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Title: Changed my Mind!
Post by: jekhb76 on May 02, 04:26 AM 2018
Last night, i changed my roulette mind forever.

1. I Will never play More then 2-4 numbers at the same Time ever again.
2. Will never use a progression ever in my Life. From now on my name is Flatbet Eddy  :lol:
3. Never play More then 300 numbers a day. (Around 10 hours at the BM)
Hoping to reach my daily goal, Long before that.  :yawn:
4. My daily goal (Time to go home) Will be when i Have reached a profit of 20% of my bankroll.
5. I Will only play/bet on Hot Numbers.
6. Always Make sure that my bankroll is big enough for the method i would play.
Let's say i play a 2 number Hot number bet with 1 euro chip each.I know that i Will need at least 600 euro min. For a bank. Among for 20 hits Total on my numbers when i reach 300 spins, or when i reqch my 20%.
With 3 numbers betting i would need at least 900 euro bank for a aim of 30 hits. For 4 number bets i would need atleast 1200 euro for a 40 hit raitio.
Playing with a smaller bank then the above is playing with Fire. Always aiming for a bigger bank whenever possible.
Just a few mind changing facts.
Title: Re: Changed my Mind!
Post by: Lucky7Red on May 02, 04:54 AM 2018
Good point Eddy boy.
Title: Re: Changed my Mind!
Post by: ignatus on May 02, 04:57 AM 2018
Quote from: jekhb76 on May 02, 04:26 AM 2018I Will never play More then 2-4 numbers at the same Time ever again

Sure, this is perhaps "good" as some say? or, just a fallacy?

I Remember, i asked how many numbers Steve used to play? He said -15 numbers!
Title: Re: Changed my Mind!
Post by: jekhb76 on May 02, 05:32 AM 2018
Quote from: ignatus on May 02, 04:57 AM 2018
Sure, this is perhaps "good" as some say? or, just a fallacy?

I Remember, i asked how many numbers Steve used to play? He said -15 numbers!
Yes but Steve doesn't believe in Hot numbers at the First place, he thinks playing repeaters isn't the way to play, he thinks it's a fairytale that you Will Have advantage playing repeaters.
With only Hot number play, i can play much longer Without exposing my bankroll much too soon. And the profits are higher also. Sure it means, longer at the casino, but 20 hits with two numbers in 300 spins is not a bad way to play. and also a factor is that i can easly switch between number when nessesary, with too many numbers in play it would be difficult.
Title: Re: Changed my Mind!
Post by: Steve on May 02, 05:48 AM 2018
Keep playing and i guarantee you will change your mind aboit 95% of what you said.

Also yes 15 numbers is fine. Actually up to even 30 numbers can sometimes also be ok, although a pest to work with and overkill. The most I've ever found optimal is about 24 numbers. But typically about 15 is optimal for maximum profit pet hour. It depends on various things.
Title: Re: Changed my Mind!
Post by: jekhb76 on May 02, 06:12 AM 2018
Quote from: Steve on May 02, 05:48 AM 2018
Keep playing and i guarantee you will change your mind aboit 95% of what you said.

Also yes 15 numbers is fine. Actually up to even 30 numbers can sometimes also be ok, although a pest to work with and overkill. The most I've ever found optimal is about 24 numbers. But typically about 15 is optimal for maximum profit pet hour. It depends on various things.
Why would betting on 15 numbers be in your favour every hour in about 40-60 spins? And i'm not talking about roulette computers and bias etc. Please explain.
Title: Re: Changed my Mind!
Post by: cht on May 02, 06:26 AM 2018
Quote from: jekhb76 on May 02, 04:26 AM 2018
Last night, i changed my roulette mind forever.

Let's say i play a 2 number Hot number bet with 1 euro chip each.I know that i Will need at least 600 euro min. For a bank. Among for 20 hits Total on my numbers when i reach 300 spins, or when i reqch my 20%.
With 3 numbers betting i would need at least 900 euro bank for a aim of 30 hits. For 4 number bets i would need atleast 1200 euro for a 40 hit raitio.
Playing with a smaller bank then the above is playing with Fire. Always aiming for a bigger bank whenever possible.
Just a few mind changing facts.
Seriously, these numbers is bad business.
3 number bankroll 900units wow!!! >:D

Accurate VB bet 3-9numbers that requires  60-135units bankroll which return a profit of 100-200% in 50 spins(1hr machine) sessions, winning 60-80% of the sessions depending on the conditions.
Title: Re: Changed my Mind!
Post by: Taotie on May 02, 06:48 AM 2018
Seems a bit concrete there, flatty eddy old boy. It's a fluid game so try not to get to rigid.
Title: Re: Changed my Mind!
Post by: Scarface on May 02, 04:27 PM 2018
Jekyll, this is similar to how I play most of the time.  But this is really my recovery stage.  I normally start out with many numbers with fewest chips as possible.  Like 5 double streets.  If I get a loss, then go 5 quads...another loss, then 5 streets....etc.  Basically a parachute down.  Often I can accumulate 50 to 100 units on this even though it can be a slow grind.  This is my stage 1.

If Stage 1 fails...then go to recovery mode Stage 2.  This is pretty much play 2 to 4 numbers.  I may play 3 numbers for 12 spins looking for 2 hits.  If it hits once, I go again.  If it hits twice, I'm back in profit and return to Stage 1.  If no hit, I'll add 1 unit and play 3 numbers for 12 more spins...same rules.  Always play hotties
Title: Re: Changed my Mind!
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on May 02, 04:38 PM 2018
Quote from: jekhb76 on May 02, 04:26 AM 2018
Last night, i changed my roulette mind forever.

1. I Will never play More then 2-4 numbers at the same Time ever again.
2. Will never use a progression ever in my Life. From now on my name is Flatbet Eddy  :lol:
Just a few mind changing facts.

Check out single street strategies. 
They can be very lucrative if played right.
Title: Re: Changed my Mind!
Post by: jekhb76 on May 02, 05:04 PM 2018
Quote from: Proofreaders2000 on May 02, 04:38 PM 2018
Check out single street strategies. 
They can be very lucrative if played right.
Take a look at my latest post in HOT 'N' COLD!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Changed my Mind!
Post by: bigmoney on May 13, 03:42 AM 2019
I'm certain you have changed your method of play these days .....
Title: Re: Changed my Mind!
Post by: Roulettebeater on May 13, 03:55 AM 2019
I disagree, playing only 2 numbers is a time losing approach.
i thinl playing anything between 8 and 14 numbers is better choice
Title: Re: Changed my Mind!
Post by: Firefox on May 14, 08:45 AM 2019
Depends on how good your edge is but only two numbers has a large varience, so you can spend a lot of time losing before you win. 5-10 numbers with some positive expectation is much better. 

That's if you are betting during the spin. If you can bet before the spin, then half the numbers, say 15-18 gives you much more  even cashflow, even if some of the numbers are just break even ones.
Title: Re: Changed my Mind!
Post by: Ricky on May 16, 06:07 AM 2019
Quote from: Roulettebeater on May 13, 03:55 AM 2019
I disagree, playing only 2 numbers is a time losing approach.
i thinl playing anything between 8 and 14 numbers is better choice

What would you call betting hot number(s) as well as an EC at the same time for balance? is this still a timelosing approach?

eg bet 1 unit on #5 and 1 unit on Red. You have 50% chance of Breakeven
Title: Re: Changed my Mind!
Post by: Roulettebeater on May 16, 06:13 AM 2019
Quote from: Ricky on May 16, 06:07 AM 2019
What would you call betting hot number(s) as well as an EC at the same time for balance? is this still a timelosing approach?

eg bet 1 unit on #5 and 1 unit on Red. You have 50% chance of Breakeven

Do you think the casino isn’t aware of such tactics ?
I personally became hopeless about all layout bets ! Such bets don’t give you an edge !
Title: Re: Changed my Mind!
Post by: Ricky on May 16, 07:14 AM 2019
Quote from: Roulettebeater on May 16, 06:13 AM 2019
Do you think the casino isn’t aware of such tactics ?
I personally became hopeless about all layout bets ! Such bets don’t give you an edge !
What are you suggesting? The wheel is rigged?
Title: Re: Changed my Mind!
Post by: Firefox on May 16, 11:21 AM 2019
I think he's suggesting that if you don't have an advantage in prediction accuracy then the house edge will eventually eat away at your bankroll on random bets.

Betting on #5 is a random bet unless you have established there is a wheel defect which makes #5 a one in 33 (say) chance.

Or maybe you establish during the spin that the fall off point is around zero and the typical scatter peak is 18 pockets so the ball has a better chance than normal of landing in tiers. This again may make #5 a 1 in 33 or even better number for that spin only.

Title: Re: Changed my Mind!
Post by: Roulettebeater on May 16, 02:12 PM 2019
exactly and welcome to the club!
Title: Re: Changed my Mind!
Post by: ozon on May 16, 02:56 PM 2019
As a player system.
I also do not understand the concept of hedge bets at all.
In the concept of each system player should be using the smallest number of numbers because it reduces the house edge.
Each hedge bets causes us to have a larger HE and reduces the potential of the system.
Title: Re: Changed my Mind!
Post by: Firefox on May 17, 03:10 PM 2019
Quote from: ozon on May 16, 02:56 PM 2019
As a player system.
I also do not understand the concept of hedge bets at all.
In the concept of each system player should be using the smallest number of numbers because it reduces the house edge.
Each hedge bets causes us to have a larger HE and reduces the potential of the system.

It doesn't matter how many numbers you bet on.

If the numbers you bet on have a 1/37 chance of appearing then the house ege is 2.7% on any money you put into play.

You can bet 1 number or 15 ,numbers or 37 numbers the house edge is still 2.7%.

The only thing the numbers of bets changes is the varience ie The effects of luck on the swings to your bankroll.

But betting more numbers increases the losses as the loss is found by multiplying the HE (constant) by the total amount bet (more).