a time then fatigue kicks in and you start to make mistakes .100 bets for that amount of hours is more then enough to make profit.
I never play More then 2 hours a day and when i Have reached my daily goal of 100 euro or close to it, i quit for the day. Never had any problems.
Title: Re: Attention expert roulette players
Post by: Roulettebeater on Apr 09, 01:08 PM 2018
Quote from: jekhb76 on Apr 09, 09:42 AM 2018
I never play More then 2 hours a day and when i Have reached my daily goal of 100 euro or close to it, i quit for the day. Never had any problems.

Ok let me ask you this question
what if you feel lucky and win in one day 300, will you keep playing ?
Title: Re: Attention expert roulette players
Post by: Winner on Apr 09, 01:21 PM 2018
Quote from: Roulettebeater on Apr 09, 01:08 PM 2018
Ok let me ask you this question
what if you feel lucky and win in one day 300, will you keep playing ?
If you use the the birthday  parodox you would keep playing .
Title: Re: Attention expert roulette players
Post by: Winner on Apr 09, 05:44 PM 2018
If you take an even money bet ex.low / high and bet for a 6 spin cycle stop on a win using FTL bet selection looking for a repeat and do this for 10 cycles and see what kind of results you get after 600 spins and do this for 300000 more spins  you should get 5 losses in row min. Of 1 max of 7  and consistently around 4 .now that would be your golden nugget . 0/00 Include those in .0as low 00 as hi and take the loss.zeros don't make much of a difference .random is predictable when collecting a high volume of data . This is done flat bet with minor progression . This one is for free  .
Title: Re: Attention expert roulette players
Post by: Winner on Apr 10, 09:12 AM 2018
Well 4% is still good flat betting  .Steve the cause / effect   
1 have a good bet selection  and a simple one
2  have a wheel that spins once every 30 seconds .
Title: Re: Attention expert roulette players
Post by: atlantis on Apr 10, 09:21 AM 2018
Quote from: Winner on Apr 10, 09:12 AM 2018
Well 4% is still good flat betting  .Steve the cause / effect   
1 have a good bet selection  and a simple one
2  have a wheel that spins once every 30 seconds .

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This is done flat bet with minor progression . This one is for free.

Please explain more on the progression you use. Thanks.

A.
Title: Re: Attention expert roulette players
Post by: Winner on Apr 10, 09:50 AM 2018
Quote from: atlantis on Apr 10, 09:21 AM 2018
Please explain more on the progression you use. Thanks.

A.
Progression only happens when the bet loses after about 60 spins flat betting and you up the deficit .1 2 4. Simple 
Title: Re: Attention expert roulette players
Post by: jekhb76 on Apr 10, 10:28 AM 2018
Quote from: Roulettebeater on Apr 09, 01:08 PM 2018
Ok let me ask you this question
what if you feel lucky and win in one day 300, will you keep playing ?
No, i won't. I would Have stopped Long before that.
Title: Re: Attention expert roulette players
Post by: Winner on Apr 10, 10:32 AM 2018
Here's a good ? Did the casinos design any games to make you win there money.
Then why is it that people keep trying to find a bet that beats them .
Bet the game like it was intended Bet for it to lose that's it.Following the last on even money is a good way to lose make it work and stop looking .
Title: Re: Attention expert roulette players
Post by: Roulettebeater on Apr 10, 10:39 AM 2018
Quote from: Winner on Apr 10, 10:32 AM 2018
Here's a good ? Did the casinos design any games to make you win there money.
Then why is it that people keep trying to find a bet that beats them .
Bet the game like it was intended Bet for it to lose that's it.Following the last on even money is a good way to lose make it work and stop looking .

Did your employer design any job that makes you win without doing efforts
No!

So all what you have to do is put some efforts and find some good methods that really work and let you get some money out the casino's pockets!

Title: Re: Attention expert roulette players
Post by: Winner on Apr 10, 03:49 PM 2018
Quote from: Roulettebeater on Apr 10, 10:39 AM 2018
Did your employer design any job that makes you win without doing efforts
No!

So all what you have to do is put some efforts and find some good methods that really work and let you get some money out the casino's pockets!

True
Title: Re: Attention expert roulette players
Post by: Winner on Apr 10, 04:33 PM 2018
I'm not  sure if this ever happen to anyone ,I was looking for something the other day in the fridge for about a min. Could not find what I was looking for only to go back and it was staring me right in the face . Dam peanut butter .
Food for thought
Title: Re: Attention expert roulette players
Post by: ozon on Apr 10, 05:31 PM 2018
Winner

I do not know if I understood the bet selection well.
We play FTL in cycles of 6 spins to the first win. YES?
With what I read, at some point we use progressions, but when exactly?
  I would ask for exact instructions on how to play and test this strategy.
Title: Re: Attention expert roulette players
Post by: Winner on Apr 10, 05:59 PM 2018
Follow the last is the bet
Cycle of 6
Stop on a win continue on losses til cycle is over the most in a cycle is - 5 losses
The tracking will look like this for ex.
1 311114 -5 22.     First spin win on 1 ... 2nd cycle  wins on 3 and so on . As you can see there is a -5 love those one .

This would be. 9 wins  12 losses
Do this for now 10 x 10 for 600 spins then I will show you where the progression comes in .
Check results after 60 spins   Keep track of it .
Of coarse if you win on the first bet in the cycle there is a 4 spin wait before the next .
Ya ya I can hear you now waiting what that's about 2 mins. there is a reason boys .
Title: Re: Attention expert roulette players
Post by: ozon on Apr 10, 06:38 PM 2018
OK.Thanks for explaining.
Title: Re: Attention expert roulette players
Post by: Winner on Apr 10, 06:43 PM 2018
My profit at the moment stands at 331 units flat betting  7000 placed bets .
Progression not included  .
Average about 2 hours play  .
240 spins  air ball .
Title: Re: Attention expert roulette players
Post by: Winner on Apr 10, 06:43 PM 2018
Quote from: ozon on Apr 10, 06:38 PM 2018
OK.Thanks for explaining.
Your welcome
Title: Re: Attention expert roulette players
Post by: zibaanna on Apr 24, 03:13 AM 2018
Necessary bankroll? In cycle 6, do you place bets based on the repeat of the first spin or each time after the last one?
Give an example of a 6-spin cycle that is struck with the first spin or with 3 or 4 spins.