I notice a lot of interest in and discussion about the hot numbers system of TurboGenius.
He is not willing to serve it on a silver plate in all details but was willing to post it on forums in tiny pieces. He wants you to do the work and put the pieces together and figure the system out on your own.
Many of you may not be able or willing to do this work. So my partner Anthony Bates and I make an offer:
We will reverse-engineer a live play session of TurboGenius he played at AC and published on a forum. We will lay out on a silver plate each and every bet with the respective bet amount and results for all 136 spins.
For our time and effort we ask for donations. Any amount is much appreciated.
If the donations reach the sum of 2000$ we plan to publish the results in this thread on Christmas eve. :lol:
High-level donators who contribute to our efforts at least 50$ will receive the results by end of may via email
IF they input their email address in the field: "Add special instructions to the seller:" while donating.
Donate here:
link:s://:.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=FV2H3CBPDMHZN
Donations are not refundable! Thanks a lot!
Yes for sure I'll :twisted:
Quote from: Gutroulett on Apr 21, 02:15 PM 2018
I notice a lot of interest in and discussion about the hot numbers system of TurboGenius.
He is not willing to serve it on a silver plate in all details but was willing to post it on forums in tiny pieces. He wants you to do the work and put the pieces together and figure the system out on your own.
Donate here:
link:s://:.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=FV2H3CBPDMHZN
Donations are not refundable! Thanks a lot!
Please Turner lock this :-X
Just out of curiosity, how can reverse-engineering one session in the random game of roulette help anybody to pinpoint anything that will hold up and guarantee future winning sessions. Hate to be negative but the whole idea is frankly ridiculous.
If everyone on this forum donates $1000 each to me I will post all my losing sessions of the last 10 years as soon as the last donation is received.
Trust me there are a lot of losing sessions so you will get a lot of data for your $1000 donation which is great value for money! :thumbsup:
Quote from: ZERO on Apr 21, 02:37 PM 2018Trust me there are a lot of losing sessions so you will get a lot of data for your $1000 donation which is great value for money!
Your post as well as Turbo's system are worth "ZERO"
:)
And someone asked if i should be taken seriously :question:
Well, at least i Make a steady income everyday with this Crazy game.
I ones was in the dark about turbo's System and i thought i had found the light, well as far as turbo's method i'm still in the dark, but i was too hasty in my comments, but this Guy is goin' full gass. Please close this thread Turner!
Hahaha
Everyday better posts,
The author of this topic does not even want to sell a running system, he will only graciously present us with one session for $ 2,000.
I have locked this thread
Its up to Steve to delete it or unlock it because the Author hasnt requested it to be deleted.
I only delete posts that break rules or Topics at the authors request.
It looks dubious and could be a sting.
Quote from: Gutroulett on Apr 21, 02:15 PM 2018We will reverse-engineer a live play session of TurboGenius he played at AC and published on a forum
Exactly how do you intend to this, and guarantee he wont deliberately play another way just to mislead you?
And still there's no indication turbo even has anything special. Just a few people following without understanding.
Quote from: Steve on Apr 21, 09:56 PM 2018
Exactly how do you intend to this, and guarantee he wont deliberately play another way just to mislead you?
And still there's no indication turbo even has anything special. Just a few people following without understanding.
The thread-starter wrote:
"he played at AC and published on a forum. We will lay out on a silver plate each and every bet with the respective bet amount and results for all 136 spins."So evidently this is a session that turbo has already played and published on another forum -- and the thread-starter and his friend, obviously, have saved these bets (and the corresponding betting amounts).
They now want to reverse-engineer and try to figure out turbo's rationale for these bets and then "sell" their conclusions as a product.
Of course, turbo could have put out a false set of bets (that nevertheless won) just to mislead people.
But that is a risk that people (who are interested in repeaters and are desperate enough to pay for this thing) will have to take.
If anyone wants to invest in this they shouldn't expect to get a return on investment. Turbo already published enough for anyone to understand the principles enough to test. It doesnt work but anyone can still try.
Quote from: Steve on Apr 21, 09:56 PM 2018
Exactly how do you intend to this, and guarantee he wont deliberately play another way just to mislead you?
And still there's no indication turbo even has anything special. Just a few people following without understanding.
There is a chance that TG just is on an ego trip and totally fooling people as you assume.
This is why we don't offer "his HG system". If we did he could always say: "Na that's not how I really play."
We offer his AC session from Live Dealer Atlantic City March 30, 2017 reverse-engineered.
We choose that because it looks like a pretty plausible session of exactly 135 spins, continuous bets, a positive progression,...see yourself:
I can not upload a pic so here is the link to the other forum:
link:s://:.GF/threads/what-if-i-told-you.5962/page-25
For every spin you will be able to see which numbers he bet, how much he bet on every number, what progression he used and the results. In fact we will recreate his chart.
Everyone is interested in his system will see the rules and logic of it.
in order of appearance
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Was posted here before, we All saw the chart.
Nothing Special. Only playing repeaters with a very agressive progression that's No proof.
Quote from: Gutroulett on Apr 22, 12:20 AM 2018
There is a chance that TG just is on an ego trip and totally fooling people as you assume.
No TG is well aware that some people r always on forum to get his system and make business which took him 30yr to achieve.its already there u dont need to do it.
A good advice . Get a broken bowl and sit down on the street. Will get more than 2k.
Quote from: Madi on Apr 22, 03:07 AM 2018
A good advice . Get a broken bowl and sit down on the street. Will get more than 2k.
:xd: :xd: :xd:
Tis member let me call him a piece of s*h*i*t is too lazy to create a own strategy and sell it like a natural scammer. He is copying others work and sells under "HIS" copyright.
The result will be, that no serious roulette-thinker will ever publish any good idea on forums anymore.
Snowman found a friend in his undertaker business to forums.
When I get hold of you, i will definitly kill you, Randy Jones
Just bet every # that comes, when hit, remove it. When it return use a higher chip value etc etc until you're in profit then reset. Use a good bankroll min 5000 units. Even when the first repeater Comes at spin 28 you wil eventualy be in profit, because the repeats are coming like hellfire. When you are in debt for a good amount the session Will be much longer before a profit is reached again, but it will.
Because every number needs to return at some Point, and those with a higher chip value Will bring you over the Edge again.
Tested for 12000 spins, and Max of spins before First repeater came was 26. After 147 spins i was in profit again. This was the longest session.
Quote from: Gutroulett on Apr 21, 02:15 PM 2018
I notice a lot of interest in and discussion about the hot numbers system of TurboGenius.
He is not willing to serve it on a silver plate in all details but was willing to post it on forums in tiny pieces. He wants you to do the work and put the pieces together and figure the system out on your own.
Many of you may not be able or willing to do this work. So my partner Anthony Bates and I make an offer:
We will reverse-engineer a live play session of TurboGenius he played at AC and published on a forum. We will lay out on a silver plate each and every bet with the respective bet amount and results for all 136 spins.
For our time and effort we ask for donations. Any amount is much appreciated.
If the donations reach the sum of 2000$ we plan to publish the results in this thread on Christmas eve. :lol:
High-level donators who contribute to our efforts at least 50$ will receive the results by end of may via email
IF they input their email address in the field: "Add special instructions to the seller:" while donating.
Donate here:
link:s://:.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=FV2H3CBPDMHZN
Donations are not refundable! Thanks a lot!
You know how this lazy turbo gey is playing, so go to casino and play his stupid method all day, you can win more then 50$ donations.
Quote from: jekhb76 on Apr 22, 05:36 AM 2018
Just bet every # that comes, when hit, remove it. When it return use a higher chip value etc etc until you're in profit then reset. Use a good bankroll min 5000 units. Even when the first repeater Comes at spin 28 you wil eventualy be in profit, because the repeats are coming like hellfire. When you are in debt for a good amount the session Will be much longer before a profit is reached again, but it will.
Because every number needs to return at some Point, and those with a higher chip value Will bring you over the Edge again.
Tested for 12000 spins, and Max of spins before First repeater came was 26. After 147 spins i was in profit again. This was the longest session.
Hey,
did you try flat bet first if it came back anyway? If it does not at some point, what would be a stop-loss?
Quote from: Bigbroben on Apr 22, 06:50 AM 2018
Hey,
did you try flat bet first if it came back anyway? If it does not at some point, what would be a stop-loss?
Yes it works flatbet, only the sessions Will last much too Long to recover, believe me i've tried. With a progression, the playing Time can be much shorter. I Have a stop/loss at -2500. Never been there.
You Have to remeber that this is not suites for BM play, only online (live wheel only). In a real casino you don't Have the Time to place too many numbers in a short periode of Time.
When i Have the Time, i Will post An example flatbet session for you of you like. By the way, this is not my Basic System what i use for my daily goal, but i use it off and on to not het bored.
Quote from: winkel on Apr 22, 04:55 AM 2018
When I get hold of you, i will definitly kill you, Randy Jones
Been reported to the Deutsche Staatsanwaltschaft. Hendriks
Maybe we misjudged the interested in a proclaimed never loosing system or everyone knows already how to play it.
So far zero interest in the correct way to play it. Btw jekhb76 is not even close. :twisted:
Quote from: Gutroulett on Apr 22, 10:53 AM 2018
Maybe we misjudged the interested in a proclaimed never loosing system or everyone knows already how to play it.
So far zero interest in the correct way to play it. Btw jekhb76 is not even close. :twisted:
Just to get this Straight, the method i posted above has nothing to do with turbo's System. This is only a simple way of playing that is goin' well, but it isn't my main playing method by far. Just something Different.
Quote from: Gutroulett on Apr 22, 10:46 AM 2018
Been reported to the Deutsche Staatsanwaltschaft. Hendriks
Quartsch
Totally agree with lucky7red...
Sounds like you back engineered it already...
Why you asking for donations...
If you already have it?
Why not just post the session numbers and all that you have
All you have for sale is that piece of information if at all
That’s doubtful too
Sounds like your trying to capitalise on the gullible and desperate members
At least 87percent gave his system for free and then asked for donations if you liked it but not enforced to do so ..which is a great bit of software and explained in one of his post what he was doing..and actually works
Take a leaf out of his book
Show what you got which I think we all know is nothing at all
The work is not jet done but we checked of course if it is doable before we make big claims on a forum.
But as you see there are no gullible and desperate gamblers here. Everybody is happy with what he has.
Not a single post that says: Oh great, a few $$ is nothing for getting the hard work done and being served an allegedly never lose system.
And for all that are uneducated as Winkel is:
To put together and explain in an understandable way while clearly naming the originator of what is publicly published on a forum is very well within all copyright laws.
To threaten with homicide gets you one year in a quiet place.
Nope you have it, go and earn your 50$ in any casino you like, it is easy with such a great method. :P
This is goofy. It's like starting a fund raiser to see if ice melts.
(link:s://i.pinimg.com/originals/07/4d/70/074d7047de5869c4a7e9f6f0c7f855c3.jpg)
If anyone wants to know the system I can tell you. It's not rocket science, it doesn't require reverse engineering.
Here you go.
1.Start betting on every number that has hit twice.
2.Add them as they hit.
3.Continue until you have four or five numbers.
4.Increase your bets on the numbers as you lose. (Chase your losses.) The progression can be tweaked anyway you like.
The betting horizon is the players choice. There's really no ideal short term horizon. They're all going to perform about the same.
On an RNG/random game you should expect to overtime inevitably lose at the house edge.
Good luck.
Quote from: The General on Apr 22, 01:22 PM 2018
This is goofy. It's like starting a fund raiser to see if ice melts.
(link:s://i.pinimg.com/originals/07/4d/70/074d7047de5869c4a7e9f6f0c7f855c3.jpg)
If anyone wants to know the system I can tell you. It's not rocket science, it doesn't require reverse engineering.
Here you go.
1.Start betting on every number that has hit twice.
2.Add them as they hit.
3.Continue until you have four or five numbers.
4.Increase your bets on the numbers as you lose. (Chase your losses.) The progression can be tweaked anyway you like.
The betting horizon is the players choice. There's really no ideal short term horizon. They're all going to perform about the same.
On an RNG/random game you should expect to overtime inevitably lose at the house edge.
Good luck.
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How would you play?
QuoteHow would you play?
As an ordinary gambler or as a professional?(
As an ordinary gambler)Improving Turbo's repeater (hot number method) on the live wheel for Euro players that want to gamble a bit.
1. Keep a subset of numbers for each spin direction. This means you'll have one set of numbers for clockwise, and one set for counter clockwise spins.
2. Play as long as you can, provided that the wheel speeds and ball being used are similar.
3. Increase bets as you win, not as you lose. This way you can start at a higher unit bet and work down if losing, and up if winning... or...If you want to make it wild ride, and take a higher risk shot... play the reverse Labby on the numbers.
4. When playing conditions change dramatically restart your tracking or wait for the conditions that were similar to your previous conditions to return.
5. Pay special attention to the numbers that hit because the ball short cut the center of the wheel to reach them. Also pay special attention to the numbers that hit because the ball chased the number tape for a full revolution before falling in and landing. Give these hot numbers priority over others.
6. Play the dealers that spin the rotor (wheel) at a higher rate of speed. Avoid slow rotors.
Quote from: The General on Apr 22, 01:22 PM 2018
This is goofy. It's like starting a fund raiser to see if ice melts.
(link:s://i.pinimg.com/originals/07/4d/70/074d7047de5869c4a7e9f6f0c7f855c3.jpg)
If anyone wants to know the system I can tell you. It's not rocket science, it doesn't require reverse engineering.
Here you go.
1.Start betting on every number that has hit twice.
2.Add them as they hit.
3.Continue until you have four or five numbers.
4.Increase your bets on the numbers as you lose. (Chase your losses.) The progression can be tweaked anyway you like.
The betting horizon is the players choice. There's really no ideal short term horizon. They're all going to perform about the same.
On an RNG/random game you should expect to overtime inevitably lose at the house edge.
Good luck.
Increase the bets on the numbers as you lose? Don't think that's a good idea.
There is More to it then that, it must be. Otherwise if we play like that you can Have 60+ spins before a hit, don't think we want that.
QuoteIncrease the bets on the numbers as you lose? Don't think that's a good idea.
There is More to it then that, it must be. Otherwise if we play like that you can Have 60+ spins before a hit, don't think we want that.
60 spins without a hit? So?
Like I said, you can change the betting horizons around as much as you'd like, but it's not going to change much.
What you really need to do is to track up into the thousands of spins before you start finding fruit.
Increasing the bets on the numbers as they lose is what he does for the progression.
Quote from: The General on Apr 22, 02:31 PM 2018
60 spins without a hit? So?
Like I said, you can change the betting horizons around as much as you'd like, but it's not going to change much.
What you really need to do is to track up into the thousands of spins before you start finding fruit.
Increasing the bets on the numbers as they lose is what he does for the progression.
No, he is increasing the bets on numbers that get hit, not the other way around. He is playing the Hot numbers, not the cold ones. He bets More on 3s then on 2s and much much More on 4s and 5s. That's a possitive progression if you ask me.
But i can't get it to win everytime. That's the difference. According to Turbo, he said he can't lose. That one i can't understand.
I didn't say that he was increasing the bets on the cold ones.
Quote from: jekhb76 on Apr 22, 02:44 PM 2018
But i can't get it to win everytime.
Out of 10 sessions...how many you win ?
I cant win them all. But enough to end in profit as my wingoal is a full br (so i not stop with first profit)
Quote from: The General on Apr 22, 02:50 PM 2018
I didn't say that he was increasing the bets on the cold ones.
Sorry my fault, i ment raise when a number loses. But he is raising when a number wins.
Quote from: denzie on Apr 22, 03:04 PM 2018
Out of 10 sessions...how many you win ?
I cant win them all. But enough to end in profit as my wingoal is a full br (so i not stop with first profit)
My suggestions when testing.
(These do not necessarily apply to when you are playing.) 1. Ideally, you need to try and stop the concept of sessions when testing. It leads to unintentional curve fitting. If you resort to ending a session on a profit, then it's very easy to end most sessions on a profit by looking forwards and backwards in the data.
2. "Wingoals" are also curve fitting. Why is there a "wingoal?" Isn't your goal to win as much as possible?
In order to correctly test:
1. Remove the concept of session. Test 10k to 100k trials at a time. Just set your betting horizon to be whatever you want it to be, and keep the simulation running until you have a relevant number of trials.
2. There is no win goal. At the end of the session test to see if the amount won was statistically relevant.
If the system doesn't work, then moneymanagement can't turn it into a long term winner. It doesn't matter how you set your wingoals, it doesn't matter how long your sessions are or how good your gaming discipline is when playing.
Again, these suggestions are for when you ARE TESTING, not necessarily when you are playing.
Quote from: denzie on Apr 22, 03:04 PM 2018
Out of 10 sessions...how many you win ?
I cant win them all. But enough to end in profit as my wingoal is a full br (so i not stop with first profit)
Well i Always End my session when i'm around +100 euro and Have a stop/loss of 1250. Out of the ten sessions i reach my daily goal 9/10 Times. But it takes longer to See the larger Picture. Last 100 Games i lost 3 sessions. To me that's still a good thing.
3700 euro lost, 10.000/12500 win.
Over 3 monts that is.
Jekhb76,
Anytime you want to run simulations on this using my simulator I can demo it for you.
I'd have to do it on Skype though.
Quote from: The General on Apr 22, 03:13 PM 2018
My suggestions when testing. (These do not necessarily apply to when you are playing.)
1. Ideally, you need to try and stop the concept of sessions when testing. It leads to unintentional curve fitting. If you resort to ending a session on a profit, then it's very easy to end most sessions on a profit by looking forwards and backwards in the data.
2. "Wingoals" are also curve fitting. Why is there a "wingoal?" Isn't your goal to win as much as possible?
In order to correctly test:
1. Remove the concept of session. Test 10k to 100k trials at a time. Just set your betting horizon to be whatever you want it to be, and keep the simulation running until you have a relevant number of trials.
2. There is no win goal. At the end of the session test to see if the amount won was statistically relevant.
If the system doesn't work, then moneymanagement can't turn it into a long term winner. It doesn't matter how you set your wingoals, it doesn't matter how long your sessions are or how good your gaming discipline is when playing.
Again, these suggestions are for when you ARE TESTING, not necessarily when you are playing.
I understand what you are saying, but i'm not testing, i'm playing this everyday for the last 9 monts. And i feel comfortabele with my daily wingoal. Maybe not the way how everyone should play, but i feel Fine with the way i play, isn't that the Most important thing? Sure i can lose the very next session and the 3 sessions after that, you'll never know. Well atleast i don't know. Turbo doesn't Have to worry about this , because he wins All the Time.
Well then, I'm glad it's working out for you. :thumbsup:
Quote from: The General on Apr 22, 03:19 PM 2018
Jekhb76,
Anytime you want to run simulations on this using my simulator I can demo it for you.
I'd have to do it on Skype though.
Thank you, buy why should i? I know i play with Fire, but after 9 months and More then 20.000 euro (casino's money) and i never ever played with money i can't affort to play with, what's the problem. If i lost everything tomorrow, well i did Have a blast the last 9 months. Nice vacations, Nice clothes, spoiled my wife and kids. And when i should lose All, i Just start again with 50 euro and playing 0.01 cents again.
Quote from: jekhb76 on Apr 22, 03:20 PM 2018
Turbo doesn't Have to worry about this , because he wins All the Time.
He does over time. Just look his graph on the other forum. He had a dd for around----> 1000 <---- spins. Theres no way thats a win every time in my book.
The General is right though. :thumbsup:
But as long if one wins with whatever system.
..even if its a dumb martingale......keep going. Some people are Lucky. So ride that luck. And when you start losing.....stop. :thumbsup:
Quote from: The General on Apr 22, 03:23 PM 2018
Well then, I'm glad it's working out for you. :thumbsup:
Thanks.
But i'm Smart enough to know that it won't last forever. It will End, i'm sure of that. Could be tjis month. Next month or in a year. But it will. But for as Long as it lasts, i enjoy it. :thumbsup:
Quote from: denzie on Apr 22, 03:29 PM 2018
The General is right though. :thumbsup:
But as long if one wins with whatever system.
..even if its a dumb marginale......keep going. Some people are Lucky. So ride that luck. And when you start losing.....stop. :thumbsup:
I know, and i Will. :thumbsup:
Quote from: denzie on Apr 22, 03:25 PM 2018
He does over time. Just look his graph on the other forum. He had a dd for around----> 1000 <---- spins. Theres no way thats a win every time in my book.
I know i saw that too, bit why would he say that in the First place then? He said, and i quote; it can't lose!!! I know i Will win everytime!
Yes but that graph could be from another System he was playing at that moment, and not his HG? Just a thought.
Quote from: jekhb76 on Apr 22, 03:33 PM 2018
I know i saw that too, bit why would he say that in the First place then? He said, and i quote; it can't lose!!! I know i Will win everytime!
Yes but that graph could be from another System he was playing at that moment, and not his HG? Just a thought.
You play repeaters a lot. So you know how sessions can go. Sometimes variance is so bad that you cant win. Thats a fact. You cant win every visit at the casino. And the same goes for TG. He doesnt have magic powers
Yes there always be repeaters. But when they spread out to far...... bye bye br
Ok then just drop the numbers so you wont have that big dd. But then we still not sure variance is with or against us.
We cant win them all.
Quote from: denzie on Apr 22, 03:39 PM 2018
You play repeaters a lot. So you know how sessions can go. Sometimes variance is so bad that you cant win. Thats a fact. You cant win every visit at the casino. And the same goes for TG. He doesnt have magic powers
Yes there always be repeaters. But when they spread out to far...... bye bye br
Yes, you're absolutly Right! Maybe that's why my wins are still coming, because i only play until i reach +100 euro and then call it a day.
In fact i Just delaying my trip to Hell, but it doesn't matter if i Travel a week before i reach the hellcate of roulette or in a day, i Will be there at somepoint, i know.
Can someone test this?
Play Every repeater.
When a repeater hits, remove it from the list.
When a repeater returns. Give it a higher value.
Maybe on roulette xteme or some coding?
Thanks.
Quote from: denzie on Apr 22, 03:39 PM 2018
You play repeaters a lot. So you know how sessions can go. Sometimes variance is so bad that you cant win. Thats a fact. You cant win every visit at the casino. And the same goes for TG. He doesnt have magic powers
I do like this. This is the view of someone who has studied themself instead of just believing what they would like to believe
Quote from: jekhb76 on Apr 22, 03:49 PM 2018
Can someone test this?
Play Every repeater.
When a repeater hits, remove it from the list.
When a repeater returns. Give it a higher value.
Maybe on roulette xteme or some coding?
Thanks.
I can do it. I have done it, and every variation of it that you can possibly imagine over the years.
Like I said, I can show you on the simulators some time.
Quote from: The General on Apr 22, 04:00 PM 2018
I can do it. I have done it, and every variation of it that you can possibly imagine over the years.
Like I said, I can show you on the simulators some time.
Ok thanks, No reason to test it again then if it loses at the long Run.
Roulette Will Always be a Game of luck No matter how you play it. Some methods are better then others and some May last longer then others, but in the End we will all lose.
The only thing that's certain is that i 100% will have a repeater on spin 38 (39 American wheel). :thumbsup:
I seriously doubt Anthony Bates is in need of a handful of $50 donations.
Quote from: PassionRuleta on Apr 22, 05:42 PM 2018
In 38 balls, you will be sure 4 repetitions, but not always sure you will have a repeated 3, Mr. Jekh. :thumbsup:
I know passion!
I play roulette Ling enough to know that. Must Most of the cycles it does, but not All, Yes correct.
We got some request lately so here is our update.
We were looking for donations to compensate us for the time being invested to reverse-engineer the said session.
We did not get a single donation but we completed the task anyways and have the session of turbo uncovered.
It took us about 45 hours to do it. We have now every number he bet during the session and the amounts he put on the different numbers.
We also think about coding and testing it on several thousands of spins and sell it as a complete system for about $985,- on winning-roulette.com if it meets our standards.
As we are still working on the code for the automated test of Turbo’s System you can get the reverse-engineered 135 spins session including remarks that explain, what he does as a kind of early access or beta version of the final system we are going to sell.
You can purchase that for $579,95 which is about 35% discount of the final system’s price.
You are required to agree to our non-disclosure-terms to get it.
There is also a preview of the Excel file you will receive at
link:://:.winning-roulettesystems.com/order-form-system-tg.html (link:://:.winning-roulettesystems.com/order-form-system-tg.html)
FAQ:
Q: How do I know if this is the way Turbo is winning?
A: We can not provide proof that it is, but it is conform with the rules and hints he posted on different forums. The fact that he deleted the image with the profit graph from his original post on the forum after we announced to reverse-engineer the session is proof enough for us that this is an authentic session.
Q: Can I win like him with what you offer?
A: At this time we can give no guaranty you will win like he claims to do. But initial results of our automated tests show extended winning streaks and amazing profits even when just flat bet.
Total bargain compared to that cheeky f***** passion roulette wanting £10000 for his ..I’ll take ten
Quote from: PassionRuleta on Jun 15, 04:30 PM 2018
There is the difference between him and me is huge, he is selling you a supposed Turbo form which can drop up to 5000-8000 chips down with the Turbo progression and you do not know if he really got it, I also decipher several graphs of Turbo and both decipher the game was not the same and I've had sessions with the Turbo that my box under a lot of chips and if it is true that you end up winning, but risking a lot of capital, there are many ways you can win using an aggressive progression, but I do not think it's a grail.
The grail for me is a form that fights against roulette face to face with the same chips in play and the same possibilities always and ends up winning without having to use a progression and the only thing I've seen that achieves that is vaddis and aora I I have also created a form based on that type of game without progression.
Here in this forum there was a person who said a number of numbers to win and with that number of numbers to play could be won in the long term playing term, I can confirm that person was partly right.
Paying 560 dollars can be done by many people and there is this trap, you have to buy and you can not tell the way to anyone? and is it a way that earns money safely and only worth 560? how many of you if you had a way to win would you come for 560 dollars? hahaha, 90% would not sell it and 10% would sell it, I would for a very high price, I am convinced.
So do not be silly and think with your head, your head is not only to hold your hair, it is also to think!
You don’t know how turbo bets
Quote from: PassionRuleta on Jun 15, 04:51 PM 2018
Jajajaj, that message was a while ago, it's funny how you want to change things ... because you do not study, do not you want to win at roulette? anyway...
Go read my thread ..
Doh
turbo gave enough information to clearly reveal his systems working principles, which are nonsense and easily tested. what you are offering is over-priced and just benefiting you.
Again i m protesting steve. These people pick up the free information from this forum and later come back to sell it to the same forum and threat the real author they will hand the case homicide detective if the author show any anger. What sense does it make? Shouldnt u protect the real author( either his system work or not) rather than the seller?
the product is from information turbo published freely himself. although i dont think theres enough info for full reverse engineering, theres enough other information to know the system principles, which are nonsense
Quote from: Steve on Jun 15, 06:01 PM 2018
the product is from information turbo published freely himself. although i dont think theres enough info for full reverse engineering, theres enough other information to know the system principles, which are nonsense
So in one word a nonsense is being advertise to sell with real money? Can i call it scam?
Quote from: winkel on Apr 22, 04:55 AM 2018
Tis member let me call him a piece of s*h*i*t is too lazy to create a own strategy and sell it like a natural scammer. He is copying others work and sells under "HIS" copyright.
The result will be, that no serious roulette-thinker will ever publish any good idea on forums anymore.
Snowman found a friend in his undertaker business to forums.
When I get hold of you, i will definitly kill you, Randy Jones
I have the same problem, I posted a winning sports system in a forum 15 years ago and now this guy calls himself The Whale from the champ team is using my system and selling the picks from it.
Quote from: PassionRuleta on Jun 15, 06:20 PM 2018
Then you'll have to go find those who are selling that possible form of Turbo, but ami leave me alone that I do not sell anything. And less to you, to jekh and to sixth sense, you will never have possibilities for being a nefarious people towards me.
Do i need to bargain again with a scammer / intellectual property theft. We want scammer free forum. Email , pm , skype , whatsapp very typical scammer work.
Quote from: Madi on Jun 15, 07:22 PM 2018
Do i need to bargain again with a scammer / intellectual property theft. We want scammer free forum. Email , pm , skype , whatsapp very typical scammer work.
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There's one problem...there's nothing intellectual or original about the system whatsoever! It's just called betting on the hot numbers and chasing your losses by betting more until you win.
Quote from: The General on Jun 15, 08:49 PM 2018
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There's one problem...there's nothing intellectual or original about the system whatsoever! It's just called betting on the hot numbers and chasing your losses by betting more until you win.
The general, I agree totally with you. There's nothing new or exclusive about that system.
TurboGenius is just a sociopath fooling people... And Passionruleta will get a reality shock at some point.
It's cool discussing about roulette strategies. I like to play roulette but misleading the people like tg do is another thing...
I own a nice roulette strategy but I don't keep barking around the forum...
If it's not a bias wheel there's no difference betting hot numbers or random numbers.
Just try it. Pick up six hot numbers and bet them and start chasing you losses. At some point you will win. It will happens the same way if you bet random numbers. But at some point you will get a reality shock. It can win for months but at some point you will lose all your profit and more.
Have you ever stopped to think that the casinos give you the hot numbers to you see for free? This is to deceive players and give you the illusion that you are in control of numbers.
Imho
Wake up guys! Dint wast your time and money. Get out of Turbo land... I've had through this in the past...
Quote from: Andre Chass on Jun 15, 09:03 PM 2018
I own a nice roulette strategy but I don't keep barking around the forum...
:xd: but you just did...
And you have been barking a lot about your baccarat strategy... even leaving the forum at one stage because of it... then came back to sell it...
NOW THAT`S WHAT YOU CALL A CONTRADICTION!
I have a very good roulette system but i am at this point not willing to share it with you.
once i become rich, i will share with some guys !
Quote from: Gutroulett on Jun 15, 11:58 AM 2018
We got some request lately so here is our update.
We were looking for donations to compensate us for the time being invested to reverse-engineer the said session.
We did not get a single donation but we completed the task anyways and have the session of turbo uncovered.
It took us about 45 hours to do it. We have now every number he bet during the session and the amounts he put on the different numbers.
We also think about coding and testing it on several thousands of spins and sell it as a complete system for about $985,- on winning-roulette.com if it meets our standards.
As we are still working on the code for the automated test of Turbo’s System you can get the reverse-engineered 135 spins session including remarks that explain, what he does as a kind of early access or beta version of the final system we are going to sell.
You can purchase that for $579,95 which is about 35% discount of the final system’s price.
You are required to agree to our non-disclosure-terms to get it.
There is also a preview of the Excel file you will receive at
link:://:.winning-roulettesystems.com/order-form-system-tg.html (link:://:.winning-roulettesystems.com/order-form-system-tg.html)
FAQ:
Q: How do I know if this is the way Turbo is winning?
A: We can not provide proof that it is, but it is conform with the rules and hints he posted on different forums. The fact that he deleted the image with the profit graph from his original post on the forum after we announced to reverse-engineer the session is proof enough for us that this is an authentic session.
Q: Can I win like him with what you offer?
A: At this time we can give no guaranty you will win like he claims to do. But initial results of our automated tests show extended winning streaks and amazing profits even when just flat bet.
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Steve, will you please share your system that won for over a year with me and only me, I would like to sell it on this forum. :thumbsup:
Quote from: Andre Chass on Jun 15, 10:06 PM 2018
If it's not a bias wheel there's no difference betting hot numbers or random numbers.
Just try it. Pick up six hot numbers and bet them and start chasing you losses. At some point you will win. It will happens the same way if you bet random numbers. But at some point you will get a reality shock. It can win for months but at some point you will lose all your profit and more.
Have you ever stopped to think that the casinos give you the hot numbers to you see for free? This is to deceive players and give you the illusion that you are in control of numbers.
Imho
Wake up guys! Dint wast your time and money. Get out of Turbo land... I've had through this in the past...
Yes you're right. If you're betting numbers that are already hot, then you're playing it wrong. If you're chasing your losses, then you're playing wrong.
After several sessions on MPR my results are very good. The more aggressive the progression is, the higher is the potential win and the higher the bankroll should be. For low bankroll you should use a 1-2-3-4-5 progression.(//)