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Title: 1st 10 spins
Post by: nottophammer on May 09, 05:08 AM 2018
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Ross this type of 10 spins lets you start at spin 3 betting 35 numbers. The question is when do you stop?

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So mid October is the 1st time 6/10 happens.

So how rare is the opening 10 spins giving 5/10?

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Answer very rare

What is the commonest openning 10 spins

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Morts last 5 days

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Out of last 234 days of Mort posted games; 9/10 is the most common
Title: Re: 1st 10 spins
Post by: nottophammer on May 10, 06:51 PM 2018
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Ross 15 non-hit in spins 11-40, so 15 repeats, a perfect game.
Title: Re: 1st 10 spins
Post by: Ross on May 10, 10:18 PM 2018
And the winner is ...

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Title: Re: 1st 10 spins
Post by: Ross on May 10, 11:39 PM 2018
Ross 15 non-hit in spins 11-40, so 15 repeats, a perfect game.


Do you mean numbers that haven't hit in the last 40 spins
or that haven't hit in the last (40 - 11) spins i.e. the last
29 spins - same thing as far as I can see.
Title: Re: 1st 10 spins
Post by: nottophammer on May 11, 04:55 AM 2018
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30 SPINS, 15 repeat in grey and 15 non-hit a perfect TROT, even gave the usual 7, 5, 3
Title: Re: 1st 10 spins
Post by: Herby on May 11, 12:06 PM 2018
Notto's spins as a picture
Title: Re: 1st 10 spins
Post by: Ross on May 11, 03:26 PM 2018
"30 SPINS, 15 repeat in grey and 15 non-hit a perfect TROT, even gave the usual 7, 5, 3"

You say 15 repeats in 30 spins but the first repeat on spin 17 (25) previously hit last on spin 7.

Don't think 40-7 = 30.
Title: Re: 1st 10 spins
Post by: nottophammer on May 11, 03:42 PM 2018
Quote from: Ross on May 11, 03:26 PM 2018You say 15 repeats in 30 spins but the first repeat on spin 17 (25) previously hit last on spin 7.

Don't think 40-7 = 30.

It's worked on spins 11-40 which is 30 spins look at the checkpoint box 1st 10 spins is the usual 9/10, now data on next 30 spins gives 15 .7 non-hit, drop the .7 so we expect 15 non-hit in spins 11 -40, 9+15=24 and at spin 40 in checkpoint is 24 spot on for 15 non-hit, so if 15 non-hit came in 30 spins WHAT ARE THE OTHER 15 SPINS

I'll let you work that out.

Perhaps you should re-read GUT then KTF and finally ROTT
Title: Re: 1st 10 spins
Post by: nottophammer on May 11, 03:43 PM 2018
And better still don't waste my time
Title: Re: 1st 10 spins
Post by: Ross on May 12, 06:09 PM 2018
Notto

I modified one of my programmes to count
spins the way you do it.

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I wouldn't bet on the info here.

My way of counting updates the info after each spin
so the 10-spins line is always the last ten spins.

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My bet would be what I call a half-bet which would be
half the sixteen unhit numbers at line 40 (shown in the
panel at the bottom.  Take the first,third,fifth etc.
numbers for an eight-number bet.

Number 33 hits in a couple of spins.
Title: Re: 1st 10 spins
Post by: nottophammer on Oct 15, 03:04 PM 2018
BBB and W. Gator
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Title: Re: 1st 10 spins
Post by: Nimo on Oct 16, 10:50 AM 2018
Still the easiest $100 to make day in and day out.  Its always my first play of the day. 
Title: Re: 1st 10 spins
Post by: HypnoToad on Oct 17, 01:03 PM 2018
What exactly am I looking at here? Is this a system?
Title: Re: 1st 10 spins
Post by: Bigbroben on Oct 17, 02:30 PM 2018
These are stats.
The ingredients of the first 10 spins: Unhits and repeaters, and their daily recommended portions... O0
Title: Re: 1st 10 spins
Post by: nottophammer on Oct 17, 04:17 PM 2018
Toad
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996 games which are airball.
So the opening 10 spins has given 5 non-hit and 5 repeat once.
As you can see 9 non-hit and 1 repeat has happened for 443 of the 996 games.

I started to see how betting for 1st repeat would do, i have the last 384 games and it's +553.

Here is last month for 1st 10 spins
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you can see 4 games had the opening 10 spins, no repeat, but it's still +105

Remember this is betting for the 1st repeat in the opening 10 spins.

Know the average for non-hits to hit for spins 11-20 then 21-30 and 31-40, finally 60 spins.
Clue for non-hits                                                         7                  5                 3

What do you think BBB
Title: Re: 1st 10 spins
Post by: nottophammer on Oct 17, 05:02 PM 2018
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+104 just like Nimo said
Title: Re: 1st 10 spins
Post by: Gitano on Oct 17, 05:02 PM 2018
Mr.Nottophammer Good Evening.
correct if I'm wrong..I calculate 443/996 *100 is 44.47%..of winning within 10 new spins ?


Title: Re: 1st 10 spins
Post by: nottophammer on Oct 17, 05:25 PM 2018
443 games out the 996 finished 9/10, so a repeat, the question is when does the repeat come?
So use 1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,3 if no repeat -92

You see the last month of result for opening 10 spins +105

Now the 10 spins on MPR i bet non-hit after spins 13,30 end +104 the larger group, you've seen how many opening 10 spins came in the 996 games

If i had bet for repeat +26 #16 there's more than one way to play.

Watch the trot, just learn how to get out of a hole. If you wait for spins 11-20, whats happened in spins 1-10, was there a repeat, if no, what does spin 13 in GUT tell you? how many non-hit are expected in spins 11-20, what was the clue, 7, when would you bet for repeat? after 3 repeats in the spins 11-20,

Have a look in the non-hit time table, theres the Generals starburst spins all broke down
Title: Re: 1st 10 spins
Post by: Tinsoldiers on Oct 17, 08:04 PM 2018
Quote from: nottophammer on Oct 17, 05:25 PM 2018443 games out the 996 finished 9/10, so a repea
So play for non repeat for 10 spins and you are ahead all the time. No progression just flat bet based on your stats
Title: Re: 1st 10 spins
Post by: Gitano on Oct 17, 08:51 PM 2018
Quote from: Tinsoldiers on Oct 17, 08:04 PM 2018
So play for non repeat for 10 spins and you are ahead all the time. No progression just flat bet based on your stats


.. :thumbsup:
late in the night this conversation is beginning to be tricky one :xd: :xd: :xd:
Title: Re: 1st 10 spins
Post by: Bigbroben on Oct 17, 09:43 PM 2018
Quote from: Tinsoldiers on Oct 17, 08:04 PM 2018
So play for non repeat for 10 spins and you are ahead all the time. No progression just flat bet based on your stats

Lemme check, but i think this is wrong...  otherwise this method would be well known since 1800 Anno Domini.
Title: Re: 1st 10 spins
Post by: luckyfella on Oct 17, 10:11 PM 2018
Notto uses discretion to play his games

Tests based on mechanical application do not reflect the way Notto plays

Title: Re: 1st 10 spins
Post by: Bigbroben on Oct 17, 10:37 PM 2018
Quote from: luckyfella on Oct 17, 10:11 PM 2018
Notto uses discretion to play his games

Tests based on mechanical application do not reflect the way Notto plays

Yes, I would agree with this.

But in this case here, 10 spins  is just enough to apply only one method : it offers only a small window to observe, compare, and decide on next move.

Did a test real quick, so, yeah, mechanical Excel random spins, and got 3379 wins and 831 losses, so 19,74% no hit on spin 11.
Let's make it 20%-80%.

What if: Play the hits for ten spins, like above.  If fail, go KTF?  So, 80% wins on or before spin 11, good start.  Restart.   The 20% left give a KTF start at -92, if putting units like Notto said.  -92 is not too bad, knowing KTF often sees a score higher than +100.

Start KTF at prog 3?  4? or 1?

MMhhh, I might work on this one.
Title: Re: 1st 10 spins
Post by: luckyfella on Oct 17, 11:57 PM 2018
Quote from: Bigbroben on Oct 17, 10:37 PM 2018
Yes, I would agree with this.

But in this case here, 10 spins  is just enough to apply only one method : it offers only a small window to observe, compare, and decide on next move.

Did a test real quick, so, yeah, mechanical Excel random spins, and got 3379 wins and 831 losses, so 19,74% no hit on spin 11.
Let's make it 20%-80%.

What if: Play the hits for ten spins, like above.  If fail, go KTF?  So, 80% wins on or before spin 11, good start.  Restart.   The 20% left give a KTF start at -92, if putting units like Notto said.  -92 is not too bad, knowing KTF often sees a score higher than +100.

Start KTF at prog 3?  4? or 1?

MMhhh, I might work on this one.
A breakdown of this 3379 wins when the repeats hit will reveal more, example
Spin2      ?
Spin3      ?
......and so on
Spin11    ?

You work out the total win units, determine if it's net positive
Then identify if there is any skew/cluster
Expand the population with diverse data to determine if it's universally consistent or a local phenomenom
Look at the wheel for visual cause
And so on...
Title: Re: 1st 10 spins
Post by: nottophammer on Oct 18, 07:09 AM 2018
Have you all not learnt?
If you were to play 1st 10 spins all the time, you’d lose, that rare occasion when its 5/5 would show its ugly head.
Why, Kon-fused shows if bet all crossings in GUT you will lose.
Would that not be the case here?
Now like the Lucky fella say’s I make a decision, this decision changes, I don’t know how I feel.
But this I played today after midnight to show someone how you can win, by just watching.
I waited spins 1 and 2, went in for spin 3,4,5,6 betting remaining non-hits, stop; carried on just watching, what happens more often in spins 1-10, a repeat, so just watching, there’s the repeat on 9th spin, so bet all remaining, win. But what was to say another repeat would not happen.
So I, you could stop here and reset, but what do you know or expect to happen in spins 11-20?
So I carried on just watching.
Look 2 repeats, what is the average to hit for non-hit up to the 19th non-hit; average 2 spins, so bet the remaining, win.
Back to watch, spin 16 there’s the average of 3 repeats; don’t we expect 7 non-hits in spins 11-20? So now bet the remaining non-hit, I finish +98 units
Now decisions were correct, Next time the trot of the 37 non-hits will come different, so just watching will mean different decisions have to be made.
But these decisions are not made through curve fitting; you have to collect data on where you play.
You’ll need like Winkel said to me in a post in GUT, see if the laughable law of the third happens, you can use countback to see the invisible trot of the non-hits.
MPR is said to be using Random.org, yes LOTT is happening.
The 7, 5, 3 happens over spins 11-40; so don’t get greedy, take the early wins, those wins grow to a nice big bank roll.

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Title: Re: 1st 10 spins
Post by: Nimo on Oct 20, 10:04 AM 2018
Quote from: Ross on May 12, 06:09 PM 2018so the 10-spins line is always the last ten spins.


Here is a chart of the last 11 spins continuous with the Turbo 1-5-25-125 progression, just betting the unhits. It's a great hit rate because of the amount of numbers involved, but the progression needs to be aggressive, again because of the amount of numbers involved.  It's not always such smooth sailing, however it profits more than it tanks.
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Title: Re: 1st 10 spins
Post by: Gitano on Oct 20, 10:11 AM 2018
 :) ;)..like the Bemo Winkel strategy and other systems, with the power of bankroll you force the curve to positive 
Title: Re: 1st 10 spins
Post by: Nimo on Oct 20, 10:20 AM 2018
Quote from: Gitano on Oct 20, 10:11 AM 2018
:) ;)..like the Bemo Winkel strategy and other systems, with the power of bankroll you force the curve to positive

Not really a system per se, I was just showing what is possible with a rolling continuous bet using Notto's data on the unhits.    Max drawdown was 162 units, max bet was 675 units.  A $1000 bankroll to win $1000 profit seems fair to me.  100% return in less than 30 minutes. 
Title: Re: 1st 10 spins
Post by: Person S on Oct 20, 03:06 PM 2018
I tried to play a strategy beyond 37, but more tests are required.
We wait until 2 hits hit in a row, after 37 spins, at this time the tracker aiki is on config 37 ...
Bid on all unique and repeat.
Progression +1 loss -1 win. If you win 30-50 session is over.
Title: Re: 1st 10 spins
Post by: nottophammer on Oct 22, 05:34 PM 2018
Look at the checkpoint  there's the 9/10
14 non-hits for 11-40; and 29 at 60
Very right side is the trot Thanks to BBB and Badger for the trot.
Oh yes these are from random.org also in Goldking testing

General spin 20 gets the bucket of KFC

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