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Title: SwingThing! Unholy Ancient Drinking Vessel? Maybe! Thanks Notto and Winkel!
Post by: Nimo on May 06, 05:16 PM 2018
I've been using Notto's KTF with great success by expanding it and adjusting the progression.  After reading both Winkel's G.U.T and Notto's KTF, I thought why not all the numbers and all the crossings.  It's working out greatly.  Over 100 tests and most end within120 spins at +500 units profit with most drawdowns less than 500.   It may not be the Unholy Ancient drinking Vessel that some have on here, but it is just as consistent as the taxman. 

For a tracket, I use Normy's G.U.T tracker available here in software section and for progression I created my own spreadsheet, but there are progression spreadsheets in software section too.

Spin twice.  Bet unhit 35 numbers, then 34 then 33 etc stepping down each time  until you get down to Winkel main G.U.T crossing of 18/19.  If a bet is lost, use progression to get you to next.  At this high of numbers betting progressions are very short.  Then once you have 19 hits, you start playing all the hit numbers repeating the bets until the numbers climb by 1, for example you might get 19 numbers to hit five times in a row then go to 20 and they might hit 3 times in a row.  Do this with progression until you get to the 30 number bet, win that one and done.

Title: Re: SwingThing! Unholy Ancient Drinking Vessel? Maybe! Thanks Notto and Winkel!
Post by: nottophammer on May 06, 05:24 PM 2018
Forum members you've got to like Nimo, posted the method, unlike some.
Title: Re: SwingThing! Unholy Ancient Drinking Vessel? Maybe! Thanks Notto and Winkel!
Post by: Gandhi on May 06, 07:54 PM 2018
Quote from: nottophammer on May 06, 05:24 PM 2018
Forum members you've got to like Nimo, posted the method, unlike some.

  O0
Title: Re: SwingThing! Unholy Ancient Drinking Vessel? Maybe! Thanks Notto and Winkel!
Post by: TurboGenius on May 06, 08:13 PM 2018
Quote from: nottophammer on May 06, 05:24 PM 2018Forum members you've got to like Nimo, posted the method, unlike some.

Indeed

Bet on 35 numbers ! (then 34 numbers) then work your way back up to betting 30 numbers with a progression...

Just ask the dealer to please wait for you to get that done.
This is "Quality" Notto ?
Or is it just "Quantity" with no value whatsoever and a waste of people's time that impresses you ?

I'm the one misleading - right ?
Title: Re: SwingThing! Unholy Ancient Drinking Vessel? Maybe! Thanks Notto and Winkel!
Post by: Nimo on May 06, 08:28 PM 2018
Quote from: TurboGenius on May 06, 08:13 PM 2018
Indeed

Bet on 35 numbers ! (then 34 numbers) then work your way back up to betting 30 numbers with a progression...

Just ask the dealer to please wait for you to get that done.
This is "Quality" Notto ?
Or is it just "Quantity" with no value whatsoever and a waste of people's time that impresses you ?

I'm the one misleading - right ?

Wow, I have a lot of respect for you Turbo for what you have accomplished.  I never said anything about this working at a live wheel.  I'm going by the over 60000 units won in testing.  Not including what I have won in real money.  I know I don't have your skill set, never said I did, I just wanted to share what is working for me.  Roulette is my hobby.  Sports Betting is my bread and butter.

Regardless, thank you for reading my post and thank you for all the knowledge that you contributed over the years. 
Title: Re: SwingThing! Unholy Ancient Drinking Vessel? Maybe! Thanks Notto and Winkel!
Post by: Robbert on May 07, 05:44 AM 2018
Great! What is the progression?

And is it playable rng? because of the betting times.
Title: Re: SwingThing! Unholy Ancient Drinking Vessel? Maybe! Thanks Notto and Winkel!
Post by: Nimo on May 07, 03:40 PM 2018
Quote from: Robbert on May 07, 05:44 AM 2018
Great! What is the progression?

And is it playable rng? because of the betting times.

I've only played it RNG.  Progression varies depending in amount of numbers bet.  I will post a sample run soon, step by step
Title: Re: SwingThing! Unholy Ancient Drinking Vessel? Maybe! Thanks Notto and Winkel!
Post by: Lucky7Red on May 07, 04:22 PM 2018
rng is for suckers, software will cheat you.
Title: Re: SwingThing! Unholy Ancient Drinking Vessel? Maybe! Thanks Notto and Winkel!
Post by: fossell on May 07, 05:45 PM 2018
So, of the top of my head is the success (the profit) of this relying on your progressions on the way back up on repeaters? Sounds like a 'lot' of clicking! ;-)
Title: Re: SwingThing! Unholy Ancient Drinking Vessel? Maybe! Thanks Notto and Winkel!
Post by: Ross on May 08, 05:28 PM 2018
I'm waiting to find out how to make a profit
betting on 35 numbers.  Anyone?  Winkel?
Title: Re: SwingThing! Unholy Ancient Drinking Vessel? Maybe! Thanks Notto and Winkel!
Post by: Robbert on May 09, 08:47 AM 2018
Still waiting for the spins!
Title: Re: SwingThing! Unholy Ancient Drinking Vessel? Maybe! Thanks Notto and Winkel!
Post by: nottophammer on May 11, 05:07 AM 2018
Quote from: Robbert on May 09, 08:47 AM 2018
Still waiting for the spins!

Do you like Winkels GUT method Robert
Title: Re: SwingThing! Unholy Ancient Drinking Vessel? Maybe! Thanks Notto and Winkel!
Post by: nottophammer on May 11, 05:21 AM 2018
Quote from: TurboGenius on May 06, 08:13 PM 2018Just ask the dealer to please wait for you to get that done.Tech world; use touchscreen
This is "Quality" Notto ? Like your just bet repeats
Or is it just "Quantity" with no value whatsoever and a waste of people's time that impresses you ? Nimo works with Non-hit and then repeats, repeats that you bleet about in RIDDLES, here Nimo gave the whole method unlike you, impressed, definitely

I'm the one misleading - right ? You are, if you've got a pair of balls, PM the method to a follower of yours, hmm which one, how about  jekhb76;Eddy, he could then say one way or the other if you are the GENIUS,The General all ready shown you not to be the genius on GF
Title: Re: SwingThing! Unholy Ancient Drinking Vessel? Maybe! Thanks Notto and Winkel!
Post by: nottophammer on May 14, 07:18 PM 2018
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Turdo genius awaiting you response
Title: Re: SwingThing! Unholy Ancient Drinking Vessel? Maybe! Thanks Notto and Winkel!
Post by: nottophammer on May 14, 07:20 PM 2018
Quote from: nottophammer on May 11, 05:07 AM 2018
Do you like Winkels GUT method Robert
Well Robert ?
Title: Re: SwingThing! Unholy Ancient Drinking Vessel? Maybe! Thanks Notto and Winkel!
Post by: nottophammer on Jun 24, 04:19 PM 2019
As Nimo said easy 100 units and not a million spins; eh Jono. Take that 10 or 100 all day long
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Title: Re: SwingThing! Unholy Ancient Drinking Vessel? Maybe! Thanks Notto and Winkel!
Post by: jono1167 on Jun 25, 06:21 AM 2019
Quote from: nottophammer on Jun 24, 04:19 PM 2019
As Nimo said easy 100 units and not a million spins; eh Jono. Take that 10 or 100 all day long
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Thanks Notto, I’m catching up on this now....
Title: Re: SwingThing! Unholy Ancient Drinking Vessel? Maybe! Thanks Notto and Winkel!
Post by: Let Me Win on Jun 25, 09:13 AM 2019
Yeah another easy 100 units of pretend money.

Congratulations indeed.
Title: Re: SwingThing! Unholy Ancient Drinking Vessel? Maybe! Thanks Notto and Winkel!
Post by: nottophammer on Jun 25, 10:13 AM 2019
Quote from: Let Me Win on Jun 25, 09:13 AM 2019Congratulations indeed.
Let Me Whinge;  Thanks
Title: Re: SwingThing! Unholy Ancient Drinking Vessel? Maybe! Thanks Notto and Winkel!
Post by: The General on Jun 25, 11:41 AM 2019
Quote from: nottophammer on Jun 24, 04:19 PM 2019
As Nimo said easy 100 units and not a million spins; eh Jono. Take that 10 or 100 all day long
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Played one spin.  A quick 100 units. 
Title: Re: SwingThing! Unholy Ancient Drinking Vessel? Maybe! Thanks Notto and Winkel!
Post by: nottophammer on Jun 25, 01:02 PM 2019
Quote from: The General on Jun 25, 11:41 AM 2019Played one spin.  A quick 100 units. 

Doing great General; hope for you yet
Title: Re: SwingThing! Unholy Ancient Drinking Vessel? Maybe! Thanks Notto and Winkel!
Post by: nottophammer on Jun 25, 04:08 PM 2019
General
Repeats 1-3-5-7 =16

0x v 1x; 0x v 1x+>1x

Thats all there is to it
Title: Re: SwingThing! Unholy Ancient Drinking Vessel? Maybe! Thanks Notto and Winkel!
Post by: RouletteGhost on Jun 25, 06:28 PM 2019
This does work

Seems to rub a few memenerw the wrong way
Title: Re: SwingThing! Unholy Ancient Drinking Vessel? Maybe! Thanks Notto and Winkel!
Post by: nottophammer on Jun 25, 07:23 PM 2019
General only 14 repeats so -2 against the usual 16.

Title: Re: SwingThing! Unholy Ancient Drinking Vessel? Maybe! Thanks Notto and Winkel!
Post by: The General on Jun 25, 11:33 PM 2019
Quote from: nottophammer on Jun 25, 07:23 PM 2019
General only 14 repeats so -2 against the usual 16.

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Yes, but if you play only one spin then there can be no repeats, only uniques. When playing one spin, I always encounter a unique 100% of the time.
Title: Re: SwingThing! Unholy Ancient Drinking Vessel? Maybe! Thanks Notto and Winkel!
Post by: Steve on Jun 25, 11:42 PM 2019
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Jun 25, 06:28 PM 2019This does work

If a few wins before crashing means "it works", sure.

Quote from: RouletteGhost on Jun 25, 06:28 PM 2019Seems to rub a few members the wrong way

Well, it's like when someone says "Look, Earth is FLAT. Look at the horizon! Flat!", this rubs some people the wrong way because they refuse to believe anyone can be that brainless.

I'll try a different tactic.

Earth is indeed flat. Like a pancake. I totally agree. And if those white walkers cross the wall of ice, we're f*cked.

Also bets with random accuracy but with charts that go UP are proof a system WORKS. There's no other explanation.