Hi experts
yesterday i witnessed an illegal/cheat action on one of the live "evolution gaming" roulette tables.
i am now considering to move to bet365 tables.
I am not familiar with bet365 tables, i noticed that the ball is bit bigger than the evolution gaming tables.
do you have experience with bet365 tables? are they fair? are they easy to defeat?
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thx
I don't play live tables since I get bored easily waiting , so I can't help you there, but on the sports book side they are great to work with, never had a problem cashing out.
What was the cheat action?
Quote from: Steve on May 16, 05:24 PM 2018
What was the cheat action?
I was playing roulette yesterday and focused on 0 section. I watched the video many times and it seems the ball landed in "0", but it is shown in "35" . i duno how the ball got in there as the casino doesn't show the whole spin.
yesterday they were using for first time an angle camera ! its very supicious.
another thing, the rule says the dealer should spin from last number, they ignored that and were spinning from far away
There are occasional issues like that which are not cheating. But it helps to screen record everything so you have something clear to work with. Its the same case with mpr or any live online game.
Quote from: Steve on May 16, 05:58 PM 2018There are occasional issues like that which are not cheating. But it helps to screen record everything so you have something clear to work with. Its the same case with mpr or any live online game.
they were cheating!
an angle camera used for the first time at that table that doesn't show the entire path of the ball and ball drop very suspicious as i already described!
My system's prediction was neutralized due to these shitty actions
Quote from: Roulettebeater on May 16, 06:00 PM 2018My system's prediction was neutralized due to these shitty actions
:lol:
Quote from: Roulettebeater on May 16, 05:47 PM 2018
I was playing roulette yesterday and focused on 0 section. I watched the video many times and it seems the ball landed in "0", but it is shown in "35" . i duno how the ball got in there as the casino doesn't show the whole spin.
yesterday they were using for first time an angle camera ! its very supicious.
another thing, the rule says the dealer should spin from last number, they ignored that and were spinning from far away
Most serious gamblers who win or at least try to win serious amounts (NOT mickey mouse amounts) of money on a consistent basis play in b&m casinos.
There is a reason why they exhibit such a strong preference in terms of their favored gambling venues -- maybe that is a lesson that you can learn from them.
Quote from: nottophammer on May 16, 06:16 PM 2018
:lol:
If one spin neutralizes your system, is it a good system?
A glitch can work either for or against you.
I tried the roulette once at bet365. I don't remember what it was but it got me quit playing there. It's hard to say when things happen if it's technical issues or not. Sometimes the ball jump suspicious but is it magnets or not that people say?
Quote from: Steve on May 16, 06:45 PM 2018
If one spin neutralizes your system, is it a good system?
A glitch can work either for or against you.
Not only one spin
It was a serie of multiple suspicious spins.
Sure they can neutralize your systems
Quote from: boyd30 on May 17, 01:12 AM 2018
I tried the roulette once at bet365. I don't remember what it was but it got me quit playing there. It's hard to say when things happen if it's technical issues or not. Sometimes the ball jump suspicious but is it magnets or not that people say?
Well, can be
I noticed they use a bigger and heavier ball that is hard to fall directly in one pocket, it always keeps bouncing ...
No one has told me yet if the casino is allowed to spin the ball far away from last spun number, is this legal ? I doubt so
I have a system that uses the last spun number as a reference point / place in which the ball should be spun... they damaged the efficiency of the system because they kept spinning from far away
By the way, online casinos do cheat...
Quote from: Roulettebeater on May 16, 05:47 PM 2018
I was playing roulette yesterday and focused on 0 section. I watched the video many times and it seems the ball landed in "0", but it is shown in "35" . i duno how the ball got in there as the casino doesn't show the whole spin.
yesterday they were using for first time an angle camera ! its very supicious.
another thing, the rule says the dealer should spin from last number, they ignored that and were spinning from far away
The ball bounced. So what, it happens. ::) Have you plotted a scatter profile for the wheel? You should. Plot around 500 to 1000 spins. I doubt the video quality is good enough to accurately see where the ball smacks the deflectors on the apron each spin, but give it a try.
Regarding ball release: in the US the ball is not usually released from the last number spun. Again, no big deal. It's good that you're attempting to make some kind of reference to the position of the ball in relation to the rotor, but surely you can see an obvious solution to your problem.
(Psst...look later in the spin.) Regardless, you're not going to beat an online wheel playing that way.
Playing online is a fools game. Get out, and go to a real casino. Online casinos are reserved for the young, naive, and addicted gamblers. Consistent winners have their accounts frozen and are banned.
Quote from: The General on May 17, 11:26 AM 2018
The ball bounced. So what, it happens. ::) Have you plotted a scatter profile for the wheel? You should. Plot around 500 to 1000 spins. I doubt the video quality is good enough to accurately see where the ball smacks the deflectors on the apron each spin, but give it a try.
Regarding ball release: in the US the ball is not usually released from the last number spun. Again, no big deal. It's good that you're attempting to make some kind of reference to the position of the ball in relation to the rotor, but surely you can see an obvious solution to your problem.
(Psst...look later in the spin.) Regardless, you're not going to beat an online wheel playing that way.
Playing online is a fools game. Get out, and go to a real casino. Online casinos are reserved for the young, naive, and addicted gamblers. Consistent winners have their accounts frozen and are banned.
General,
i am using a software to predict the winning sector.
I cant play in land casino!
thats my problem!
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Okay i will show an example.
you can see this is the software i use, it 's on the right side.. here it predicted that the winning number should be in this spot (16,24,33)... notice the ball drop in the image.
in fact, winning number was 33
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Your prediction software sucks. Why do you even need it? ::)
Before you go any further you need to:
1. Collect a ball scatter profile.
2. Determine how long the ball is on the track. Just knowing where the ball is released likely isn't going to be enough to get an edge.
You should be able to handily make a prediction, and faster, without that software.
Quote from: The General on May 17, 04:20 PM 2018
Your prediction software sucks. Why do you even need it? ::)
Before you go any further you need to:
1. Collect a ball scatter profile.
2. Determine how long the ball is on the track. Just knowing where the ball is released likely isn't going to be enough to get an edge.
You should be able to handily make a prediction, and faster, without that software.
come on dude.
i put so much efforts developing the software
VB is ok but you can't guarantee it will always work
Does your software
1. Create a ball scatter/bounce profile?
2. Is your playing model built around deflector smacks or land points?
Quote from: The General on May 17, 04:39 PM 2018
Does your software
1. Create a ball scatter/bounce profile?
2. Is your playing model built around deflector smacks or land points?
Yes!
i even enhanced the deflector and ball drop performance by adding hybrid components.
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I challenge anyone to come up with such extrem efficiency!
general, wanna give the software a go?
i can organize a quik demo for you.. perhaps you have ideas for further optimization.
Quotegeneral, wanna give the software a go?
i can organize a quik demo for you.. perhaps you have ideas for further optimization.
Hello (Sereja) Tony. :)
"Wanna, gonna. " I recognize your style of writing. ;)
Hi Roulettebeater
I told you several times , don't play with Evolution gaming , they are scam , you told me no .remember ;)
I glad finally you realized that . don't waste your time on online roulette , they are all scam , even you earned money .
Regards
Quote from: Roulettebeater on May 16, 01:20 PM 2018
Hi experts
yesterday i witnessed an illegal/cheat action on one of the live "evolution gaming" roulette tables.
i am now considering to move to bet365 tables.
I am not familiar with bet365 tables, i noticed that the ball is bit bigger than the evolution gaming tables.
do you have experience with bet365 tables? are they fair? are they easy to defeat?
(link:://:.pichost.org/images/2018/05/16/temp_397362.png) (link:://:.pichost.org/image/spqcD)
thx
Quote from: The General on May 17, 06:19 PM 2018
Hello (Sereja) Tony. :)
"Wanna, gonna. " I recognize your style of writing. ;)
What does that have to do with this post or my comment ?
Quote from: onlinemelk on May 17, 06:21 PM 2018
Hi Roulettebeater
I told you several times , don't play with Evolution gaming , they are scam , you told me no .remember ;)
I glad finally you realized that . don't waste your time on online roulette , they are all scam , even you earned money .
Regards
You think so ?
Then I have a huge problem, my software can’t be used at land casino... should I give up ?
Despite the ambiance...
What is the difference (cheating, rigged, etc) in playing at some B&M casino, or, playing online, with the live feed of that same B&M casino.
Imagine fitzwilliam. The results will be the same if you're at home or there.
I understand the roulette studios thing... but how about he live b&m feeds?
no , you can continue but you should know you are in the EVL blacklist NOW .
so you should
1- change your computer name
2-change ip address (use another ISP)
3-change mac address
4-sign up with another account(friend) or singnup in another website that support evolution gaming . work with new nickname .
now you are new guy , that f****** evolution gaming company has not anything about you . now you can continue without any problem .
I suggest you to bet small not big .
Quote from: Roulettebeater on May 18, 02:48 AM 2018
You think so ?
Then I have a huge problem, my software can’t be used at land casino... should I give up ?
Quote from: Roulettebeater on May 18, 02:48 AM 2018
You think so ?
Then I have a huge problem, my software can’t be used at land casino... should I give up ?
Yes because your software is probably junk.
Quote from: The General on May 18, 08:18 PM 2018Yes because your software is probably junk.
Oh General, you are the typical troll who loves the shit out of himself
Roulettebeater,
What is it that you feel makes the software work. How does it operate, what type of data do you input?
Quote from: The General on May 20, 01:21 PM 2018
Roulettebeater,
What is it that you feel makes the software work. How does it operate, what type of data do you input?
General
You are killing any constructive discussion with your late replies !
Either you reply promptly or let it be, i have no time to regather all the ideas back and write them down..
Anyway I will tell you something, my software requires the last 4 spins with the revelant spins directions and the launching point, the software tries to capture/ simulate the speed of the ball and rotor, then the predicted output is used to estimate the most possible winning numbers
Quote from: Roulettebeater on May 20, 02:17 PM 2018
General
You are killing any constructive discussion with your late replies !
Anyway I will tell you something, my software requires the last 4 spins with the revelant spins directions and the launching point, the software tries to capture/ simulate the speed of the ball and rotor, then the predicted output is used to estimate the most possible winning numbers
Only the last four spins?
How can it capture accurate ball speed if you're looking at an online video feed? Missing frames, herky jerky video quality, I'm sorry but I suspect your predictions aren't very good.
Quote from: The General on May 20, 02:29 PM 2018
Only the last four spins?
How can it capture accurate ball speed if you're looking at an online video feed? Missing frames, herky jerky video quality, I'm sorry but I suspect your predictions aren't very good.
Dude
You have to stop underestimating the people !
I will tell you a tip, if you take these two numbers 4-33, for the scope of simplicity we will consider the rotor speed stable at 5 seconds, you can estimate the ball speed based on the last two numbers and in this case the speed was 17,45
Still unclear ?
Quote from: Roulettebeater on May 20, 02:53 PM 2018
Dude
You have to stop underestimating the people !
I will tell you a tip, if you take these two numbers 4-33, for the scope of simplicity we will consider the rotor speed stable at 5 seconds, you can estimate the ball speed based on the last two numbers and in this case the speed was 17,45
Still unclear ?
Yes, still unclear.
What do 4-33 have to do with anything? How are you estimating the ball speed based on the last two numbers 4-33?
When you say the ball speed was 17.45 I'm assuming that you're referring to the total ball travel time, and if so, why?
That doesn't mean that the next ball travel time will be the same.
What about a ball scatter profile? I see no mention of it. Have you ever plotted one for the online whee that you're looking at?
Quote from: The General on May 20, 03:03 PM 2018
Yes, still unclear.
What do 4-33 have to do with anything? How are you estimating the ball speed based on the last two numbers 4-33?
When you say the ball speed was 17.45 I'm assuming that you're referring to the total ball travel time, and if so, why?
That doesn't mean that the next ball travel time will be the same.
What about a ball scatter profile? I see no mention of it. Have you ever plotted one for the online whee that you're looking at?
Well
Finding out the last ball speed is important for me, why ?
Because I have a huge sample of spins, I check that speed against the sample and get the most probable speed for the next spin.
Quote from: Roulettebeater on May 20, 03:10 PM 2018
Well
Finding out the last ball speed is important for me, why ?
Because I have a huge sample of spins, I check that speed against the sample and get the most probable speed for the next spin.
Are you attempting to play visual ballistics?
or
Are you attempting some kind of dealer's signature?
What about the ball bounce scatter profile?
Quote from: The General on May 20, 03:23 PM 2018
Are you attempting to play visual ballistics?
or
Are you attempting some kind of dealer's signature?
What about the ball bounce scatter profile?
i have huge sample of data ... my system uses a very simple logic:
cause and effect, if you find out the previous speed, then check it against the sample of data..you will get a clue.
i use that clue to predict the sector of the wheel the ball will most probably fall on... this system is giving me an edge.
Quote from: Roulettebeater on May 20, 03:27 PM 2018
i have huge sample of data ... my system uses a very simple logic:
cause and effect, if you find out the previous speed, then check it against the sample of data..you will get a clue.
i use that clue to predict the sector of the wheel the ball will most probably fall on... this system is giving me an edge.
Ok then, show us some relevant data that supports your idea.
Roulettebeater,
Here's what I'd be interested in seeing. A standard deviation graph or just a regular graph representing how many pockets your predicted numbers were from the actual.
Quote from: The General on May 20, 03:42 PM 2018
Roulettebeater,
Here's what I'd be interested in seeing. A standard deviation graph or just a regular graph representing how many pockets your predicted numbers were from the actual.
drop me a pm, we will get this done together.
What happened?
No data?
Quote from: The General on May 22, 07:47 PM 2018
What happened?
No data?
Quote from: Roulettebeater on May 20, 02:53 PM 2018
Dude
the speed was 17,45
Still unclear ?
No
units :question:
- it's a no go for physicists
example: thermal conductivity units: BTU/(hr ft °F) >:D
All clear ? no units = no data
Hey general
I just replied! Sorry I was having fun with some escorts in the town
:xd: