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Title: laurence scott VB book
Post by: onlinemelk on Apr 27, 04:03 AM 2018
Hello guys

I need this book

Professional Roulette Prediction: Volume 1 Basic Methods

the price is very high for buy , is anyone can help me to access this book ?

Highest Regards
Title: Re: laurence scott VB book
Post by: Steve on Apr 27, 05:06 AM 2018
Its good but the important parts can be summed up in a paragraph. There is enough free information to learn vb.
Title: Re: laurence scott VB book
Post by: onlinemelk on Apr 27, 09:08 AM 2018
so show me if exist ?  :)
Title: Re: laurence scott VB book
Post by: ego on Apr 27, 09:36 AM 2018

I would recommend Mastersroulette, you find a link to there 300$ PDF in the topic below.

link:s://forum.x/index.php?topic=1997.msg28791#msg28791

Cheers
Title: Re: laurence scott VB book
Post by: onlinemelk on Apr 27, 10:03 AM 2018
Quote from: ego on Apr 27, 09:36 AM 2018
I would recommend Mastersroulette, you find a link to there 300$ PDF in the topic below.

link:s://forum.x/index.php?topic=1997.msg28791#msg28791

Cheers

Hello Lego

Thank you for response .

I had it already ,I can't understand it well , it's  not clear for me enough , I'm looking for better ebook .

I saw on the internet that laurence scott book is better of them . he speaks about ball speed clear that missed in others .

am I right ?
Title: Re: laurence scott VB book
Post by: ego on Apr 27, 12:23 PM 2018

I can show you in public ...

Download free metronome from google app store.
Make the setting vibrate with no sound and set it to vibrate once every second, 60 pbm.

Now search for a roulette wheel video on youtube, for example Bob Gordon Roulette Spins or Jafco or Mastersroulette or any other.

Instructions to predict when ball has around early or late 9 sec until drop, hitting deflector.
Estimate ball speed.

Each time you feel the metronome vibrate, watch what position that ball has on the ball track.
In the beginning you will see the ball at different place each time your metronome vibrate.

But during one moment you will see the ball in the same place during two vibrations.
In same place or very close to same place.

At this moment you will have early or late 9 seconds until ball drop into deflector.
Same for each and every spin.
You get 9 to 10 out of 10 predictions correct estimating ball speed that way.

This happens when you see ball in same place on the ball track during two vibrations.
Then ball goes from faster then 1 second to slower then 1 second, the breaking point.

What you do is that you read your reference number below reference deflector when ball has 9 second until drop.
See mastersroulette description about dominant drop zone.

This is superior method then LS crossover.

If they say No More Bets early you only change the time for the estimation process, for example 0.7 seconds.
  Thats it.

Rotor you just watch number below deflector when ball is over and take two, three vibrations and see how many pockets rotor travel.
Start to predict and play with same rotor speeds.

Cheers
Title: Re: laurence scott VB book
Post by: onlinemelk on Apr 27, 01:09 PM 2018
Thank you so much ego  :thumbsup: it's very helpfull for me .
Title: Re: laurence scott VB book
Post by: denzie on Apr 27, 01:27 PM 2018
Quote from: ego on Apr 27, 12:23 PM 2018
I can show you in public ...

Download free metronome from google app store.
Make the setting vibrate with no sound and set it to vibrate once every second, 60 pbm.

Now search for a roulette wheel video on youtube, for example Bob Gordon Roulette Spins or Jafco or Mastersroulette or any other.

Instructions to predict when ball has around early or late 9 sec until drop, hitting deflector.
Estimate ball speed.

Each time you feel the metronome vibrate, watch what position that ball has on the ball track.
In the beginning you will see the ball at different place each time your metronome vibrate.

But during one moment you will see the ball in the same place during two vibrations.
In same place or very close to same place.

At this moment you will have early or late 9 seconds until ball drop into deflector.
Same for each and every spin.
You get 9 to 10 out of 10 predictions correct estimating ball speed that way.

This happens when you see ball in same place on the ball track during two vibrations.
Then ball goes from faster then 1 second to slower then 1 second, the breaking point.

What you do is that you read your reference number below reference deflector when ball has 9 second until drop.
See mastersroulette description about dominant drop zone.

This is superior method then LS crossover.

If they say No More Bets early you only change the time for the estimation process, for example 0.7 seconds.
  Thats it.

Rotor you just watch number below deflector when ball is over and take two, three vibrations and see how many pockets rotor travel.
Start to predict and play with same rotor speeds.

Cheers

:thumbsup:
Title: Re: laurence scott VB book
Post by: Steve on Apr 27, 05:55 PM 2018
Yes if you use vb, you may as well use a thumper. It is still often illegal but yoid never get prosecuted for that because they cant prove it. Everyone has a phone.

Detecting the key revolution is easy.

But what happens if the rotor speed is significantly different in other spins? And what happens when ball deceleration changes? The solutions must be practical. Its where vb techniques fail. My best vb method uses angle correlation to adjust but it still takes skill.
Title: Re: laurence scott VB book
Post by: ego on Apr 28, 04:48 AM 2018

I have seen several solutions using rotor/ball combinations with angles and I don't see them being superior.
The method I show is superior as you almost never predict wrong and is the most stable solution.

  Problem with rotor/ball combination is that ball can cheat you at the very end with one more or one less rotation.
It has to do with ball deceleration patterns, but almost never happens when you only predict ball speed by itself with the method I mention above.

  Cheers

Title: Re: laurence scott VB book
Post by: Steve on Apr 28, 05:12 AM 2018
Ego as far as i can see what you explained doesn't include a method to adjust for rotor speed changes. That's the hardest part to adjust for. You could stick to same speed ranges in some conditions, but then you skip a lot of spins. Isolating speed is not superior to interpolation.

And even if the ball hits the same diamond, the travel time typically varies up to 1.5s anyway. Only a computer is precise enough to adjust for that. But comparing computers is unfair.
Title: Re: laurence scott VB book
Post by: denzie on Apr 28, 06:08 AM 2018
Steve....its one of the best things posted on this forum. Top 5 stuff for sure  :thumbsup:

Thx Ego
Title: Re: laurence scott VB book
Post by: Steve on Apr 28, 06:41 AM 2018
Denzie, its good to see discussion about something that works. But im assuming you never read the pages on my site i linked to for you. Instead you kept asking for the next step.  :question: What ego explained is actually just bare bones vb - basically the first step.

I would love to see discussion go further. Theres a lot more to it. Interpolation is basically projecting rotor orientation variation. There are a few ways to do it.
Title: Re: laurence scott VB book
Post by: denzie on Apr 28, 06:54 AM 2018
Quote from: Steve on Apr 28, 06:41 AM 2018

I would love to see discussion go further. Theres a lot more to it. Interpolation is basically projecting rotor orientation variation. There are a few ways to do it.

Me too. Lets learn something.
Btw Steve....a thumper or simular things....how many seconds after ball release you can bet ? Coz our time Window to nmb is very small.

Btw Steve...I like a real discusion. Ego got straight to the point. No links. Hope we can keep going further....this stuff is the real deal  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: laurence scott VB book
Post by: Roulettebeater on Apr 28, 06:59 AM 2018
Sorry ego but you won't be able to gain an edge unless you find a way to measure rotor speed.

Don't underestimate rotor speed, it can influence the ball's drop drastically

Title: Re: laurence scott VB book
Post by: Steve on Apr 28, 07:09 AM 2018
It varies with casino, dealer, time of day, wheel, and even ball.

Typically bets close around 7 seconds before ball falls. Whats possible on any wheel depends on many variables. With vb, usually you cant expect to have accurate predictions without rotor speed consideration unless predictions are very late. One of my players unintentionally recorded a likely vb player when assessing a wheel. The recording is in my free rc trial video.  You see him make super late bet.

For earlier predictions you need to adjust for rotor speed variations. Alternatively use an rc which makes rotor calculations effortless. Even a basic computer would which is why vb to me is a bit silly. You could train with advanced vb for weeks and still a rc user would beat you with a few minutes of practice.

onlinemelk, regarding your pm my vb course is packaged with other methods but I'm not selling them anymore. A partner may later as i dont have time for support. Also of course a roulette computer is never visible. I don't know why so many people assume you have them visible for Casio staff to see.

The advantage of vb is its legal anywhere whereas rcs are legal in half of casinos. Rcs are much better unless its a basic design, in which case advanced vb may be a better option. Advanced rcs are a different matter.
Title: Re: laurence scott VB book
Post by: Steve on Apr 28, 07:12 AM 2018
Quote from: Roulettebeater on Apr 28, 06:59 AM 2018
Sorry ego but you won't be able to gain an edge unless you find a way to measure rotor speed.

Don't underestimate rotor speed, it can influence the ball's drop drastically


It depends mostly on rotor speed variation, and ball travel time after the key revolution.

The prediction variation should be within a 270 degree arc or it likely wont give a high enough edge.
Title: Re: laurence scott VB book
Post by: ego on Apr 28, 08:23 AM 2018
Quote from: Roulettebeater on Apr 28, 06:59 AM 2018
Sorry ego but you won't be able to gain an edge unless you find a way to measure rotor speed.

Don't underestimate rotor speed, it can influence the ball's drop drastically

No one says you should ignore rotor speeds, I just recommend beginners among others to use one and same speed.
Or track a couple of spins to get several different offsets.

And is better to measuring ball speed by itself, ball/rotor combinations are not as accurate.
Title: Re: laurence scott VB book
Post by: cht on Apr 28, 08:28 AM 2018
Quote from: denzie on Apr 28, 06:54 AM 2018
Me too. Lets learn something.
Btw Steve....a thumper or simular things....how many seconds after ball release you can bet ? Coz our time Window to nmb is very small.

Btw Steve...I like a real discusion. Ego got straight to the point. No links. Hope we can keep going further....this stuff is the real deal  :thumbsup:
The main obstacle is spin to nmb. ETG live dealer machines mostly nmb then spin. :(

Manual table spin followed by immediate nmb.

So where can we find 8-10 seconds window from spin to nmb ?  :question:

Pls post below for both online casinos and b&m casinos.
Title: Re: laurence scott VB book
Post by: ego on Apr 28, 09:01 AM 2018

Forget online, real casinos only.

Cheers
Title: Re: laurence scott VB book
Post by: The General on Apr 28, 03:03 PM 2018
"Walking home today, some f***** bumped into me and instantly started talking shit about aluminum being the best metal. I tried to remain calm and explain to him that iron was actually the best metal, but he wouldn't take a hint. He started throwing around words like "rust" and I lost it. Punched him right in his aluminum loving fuck face.

I hate aluminum so goddamn much."
Title: Re: laurence scott VB book
Post by: Turner on Apr 28, 04:40 PM 2018
Quote from: The General on Apr 28, 03:03 PM 2018I hate aluminum so goddamn much.
is that why you pronounce and spell it wrong?
Title: Re: laurence scott VB book
Post by: onlinemelk on Apr 29, 02:12 AM 2018
Quote from: Steve on Apr 28, 07:09 AM 2018

onlinemelk, regarding your pm my vb course is packaged with other methods but I'm not selling them anymore. A partner may later as i dont have time for support. Also of course a roulette computer is never visible. I don't know why so many people assume you have them visible for Casio staff to see.


I didn't understood your mean well Steve.  you will not sell VB package course any more ?  you just sell membership account to use in casino ???  or your package 2500$ include both (course package + website membership access) ???

and one more thing, I tested your website with your sample video , most of the time I will get this error , ball is too fast or ball is too slow,try next spin .  how suppose such as this program help to me to earn money from casino ?



Title: Re: laurence scott VB book
Post by: Steve on Apr 29, 02:32 AM 2018
No I'm not taking new players for that. My partners were and handled most of support but neither of us have time anymore especially for relatively low price. Their site is supposed to say that. I let them know again today to close the site to avoid confusion. Now i offer the computers only but will stop selling those too soon.

Quote from: onlinemelk on Apr 29, 02:12 AM 2018and one more thing, I tested your website with your sample video , most of the time I will get this error , ball is too fast or ball is too slow,try next spin .  how suppose such as this program help to me to earn money from casino ?

I have no idea what you're referring to. Please be very specific.
Title: Re: laurence scott VB book
Post by: DoctorSudoku on Apr 29, 02:52 AM 2018
Quote from: Turner on Apr 28, 04:40 PM 2018

is that why you pronounce and spell it wrong?



Turner,
Aluminum -- Wrong?

Judging by recent developments, aluminum will be the official spelling and pronunciation of the name of that metallic element in and around your beloved Wembley some time in the very near future.

Just wait and see.

:twisted:   :twisted:
Title: Re: laurence scott VB book
Post by: onlinemelk on Apr 29, 03:26 AM 2018
Quote from: Steve on Apr 29, 02:32 AM 2018
No I'm not taking new players for that. My partners were and handled most of support but neither of us have time anymore especially for relatively low price. Their site is supposed to say that. I let them know again today to close the site to avoid confusion. Now i offer the computers only but will stop selling those too soon.

I have no idea what you're referring to. Please be very specific.

this is your website link:://:.roulettewheelanalysis.com/   roulette computer test free trial .  Right ?

my bankroll decreased to -200$  WTF ????  :embarrassed:
Title: Re: laurence scott VB book
Post by: Turner on Apr 29, 03:38 AM 2018
Quote from: DoctorSudoku on Apr 29, 02:52 AM 2018Aluminum -- Wrong
It.....Aluminium
Its pronounced Al um in ium
Not Aloooominum

Whats all that about?
Title: Re: laurence scott VB book
Post by: Turner on Apr 29, 03:44 AM 2018
...And its grey.....not gray  :thumbsup:

Which is a colour.......with a u in it
Title: Re: laurence scott VB book
Post by: Steve on Apr 29, 04:07 AM 2018
Quote from: onlinemelk on Apr 29, 03:26 AM 2018
this is your website link:://:.roulettewheelanalysis.com/   roulette computer test free trial .  Right ?

my bankroll decreased to -200$  WTF ????  :embarrassed:

If you lose with the free trial computer, its something you are doing wrong. Did you do the click training as explained to get required competence?
Title: Re: laurence scott VB book
Post by: Steve on Apr 29, 05:17 AM 2018
Melk, No you weren't banned.
Turner locked the thread. I assume accidentally. I unlocked it.

You can generally bet as many or few numbers as you want. Good that your retest was very different.

You said in pm anyone can win if they bet lots of numbers and they won't need a computer. If its so easy then do it.
Title: Re: laurence scott VB book
Post by: Turner on Apr 29, 07:16 AM 2018
Sorry....combination of fat fingers and tiny android icons. Didnt mean to lock anything
Title: Re: laurence scott VB book
Post by: Roulettebeater on Apr 29, 07:20 AM 2018
Quote from: Turner on Apr 29, 07:16 AM 2018
Sorry....combination of fat fingers and tiny android icons. Didnt mean to lock anything


Strange, your fingers look thin in your avatar.

You got fat ?

Title: Re: laurence scott VB book
Post by: Roulettebeater on Apr 29, 07:25 AM 2018
Tuner

Look, that what happens when I type fast on a tiny iOS icons.

Be careful !

:xd:
Title: Re: laurence scott VB book
Post by: DoctorSudoku on Apr 29, 08:09 AM 2018
Quote from: Turner on Apr 29, 03:38 AM 2018

It.....Aluminium

Its pronounced Al um in ium

Not Aloooominum

Whats all that about?




Turner,
You may take a look at these two web pages:

1. This one is maintained by the US National Institutes of Health (NIH):

link:s://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/aluminum

2. This one is from the American Chemical Society:

link:s://pubs.acs.org/doi/full/10.1021/acsreagents.4008


ALUMINUM -- in a few months' time, this will be the spelling that will be used in and around your beloved Wembley.

:xd:   :xd:
Title: Re: laurence scott VB book
Post by: Steve on Apr 29, 09:03 PM 2018
Quote from: onlinemelk on Apr 29, 02:12 AM 2018Steve.  you will not sell VB package course any more ?

The closure notice is at the top of the site in the yellow box. Unfortunately none of us have time to support players - including my partners/players who handle it for the last year. There has been interest from some of my players to continue sales on my behalf, but I don't think any other players are in a good enough position to continue.

Generally players with poor English are very time consuming to help, and often struggle with the simplest concepts. Combine bad english with a player who previously thought the martingale was a good idea, and had no idea of AP. Then add the player is too lazy to read instructions and expects everything to be spoon-fed. These players can have a conversation but they struggle with anything technical. Then again I have plenty of players who speak english poorly, but they already have background knowledge and learn quickly. So its hard to say if struggling players have a problem with english or learning - perhaps sometimes both. But we stopped taking non-english speaking players long ago, and even had to add it to the terms of service but some didnt speak english well enough to even read the terms.

And many players, with perfect english, plain don't read instructions no matter how clear you make them. I just don't have the patience for it anymore. $2500 might seem like a lot for someone to spend, but it's actually not worth the time.
Title: Re: laurence scott VB book
Post by: cht on Apr 29, 09:58 PM 2018
Practise your VB skills with this popular wheel. Make money when you are good at it.
Title: Re: laurence scott VB book
Post by: Steve on Apr 29, 10:43 PM 2018
I know that wheel its very easy to beat. Most of these online casinos have no idea about wheel predictability, but it doesn't make a difference when most players know even less.
Title: Re: laurence scott VB book
Post by: onlinemelk on Apr 29, 10:57 PM 2018
Quote from: cht on Apr 29, 09:58 PM 2018
Practise your VB skills with this popular wheel. Make money when you are good at it.

all evolution gaming table are rigged , you can play and see yourself what will be happened after yo start to play with big money .

I didn't see anyone success to beat Immersive Roulette , because on this roulette operator can change the ball to any number that they want . so don't waste your time anymore on Internet . all of them are rigged . such as Ezugi , Netent , evoulution gaming and ....


Title: Re: laurence scott VB book
Post by: onlinemelk on Apr 29, 11:09 PM 2018
Quote from: Steve on Apr 29, 09:03 PM 2018
The closure notice is at the top of the site in the yellow box. Unfortunately none of us have time to support players - including my partners/players who handle it for the last year. There has been interest from some of my players to continue sales on my behalf, but I don't think any other players are in a good enough position to continue.

Generally players with poor English are very time consuming to help, and often struggle with the simplest concepts. Combine bad english with a player who previously thought the martingale was a good idea, and had no idea of AP. Then add the player is too lazy to read instructions and expects everything to be spoon-fed. These players can have a conversation but they struggle with anything technical. Then again I have plenty of players who speak english poorly, but they already have background knowledge and learn quickly. So its hard to say if struggling players have a problem with english or learning - perhaps sometimes both. But we stopped taking non-english speaking players long ago, and even had to add it to the terms of service but some didnt speak english well enough to even read the terms.

And many players, with perfect english, plain don't read instructions no matter how clear you make them. I just don't have the patience for it anymore. $2500 might seem like a lot for someone to spend, but it's actually not worth the time.

yes you get it well , my english is not good , I am agree with you , but I continue to insist buy your Visual system ebook or dvd for to paractice , and I don't want your support , I will not bother you for quastion and answer .

I am from IRAN , THAT there is no exist any casino here .(you can see my ip address).gambling in iran is completely prohibited and forbidden by goverment ,   If i want to bet , I should to travel .

so you can see I am just so interested in learning.
Title: Re: laurence scott VB book
Post by: Roulettebeater on Apr 30, 02:19 AM 2018
i dont think online wheels are rigged, i studied their distribution and come to this conclusion.