Let's pretend we have a bankroll of â,¬30.000 euro and are playing in a casino where we have a Table limit of also â,¬30.000 euro and with this in mind that in a 37 spin cycle we will have at least 4 repeaters min. We will have at Most 33 unique numbers in 37 spins (well that's the Most i Have ever seen). We will be betting as soon as one number repeats itself, and then start betting the numbers that Have fallen and are unique, and Keep adding whenever a unique numbers Comes into play, hoping that the next spin would produce a repeat. Knowing that a min of 3 repeats are still waiting for us before the 37 spin set is over.
Everytime one of our unique gets hit, we will be deleting it and only play the numbers that Have fallen and still are unique. Is there a math behind this, that we will always be in profit of min. â,¬1 euro till the cycle is over????
Let's say our First repeat Comes at spin 12.
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4 (First repeat)
We now start betting the 11 unique numbers and be adding a new unique as they come. Once a unique from our list is hit, we remove that number and continue with the rest.
Is this possible with math?
Unfortunately you didn't provide enough information so I can model/plot a trigonometric function over an interval of time, are you saying that you will bet all uniques (altogether) previous spun numbers that have appeared waiting for one to be a repeater ?
Quote from: Roulettebeater on Apr 15, 01:35 PM 2018
Unfortunately you didn't provide enough information so I can model/plot a trigonometric function over an interval of time, are you saying that you will bet all uniques (altogether) previous spun numbers that have appeared waiting for one to be a repeater ?
Yes, as soon as the First repeater Comes, we start to bet All the numbers that came except the repeating number, with such a progression that we will always be in profit when the next repeater shows. With keeping in mind that after the First repeater has shown, there Will be atleast 3 More.
The First repeater can come on spin 2 or on spin 19. We only start once the First repeater has shown at start to bet All the uniques that came before that and after a spin loss we add the unique that came . And on a hit we remove the hitted one, and continue. The hitted one can't return in our list, because we are chasing the normal repeaters. Hope it is clear. I once saw on a Forum how this can be done, but that's years ago and i never saved it. Just wondering if it is possible with such bankroll and Table limit.
Example play Without any progression, because i don't know it, that why i asked.
37 spin cycle.
Total of 10 repeaters in this example cycle . 9 chances to bring us profit.
But how? That's the question.
23
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8
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4 (First repeat - start betting All uniq.)
(23-0-8-25-5-7-26)
14 (lost add #14 to the list)
16 (lost add #16 to the list)
30 (lost add #30 to the list)
30 Win remove from the list
3. (lost add #3 to the list)
28 (lost add #28 to the list)
35 (lost add #35 to the list)
17 (lost add #17 to the list)
21 (lost add #21 to the list)
15 (lost add #15 to the list)
19 (lost add #19 to the list)
22 (lost add #22 to the list)
26 Win remove from the list
8 Win remove from the list)
7 (lost add #7 to the list)
12 (lost add #12 to the list)
30 Lost Already repeated. No adding
8. Lost Already repeated. No adding
15 Win remove from the list
32 (lost add #32 to the list)
12 Win remove from the list
0 Win remove from the list
35 Win remove from the list
7 Win remove from the list
7 Lost Already repeated. No adding
19 Win remove from the list
26 lost already repeated. No adding
12 lost already repeated. No adding
If we take a min. Of 4 repeaters in our mind, with possible profit points of 3, because we start after the First repeater Comes.
How is it possible to Always profit if one of those 3 repeaters come? No matter the spingap between them.
What progression can we use to Always show a profit of min. â,¬1 with a â,¬30.000 Table limit.
The more repeaters we get the better ofcourse but let's asume we get only 3. Because i never saw More then 33 unique numbers in 37 spins in my 25 roulette years. Meaning that a min. Of 4 repeaters came be it doubled, tripple or quads.
There must be some great math Guy around here how can fix this puzzle?
Jekh,
You're still trying to side step probability. You can't. You will never find just the right progression to make it work.
Focus on finding a method to beat the wheel, NOT the random game.
Once you've done that, the progression and money management is very simple.
On average, 24 unique, 8 doubles and the rest are trebles or quads within 37 spins. With there being a minimum of 4 doubles, you could always bet until you have hit 4 doubles then reset.
With the progression you are asking, it would have to change as numbers are added or removed. It is possible to do this as you go, create a spreadsheet and enter the amount of numbers plus the units to always be at a minimum profit. It can't be a static progression, too many variables.
But here is a progression that has a minimum of $1 profit,(rounded up to nearest profit) 20 Step progression adding a number each time until you hit 20 numbers with a ban of $22382. Adding a 21st number would go beyond table limit requiring a bankroll of $53735 as you can see from the sheet
Spin UNITS Total Bet RETURN LOSSES PROFIT
1 $ 1.00 $1.00 $ 36.00 $1.00 $35.00
2 $ 1.00 $2.00 $ 36.00 $3.00 $33.00
3 $ 1.00 $3.00 $ 36.00 $6.00 $30.00
4 $ 1.00 $4.00 $ 36.00 $10.00 $26.00
5 $ 1.00 $5.00 $ 36.00 $15.00 $21.00
6 $ 1.00 $6.00 $ 36.00 $21.00 $15.00
7 $ 1.00 $7.00 $ 36.00 $28.00 $8.00
8 $ 2.00 $16.00 $ 72.00 $44.00 $28.00
9 $ 2.00 $18.00 $ 72.00 $62.00 $10.00
10 $ 3.00 $30.00 $ 108.00 $92.00 $16.00
11 $ 4.00 $44.00 $ 144.00 $136.00 $8.00
12 $ 6.00 $72.00 $ 216.00 $208.00 $8.00
13 $ 10.00 $130.00 $ 360.00 $338.00 $22.00
14 $ 11.00 $44.00 $ 396.00 $382.00 $14.00
15 $ 19.00 $285.00 $ 684.00 $667.00 $17.00
16 $ 34.00 $544.00 $ 1,224.00 $1,211.00 $13.00
17 $ 64.00 $1,088.00 $ 2,304.00 $2,299.00 $5.00
18 $ 128.00 $2,304.00 $ 4,608.00 $4,603.00 $5.00
19 $ 281.00 $5,339.00 $ 10,116.00 $9,942.00 $174.00
20 $ 622.00 $12,440.00 $ 22,392.00 $22,382.00 $10.00
21 $ 1,493.00 $31,353.00 $ 53,748.00 $53,735.00 $13.00
Its all about the prog for TG
So here's one to try. Bet all repeats as they come till you've used 36 units (1 units)
If no win, now bet the repeats and any more that come untill you've used 180 units (5 unit )
The same as above but now untill 900 units used (25 unit) the 1,5,25
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I used 1 units twice, the 1st gave me a bankroll of 2999, down 1 unit, so used 1 unit again then 5 unit and 25 unit. bank showed 3,396
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@elvis..
you can try this
note as numbers are comming
you bet nothing yet
at some point you will have numbers with 1 hit numbers with 0 hit and numbers with 2 hit
as soon as you get first number with 3 hits you will start beting this number with 3 hits ,numbers with 2 hits and any other number that get 2 hits
to sum it up
as soon as you get your first number with 3 hits you bet that 3timer plus all numbers with 2 hits and add up any other number that hits 2 times...your betting is only for 6 spins if no hit retrack with new numbers and discard all your bets
using the above Eddy
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My math tells me, that as soon as i Have hit 4 repeats and in profit, it is best to restart. Or continue at own risk.
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It's Sounds Crazy, but the longer it takes before our First repeater hits, the better it is for us. :smile:
Let's say we get our First repeater on spin 21 :ooh: we now know that within 16 spins, we will get atleast 4 repeats (profit points) and because we need to bet 21# on spin 22 the chances we'll be getting a hit on the next spin is extremely huge!
What also crossed my mind is that after a hit we erase that number and when not in profit we raise All bets by one.
I've Just tested some extreme sessions where i did not stop when at First profit but continue.
What i saw is that there Will Always be a point where you Have a new High if you play like this.
1. When First repeater hits, start betting All unique numbers that came before it .
2. Continue to add new unique numbers to your list until you get a hit again.
3. When you get a hit on one of your numbers and are at a new High, restart.
4. When you get a hit on one of your numbers and you are not at a new High, look at your balance and how many numbers you need to bet. If you Have for example 14 numbers in play and your in debt of -12, you don't Have to raise your bets for the next spin, becaus if you get a hit, you Will be in profit even Without a raise. Do this everytime you get a hit and are in debt, check your balance if raising is needed. Prefer Always not to if not nessesary.
5. When you Have raised your numbers by +1 and Have a hit but not at a new High, don't Lower your bets, but Keep it in place. When a new numbers needs to be added give it the same chip amount as the others in play.
6. Continue this progress until a new High is reached and reset.
I've Just had a session that needed to be Extended to 42 spins before i was at a new High but i did Make it. :thumbsup::thumbsup:
The only problem i See playing like this is when you get An early repeater, before spin 5 and the second one in the late 20's.
Damn wish i had saved it i saw it once on vls roulette i believe or on gambler den, but don't know anymore. There they had the solution how Always win in a 37 spin cycle, but only when you've had a big bankroll. Between 25.000 dollar and 30.000 dollar i believe and a Table limit of the same size. But that wasn't possible, because there isn't a casino in the world Who has that limit, well maybe High Roller tables.
But either way, they had the solution.
As I explained to you(ONLY you), here are 2 games as example. When the distribution is normal, you breakeven. When the distribution becomes leptokurtic you take profit.
Play this method with a known "repeaters bias" live dealer wheel. :thumbsup:
Not difficult to identify them in b&m casino.
Quote from: jekhb76 on Apr 15, 06:29 PM 2018
Damn wish i had saved it i saw it once on vls roulette i believe or on gambler den, but don't know anymore. There they had the solution how Always win in a 37 spin cycle, but only when you've had a big bankroll. Between 25.000 dollar and 30.000 dollar i believe and a Table limit of the same size. But that wasn't possible, because there isn't a casino in the world Who has that limit, well maybe High Roller tables.
But either way, they had the solution.
I think you should put your efforts on 500$ in a 37 spin cycle maybe it will be closer to solution.
I'm now testing sleepers in All three the dozens, (37 spin cycle) Law of the third. looks promising. Will Report Back later.
Quote from: cht on Apr 15, 10:31 PM 2018As I explained to you(ONLY you), When the distribution becomes leptokurtic
Hi CHT,
maybe you tell us more about how to find the "super-Gaussian" :thumbsup:
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All about the progression
Ok here Goes,
Track All numbers until they Have completed a full cycle of spins (37)
Place the unhit numbers in their own dozen. Place the Zero in the First dozen when needed.
Every dozen should Have atleast 4 unhit numbers in them and a Max of 7 numbers.
Whenever a dozen don't Have these min. And Max. Numbers in it, we don't bet those numbers. So when a dozen has 1,2 or 3 numbers or above 7 numbers, we leave that dozen alone and only playing the dozens that Have met these rules.
We are aiming for a 1/2 win in each dozen. So when one dozen has 6 unhit numbers in it we play as Long until 2 out of those six numbers Have hit (1/2)
When this happens, we leave that dozen alone and continue with the other numbers in the other 1 or 2 dozen.
We remove a number from our list as soon as it gets hit.
We use a seperate progression for each dozen and their numbers.
So it's possible that you are playing 3 progression at once (it's duable).
Whenever there is a number hits, you need to recalculate the progression needed.
You can do this on the site of loothog.
Just Make a spreadsheet with progression needed for 4 to 7 numbers. That way you can Always See what progression need to be used.
When there is a dozen with only 4 numbers, what our minium is, you don't aim for 2 wins (1/2) but only 1 win, because otherwise you'll get below our 4 number minium.
Have fun.
Like a dream
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Are you using GLC progression?
Quote from: Lucky7Red on Apr 16, 11:44 AM 2018
Are you using GLC progression?
No doctor shows no good
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Look how many non-hit have hit not even 60 spins
Does someone know, what the most spins were without a hit on the following numbers?
4 numbers slept for ?
5 numbers slept for ?
6 numbers slept for ?
7 numbers slept for ?
Quote from: jekhb76 on Apr 16, 01:54 PM 2018
Does someone know, what the most spins were without a hit on the following numbers?
4 numbers slept for ?
5 numbers slept for ?
6 numbers slept for ?
7 numbers slept for ?
Run a gap test on loothog. I have personally seen 5 number s not hit in 92 spins, probability of a hit BT spin 80 is 99.9999% so its rare, but happens
First live session with my new system:
11
11
3
3
35
31
34
23
18
35
25
15
29
12
31
24
18
26
2
18
35
20
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14
23
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30
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8
Dozen 1 Unhits: 1-6-7-9-10
Dozen 2 Unhits: 17-19-21-22
Dozen 3 Unhits: 27-28-33-36
we play the above numbers with their own progressions
Dozen 1 starts with a progression for 5 numbers.
Dozen 2,3 starts with a progression for 4 numbers.
7 win +23 (we remove #7) Need one more.
progression is now for 4 numbers.
36 win +24 (we remove all numbers in this dozen, because 4# is min.)
28
19 win +20 (we remove all numbers in this dozen, because 4# is min.)
8
25
3
21
36
11
0
15 (we now bet these numbers again with 2 units for 4 spins)
0
36
2
10 win +18 (we now remove all numbers and end session.
+23
+24
+20
+18
Total Profit of â,¬85 in 53 spins.
Nice way to start the evening. :)
Quote from: Nimo on Apr 16, 02:12 PM 2018
Run a gap test on loothog. I have personally seen 5 number s not hit in 92 spins, probability of a hit BT spin 80 is 99.9999% so its rare, but happens
thanks, will have a look.
The reason i aksed is because i wanted to know, what bankroll is needed to play this system with three progressions.
min. 4 numbers and max. of 7 numbers in each dozen.
let's say that i needed 3 times a progression for 7 numbers (21 very extreme) if i can find out what the max spin cap is for 7 numbers, i could see how long a progression would be needed and so the total bankroll to play this without to worry. so close to HG as possible for that matter.
Just got me thinking,
this all method thing isn't nessesary at all.
if we look back when we have spun 37 numbers and 14 numbers remained unhit.
That's the same rare event, when i would have bet those exact 14 numbers from spin 1 all the way up to spin 37.
I wouldn't have a hit on one of those 14 numbers. Now this is a very rare even where we can profit from.
All i have to do is to calculate what the max spin cap is for 14 numbers ever recorded. If it can be used in a progression, we have ourselfs a HG.
that same goes for 15#, 16#, 17#, 18#, 19#, 20# and like i said max 7 numbers per dozen 21# numbers.
If we can find the extremes to these, and make a progression so it cannot lose, we have ourselfs a HG !!!!
Let's asume i play with 1 cents in RNG (yes i know, but for example purpose only)
and i have a bankroll of 500 euro, that's 50.000 units for playing with 1 cents. and a table limit of 300 euro (30.000)
that means if i have 14 unhit numbers on spin 37 (they sleps for this long) and i have a bank of 50.000 units, it means that i can play up to spin 53 ! every hit before or on spin 53, will grant me atleast 1 unit profit. Now i don't know about you, but i haven't seen 14 numbers slept for 53 spins in my life. Don't say it isn't possible, but i never seen this.
JEKHB76,
Do you need some numbers from live wheels? I'm not going to offer an opinion on anything in the thread, but if you'd like some numbers to test on other than an RNG then I can help you out.
Quote from: The General on Apr 16, 03:23 PM 2018
JEKHB76,
Do you need some numbers from live wheels? I'm not going to offer an opinion on anything in the thread, but if you'd like some numbers to test on other than an RNG then I can help you out.
Thanks, but i did some tests with numbers from Random.org about 250 cycles of 37 spins, and never got above spin 46 in these session. Don't say that they can't go beyond 50 spins (14 to 21) numbers, but it will be a hard Time getting there . 15 numbers i Have seen hit on spin 42 once. 16 numbers latest hit on spin 38. Etc etc.
Last test of 25 spin cycle sessions of 37 spins with 14-18 nonhit numbers
6 cycles of 37 spins had 14 UHN.
6 cycles of 37 spins had 16 UNN.
6 cycles of 37 spins had 18 UHN.
4 cycles of 37 spins had 17 UHN.
3 cycles of 37 spins had 15 UHN.
In order of Max spins until hit.
2
1
1
1
4
3
1
1
5
3
3
6
2
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5
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2
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7
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I would Have Made alot of money!
All sessions were done with numbers from Random.org
mind sharing how you played to get such results
Quote from: jekhb76 on Apr 16, 05:09 PM 2018
Last test of 25 spin cycle sessions of 37 spins with 14-18 nonhit numbers
6 cycles of 37 spins had 14 UHN.
6 cycles of 37 spins had 16 UNN.
6 cycles of 37 spins had 18 UHN.
4 cycles of 37 spins had 17 UHN.
3 cycles of 37 spins had 15 UHN.
In order of Max spins until hit.
2
1
1
1
4
3
1
1
5
3
3
6
2
1
5
6
4
1
2
2
4
7
4
2
3
I would Have Made alot of money!
All sessions were done with numbers from Random.org
Sorry friends, i Made a mistake by bringing text from another System i was testing into this one.
I ment,
Last 25 sessions of 37 spins that had 14 unhit numbers in them.
Quote from: keepontryin on Apr 16, 05:15 PM 2018
mind sharing how you played to get such results
Nothing Special.
Just record All the unhit numbers from last spin cycle there must be atleast 12 in them and bet them acording the progression on loothog.
30 million test spins, highest level for 12 numbers was 68 spins, maybe work with a modified labby
I know the basics for playing repeaters is as follows;
Start betting once a number repeats itself for the First Time and add became a 2peat, add 1 unit to this number. Do this for every number that becomes a 2. As soon as a number becomes a 3, we add 1 More unit to it, Make it 2 chips Total on every repeater that becomes a 3peater.
Every 3 peater becoming a 4peater we place a Total of 4 units on it and continue as above.
We do this for as Long as we like everytime a number repeats itself using the following progression;
2s - 1 unit
3s - 2 units
4s - 4 units
5s - 8 units
6s - 16 units
7s - 32 units
8s - 64 units
For as Long as you like and the Table limits can handle it.
A side Note, what i do is whenever a repeat doesn't show itself again above average (More then 1 hit) i Will Delete that number from our list.
As soon as a deleted number repeats itself again for a min. Of 2 Times in a cycle it will be added again. This for keeping the Flow.
Again, this is the basics to my method and An even More agressive possitive progression can handle larger drawbacks, but also a bigger bankroll is needed.
This is how i play repeaters, and i personaly think it's the best way to play it, atleast for me. Some sessions can be very Lucky, some sessions can be a real grind and some sessions you lose money, not a HG by far, but it makes me a good Living and as Long as it is working for me, why should i change it? The only thing i change from Time to Time is the progression.
I've been playing like this for More then 9 months now and with a daily goal of +â,¬100,00 i'm Fine with it. It wins More for me then that it loses.
For All repeater fans, play this on a daily basis until you reach â,¬100 and stop for that day. Play it for a month and Tell me how you did. I use a basis bank of 5000. Euro. Never in those 9 months i lost my bank, and it the profit is now Just above â,¬22.000 euro. Not bad if you think that i started with 2500 euro. Since last july.
See i can share a full System with you guys, if only others did also (a few do it already).
You must have a stoploss? As you say you lose some money also. Else you could lose your whole bank.
Don't like any progression based system not sure you playing this nine months.
Quote from: Lucky7Red on Apr 17, 02:46 PM 2018not sure you playing this nine months.
Since he plays online.... he can prove it . Right ?
Jeck, when sharing a system always specify how many euros or cents per unit. Ex: 100 euros at 10 euros a unit is a sort of modest wingoal. 100 euros wingoal at 1cent per unit is a msjor achievement. It helps testers determine system's ambition/potential.
Quote from: psimoes on Apr 17, 03:04 PM 2018
Jeck, when sharing a system always specify how many euros or cents per unit. Ex: 100 euros at 10 euros a unit is a sort of modest wingoal. 100 euros wingoal at 1cent per unit is a msjor achievement. It helps testers determine system's ambition/potential.
Well it depends, on how much Time i Have on a day. I Have 5 kids so don't Always Have much free Time.
Most of the Time i use a very agressive progression, and stop once in profit.
When i Have More spare Time i play a slower progression with a smaller basebet, and sometimes i don't even reach my daily goal at once. Sometimes i play a few sessions a day to reach that.
I started once with 1 cent rng online with a bank of 5000 units (50 euro) and everytime i doubled my bank i would play a higher stake as a basebet. Once i was able to play with 1 euro as a basebet i would play live online. Now i only play my System in my local landbased casino with a 5 euro table min. When i don't Have Time to do it i play online, but 90% of the Time i play live in. Real casino with a High basebet.
And there was a time turbo used to hangout at the mpr chatroom. Funny guy to share a few laughs with. Now get this: he used to bet only six numbers. He would tell us which were those numbers while chatting. Like he was waiting for his bus to arrive or something. And the numbers hit as he expected. Everybodys jaws dropped. You can ask maestro, wallygator, kattila and tomla. Think they all will remember that. So, six numbers, no more.
Quote from: Lucky7Red on Apr 17, 02:46 PM 2018
Don't like any progression based system not sure you playing this nine months.
That's ok. But my System doesn't give me the wins needed if i play it flatbet. Maybe it could win also but it takes much More Time to complete my daily goal. And Yes, i do play this for the last 9 months. 90% of the Time in a landbased casino. With 5 euro basebet.
Quote from: psimoes on Apr 17, 03:17 PM 2018
And there was a time turbo used to hangout at the mpr chatroom. Funny guy to share a few laughs with. Now get this: he used to bet only six numbers. He would tell us which were those numbers while chatting. Like he was waiting for his bus to arrive or something. And the numbers hit as he expected. Everybodys jaws dropped. You can ask maestro, wallygator, kattila and tomla. Think they all will remember that. So, six numbers, no more.
And the funny thing is, Nobody understand what he was doin'
I presume it were the 6 hottest numbers at that time.
jekh, is your daily wintarget still $100?
Quote from: Roulettebeater on Apr 17, 03:19 PM 2018
jekh, is your daily wintarget still $100?
Yes, but last few weeks it is More around 50-75 euro. Don't Have much free Time. Alot in the hospital with one of my kids.
Quote from: jekhb76 on Apr 17, 03:21 PM 2018
Yes, but last few weeks it is More around 50-75 euro. Don't Have much free Time. Alot in the hospital with one of my kids.
Sorry to hear that, then don't be greedy and give your time to your kid.
Quote from: boyd30 on Apr 17, 02:37 PM 2018
You must have a stoploss? As you say you lose some money also. Else you could lose your whole bank.
Yes i Have a stop loss at 1250 euro.
But only happend a few times in the past. When i would lose that money and that session the next Time i would play i would borrownit back from my Total profit bank. And later returned it.
Quote from: Roulettebeater on Apr 17, 03:24 PM 2018
Sorry to hear that, then don't be greedy and give your time to your kid.
I Will , at the moment it is Just to pay the bills.
Quote from: jekhb76 on Apr 17, 03:38 PM 2018
I Will , at the moment it is Just to pay the bills.
alright, understood!
What's the next step?
Quote from: Roulettebeater on Apr 17, 03:54 PM 2018
alright, understood!
What's the next step?
? Next step
A good system jekhb76. Did a few tests. But you need a big bankroll and wide table limits. I wonder if you can have a lower stoploss?
Quote from: jekhb76 on Apr 17, 03:55 PM 2018
? Next step
yea... you saying $100 a day..that's $3000 a month..you can get rich from that, not only paying the bills!
Jeck, family comes first! Never let the game steal your time. Heres hoping your kid gets well soon.
I just lost a long reply. Briefly, study that graphic turbo posted last week. Cant remember the thread atm.
Flat lines mean no bets, just tracking.
Steeper curves ascending or descending let you guess the larger progressions. Either positive or negative.
Search for a system with clear rules and learn by analyzing the curves on Rx report. Good luck
Quote from: boyd30 on Apr 17, 04:00 PM 2018
A good system jekhb76. Did a few tests. But you need a big bankroll and wide table limits. I wonder if you can have a lower stoploss?
Don't know, i Always used 1/4 stoploss of my bankroll. I Have the luck that i Have a good backingup bank, build up in the last 9 months.
Quote from: Roulettebeater on Apr 17, 04:01 PM 2018
yea... you saying $100 a day..that's $3000 a month..you can get rich from that, not only paying the bills!
â,¬2800 to be precisie :wink: i don't want to. I Just wanna lead a good Life, where i can do All the things i want, and still Have All the Time with my Family. And one of the reasons i Have a 100 â,¬ daily goal, is to keep under the radar. I once was banned from a landbased casino and had a ban for 3 months. For making to much money, so they though i was cheating.
No i play another casino BM everyday in a another Town and i also Make sure that i First win above my daily goal , and before i leave i Make sure i lose some money to them (but Always be in profit and Have reached my daily goal when i leave Home. This way i gave them the apptession that i Have lost alot of money and they wave me goodbuy! Till next Time sir. Not realizing that i've Just Made â,¬100 + (did at First when i started to play) and the rest was a losing Evening (so i Make them believe) >:D i Have a few BM casino's in Just An half hour Drive between them. So i do this to preventie to get banned again :thumbsup:
Quote from: jekhb76 on Apr 17, 04:30 PM 2018
â,¬2800 to be precisie :wink: i don't want to. I Just wanna lead a good Life, where i can do All the things i want, and still Have All the Time with my Family. And one of the reasons i Have a 100 â,¬ daily goal, is to keep under the radar. I once was banned from a landbased casino and had a ban for 3 months. For making to much money, so they though i was cheating.
No i play another casino BM everyday in a another Town and i also Make sure that i First win above my daily goal , and before i leave i Make sure i lose some money to them (but Always be in profit and Have reached my daily goal when i leave Home. This way i gave them the apptession that i Have lost alot of money and they wave me goodbuy! Till next Time sir. Not realizing that i've Just Made â,¬100 + (did at First when i started to play) and the rest was a losing Evening (so i Make them believe) >:D i Have a few BM casino's in Just An half hour Drive between them. So i do this to preventie to get banned again :thumbsup:
No online casino?
Quote from: Roulettebeater on Apr 17, 04:37 PM 2018
No online casino?
At Home, it is hard to stay concetrated All the Time, and i need to be.
I Have 2 Young kids moving around All the Time. (2y) and a baby of 9 month. The rest is at school. But my two year Old Always checks with me and my laptop :yawn: lost alot once die that he pushed a button and i brought Back to the desktop. Hahaha. So No, prefer BM Always above online. And the baby is crying also alot, so concetrated is not Always possible.
Quote from: jekhb76 on Apr 17, 04:54 PM 2018prefer BM Always above online. And the baby is crying also alot, so concetrated is not Always possible.
Really? what a mess then :)
take care of your kids and don't forget to teach them how to beat roulette as you're doing
:)
Quote from: boyd30 on Apr 17, 04:00 PM 2018
A good system jekhb76. Did a few tests. But you need a big bankroll and wide table limits. I wonder if you can have a lower stoploss?
We you First start out. Play it on rng and don't concetrate on much profit, Just for real money with a few wins here and there and don't play too much and don't be greedy. Start with 1 euro profit a day as a Wim goal. Yes i know rng >:D but i never had any problems with it. And with regarding a big bankroll, i started with 5000 units, but you can also play with 500 euro as a start bank. Now you Have a bank of 50.000 cents. Now problem anymore with tjis System. If you play with cents. And with a bank limit of 300 euro (30.000 cent) also No problem.
Quote from: Roulettebeater on Apr 17, 05:06 PM 2018
Really? what a mess then :)
take care of your kids and don't forget to teach them how to beat roulette as you're doing
:)
Hahaha
Well i don't beat roulette, i've Just been Lucky in the past 9 months. I'm sure it will End sometime. :thumbsup:
Remember a System can Run very wel for a year Ling but loses big on the 13th month. I only play for a short Time per day, that's one of the reasons it stays in profit up till now. And i Have set a Decent daily goal. But it will End, i'm sure. All systems do at some Point, it is roulette isn't it. :thumbsup:
By the way, i forgot one important thing for All of you Who wants to check my System. End your session Always when in First profit!!!! Retrack and start again, until you Have reached your daily goal. I know some don't think you should stop at First profit but only once you Have doubled your bankroll.
I don't play that way.
Quote from: jekhb76 on Apr 17, 05:11 PM 2018Well i don't beat roulette, i've Just been Lucky in the past 9 months. I'm sure it will End sometime.
Remember a System can Run very wel for a year Ling but loses big on the 13th month. I only play for a short Time
I disagree with you on this.
if your system resists one year without a loss, then it's a winner!
sit down, relax and start printing money :)
Quote from: Roulettebeater on Apr 17, 05:23 PM 2018
I disagree with you on this.
if your system resists one year without a loss, then it's a winner!
sit down, relax and start printing money :)
I would Hope so, but i know the reality, because it was reality Who would put my two feet on the ground again, when one of my systems doomed after 2 years of playing. So no, but i enjoy it for as Long as it is lasting.
And i Have loses by the way, but i Have build enough bricks to build a good Wall, that can take Decent hits. But too many hits on the Wall, and this Will Break also. Just Staying onnthe ground and not with my head in the Air. And i'm sure i'm not the only one playing like this, and it failed for them also.
Quote from: Herby on Apr 16, 06:58 AM 2018
Hi CHT,
maybe you tell us more about how to find the "super-Gaussian" :thumbsup:
Here is another game how I find it. To find nocturnal bats, it's when the sun sets. The same with "super-Gaussian". :xd:
Remember to take profit when you find it.
If you don't find it, wait for return to the mean to get out.
If you play for real money,
Here's something that would likely benefit the hot number players.
1. Collect data fron a few or several wheels
2. Run chi square tests on each wheel to see which wheel has the highest score. (There are several spreadsheets out there that will automatically calc it for you.)
3. Play the hot numbers and or repeater systems on only the highest scoring wheel. ------ The General
Always End your Mini session once First profit is reached, to avoid that you are betting to much numbers at the same Time. Always quit for the day once you Have reached your daily Target.
I find it very important to have a daily goal. Because it prevents me from blind betting and then losing sessions are less, because i stop at the Right Time. If you stick to these rules, you can Have fun for a very long time.
Quote from: PassionRuleta on Apr 18, 03:27 AM 2018
It is not necessary to play sessions until you have a benefit, you can lose 500 chips and then have the moment of recovery because it hits your numbers, and you're just going to let it win until you have a minimum profit ??? then there is no difference in playing like this and doing it with a martingale, you will only look for a minimum benefit and logically the Turbo way does not work like that.
On the contrary when it's time to win you have to increase your chips in the numbers to hit better and better and get too high to have a good profit, but would have sense to play losing 500 to win 50, NO SENSE .
regards
I understand your thought but i feel comfortabele with the way i play it, so i don't Have the intention to do it otherwise. But either to his own. Everyone has a Different style of playing and Yes i lose sessions, but up till now i win More then i lose, until that also ends. But i had fun anyway. And it is not that i'm playing with money to pay the bills with, i can however, but i don't Have to. It is the casino's money that i play with now for 9 monts, not mynown anymore. So what do i Have to lose. Sure it ain't a HG and i always realize that i can lose everyday and Yes i would live to have a System/method that Will Have a certanly in winning All the Time, but i haven't so i Make the best of it. But Yes tomorrow can be a Long Time.
We don't need to play like Turbo does. If it wins much more than loses then it's enough. 3-4 losses in row can wipe out your bankroll, but hopefully that will never happen in close future. But I will test and see if you can have a smaller stoploss and maybe use a different progression. Some kind of a progression is a must though.
Quote from: boyd30 on Apr 18, 05:49 AM 2018
We don't need to play like Turbo does. If it wins much more than loses then it's enough. 3-4 losses in row can wipe out your bankroll, but hopefully that will never happen in close future. But I will test and see if you can have a smaller stoploss and maybe use a different progression. Some kind of a progression is a must though.
You're absolutly Right. And i never had More then 2 losses in a row. And even that was months ago. But it can happen anytime. Thanks for looking to make my System even better. Very kind of you.
Quote from: boyd30 on Apr 18, 05:49 AM 2018
We don't need to play like Turbo does.
Yep, why to bother with this loser who have several faces on this forum.
I Just Have a feeling that yo Make my System More safer is that we need a perfect Window in wich the numbers need to perform above average.
I don't think that a complete spin cycle is the safest way. Was More thinking of 26. Don't ask me why i Have that feeling, i Just don't know. Needs alot of testing if this performs better then my 37 spin cycle window.
Quote from: jekhb76 on Apr 18, 03:21 PM 2018
I Just Have a feeling that yo Make my System More safer is that we need a perfect Window in wich the numbers need to perform above average.
I don't think that a complete spin cycle is the safest way. Was More thinking of 26. Don't ask me why i Have that feeling, i Just don't know. Needs alot of testing if this performs better then my 37 spin cycle window.
Also i think we must have a Max. To bet All the Time. Maybe Max 8. And rotate between the numbers when one gets hit. Like we bet the Max hottest 8 #. Just a thought. :thumbsup:
So what we have so far regarding the new rules.
1. Bet All repeaters as they come.
2. Bet up to Max. 8 numbers
2a. Whenever a new repeater Comes, we remove the oldest.
3. We use a 26 spin Window.
4. Whenever a # gets hit, it will stay in our list of Max 8 numbers (when it hits again within the 26 spin Window) but Will be moved to spot 1 again in our list of numbers. The rest Will move one spot to the Right.
5. When a number gets hit and has met the above criteria and we are not at a new High, we use a possitive progression on the hitted number.
6. Progression we use until we find something better and safer is:
2/4/8/16/32
7. Whenever we reach a new High (First profit) we start again fresh.
Let's test this and See how it's Holding up.
Have a great day,
Ed.
:thumbsup:
Dear members, to continue improving my method i Will open a new thread solo to thos method. Otherwise if we continue in this thread No one has a clue at some Point, where this thread was All about in the First place.
So if you would like to contribute and discuss it further then go to my new thread and we will continue from there.
New thread:
THE ULTIMATE REPEATER SYSTEM