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Title: Out there, but interesting.
Post by: The General on Apr 23, 10:19 PM 2018
Proving precognition

link:s://:.popsci.com/tales-from-the-field-intelligence#page-6

"Starting in 2000, I’d found existence of precognition in nine experiments, by reversing the chronology of psychological tests. In one classic study, people take longer to recognize an image as pleasant when the word “ugly” flashes by before it. I flipped the order of events, so subjects viewed the image before seeing the subliminal word. I still found the same effect, showing they could “feel” the future. Eight of my experiments are replicable, and I’m redesigning the ninth one so everyone can get results from it too. In a way, I’m betting my career on it."
Title: Re: Out there, but interesting.
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 23, 11:05 PM 2018
your words show how out of touch you are

“Out there” is a simplistic analysis

A closed minded bloke

It isn’t “out there”

It is science. Our scientists are just starting to touch on it

Like dark matter, parallel universes, and dimensions beyond the 3rd. All real. We just don’t understand it yet
Title: Re: Out there, but interesting.
Post by: Bigbroben on Apr 24, 12:15 AM 2018
True,
the discovery of quantum physics opens many doors to new understanding/manipulation of our surroundings.

Some linked the power of the mind onto the physical world through quantic theory.
It is still far from theory to roulette outcome manipulation...
Title: Re: Out there, but interesting.
Post by: psimoes on Apr 24, 05:38 AM 2018
Every major advancement  in science and technology have always been exploited by charlatans, mad professors and idiots in general.
Electricity as cure for mental illness,
X-rays for bone diseases, atomic radiation as the cure for cancer, cocaine for fatigue, etc. Now it's "quantum mechanics applied to roulette as a means to predict random". Ok...
Title: Re: Out there, but interesting.
Post by: Bigbroben on Apr 24, 06:28 AM 2018
Quote from: psimoes on Apr 24, 05:38 AM 2018
Now it's "quantum mechanics applied to roulette as a means to predict random". Ok...

Did someone write about this?!?  Should be hard to prove...
Title: Re: Out there, but interesting.
Post by: psimoes on Apr 24, 07:40 AM 2018
Actually I made it up but seeing there's already a thread about it and who's promoting it, it just proves my point!
Although, there's some interesting find in that other thread.
Title: Re: Out there, but interesting.
Post by: psimoes on Apr 25, 02:09 AM 2018
Was there any control group in that test, composed by non-english speakers?
Title: Re: Out there, but interesting.
Post by: psimoes on Apr 25, 03:55 AM 2018
My point is: whatever the subliminal message is, it must not be related to, or in context with the same specific image, or what's happening is not precognition, but a mere Pavlov's Dog Reflex, where the pleasant image is the bell and the message is the food.
Title: Re: Out there, but interesting.
Post by: psimoes on Apr 25, 04:28 AM 2018
Although I can see the original point as a means to generate a reaction in the subject that can be verified and measured by the tester, it doesn't work like that.
Personally I don't believe in precognition but to those who do, well you must run a different test than this.
Title: Re: Out there, but interesting.
Post by: psimoes on Apr 25, 04:43 AM 2018
Running CAT scans will ruin your brain, so it's out of the question.
You could try with a Lie Detector to verify if the sight of one or more of the 37 numbers, or the color red, black or green trigger an emotional response on the subjects being tested, but then you not only would have to find a Precog, but one with issues.
Title: Re: Out there, but interesting.
Post by: Turner on Apr 25, 04:50 AM 2018
I think the only fantastic thing about pregognition is that we have a brain advanced enough to consider it.
Title: Re: Out there, but interesting.
Post by: psimoes on Apr 25, 04:56 AM 2018
ROFL or not being a precog and still picturing the General reading that and saying "Ouch!"
Title: Re: Out there, but interesting.
Post by: Turner on Apr 25, 05:04 AM 2018
Quote from: psimoes on Apr 25, 04:56 AM 2018
ROFL or not being a precog and still picturing the General reading that and saying "Ouch!"

lol

We must always remember that we are the only species that has delusions of grandeur, invents higher beings (like God and the Hoff)  and puts MSG in "initially" healthy food :thumbsup:



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Title: Re: Out there, but interesting.
Post by: Steve on Apr 25, 05:25 AM 2018
Precog is real. Theres ample clear proof. Can it be used in the manner needed for roulette is a different matter. Precog is based on emotion and feeling, not arbitrary numbers.
Title: Re: Out there, but interesting.
Post by: psimoes on Apr 25, 05:43 AM 2018
I don't have a pet peeve against David Hasselhoff, he makes me think of Pamela Anderson LOL
Title: Re: Out there, but interesting.
Post by: psimoes on Apr 25, 06:02 AM 2018
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Quote from: Steve on Apr 25, 05:25 AM 2018
Precog is real. Theres ample clear proof. Can it be used in the manner needed for roulette is a different matter. Precog is based on emotion and feeling, not arbitrary numbers.
I'd like to see that proof.
Arbitrary numbers as you refer is missing the point, I think.
Title: Re: Out there, but interesting.
Post by: Taotie on Apr 25, 06:18 AM 2018
The thing I like most about precognitive prediction is the fact that the vast majority of the time you are going to be wrong.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Out there, but interesting.
Post by: Bigbroben on Apr 25, 06:41 AM 2018
Quote from: Steve on Apr 25, 05:25 AM 2018
Precog is real. Theres ample clear proof. Can it be used in the manner needed for roulette is a different matter. Precog is based on emotion and feeling, not arbitrary numbers.

Agree
Title: Re: Out there, but interesting.
Post by: Steve on Apr 25, 06:46 AM 2018
Some reputable test results were sent to me privately so i won't publish them. But similar tests show the same result. My own tests show the same. Again i believe there's ample evidence. Start with "global consciousness project".

I'll publish more information eventually. It's a complicated situation so the broader picture should be explained. Otherwise the information could be misleading.

Basically it appears definitely viable but not so simple. But when the ability is achieved, profit becomes a waste of time compared to other uses.
Title: Re: Out there, but interesting.
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 25, 07:03 AM 2018
I always knew Caleb was anti science.

So I found out yesterday scientists discovered a galaxy with no dark matter

it’s the only one they found like it and it has half a percentage point of stars our galaxy has

We know nothing about this universe.
Title: Re: Out there, but interesting.
Post by: Bigbroben on Apr 25, 07:08 AM 2018
The heck?

Dark matter is still  a theory, as far as I know..  Did they find a way to detect dark matter yet?
Title: Re: Out there, but interesting.
Post by: Taotie on Apr 25, 07:20 AM 2018
Quote from: Steve on Apr 25, 06:46 AM 2018...when the ability is achieved, profit becomes a waste of time compared to other uses.

This is the crux of it. Only those with a truly lawless attitude and complete lack of conscience could ever make a go of it, me thinks.
Title: Re: Out there, but interesting.
Post by: psimoes on Apr 25, 07:24 AM 2018
The best yet were the newsblogs saying japanese scientists had discovered that mcdonalds french fries were the cure for baldness heh
Title: Re: Out there, but interesting.
Post by: Turner on Apr 25, 08:48 AM 2018
Quote from: Bigbroben on Apr 25, 07:08 AM 2018
The heck?

Dark matter is still  a theory, as far as I know..  Did they find a way to detect dark matter yet?
For the calculated matter in the universe, it shouldnt be accelerating. Something we cant measure which is adding to the mass is causing it to.

Rather than saying they dont know what it is,  they called it dark matter...dark energy.

Its not like looking for a needle in a haystack
Its like looking for something in something else but you dont know what either is
Title: Re: Out there, but interesting.
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 25, 11:30 AM 2018
Quote from: Bigbroben on Apr 25, 07:08 AM 2018
The heck?

Dark matter is still  a theory, as far as I know..  Did they find a way to detect dark matter yet?

It is just fascinating that in billions of galaxies they found one not like the rest at all. Lacking something. They assume dark matter

Couple that with parallel universe theory. The fact there is 12 dimensions. And we can’t even fathom traveling our own galaxy, we really know nothing.
Title: Re: Out there, but interesting.
Post by: Bigbroben on Apr 25, 11:37 AM 2018
There must actually be more than what can be sensed by any frequency we know of.  And dark matter explains a lot.  It's like those sub-atomic particles, and laws, that were expected before to be found eventually.

Did you know black holes do evaporate?  Crazy.

Do you have a link for the found galaxy?
Title: Re: Out there, but interesting.
Post by: Turner on Apr 25, 11:48 AM 2018
Quote from: Bigbroben on Apr 25, 11:37 AM 2018Did you know black holes do evaporate?  Crazy.
Hawking Radiation
Title: Re: Out there, but interesting.
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 25, 12:20 PM 2018
link:://astronomy.com/news/2018/03/the-galaxy-devoid-of-dark-matter



link:s://:.space.com/40119-ghostly-galaxy-almost-no-dark-matter.html


link:s://:.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/galaxy-without-dark-matter-shakes-astronomy-180968628/


I want to know what’s in dimensions 4-12

:o
Title: Re: Out there, but interesting.
Post by: Bigbroben on Apr 25, 12:29 PM 2018
Quote from: Turner on Apr 25, 11:48 AM 2018
Hawking Radiation

Exact.
Title: Re: Out there, but interesting.
Post by: Joe on Apr 25, 12:40 PM 2018
Quote from: The General on Apr 23, 10:19 PM 2018"Starting in 2000, I’d found existence of precognition in nine experiments, by reversing the chronology of psychological tests. In one classic study, people take longer to recognize an image as pleasant when the word “ugly” flashes by before it. I flipped the order of events, so subjects viewed the image before seeing the subliminal word. I still found the same effect, showing they could “feel” the future. Eight of my experiments are replicable, and I’m redesigning the ninth one so everyone can get results from it too. In a way, I’m betting my career on it."

Nobody was able to replicate his results and his study was badly flawed.

link:s://:.csicop.org/si/show/failure_to_replicate_results_of_bem_parapsychology_experiments_published_by

Personally I find the whole parapsychology thing ludicrous, especially precognition. If precognition was true it would mean an effect happened before its cause.  :o

There is no scientific evidence for it although many people believe in it.
Title: Re: Out there, but interesting.
Post by: Turner on Apr 25, 01:44 PM 2018
Quote from: CoderJoe on Apr 25, 12:40 PM 2018Personally I find the whole parapsychology thing ludicrous, especially precognition. If precognition was true it would mean an effect happened before its cause
Totally agree....and what a great answer :thumbsup:

It called the laws of casualty. They cant be broken....like an egg cant be unbroken or the milk in a coffee goes back to one spot.

The arrow of time is one direction only. Forward, with entropy always increasing.

See 2nd Law of Thermodynamics.
Title: Re: Out there, but interesting.
Post by: nottophammer on Apr 25, 01:51 PM 2018
i'm on 1st law of the third, still
Title: Re: Out there, but interesting.
Post by: maestro on Apr 25, 02:11 PM 2018
Quoteentropy always increasing

not necessarily
Title: Re: Out there, but interesting.
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 25, 02:22 PM 2018
The arrow of Time is not straight forward

Time bends in space.

I recommend the string theory - PBS series

Touches on it all


link:://:.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/physics/elegant-universe.html


Time is not fixed. You can travel back and forth

Parallel universes are also a reality

Watch above link and report back

Not conspiracy. It’s string theory and a Stephen hawking production.

Title: Re: Out there, but interesting.
Post by: Turner on Apr 25, 02:41 PM 2018
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Apr 25, 02:22 PM 2018
The arrow of Time is not straight forward

Time bends in space.

I recommend the string theory - PBS series

Touches on it all


link:://:.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/physics/elegant-universe.html


Time is not fixed. You can travel back and forth

Parallel universes are also a reality

Watch above link and report back

Not conspiracy. It’s string theory and a Stephen hawking production.
String theory doesnt have the word theory in it for no reason.
Read the 2nd law of thermodynamics.
Time only goes forward.
Theoretically...if we travel away from the earth close to the speed of light for several years and come back to earth....it will be thousands of years in the future.
Thats still only forward in time. Thats not theory....its Einsteins law of relativity. Its been proven over and over
Atomic clocks flown round the world being slower than the one that stayed put.
You cant break casualty. Cause must come before effect and therefore to travel back in time is impossible.
That doesnt mean there arnt theories on travelling back in time but I am talking about current proven facts

Be careful what you read into what you read
Title: Re: Out there, but interesting.
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 25, 02:50 PM 2018
Time is something that can be manipulated. This is a scientific fact

Time bends in space

If you travel through a wormhole in space when you come back you may have aged 5 minutes where everyone you know on earth is dead.

Title: Re: Out there, but interesting.
Post by: Tinsoldiers on Apr 25, 02:52 PM 2018
Quote from: Turner on Apr 25, 02:41 PM 2018Be careful what you read into what you read
Best statement I have read in a while. Most of the threads in this forum will remind me of this quote. 
Title: Re: Out there, but interesting.
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 25, 02:55 PM 2018
String theory, worm holes, dimensions, Time, are some of the most interesting things to come out of Stephen hawking

That was the best PBS educational I’ve ever seen

I implore you to watch.


Oh, also the fact that global warming is a moot point. Our sun is a star that will continue to grow. In a few million years this planet won’t be habitable so we will have to leave :)

Title: Re: Out there, but interesting.
Post by: Roulettebeater on Apr 25, 03:29 PM 2018
People are watching/enjoying the game (real vs Bayern ) and you guys still logged in here and dreaming of the holly grail that has never came.
Title: Re: Out there, but interesting.
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 25, 03:35 PM 2018
Quote from: Roulettebeater on Apr 25, 03:29 PM 2018
People are watching/enjoying the game (real vs Bayern ) and you guys still logged in here and dreaming of the holly grail that has never came.


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Title: Re: Out there, but interesting.
Post by: Roulettebeater on Apr 25, 03:41 PM 2018
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Apr 25, 03:35 PM 2018

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RG,

Stop flashing your eyes, if you wish you can keep your eyes shut and dream well

:)
Title: Re: Out there, but interesting.
Post by: DoctorSudoku on Apr 25, 03:46 PM 2018
Quote from: Turner on Apr 25, 08:48 AM 2018
For the calculated matter in the universe, it shouldnt be accelerating. Something we cant measure which is adding to the mass is causing it to.

Rather than saying they dont know what it is,  they called it dark matter...dark energy.

Its not like looking for a needle in a haystack
Its like looking for something in something else but you dont know what either is


Turner,
There is something anomalous about gravity, especially when its action is considered over very, very large distances.

Our current understanding of gravitation, thus, has difficulty explaining observations, like the ever-accelerating universe or the abnormally fast rotating stars in the outer edges of galaxies.

Just like Newton's understanding of gravity was supplanted and superseded by Einstein's explanation of gravity by means of the general theory of relativity, the latter will also one day be supplanted and superseded by an even more fundamental theory of gravity.

As controversial as it may sound today, Einstein's general theory of relativity is NOT the final story written about the force of gravity.
Title: Re: Out there, but interesting.
Post by: Turner on Apr 25, 03:50 PM 2018
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Apr 25, 02:50 PM 2018

If you travel through a wormhole in space when you come back you may have aged 5 minutes where everyone you know on earth is dead.

RG....that would be travelling into the future. Everyone is dead because its years in the future.

Thats not going back in time.

That would be:

If you travel through a wormhole in space when you come back you may have aged 5 minutes where everyone you know on earth havnt been born yet.
Title: Re: Out there, but interesting.
Post by: Scarface on Apr 25, 04:10 PM 2018
There have been lots of scientific experiments that validate precognition and intuition over the last 20 years.

Some might find this interesting...for details Google "Roulette Protocol."  Basically, the experiment concluded that the heart rate rhythm predicted weather or not the subject would when or lose.  Heart rate rythem increased pre bet and post bet when the subject won before the results.  Paying attention to your body signals, or intuition, could help.  It's almost like our body knows, even though our conscious brain doesn't

Here's a link to the study link:s://:.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4010965/
Title: Re: Out there, but interesting.
Post by: Turner on Apr 25, 04:19 PM 2018
Quote from: DoctorSudoku on Apr 25, 03:46 PM 2018

There is something anomalous about gravity, especially when its action is considered over very, very large distances.

Our current understanding of gravitation, thus, has difficulty explaining observations, like the ever-accelerating universe or the abnormally fast rotating stars in the outer edges of galaxies.


this is back to what I said though in a roundabout way. Gravity is present where there is mass. its a very weak force compared to the other forces. Weaker by thousands of times. We know what gravity does and how it works, but things are doing strange things, as you mentioned above, which indicates that there is more mass than we can see.
We dont know what it is, and that thing we dont know is currently called dark matter/energy.

Its not Gravity we dont understand. Its that we dont know why things act as if there is much more mass than we can see.

what we definatly dont know about gravity is why it exists. All other forces are subject to a certain particle. We know what they are, but we dont know what particle or wave causes gravity

I think Precognition is the sort of thing that would happen in the quantum world...not in the gravitational world we know and love.

Thats the world of things being in 2 places at the same time and not being there if we look at them. Thats the world of the bizarre...and thats where precognition belongs. In the world of the bizarre :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Out there, but interesting.
Post by: Bigbroben on Apr 25, 04:51 PM 2018
I don't think a graviton has been observed yet, still gravity works.

Does gravity acts instantaneously or a light speed?  Can forces be active without ''particles''?  Even light: we don't know yet if particle or wave.  Maybe none of the above, it can't be explained yet, it will probably be with quantum knowledge.

Then again, knowledge is one thing, it's application another...

In a few civilisation man will find the only force is LOVE !!!  >:D


Is this the ''lounge'' thread or what!

I'll tell you in a couple of reincarnation, if I ever get there...

Title: Re: Out there, but interesting.
Post by: Turner on Apr 25, 05:37 PM 2018
Quote from: Bigbroben on Apr 25, 04:51 PM 2018Does gravity acts instantaneously or a light speed
Gravity doesnt act. It bends space-time.

Objects are drawn towards a large body because the straight line they travel on is bent by gravity (very simplified)
Title: Re: Out there, but interesting.
Post by: DoctorSudoku on Apr 25, 05:41 PM 2018
Quote from: Turner on Apr 25, 04:19 PM 2018



We know what gravity does and how it works, but things are doing strange things, as you mentioned above, which indicates that there is more mass than we can see.

We dont know what it is, and that thing we dont know is currently called dark matter/energy.

Its not Gravity we dont understand. Its that we dont know why things act as if there is much more mass than we can see.




Do we really understand gravity?

Is there really any additional invisible matter that we cannot otherwise detect?

Maybe we do NOT really understand gravity and to explain the ever-accelerating universe and the oddly fast rotating stars in the outer edges of galaxies, we have to assume / invoke additional invisible mass (that we are calling dark matter).

That was the original thrust of my previous post -- that we do NOT really understand all the details about gravity (as per our current favorite theory of gravity -- Einstein's general theory of relativity).

In other words, maybe there is no extra invisible mass in the universe (that is, there is no dark matter !).

Our main theory of gravity -- Einstein's general theory of relativity -- is possibly the weak link here.

And sometime in the next few decades or centuries, it will be superseded by a more correct theory of gravity
-- and we will no longer need any dark matter to explain the currently inexplicable stuff that I mentioned before.
Title: Re: Out there, but interesting.
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 25, 05:46 PM 2018
Precognition is “a thing” because the future has already occurred

Scientists Know parallel universes likely exist. The idea is that the past present and future are happening simultaneously

In theory you can travel to the future either at a very fast speed or though wormholes which exists through space


The fabric of time is not completely understood yet.


Quote

Everything that has happened and everything that will happen is occurring right now as time is positioned in space.

The theory, mustered up by Dr Bradford Skow, an associated professor of philosophy at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT), states that if we were to “look down” on the universe, we would see time and events spread out in all directions.


Fathom this: at the center of each galaxy is a black hole leading to another universe.....

Multiverse.
Title: Re: Out there, but interesting.
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 25, 05:53 PM 2018
If the theories are correct there are billions of other “you” that exist simultaneously in parallel realities. No longer conspiracy but science is creeping in it.
Title: Re: Out there, but interesting.
Post by: Turner on Apr 25, 06:04 PM 2018
Quote from: DoctorSudoku on Apr 25, 05:41 PM 2018Our main theory of gravity -- Einstein's general theory of relativity -- is possibly the weak link here.

And sometime in the next few decades or centuries, it will be superseded by a more correct theory of gravity

Goes without saying I think

We need a theory of quantum gravity first. Then we may find a theory of everything which would encompass newtons physics with quantum physics. Currently they live quite separately.

Perhaps thats when we discover what causes the anomalies we attribute to dark matter/energy

Personally, M-theory doesnt cut it for me. Superstrings and brains and many dimensions. M theory is still incomplete and full of curve fitting (no pun intended)

I think it will be much more simpler than all that and will be something we can all understand.
Title: Re: Out there, but interesting.
Post by: Turner on Apr 25, 06:11 PM 2018
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Apr 25, 05:53 PM 2018billions of other “you” that exist simultaneously in parallel realities
not billions but an infinite amount.

That where quackery comes in.
Googolplexes, and even Grahams number are insignificant compared to infinity. Seems odd to me to base theories on something we cant comprehend or understand

Someone called Turner with a Patrick McNee avatar in an identical forum using an identical language, also called English, just typed the same thing in a parallel universe. I dont buy it.

Does probability even work in the bounds of infinity?.

We dont know, is the show stopper, and one of many assumptions needed
Title: Re: Out there, but interesting.
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 25, 06:33 PM 2018
Not so fast turner

Not so fast



link:s://:.space.com/32728-parallel-universes.html

Keep in mind. The smartest people in the world support the theory

We don’t even know what goes on in dimensions 4 through 12. Let that sink in. This universe is 12 dimensional.
Title: Re: Out there, but interesting.
Post by: Blueprint on Apr 25, 06:37 PM 2018
Quote from: Tinsoldiers on Apr 25, 02:52 PM 2018
Best statement I have read in a while. Most of the threads in this forum will remind me of this quote.

::)
Title: Re: Out there, but interesting.
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 25, 06:39 PM 2018
Quote from: Tinsoldiers on Apr 25, 02:52 PM 2018
Best statement I have read in a while. Most of the threads in this forum will remind me of this quote.

Must have missed your endless plethora of stellar contributions.
Title: Re: Out there, but interesting.
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 25, 06:47 PM 2018
the evidence on the multiverse theory is mounting

it was strongly supported by hawking and todays science community continues to uncover evidence

the best theories on how universes begin is VIA black holes...which is at the center of every galaxy...if this holds true then we are talking about trillions of universes
Title: Re: Out there, but interesting.
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 25, 06:51 PM 2018
in a 12 dimension universe where we can only comprehend 3 dimensions, things can get very weird....things are "living" in higher dimensions






Title: Re: Out there, but interesting.
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 25, 07:09 PM 2018
"We are living in a three dimensional world, (possessing length, width and height), so we are unable to see the fourth dimension, as our physical world is constructed within these three physical dimensions only. We might feel or imagine time’s presence, but we can never actually detect it with our three-dimensional senses because it extends beyond our universe. We can only perceive time - the fourth dimension - as memories lodged at different intervals, with the result we perceive time moving in one direction - forward. A demonstration of four dimensional space-time’s inseparability is the fact that we cannot look into space without looking back in time - like we see the Moon as it was ~1.2 seconds ago and the Sun as it was ~8 minutes ago and so on."

Time is the fourth dimension in the science world

Want to know something wild? The movie interstellar with matthew mcconaughey had a beautiful representation of how time can change.....

On an extremely large planet which has a mass so big, one year spent on that planet can be 15 earth years for example...

this effect is throughout the universe.

this stuff really fascinates me because we know very little

"Time dilation near a black hole, with its extreme gravitational field, is intensified until time at the event horizon appears to be stopped completely. That is why black holes have also been referred to as 'frozen stars'. "

flat earthers are retards.
Title: Re: Out there, but interesting.
Post by: Bigbroben on Apr 25, 08:21 PM 2018
Well I'll just throw the word "toroidal" in here...
Title: Re: Out there, but interesting.
Post by: Bigbroben on Apr 25, 08:27 PM 2018
Quote from: Turner on Apr 25, 05:37 PM 2018
Gravity doesnt act. It bends space-time.

Objects are drawn towards a large body because the straight line they travel on is bent by gravity (very simplified)

Ok say suddenly a massive object pops in near Uranus (I know). How quick gravitational deviation would be felt in earth?  Instantaneously or light speed time or any other?
Title: Re: Out there, but interesting.
Post by: Bigbroben on Apr 25, 08:34 PM 2018
Quote from: Steve on Apr 25, 05:25 AM 2018
Precog is real. Theres ample clear proof. Can it be used in the manner needed for roulette is a different matter. Precog is based on emotion and feeling, not arbitrary numbers.

Precognition might be easier when interacting with another living being, if it is to be understood as an other sense we livings have.  I "feel" you will call me, but I'll have a hard time feeling a piano will fall on me.  In extenso: with training it would be easier to remote-see or pre-know your opponent's card at poker than a future nr at roulette.
Title: Re: Out there, but interesting.
Post by: DoctorSudoku on Apr 25, 08:36 PM 2018
Quote from: Bigbroben on Apr 25, 08:27 PM 2018
Ok say suddenly a massive object pops in near Uranus (I know). How quick gravitational deviation would be felt in earth?  Instantaneously or light speed time or any other?


Modern physics would say at the speed of light.

Remember, in modern physics, one of the most fundamental assumptions is that nothing travels faster than light, including the gravitational field.
Title: Re: Out there, but interesting.
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 25, 08:56 PM 2018
I went on many tangents. Mainly because I love astronomy and physics. And how we are just learning how intense it can be

But I will say this, if an object large enough to warp time approaches Uranus, RUN!




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Title: Re: Out there, but interesting.
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 25, 08:57 PM 2018
Quote from: DoctorSudoku on Apr 25, 08:36 PM 2018

Modern physics would say at the speed of light.

Remember, in modern physics, one of the most fundamental assumptions is that nothing travels faster than light, including the gravitational field.

Modern physics as we know it is only a small part of physics. Parts of this universe where physics as we know it doesn’t exist.
Title: Re: Out there, but interesting.
Post by: DoctorSudoku on Apr 25, 09:14 PM 2018
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Apr 25, 08:57 PM 2018

Modern physics as we know it is only a small part of physics. Parts of this universe where physics as we know it doesn’t exist.



I agree with you that we are, figuratively speaking, trying to impose our current theories of physics (including quantum mechanics and Einstein's general theory of relativity) on the whole universe, keeping in mind the fact that we are basing these theories on our observations of only a very small part of the universe (namely, our neighborhood -- that of our planet and the solar system).

That is one of the reasons I said before that Einstein's general theory of relativity may very well be an incomplete theory of gravitation.
Title: Re: Out there, but interesting.
Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 25, 09:34 PM 2018
the idea that past/present/future exists simultaneously is borderline provable

you can goto the future at the proper speed where people on earth age while you stay same age

you can do that right now given proper equipment.....which it is debatable if lockheed martin possesses such equipment

so if going to "the future" is possible by fast travel or wormholes then yes it exists as we speak

the fabric of time is bendable....it can be maniupalted, this we already know
Title: Re: Out there, but interesting.
Post by: Bigbroben on Apr 25, 09:46 PM 2018
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Apr 25, 08:56 PM 2018
But I will say this, if an object large enough to warp time approaches Uranus, RUN!

In which direction may I ask, if the Earth is spinning?
Title: Re: Out there, but interesting.
Post by: psimoes on Apr 26, 02:42 AM 2018
Don't run. Just turn around and nuke that bastatd to the 13th dimension.
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Post by: Steve on Apr 26, 03:37 AM 2018
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Apr 25, 09:34 PM 2018the idea that past/present/future exists simultaneously is borderline provable

This makes perfect sense with mushrooms. Make much less sense without them. Strangely i think the shrooms have a point considering the broader picture.
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Post by: psimoes on Apr 26, 04:11 AM 2018
Dark matter is nonsense. Admitting the universe is expanding, do you think it would just go on forever into Nothingness? There's no positive momentum alone, without a negative that pulls it. Like with electricity, there must be a difference of potential otherwise electrons won't travel. Obviously an encapsulating gravitational force that surrounds the universe is sucking matter in so it just accelerates without the aid of extra mass.
There, not only this solves one of the greates misteries of the universe, it automatically proves precognition is real!
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Post by: RouletteGhost on Apr 26, 09:17 AM 2018
I cannot recommend the PBS special ‘the elegant universe’ enough.

It is free
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Post by: psimoes on Apr 26, 12:40 PM 2018
Tried to watch but the primary colors and the loud background music didn't help. Plus the constant 'kaboom' and 'woosh' sound effects were annoying. Looks like they were trying too hard to make the matter more interesting to I don't know what kind of demographic, but it was certainly not mine. Fell asleep. Sorry. I prefer the old-school documentaries the Boards Of Canada like to evoque in their songs and videos.
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Post by: psimoes on Apr 27, 03:19 AM 2018
What most people need to learn is: science and technology destroy myths, don't validate them.