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Title: Should or could
Post by: nottophammer on Apr 24, 04:59 AM 2018
If members try to win with Non-hits, your starting point is spin 1; you now know how many non-hit left, again spin 2 you'll see how many non-hit left and how many repeats have come.

So should or could is the question.

Winkel you must have millions of spins collected, in your Gut method you give 3 reference points, points 13-25-37;

Point 13; can we say at spin 13 we should of had 2 repeats or do i have to say could?

I would like to think with large volumes of collected data, 2 repeats should have appeared is valid.

I'll show why

Title: Re: Should or could
Post by: nottophammer on Apr 24, 05:08 AM 2018
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Above, if 2 repeats should have appeared what is your decision going to be, bet now that a repeat is DUE.

Or just KTF, carry on betting for non-hit, the larger group, but if      SHOULD    is valid, then the decision SHOULD be bet repeat
Title: Re: Should or could
Post by: nottophammer on Apr 24, 05:44 AM 2018
Lets look at this from ROTT (ROSS)

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Best tool for seeing the TROT of the non-hit is COUNTBACK. What is countback, it's the 15 non-hit we should get in spins 11-40
Now if you've read GUT( everyone needs to read it) you will know of reference points 13,25,37;

So here we see spin 13; the 12th non-hit has hit, now you think to Winkels reference point 13; you look at countback and see where the 12th should have come spins 15/16: should we not of had 2 repeats by now?


Nimo,Wally the Blue +10 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Should or could
Post by: nottophammer on Apr 24, 06:04 AM 2018
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So if you decided to bet for a repeat, you've won.
Now non-hit, we see the 13th has hit, look to its position on countback, non-hit need to slow, 5 non-hit is fair in spins 11-20; but the usual is 7,+2: 1 more non-hit for the fair game or 3 more to get the usual, me i'd wait till spin18, if more non-hit come and we're just watching so what, you already have won some units.
Title: Re: Should or could
Post by: nottophammer on Apr 24, 06:17 AM 2018
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okay the game has balanced by repeats, so waiting has got to spin 18, i would now start to bet for the 14th non-hit.
If 2 more non-hit come it will be 6,+1 if only 1 more non-hit the fair game of 5 non-hit will have come meaning an even game.

Lets assume we end 5,+0 in the next 10 spins 21-30 the larger group are still favorite to show.

Nextyear look betting on 5
Title: Re: Should or could
Post by: nottophammer on Apr 24, 06:27 AM 2018
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More repeats than non-hit
Title: Re: Should or could
Post by: nottophammer on Apr 24, 06:36 AM 2018
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14th is in and non-hit are slow. If its a fair game at spin 29/30 it will be 10,+0;  5,5 so possible 5 more non-hit, but usual is 12,+2;  7,5; so the larger group should show, so bet for 15th
Title: Re: Should or could
Post by: jekhb76 on Apr 24, 06:39 AM 2018
I think the HG consit of capturing the uniques and the repeaters All at once. To make sure None Will slip through our fingers.
Title: Re: Should or could
Post by: nottophammer on Apr 24, 06:44 AM 2018
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15th 4 spins if you was just watching the average to hit is 2 spins. The non-hit are like snails so slow here at reference 25 non-hit behind.
If next 4 spins are non-hit it is a balanced game.
Title: Re: Should or could
Post by: Taotie on Apr 24, 06:46 AM 2018
Seriously notto, I don't understand a bloody word you're saying, sorry.


....anyone else?
Title: Re: Should or could
Post by: nottophammer on Apr 24, 06:50 AM 2018
Quote from: jekhb76 on Apr 24, 06:39 AM 2018
I think the HG consit of capturing the uniques and the repeaters All at once. To make sure None Will slip through our fingers.

Think of a river, you're standing on the riverbank with your net. Well are we not in a stream of spins, be it 1/37; we don't know how the stream will come.

So if you collect 1000's of streams is there not an average. So do I just throw the average 15.7 non-hit in spins 11-40 away?
Title: Re: Should or could
Post by: nottophammer on Apr 24, 06:50 AM 2018
Quote from: Taotie on Apr 24, 06:46 AM 2018
Seriously notto, I don't understand a bloody word you're saying, sorry.


....anyone else?

Good then we wont see you in here again
Title: Re: Should or could
Post by: nottophammer on Apr 24, 06:52 AM 2018
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Title: Re: Should or could
Post by: nottophammer on Apr 24, 06:56 AM 2018
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There 15 non-hit in spins 11-40

Numbers supplied by Mortagon.
Title: Re: Should or could
Post by: nottophammer on Apr 24, 07:02 AM 2018
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Nothing to the few
Title: Re: Should or could
Post by: Nimo on Apr 24, 07:08 AM 2018
Quote from: jekhb76 on Apr 24, 06:39 AM 2018
I think the HG consit of capturing the uniques and the repeaters All at once. To make sure None Will slip through our fingers.

Count back is closest you will get.  It basically tells you when and what to bet
Title: Re: Should or could
Post by: Roulettebeater on Apr 24, 07:12 AM 2018
Quote from: jekhb76 on Apr 24, 06:39 AM 2018
I think the HG consit of capturing the uniques and the repeaters All at once. To make sure None Will slip through our fingers.

Yes exactly the HG consists of betting the 37 numbers altogether, then you have zero chance your numbers won't hit

:)
Title: Re: Should or could
Post by: nottophammer on Apr 24, 07:45 AM 2018
Quote from: Roulettebeater on Apr 24, 07:12 AM 2018
Yes exactly the HG consists of betting the 37 numbers altogether, then you have zero chance your numbers won't hit

:)

Jester do you mean like this
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Title: Re: Should or could
Post by: Bigbroben on Apr 24, 07:50 AM 2018
Quote from: Roulettebeater on Apr 24, 07:12 AM 2018
Yes exactly the HG consists of betting the 37 numbers altogether, then you have zero chance your numbers won't hit

:)

Yes, and use a progression to recover from the -1 at last spin!
Title: Re: Should or could
Post by: nottophammer on Apr 24, 11:13 AM 2018
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-1; ?

spin 11 bet 29 lost
spin12 bet (29*2) 58  plus bet the 8; 1hit.  win with the non-hit 37 #'s bet
spin13 bet 28              plus bet the 9; 1 hit (9*2)  win with the non-hit
spin14 bet 27              plus bet the 10; 1hit (10*3) win with the 1 hit

Betting all 37#'s +18
Title: Re: Should or could
Post by: Roulettebeater on Apr 24, 11:29 AM 2018
So what I get ? I gave you the tip !

Be happy
Title: Re: Should or could
Post by: nottophammer on Apr 24, 01:06 PM 2018
Quote from: Roulettebeater on Apr 24, 11:29 AM 2018
So what I get ? I gave you the tip !

Be happy
I'll give you a free tip, it dont always work 
Title: Re: Should or could
Post by: DoctorSudoku on Apr 24, 06:22 PM 2018
Quote from: jekhb76 on Apr 24, 06:39 AM 2018

I think the HG consit of capturing the uniques and the repeaters All at once. To make sure None Will slip through our fingers.


In theory, that might seem to be the case. But, in reality, that  is way too many numbers to bet. And when new uniques are turning up with each new spin, you are losing money on all the numbers that you are betting on. The drawdowns on your bank roll can get quite severe.

Title: Re: Should or could
Post by: The General on Apr 25, 07:32 PM 2018
Betting so many numbers just ensures that you will inevitably become a long term loser sooner rather than later.