There was this link on the Vaddis topic:
link:s://:.vlsroulette.com/index.php?topic=20773.30
Seems to track r-b, o-e, h-l , group nrs in 8 different categories, and bet accordingly, but not too many explanations, or they've been deleted.
Anyone know this a bit?
Quote from: Bigbroben on May 24, 10:26 AM 2018
There was this link on the Vaddis topic:
link:s://:.vlsroulette.com/index.php?topic=20773.30
Seems to track r-b, o-e, h-l , group nrs in 8 different categories, and bet accordingly, but not too many explanations, or they've been deleted.
Anyone know this a bit?
Yes, i saw it once. Have totaly No idea how to play it.
I don't know how to play it.
But I copied it before it was deleted.
Not sure if that's what you want.
Reminds me a lot of dyslexic s holy grail..was based on something just like this...
Quick check, I think he's betting on the group until 9 spins for groups of 4 nrs and 7spins for groups of 5nrs.
I'll study this a bit.
Could it be something to do with just betting on blocks of 9 numbers such as these,
12 14 16 18 19 21 23 25 27- which seems to be the pattern he is betting on at first. These are all red located on one side of the American wheel.
On the same side but black numbers is 2 4 6 8 10 29 31 33 35
The other side red
1 3 5 7 9 30 32 34 36
Black
11 13 15 17 20 22 24 26 28
Other patterns
One side of American wheel
Low odd
1 3 5 7 9 11 13 15 17
High even
20 22 24 26 28 30 32 34 36
Other side
Low even
2 4 6 8 10 12 14 16 18
High odd
19 21 23 25 27 29 31 33 35
Low red 1 3 5 7 9 12 14 16 18
High red 18 19 21 23 25 27 30 31 33 35
Low black 2 4 6 8 10 11 13 15 17
High Black 20 22 24 26 26 28 29 31 33 35
I have had some very good days just betting on these 9 number patters when they seem to be hitting.
Found this:
link:s://betselection.cc/chrisbis/data-for-analysis/
Kinda explaining how to play it.
Will give it a shot.
Quote from: Bigbroben on May 25, 06:18 AM 2018
Will give it a SHOT.
Yes give it a CumSHOT
:xd:
Quote from: Roulettebeater on May 25, 09:46 AM 2018
Yes give it a CumSHOT
:xd:
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Looks good. Maybe not a HG but worth to test it.
First test on these explanations:
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Test one, very few spins, though...
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Bigroben ,
I like this because it’s essentially flat betting
Moving up a unit if in the negative after 5 spins?
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Jul 12, 11:17 AM 2018
Bigroben ,
I like this because it’s essentially flat betting
Moving up a unit if in the negative after 5 spins?
Sure may be worth it.
I am not sure it would hold long term...
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Hit and run.
Play for a statistically insignificant number of spins.
Here are the links I got the hints from:
link:s://betselection.cc/chrisbis/data-for-analysis/
link:s://betselection.cc/even-chance-8/triple-shooter-for-even-chances/75/
A positive progression was proposed in the first link and the strategy is different. Still, the reading is very interesting.
I agree with hit and run. Would propose a smaller stop-loss and a greater goal, something like stop-loss -100u and goal 200u?
Here is result of short session with Modi 1 .It is simple ,straight forward ,continuous play.No triggers.Tomorrow will try another 350-400 spins session.
Also will try Vaddis system .thanks to "junscissorhands" for a hint."bet on more than 9 and less than 18 numbers". Hopefully I will get it straight.
By the way MODI 1 is all about flat betting.
Nice canam :thumbsup:
Quote from: Canam on Jul 14, 12:11 AM 2018
Here is result of short session with Modi 1 .It is simple ,straight forward ,continuous play.No triggers.Tomorrow will try another 350-400 spins session.
Did you plây opposite group of the 5th last outcome or the latest repeating group?
Here's a quick test:
play last 3 groups until a loss. Add the new 4th group. Play until a loss. Restart then at 3 groups.
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Quote from: Bigbroben on Jul 14, 08:28 AM 2018
Here's a quick test:
play last 3 groups until a loss. Add the new 4th group. Play until a loss. Restart then at 3 groups.
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What do you mean here?
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Jul 14, 08:40 AM 2018
What do you mean here?
I played last 3 groups that hit. Stay at 3 until a loss. Up then to play last 4 groups, stay at 4 until a loss.
Back to 3 groups.
And it fails for sure eventually
Quote from: Canam on Jul 14, 12:11 AM 2018
Here is result of short session with Modi 1 .It is simple ,straight forward ,continuous play.No triggers.Tomorrow will try another 350-400 spins session.
it seems there are a few interpretations
which are you doing? thank you
It’s to early to collaborate on Modi 1.It should be tested much more.But I beleive in inventors words wheh he said “I have given you a GOLD MINEâ€.
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Jul 14, 09:50 AM 2018
it seems there are a few interpretations
which are you doing? thank you
I do not know how MODI1 played his groups. I did read the links above, tried many methods. I think any method has potential to rise and to fall. Perhaps no one found his way yet, or mayBe his gold mine is not so.
I personnaly prefer to add groups as they come and bet on the groups until last repeating group.
Ex:
Out:
New Old
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3 Play Low Red Odd
1 Win. Play LRO
8 Lose. Play LRO, LBE
21 Lose. Play LRO, LBE, HRO
22 Lose, Play LRO, LBE, HRO, HBE
21 Win. Play HRO, HBE
18 Lose. Play HRO, HBE, LRE
20 Win. Play HRO, HBE, LRE
29 Lose. Play HRO, HBE, LRE, HBO
23 Win. Play HRO, HBE, LRE, HBO
28 Win. Play HBE, HBO, HRO.
You playing modified Modi 1.Original explained in the link that you posted.
I thought it was not explained???
Which is the way? Play last repeating group of the two colors?
It’s a bit more complex than that ,but it’s easy to grasp.One just have to read what inventor is written.He explained everything.In details with examples.
Quote from: Mako on Jul 14, 01:46 AM 2018
Nice canam :thumbsup:
Thanks,but it need much more testing .
Quote from: Canam on Jul 14, 10:43 AM 2018
It’s a bit more complex than that ,but it’s easy to grasp.One just have to read what inventor is written.He explained everything.In details with examples.
Cheers GreatGrampa.
Quote from: Canam on Jul 14, 10:43 AM 2018
It’s a bit more complex than that ,but it’s easy to grasp.One just have to read what inventor is written.He explained everything.In details with examples.
Are you referring to when he talked of his L-W input? Play same, if lose, play opposite?
Yes.
I understand what you are doing bigbroben.
I like it because you can play every spin, no triggers. And I like it because it’s flat bet
Now I’m tying to understand what canam is doing
Quote from: Bigbroben on Jul 14, 09:19 AM 2018
I played last 3 groups that hit. Stay at 3 until a loss. Up then to play last 4 groups, stay at 4 until a loss.
Back to 3 groups.
And it fails for sure eventually
If it works why to invent anything else?
Quote from: Canam on Jul 14, 11:10 AM 2018
If it works why to invent anything else?
It does not work bulletproof...
If there is a continuous roll of new groups there is a problem, this is why I prefer a dynamic number of groups.
It worked that time, the next one I was down -300u. I will not show only graphs that are up and up without explanations or reckoning of possible failures.
MODI1 will bust like everything else, but it shows a clear map to how the vaddi bet is played. Try MODI1, under 1500 spins a bust is inevitable.
Quote from: junscissorhands on Jul 15, 05:55 AM 2018
MODI1 will bust like everything else, but it shows a clear map to how the vaddi bet is played. Try MODI1, under 1500 spins a bust is inevitable.
How would you try to avoid the bust ?
By my personal assesment
Quote from: junscissorhands on Jul 15, 05:55 AM 2018
MODI1 will bust like everything else, but it shows a clear map to how the vaddi bet is played. Try MODI1, under 1500 spins a bust is inevitable.
Junscissorshands,if you have to bet “between 9 and 18 numbers by playing Vaddis system†every spin ,isn’t it very busy and stressful game on online casino.They have only 15-20 seconds time frame to place your bet.
it is stressful.
But the key is to know the roulette wheel by heart.
Herby, by changing the Bet Selection.
You also said that your system got a few levels of progression.Vaddis game all about flat bet.He never mentioned any progression in his posts.
What exactly is mobi1
All I see is variations
Like betting against the last 5 even chances all at once.
I don’t see it as anything special just a fun way to play every spin with no triggers
If someone can point me to a post describing mobi1 it would be much appreciated
Thank you
I never talk about progressions, you are not reading properly, Canam.
Quote from: junscissorhands on Jul 15, 12:39 PM 2018
I never talk about progressions, you are not reading properly, Canam.
The HG will include everything you need. Bankroll needed, illustrations of sample plays, once you understand it you can go through as many other scorecards (permanenzen) to see that it's HG and that it never loses.
It contains a 4 progression levels, but after discovering and researching it, i have never ever reached the end of the 3rd progression level plus it has been tested overmore than 20000+ spins with real play and the cards (permanenzen of Wiesbaden, Aachen and Duisburg). I have never seen 3 back to back losses yet!
That is a different system, Canam. That one is completely different than vaddi's. That's a system based on dozens and columns not straight numbers and works perfectly but needs more patience.
Quote from: junscissorhands on Jul 15, 02:22 PM 2018
That is a different system, Canam. That one is completely different than vaddi's. That's a system based on dozens and columns not straight numbers and works perfectly but needs more patience.
did you managed to implement " La bomba " option to vaddis system?
La bomba is not an implementation. It's what David meant with uniform dance in roulette, nothing more.
Can someone point me to mobi1 or how it’s played? I see the variations but am confused on mobi1 itself
Everything is shrouded in secrecy.
I think it was not revealed on the other forum' pages.
Seek, my friend, seek.
Like they did: analyse, try.
I still don't know what the little emojis on the side of the nrs mean... A hit? a change?
Quote from: junscissorhands on Jul 16, 06:59 AM 2018
La bomba is not an implementation. It's what David meant with uniform dance in roulette, nothing more.
while trying refine that system I noticed something interesting, that can increase the performance of vaddis system.Do you want to hear it.?
Please do.
No I don't have to hear it, I know how it works.
Quote from: Bigbroben link=topic=20356.msg205690#msg205690 date=153174d8146
Please do.
You have to know Vaddis to realize the improvement.
why is it called modi 1?
Why is Trump orange?
Why is the biggest population in the world Chinese?
Why are bandana's crooked?
Why is the gap between poor and rich so big?
Why do people have cat allergies?
Why don't I like coriander?
Quote from: junscissorhands on Jul 16, 07:08 PM 2018
Why is Trump orange?
Bet 1u on:
Because of mexicans
Lose
Why is the biggest population in the world Chinese?
Bet 2u on:
Because of mexicans
Lose
Why are bandana's crooked?
Bet 4u on:
Because of mexicans
Lose
Why is the gap between poor and rich so big?
Bet 8u on:
Because of mexicans
Lose
Why do people have cat allergies?
Bet 16u on:
Because of mexicans
Lose
Why don't I like coriander?
Bet 32u on:
Because of mexicans
Lose
I'll just parachute this until a hit.
Quote from: junscissorhands on Jul 16, 07:08 PM 2018
Why is Trump orange?
Why is the biggest population in the world Chinese?
Why are bandana's crooked?
Why is the gap between poor and rich so big?
Why do people have cat allergies?
Why don't I like coriander?
Why is Trump orange?he likely "tans"....also some news outlets may make it worse than it actually is as his makeup artist at the RNC says he is not that orange in person....tanning beds are likely though
Why is the biggest population in the world Chinese?China has the longest continuous history of any country in the worldâ€"3,500 years of written history.
Why are bandana's crooked?Bananas go through a unique process known as negative geotropism. Instead of continuing to grow towards the ground, they start to turn towards the sun. The fruit grows against gravity, giving the banana its familiar curved shape
Why is the gap between poor and rich so big?greed......also the rich keep the poor where they are to SCARE THE SHIT OUT OF THE MIDDLE CLASS
Why do people have cat allergies?People with pet allergies have over-sensitive immune systems. They can react to harmless proteins in the pet's urine, saliva or dander (dead skin cells). The symptoms that result are an allergic reaction
Why don't I like coriander?because you are strange
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Quote from: RouletteGhost on Jul 16, 06:48 PM 2018
why is it called modi 1?
Here is the original thread:
link:s://:.vlsroulette.com/index.php?topic=20773.0
You will notice that it was started by a guy with the user name, MIDO1.Bigbroben, who started
THIS thread, made the big mistake of changing the name to MODI1.
Now to ascertain whether it was a deliberate mistake or an unintentional one on his part, you have to pose that question to Bigbroben himself.
Quote from: DoctorSudoku on Jul 16, 08:02 PM 2018
Here is the original thread:
link:s://:.vlsroulette.com/index.php?topic=20773.0
You will notice that it was started by a guy with the user name, MIDO1.
Bigbroben, who started THIS thread, made the big mistake of changing the name to MODI1.
Now to ascertain whether it was a deliberate mistake or an unintentional one on his part, you have to pose that question to Bigbroben himself.
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Quote from: DoctorSudoku on Jul 16, 08:02 PM 2018
Here is the original thread:
link:s://:.vlsroulette.com/index.php?topic=20773.0
You will notice that it was started by a guy with the user name, MIDO1.
Bigbroben, who started THIS thread, made the big mistake of changing the name to MODI1.
Now to ascertain whether it was a deliberate mistake or an unintentional one on his part, you have to pose that question to Bigbroben ehimself.
Oops was it MIDO1?
Let it be so then. MIDO. Love it.
so whats the method?
link:s://:.vlsroulette.com/index.php?topic=20773.0
secret? not a secret? secret again?
someone post the method lol
when noone posts the method it becomes suspect
even from day one its been shrouded in secrecy
Obviously the method was deleted on VLS, but maybe this Jerrybuilder guy broke the secret on page2...
There is this thing said about 36 spin rotation and ''you will have to see how cycles are forming up from 6 to 12 spins maybe more....''
Something to think over...
Please share not just a graph... :wink: :lol:
Is it a bird? NO!
Is it a plane? NOoooo!
It's GOOGLEMAN!!!
Thanks for googling, Sherlock.
Ps : did you know half the world population either loves or hates coriander? 50-50 game.
I like your method bigbroben, thanks for sharing. Love parachutes, lifesavers.
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lol ghost, this killed me... ;D ;D ;D
A new observation:
did you noticed the nrs that have a figure beside them are only in the groups that contain 4 nrs?
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Interesting observation
I’ve read that thread many times and am trying to figure out why he put figures next to certain numbers
Because no one is actually capable of just saying what they are doing we have to guess....
Playing a group of 4 nrs flat allows you up to 9 spins to profit or break-even, as opposed to 7 spins for 5-nrs groups.
Did a test once parlaying a group and got good results.
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Quote from: Bigbroben on Jul 17, 09:05 AM 2018
A new observation:
did you noticed the nrs that have a figure beside them are only in the groups that contain 4 nrs?
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great observation.
This is for Modi and Vaddis belivers in *magic* numbers, or magic
flat bet dreamers.
ANY 4 numbers groups or 6 numbers groups or 8 numbers groups (or...)
are just groups of numbers with no magical conection between
numbers, all groups of numbers have same chance to hit or not hit
in the next spins.
The only think you can do(still not enough) is bet on temporally hot groups( keep update)
or bet positions 1(FTL) or pos 2 (segond last) or pos 3 with positive progression. And
bet only for few spins for avoid long Ls streaks. No matter what trigger you use still
not guarantee that some group will hit in the next few spins , not talking about long
attack /negative progression stile , the worse....
Prove me that the *magic 8* or other magic will hit ....sometimes will ,
sometimes not , as expected....
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There are maybe electric conections.....
And that groups was only example, all groups are same....uh wait... maybe groups in fixed patterns are not.....
its about what happen with numbers after every 4 spins, its not about groups of numbers.THIS IS HOW VADDI EXPLAINED HIS SYSTEM.
HI junscissorhands.Thanks for that hint about being between 9 and 18 numbers .Now it works all the time, but the problem is ,Vaddi mentioned only 8 numbers.All he was talking about ,was that number 8 ,nothing else.Are you sure you playing real Vaddis system?
In this case I would say bet between 3 and 10 numbers.Or as you said it has not enough reach?
Quote from: Canam on Jul 17, 03:31 PM 2018
HI junscissorhands.Thanks for that hint about being between 9 and 18 numbers .Now it works all the time, but the problem is ,Vaddi mentioned only 8 numbers.All he was talking about ,was that number 8 ,nothing else.Are you sure you playing real Vaddis system?
From what he's said he played it with lower numbers initially, but it wasn't as successful as when he tested playing more numbers. It won for a while but eventually lost after long runs if <10. As Sergio said, Jun is playing a modified version.
Quote from: PassionRuleta on Jul 17, 04:19 PM 2018
There are 8 numbers on the HG vaddis, junscissorhands will surely play 12-16 numbers but that is not vaddis and logically it is normal that it hits more frequently since there are more numbers, but a bad streak, that there are, destroys the box because you're losing from 12-16
Plus playing 12-16 #s could get intense, even with the slow pace of a B&M wheel you really would have to stay sharp.
thanks Sergio.To play between 9 and 18 number online sounds very busy.
Quote from: Canam on Jul 17, 04:38 PM 2018
thanks Sergio.To play between 9 and 18 number online sounds very busy.
A lot of us have whined about Sergio's mystery posts, but if you look at the details he's actually given some great details that really help....cheers :thumbsup:
Quote from: PassionRuleta on Jul 17, 04:32 PM 2018
They are only 8 numbers, but you have to know when to enter and when to leave, you know that leaving is a tie or benefit, but enter? :lol:
something to think about.
So now we have the 8 Magic and the 4 spin Wonder, this is like
Captain America and Wonder Woman together , must be the bomb(balanced one)........
Then their child would be called TiMiWoBaBo *The magic wonder balanced bomb*
Jokes aside :wink: , i belive that some can win with this or that...but long term and call HG ? :yawn:
well meanwhile wins ...happy winnings....
Btw....no way to know when the balance come back , maybe just guess sometimes because you
see there an event /pattern almost each time, and no way to know exactly when to enter
en when to quit , but hey you can try....
Also can try(like me) to produce yourself with few past spins the imbalance, maybe the balance
come back .....or not.....because each spin is independent ...but a sequence is not anymore.
Listen guys, vaddis original posts on MM forum Clearly stated that he played 8 numbers.
He has said even when playing longer cycles the bankroll goes up and down in perfect waves so he can cream away the profit.
But his system can be played continuously up and down BUT Without depleting the whole bankroll. But playing 8 numbers the bankroll will completely vanish when playing continously. That's why vaddi's method can't be 8 numbers.
My hint with between 9 or 18 is flexible, and you can survive and cream away the profit when playing nonstop.
The whole point is if you have to know when to enter and when to exit then you are not playing nonstop which means you rely on luck and variance.
If your system is an HG like vaddi you can play non stop 10, 100 or 100000 spin cycles without depleting your bankroll.
When you can do that, then you have vaddis hg.
Please re-read my posts carefully, and you will understand the real balance in every spincycle. There is a law in each cycle that must happen.
I'll give you an another big hint, because I feel like it :
you do not look at every 4 spins for indication for balance, you look at every 8 spins for the right indication.
Quote from: junscissorhands on Jul 17, 06:54 PM 2018
I'll give you an another big hint, because I feel like it :
you do not look at every 4 spins for indication for balance, you look at every 8 spins for the right indication.
this is what I tried and its always work, but so far ,but I can't imagine to play this way online on the long run.The time frame is brutal.
Quote from: junscissorhands on Jul 17, 06:46 PM 2018
Listen guys, vaddis original posts on MM forum Clearly stated that he played 8 numbers.
He has said even when playing longer cycles the bankroll goes up and down in perfect waves so he can cream away the profit.
But his system can be played continuously up and down BUT Without depleting the whole bankroll. But playing 8 numbers the bankroll will completely vanish when playing continously. That's why vaddi's method can't be 8 numbers.
My hint with between 9 or 18 is flexible, and you can survive and cream away the profit when playing nonstop.
Agree.With 8 numbers time to time bankroll goes down beyond 200 units, than it s very hard to recover .I went only up to 8 cycles.And it was no profit yet.
there should be something that will make it possible to profit with 8 numbers bet.
No Canam I have tried for many many many years 8 numbers won't work. I know vaddi's system inside out, if there is a PhD on vaddi's method I would have it.
All the variations will only work with hit and run. Just like Mr J method, hit and run continuously play will destroy bankroll.
For the people who don't have the final form of vaddi just play hit and run. Vaddis uncompleted form has a good hit rate. You can win 8 out of 10 sessions easily when you keep sessions extremely short.
I normally advise against airball roulette machines, but if you happen to have a spintec machine in your neighborhood, play that one. That machine has a different algorithm than other machines and can be very profitable when using some of the methods mentioned here.
Thanks Jun, you are on fire today :love:
Quote from: junscissorhands on Jul 17, 07:06 PM 2018
I normally advise against airball roulette machines, but if you happen to have a spintec machine in your neighborhood, play that one. That machine has a different algorithm than other machines and can be very profitable when using some of the methods mentioned here.
my local casino is all airball machines
i follow a simple rule....i only play when others are playing...if you are alone the software can easily beat you...however if im playing with people throwing hundreds each spin im less of a target
the airball machines seem pretty random
Quote from: Mako on Jul 17, 02:55 AM 2018
lol ghost, this killed me... ;D ;D ;D
:thumbsup:
Quote from: junscissorhands on Jul 17, 07:06 PM 2018
I normally advise against airball roulette machines, but if you happen to have a spintec machine in your neighborhood, play that one. That machine has a different algorithm than other machines and can be very profitable when using some of the methods mentioned here.
Is it anyway to detect Spintec Airboll machine?IS it different than others in any way?
Quote from: junscissorhands on Jul 17, 07:04 PM 2018
No Canam I have tried for many many many years 8 numbers won't work. I know vaddi's system inside out, if there is a PhD on vaddi's method I would have it.
All the variations will only work with hit and run. Just like Mr J method, hit and run continuously play will destroy bankroll.
For the people who don't have the final form of vaddi just play hit and run. Vaddis uncompleted form has a good hit rate. You can win 8 out of 10 sessions easily when you keep sessions extremely short.
I tried 8 numbers for years too and my best results were with a little upgrade ,which is about changing directions of the singles after every hit.Never went down more than 100 units.Even with that upgrade it can take along time to recover.
Airball machines simulate randomness as a real wheel. But the imbalances are never too extreme, for example on a live wheel you can have extreme where a sector is hitting WAY above average. As in the airball machines it evens out pretty much as in distribution wise.
Spintec is a manufacturer. Interlock and alfa should be avoided.
Yes never play alone, those machines can hit any number they want. Also everybody knows they act like slot machines there are certain times that the machine payout and certain moments it just takes.
yes i agree, never play on them alone
however i have seen lone players win big
I've been there and done that. Changing directions on the singles, (uniques) means you have to choose which means you are gambling.
If you have a steady mechanical system then random will guide you where to bet, we do not have to choose.
The machine took a lot of money if they want to pay out lone players.
Or those lone players understand the distribution of the machine, because they replicate live wheels certain numbers Must hit. Experienced airball players that win big usually only bet on less than 5 numbers. Thats how u recognize them.
I got single zero airball roulette near me which allows 40 seconds to make a bet, but will it allow to win this is another question.
anyone interested in a master roulette system for high stakes and profit ?
There is a weakness on airball machines, they are programmed to distribute evenly at the end. I know most players here will say past spins or statistics are useless, but on airball machines, those statistics is the reason why you can win on airball machines.
Listen to me check out spintec machines and check their spin histories. You will be surprised.
Quote from: junscissorhands on Jul 17, 07:22 PM 2018
The machine took a lot of money if they want to pay out lone players.
Or those lone players understand the distribution of the machine, because they replicate live wheels certain numbers Must hit. Experienced airball players that win big usually only bet on less than 5 numbers. Thats how u recognize them.
This is will be hard to recognize anything this way ,because all chinese players closing almost all screen with their bets and still loosing.
Do not play more than 15 numbers on airball machines and not less than 5 to generate consistent profit.
Quote from: junscissorhands on Jul 17, 07:28 PM 2018
Do not play more than 15 numbers on airball machines and not less than 5 to generate consistent profit.
where are you getting this information
Quote from: Canam on Jul 17, 07:23 PM 2018
I got single zero airball roulette near me which allows 40 seconds to make a bet, but will it allow to win this is another question.
Bubble Craps and Airball Roulette are regulated in Atlantic City and Las Vegas as "slot machines" as Jun is referencing, which means the consumer protection and regulation rules that casinos have to observe on them in the US are far different than the table games.
Not necessarily worse for the bettor, but different for sure.
Quote from: junscissorhands on Jul 17, 07:28 PM 2018
Do not play more than 15 numbers on airball machines and not less than 5 to generate consistent profit.
Thanks a lot junscissorhands.This is very interesting info.
For the casual gambler the slot machine can be profitable, but you have to be at the right time at the right place.
Rouletteghost, that's my own personal info after years of experience with airball. What I've said has to do with statistics.
Quote from: Mako on Jul 17, 07:31 PM 2018
Bubble Craps and Airball Roulette are regulated in Atlantic City and Las Vegas as "slot machines" as Jun is referencing, which means the consumer protection and regulation rules that casinos have to observe on them in the US are far different than the table games.
Not necessarily worse for the bettor, but different for sure.
i live out on long island....suburbs of NYC....table games are just being legalized in New York...our 2nd live dealer casino was just built
resorts world casino in Queens has airball wheels...they used the slot machine loophole to get them through
Quote from: junscissorhands on Jul 17, 07:28 PM 2018
Do not play more than 15 numbers on airball machines and not less than 5 to generate consistent profit.
Here we can say that Vaddis system is pretty much flexible to fit certain conditions.
the airball wheels speed up and slow down to deter VB players
so if the wheel can just land on whatever number it wanted to, why would they speed it up and slow it down to confuse visual ballistics players?
if the theory is true that the airball wheel is NOT random then they speed up/slow down feature would not be neccessary
i think you are talking a lot of speculation but not solid proof
Canam there is a connection between the 5 and the 15, when you understand some basic fundamentals then you will know when you play it for longer periods. The statistics or history on the machine will fit into the picture of what i've said.
"The VB players descended on these airball's like herds of locusts, only to discover the folks who manufacture them saw them coming way back in the planning stages. VB and bias players are dinosaurs who are still living in the 90's in their minds. Very sad.."
Because most people assume the machines slow down and speed up to avoid VB predictions. But the fact is they speed it or slow it down to get it into the sector they want.
It's either air suction or magnets, look at the drop of the ball it is way more unnatural than a normal wheel. It just drops dead into a pocket straight boom.
And if the machine misses out on a certain number it was supposed to fall it will happen some spins later. The machine has to correct its own system.
im with you
ive seen it do weird things, like jump pockets...
do we have proof there is air or magnets though?
Quote from: PassionRuleta on Jul 17, 07:31 PM 2018
This is what I do, as I understood it ...(link:://:.pichost.org/images/2018/07/17/temp_688532.jpg) (link:://:.pichost.org/image/2p42c) :thumbsup:
Hi Sergio.It it continuous play without triggers?At least its look like it.
These machines can be beaten because they force randomness into it. It's not natural. What is not natural can be exploited.
I've said enough, have a look for yourselves. Observe these machines for a longer periods of time not just stats but also how it behaves ball drops and scatter.
Quote from: junscissorhands on Jul 17, 07:45 PM 2018
These machines can be beaten because they force randomness into it. It's not natural. What is not natural can be exploited.
interesting
RG, pure common sense and logic.
These are slot machines.
We live in a world where things are very gray, especially with law and stuff.
We don't need proof, we know it. Equip yourself with this and you can beat it more often than you think. Don't approach them as a normal wheel.
With these machines sometimes you get event which you think nah this cant happen again ie a repeat after 3 times. Always bet the anti event. The machine always try to outsmart you. Programed to trick the logical mind.
Quote from: junscissorhands on Jul 17, 07:38 PM 2018
Canam there is a connection between the 5 and the 15, when you understand some basic fundamentals then you will know when you play it for longer periods. The statistics or history on the machine will fit into the picture of what i've said.
Maybe there is opportunity for it for live dealer roulette.
Yes Canam, but the board and the marquee must hold the right information.
Certain Marquees show the wrong hot numbers for example be careful. I've lost money in the past because of this, made a mistake.
an airball machine evens out, you are right....but we still dont know when or how to bet
Quote from: PassionRuleta on Jul 17, 07:49 PM 2018
Think of roulette in these terms and not others:
24 numbers land
12 times the proportion of land
twenty-one.
Factors 4 and 8
24/8 = 3
12/4 = 3
That is the basis of the grail.
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Vaddi
:
8 numbers for the strategy of doubles + singles?
or ...
Only 4 numbers for the doubles strategy only?
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Do you see the guys balance?
Which means that if the n. ° 2 lands, then you must bet on n. ° 2 and n. ° 3 at the same time. Splits or single chip.
As above, always choose your pairings in the future.
However, what happens if # 3 is already covered? In that case, go back and cover # 1 instead. That's because, as in the previous table, # 2 is also connected to # 1.
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Guys, there are two pairings that I should have mentioned:
the backward pairing for 0 is 36.
The progressive pairing for 36 is 0.
And we have the following forward pairings:
0 | 1
1 | 2
2 | 3
3 | 4
4 | 5
5 | 6
6 | 7
7 | 8
8 | 9
9 | 10
10 | eleven
11 | 12
12 | 13
13 | 14
14 | fifteen
15 | 16
16 | 17
17 | 18
18 | 19
19 | twenty
20 | twenty-one
21 | 22
22 | 2. 3
23 | 24
24 | 25
25 | 26
26 | 27
27 | 28
28 | 29
29 | 30
30 | 31
31 | 32
32 | 33
33 | 3. 4
34 | 35
35 | 36
36 | 0
That's a total of 37 pairings.
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How could you use the numbers already obtained to 'predict' the numbers that are likely to land later? Smiley
Now, that's the kind of crazy scientist's question that leads to the grail.
No, you can not predict precisely what number will land next, but there is a way to get as close as possible. Smiley
Please do not try to answer this question. I'm throwing it out there. But it has to do with observing how the numbers connect to each other after every 4 turns, depending on the pair table.
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- Flat bets
- Balance
- Paired numbers
- After the wheel
- Doubles (12)
- Singles (24)
- Using fallen numbers to predict future falls
- think in terms of even numbers: 4, 8, 12, 24, 36
The internal numbers constantly 'try' to balance each other in a kind of uniform dance. And there are ways to temporarily exploit the imbalances.
When you discover the grail and play for hours without stopping, you will notice that your swing also moves in perfect cycles / waves up and down.
But, I would not spend hours going up and down when I could simply get extraordinary benefits before I got to the end of a 37-lap cycle, right? Usually, you get profit before 24 laps.
What you would do is rest a few minutes and then start a new spin cycle. :thumbsup: ;D
Sergio ,I have read it for 39734276....... times. :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
You do when you sit there long enough, trust me. These machines require practice, once you get familiar like with interblock megastar g3, you will see certain patterns happening with sector switches.
Like I've said RG spend 3 till 5 days, just observe the machines for few hours. You will get the hang of it. It will feel like you have precog.
Lol I've read it to infinity and beyond.
Vaddis thread is the Bible to winning roulette when used correctly.
Quote from: junscissorhands on Jul 17, 07:52 PM 2018
Yes Canam, but the board and the marquee must hold the right information.
Certain Marquees show the wrong hot numbers for example be careful. I've lost money in the past because of this, made a mistake.
Do you utilize hot numbers to enhance Vaddis system??
My version does not require progressions. But it's not 8 numbers, you read vaddis thread like its set on stone. Remember vaddi laid it out as a PUZZLE
So it cant be that easy. Do your own extensive testings do not rely on what other people say.
8 numbers won't cover balance.
where is vaddis original thread?
Passionruleta, do I have the letters IDIOT written on my forehead or do I come across as Forrest Gump?
QuoteGeneral guidelines and more tips:
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Let's assume that 10 is the maximum of numbers that you will bet on.
Stage 1) Begin single sequence to X numbers (where X represents the maximum numbers that you will bet on)
You enter casino and the number ...
13 has just dropped. Place your unit chip on it. (1 unit in total)
30 drops instead. Now place a unit on 13 and 30 (2 units total)
17 drops instead. Now place a unit on 13, 30, and 17 (3 units total)
13 drops. You win and make a profit.
Quote from: junscissorhands on Jul 17, 08:09 PM 2018
Passionruleta, do I have the letters IDIOT written on my forehead or do I come across as Forrest Gump?
not sure, we have not actually seen your forehead
No face tattoo's for me thanks.
call me devils advocate...but if you had the means to make continuous profit you would not be here:)
I'm not here to prove anything, but I play on terminals and airball, I'm quite bored as I play mechanically.i like to sparkle up some forums and get people thinking.
It's take it or leave it, but if you take my info and go deeper with it you might find something useful out of it. As long you test enough and don't gamble with real money before you get "it".
all im saying is if you found a way to consistently win, like an ATM machine, then what people think of your on a forum wouldnt be a bother
Sergio.
Both sides..
And 8.
Not possible.
If you read my posts, do I seem bothered? I don't give fuck what people think about me, I just have my say here and that's it.
I might come across as negative or aggressive, but some of my posts contain true value. I don't post stupid fallacy stuff after 3 reds and one black bet red, or black high odd bet red low even that sort of recycled shit after ziliions of years.
Been there done that. Won't work, Sergio. I've tried ALL possibilities of 8 numbers.
I would like to see Vaddis face when he read all that.If he read it.BY the way ,after some logical conclusions I believe David is living in the same city as I am.
Quote from: junscissorhands on Jul 17, 08:31 PM 2018
Been there done that. Won't work, Sergio. I've tried ALL possibilities of 8 numbers.
Sergio is talking about utilizing some triggers.
Quote from: junscissorhands on Jul 17, 08:31 PM 2018
Been there done that. Won't work, Sergio. I've tried ALL possibilities of 8 numbers.
I really like that 8 numbers idea.Easy to play.
I know the triggers, the past 8 spins shows the triggers. But it won't work longterm. It's a slow death.
Quote from: junscissorhands on Jul 17, 08:39 PM 2018
I know the triggers, the past 8 spins shows the triggers. But it won't work longterm. It's a slow death.
Maybe 8 spins observation and only a few spins betting after that.
Completely wrong that's not vaddis the pairings are completely wrong, you my friend do not have a clue about vaddi's play.
Quote from: junscissorhands on Jul 17, 08:46 PM 2018
Completely wrong that's not vaddis the pairings are completely wrong, you my friend do not have a clue about vaddi's play.
noone really knows vaddi play because he never disclosed it
he gave hints and clues just like everyone else
everything surrounding it is pure speculation
Quote from: PassionRuleta on Jul 17, 08:41 PM 2018
Look I will give an idea of ​​a way that is one step ahead of what should be done according to vaddis and that even so it works well for the always echo that one of the two has to create the repetition.
Wait for a couple to come out and play in a short range of balls.
If another one is added, and so on, as there will be few pairs that you incorporate into your game because they will be only those that have come out in short gaps, you will quickly start to take hits, if those couples are within the small gap they can continue playing, if they pass from the short gap they will have to be eliminated.
Anytime we are positive, we reset the game and play again.
Example:
27-23-2-14-29-24 - pair 23-24 came out in a gap of 5 balls.
We will play this couple and continue to see numbers next.
27-23-2-14-29-24-36-8-13- couple 13-14 enter to play as well.
27-23-2-14-29-24-36-8-13-23 - correct pair 23-24, is within a small gap we look at our balance if we are positive we start a new session, if we are negative this couple continues Playing.
27-23-2-14-29-24-36-8-13-23-2-4-6-33-0-28- We do not take the pair 27-28, it's a gap too long, we do not want to play many couples.
27-23-2-14-29-24-36-8-13-23-2-4-6-33-0-28-31-31-14- hit 13-14, we look gap is too long, this couple stops playing until it forms in a short gap.
As long as we have a favorable balance we start a totally new session.
This form is something based only for repetitions, of each pair that is formed with time one of the two numbers will fall as repeated, law of the third 24 only 12 repeated- 2: 1.
I hope you like it and tell me that, I hope I have explained well.
regards
PS: surely many of you will not have so many complaints that I do not say anything, this is not vaddis, but if there is something and balance of repeated ones, but in a different way.
Sergio ,why it is 5 balls gap ,not 4 or 8 for example?
I am already said in the past that it is very possible that everyone has their own version of Vaddis system based on his concept and everyone think that its a genuine one.
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Jul 17, 08:57 PM 2018
impossible
Why would you take that out of consideration.I know.
Quote from: PassionRuleta on Jul 17, 09:02 PM 2018
Canam is an example, this is not vaddis, it is something that I saw after many sessions, but the gap is 8 maximum. :thumbsup:
Now its make sense.Thanks.
So Sergio your example doesn't bust?
Do you play the couple with the 8 block or you only play the couples up to 8 numbers.
Sergio does have the Vaddis process. As well as a few other methods we've talked about at length.
Sometimes his intent gets lost in translation, but he actually does want to see people do well.
Vaddis felt the same way, you read his posts on his system and he doesn't want to give it away step by step. He wants each person to take the journey using his map and find the destination. Vaddis provided enough clues, which is how others have arrived there...Jun included.
There are different reasons why someone who possesses the grail will still participate on a forum.
Some like the sound of their own voice, and want attention and are famewhores who are too chickenshit to actually risk the full bankroll necessary to put their grail into real play (Turbo), while others do it to pass the time while they actually ARE playing (Jun) and still others who like the interaction, the back and forth discussion of new ideas, new versions, etc (Vaddis, Sergio).
All are valid reasons why someone would still post despite having their particular "final" way to play. :thumbsup:
Quote from: PassionRuleta on Jul 17, 08:41 PM 2018
Look I will give an idea of ​​a way that is one step ahead of what should be done according to vaddis and that even so it works well for the always echo that one of the two has to create the repetition.
Wait for a couple to come out and play in a short range of balls.
If another one is added, and so on, as there will be few pairs that you incorporate into your game because they will be only those that have come out in short gaps, you will quickly start to take hits, if those couples are within the small gap they can continue playing, if they pass from the short gap they will have to be eliminated.
Anytime we are positive, we reset the game and play again.
Example:
27-23-2-14-29-24 - pair 23-24 came out in a gap of 5 balls.
We will play this couple and continue to see numbers next.
27-23-2-14-29-24-36-8-13- couple 13-14 enter to play as well.
27-23-2-14-29-24-36-8-13-23 - correct pair 23-24, is within a small gap we look at our balance if we are positive we start a new session, if we are negative this couple continues Playing.
27-23-2-14-29-24-36-8-13-23-2-4-6-33-0-28- We do not take the pair 27-28, it's a gap too long, we do not want to play many couples.
27-23-2-14-29-24-36-8-13-23-2-4-6-33-0-28-31-31-14- hit 13-14, we look gap is too long, this couple stops playing until it forms in a short gap.
As long as we have a favorable balance we start a totally new session.
This form is something based only for repetitions, of each pair that is formed with time one of the two numbers will fall as repeated, law of the third 24 only 12 repeated- 2: 1.
I hope you like it and tell me that, I hope I have explained well.
regards
PS: surely many of you will not have so many complaints that I do not say anything, this is not vaddis, but if there is something and balance of repeated ones, but in a different way.
This is actually quite good. It's not Vaddis HG obviously, but it's better than the majority of nonsense we've attempted lately.
Quote from: Mako on Jul 17, 09:54 PM 2018
This is actually quite good. It's not Vaddis HG obviously, but it's better than the majority of nonsense we've attempted lately.
:twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
Mako, well said.
This game is a brutal one, I've lost a lot before getting where i am now. I'm willing to help, but you need to take it up a notch and put some effort and time into it. What you put in is what you get back.
I do not doubt Sergios's version, but the part where he asks for money put me off. No need to ask when you can make it yourself. Get me?
Quote from: junscissorhands on Jul 17, 09:58 PM 2018
Mako, well said.
This game is a brutal one, I've lost a lot before getting where i am now. I'm willing to help, but you need to take it up a notch and put some effort and time into it. What you put in is what you get back.
I do not doubt Sergios's version, but the part where he asks for money put me off. No need to ask when you can make it yourself. Get me?
I hear you, and also want to say I appreciate how you've contributed in this thread...very nice Jun. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
The money part doesn't turn me off. The reason why is that sometimes people have a method, they want to genuinely help people, but there has to be a money barrier otherwise mouth-breathers take it for granted, post stupid shit about it, etc. You know the usual suspects.
I would have no problem based on what I've read buying a method from you OR Sergio if I were in the market. Nothing either of you have done has turned me off in terms of the usual system-sell-scam fools we've seen dozens of over the years.
Trust me it's way more satisfying to be able to find your own. It also means you've deserved it.
If you have a fairly good iq and good at recognizing patterns,clusters and distributions then there's a high possibility of finding one.
Just be careful of system sellers mako.
But this one seems so legit...they reproduced the "graph" and everything...
:twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
Here's an idea from Breeze88 on the VLS forum.
"Just brainstorming here
if any EC start to cluster for at least 3 times in a row .. like 27,25,23 .. 3 reds in a row
write down those numbers ..
as soon as one of those numbers comes in again .. the cluster is activated .. and we bet 1 unit on each of those numbers... the cluster stays active for 10 spins ie .. if a number from the cluster showed up we bet 10 spins on that cluster .. if it hits .. eraes the cluster if after 10 spins ther has not been a hit earse it..
the number to activate the cluster has to come in 10 spins .. i f it doesent show up within 10 spins the cluster wasent active and will be erased..
all those values are optional .. there is plenty of room to adjust several values.. to fit our needs..
just brainstorming... nothing set in stone .. and not a full system..
i will play arround with different values.... letz see .. if iam on to something... "
Badger, for someone of your caliber it disappoints me that you come with this type of fallacy crap. Please discard that asap.
Hey JSH
Awesome. Thanks for the compliment. I never knew I had calibre. 8)
As for my post. It was in answer to Ruletta's post at 12:41
I should have quoted his post. Nothing to do with VADDI except maybe to confirm the dance with numbers and how others have interpreted it.
Quote from: PassionRuleta on Jul 18, 10:15 AM 2018
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Come on passionruletta.
According to this nice graph, you should be rich now!
Why you begging people to buy your hg system for 300 euro ?
Quote from: PassionRuleta on Jul 18, 10:43 AM 2018
This is not an HG.
It's something that happens a lot and you can win pretty well. This I do not sell it, as you see I have published it to silence many mouths. Now you can see that it works pretty well and it is not even an HG, it is not vaddis but the idea came out looking for vaddis and it works as long as it is correct.
Now, how many are the people who try it and verify that it works, how many are the ones that will compensate me for having put something so simple, sending money to my PayPal of their earnings, surely nobody, right?
Now you understand why I do not give or vaddis not turbo for less than â,¬ 5000 or still do not understand it?
What do I earn when people make money with something that I have created with my effort? NOTHING is not fair, right?
I'll put my PayPal to have how many are really grateful, even with what of vaddis or Turbo would be more surprised and now I'm going for modi1, gentlemen. :twisted: :wink:
PayPal: SCAMMER.es :thumbsup:
Who’s the stupid who gonna pay you money for sharing a graph ?
Guys, be careful to not get screwed by this scammer !
:girl_to:
Bugiardo spagnolo !
Figa, va cagare furbo
Merda
Quote from: junscissorhands on Jul 17, 08:31 PM 2018
Been there done that. Won't work, Sergio. I've tried ALL possibilities of 8 numbers.
Hi Junscissors hands.
Sand rink is the person who got direct contact with Vaddi at the moment when system was introduced to the forum.
Sandrino.
Be very very very careful with Passionruleta, he is definitely does Not have vaddi's method. No one would be so persistent into luring and almost begging people to send him money on PayPal.
Surely a winner would never do such hideous things like this. Sergio, if you are winning good for you, but stop asking people to send you money or asking me to go on Skype to reveal how I play. The reason is that you can't get this to win consistently, the bankroll depletes.
You show graphs of short sessions, show more than 10.000 spins (or your socalled ballsacks) with your socalled vaddi's with no intervals in between. See where your bankroll goes.
Sorry Sergio, I find your behavior rather disgusting.
Canam, what do you want to tell me with that information?
Quote from: junscissorhands on Jul 18, 01:22 PM 2018
Be very very very careful with Passionruleta, he is definitely does Not have vaddi's method. No one would be so persistent into luring and almost begging people to send him money on PayPal.
Surely a winner would never do such hideous things like this. Sergio, if you are winning good for you, but stop asking people to send you money or asking me to go on Skype to reveal how I play. The reason is that you can't get this to win consistently, the bankroll depletes.
You show graphs of short sessions, show more than 10.000 spins (or your socalled ballsacks) with your socalled vaddi's with no intervals in between. See where your bankroll goes.
Sorry Sergio, I find your behavior rather disgusting.
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And I urge moderators to have a look into this. There is no point of putting 15 graphs a day here to advertise his so-called hg. We know it already, just stop. Sergio needs money. Better make a crowd funding and beg, at least you're honest then. You can add your fancy graphs there if it floats your boat.
Change your nick to PassionGraphica or something.
To me it sounds like vaddi was playing each number as they come up to 8 numbers
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Then be happy with what you have don't ever ask for money, you lose all credibility.
RG, you are in the beginner's phase of Vaddi's method I don't blame you. 8 numbers won't work, he keeps saying it works, but doesn't know and can't prove a 10.000 spins graph with his 8 numbers.
Anyone with a little bit of common sense knows PR is hot air like TG.
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Jul 18, 01:35 PM 2018
To me it sounds like vaddi was playing each number as they come up to 8 numbers
Quote from: PassionRuleta on Jul 18, 01:44 PM 2018Regarding vaddis, is to play 8 numbers
Could be 8#'s as in 10 spins theres at least a 78% chance of a repeat
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So out the 120 sets 10/10 happened 26 times
Best source for #'s according to the general. Random.org
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See repeat in 1st 10
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Oh look all 37 gone in 123 spins
Let you all get on with Vaddi
scissors or is it general
2nd set yesterday
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So why should it not be 8 #'s for Vaddi, anyway you carry on pissing in the wind
What do you want to achieve with those graphs? What's with people and their graphs on this forum, is that a way of showing that you can win? If you win then win enjoy your money, don't waste time making those graphs. It's not whose got the biggest willy contest here.
Quote from: PassionRuleta on Jul 18, 01:44 PM 2018
I do not care what they say and at least two people who do not contribute anything to this forum and one of them already showed me that he is a loser (roulette beater).
Have you tried what I said yesterday?
Regarding vaddis, is to play 8 numbers after 4 turns and if you say no, you are the one who has no idea of vaddis.
And he does not say to play all the time, but in some more secure moments where he is unbalanced and has to balance, but not in the way that people think.
Certainly what I have published is better than what you do and it is not a holy grail. It bothers? It was not my intention, but it is simple to win, but try as I say and you will see the results, logically you can not be all day winning but you can enter and win when there are the best possibilities. And keep gaining little by little constant.
Passionruletta,
i told you in the past, you can not scam users in this forum!
many have tried this trick before you!
you might be able to scam people around you in spain but here you have no chance!
you are begging people since a week or so to buy your system and lately you are even asking for a donation.
regarding myself, i dont give a damn to what you claim, because i very well know how scamers behave!
you have nothing to sell, all what you have is a big mouth and a greed to fill your pocket with money from your victims!
boy, learn a new job, then you're going to go through a period of adjustment.. some training, some new skills, and some time to get yourself adapted... but you will be better
Quote from: junscissorhands on Jul 18, 01:25 PM 2018
Canam, what do you want to tell me with that information?
It is hard to
leave that 8 numbers idea after years of thinking about it.
Can someone tell me if this is a dissent performance of the roulette system?This is Modi 1.
Quote from: Canam on Jul 18, 03:06 PM 2018
Can someone tell me if this is a dissent performance of the roulette system?This is Modi 1.
What is the bet selection Canam, and what unit size? Looks like you're on the right track... :thumbsup:
Quote from: PassionRuleta on Jul 18, 10:15 AM 2018
Look, I will give an idea in a way that is one step ahead of what should be done according to vaddis and that, even so, works well for the constant echo that one of the two has to create the repetition.
Wait for a pair to come out and play in a short range of balls.
If another one is added, and so on, since there will be few pairs that you incorporate in your game, since they will be only those that have come out in short spaces, you will quickly begin to receive successes, if those couples are in the game. small gap that can continue playing, if they go through the short space they will have to be eliminated.
Every time we are positive, we restart the game and play again.
Example:
27-23-2-14-29-24 - par 23-24 came out in a space of 5 balls.
We will play with this couple and we will continue to see the numbers below.
27-23-2-14-29-24-36-8-13- couple 13-14 enter to play as well.
27-23-2-14-29-24-36-8-13-23 - correct pair 23-24, within a small space we analyze our balance if we are positive we begin a new session, if we are negative this couple continues playing.
27-23-2-14-29-24-36-8-13-23-2-4-6-33-0-28- We do not take the pair 27-28, it's too long, we do it I do not want play many couples.
27-23-2-14-29-24-36-8-13-23-2-4-6-33-0-28-31-31-14- press 13-14, we see that the gap is too long , this couple stops playing until it forms in a short space.
As long as we have a favorable balance we will begin a totally new session.
This form is based only on the repetitions, of each pair that is formed over time one of the two numbers will fall as it is repeated, the law of the third 24 only repeats 12: 2: 1.
I hope you like it and tell me that, I hope I explained it well.
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PS: surely many of you will not have so many complaints that I do not say anything, this is not vaddis, but if there is something and the balance of the repeated, but in a different way.
I mentioned it yesterday and have spent limited time with it, but this looks workable. Not as good as a finalized MOBI system (which we don't have yet) and certainly not a possible grail like Vaddis (which most of us also don't have yet). Anyone with some free time give it a shot, so far so good.
We get sidetracked when people try to sell information, and rightfully so as it's good the forum looks to protect each other. But this is something worthwhile in the limited time I've had to play with it.
Quote from: Mako on Jul 18, 03:11 PM 2018
What is the bet selection Canam, and what unit size? Looks like you're on the right track... :thumbsup:
The bet selection is a bit complicated to explain ,but GreatGrampa did it great.This is one unit bet on one number.I am trying different modifications from original system now ,to make this line up a bit smoother.
Quote from: Canam on Jul 18, 03:18 PM 2018
The bet selection is a bit complicated to explain ,but GreatGrampa did it great.This is one unit bet on one number.I am trying different modifications from original system now ,to make this line up a bit smoother.
His negative cyclic progression (1111,2222,3333, etc, then down -1 level after a hit)?
Whatever you're doing, nice work, keep it up. :love:
Quote from: Mako on Jul 18, 03:21 PM 2018
His negative cyclic progression (1111,2222,3333, etc, then down -1 level after a hit)?
Whatever you're doing, nice work, keep it up. :love:
No.Just strait up betting 1 unit on one number continuously without any progression.
Quote from: Canam on Jul 18, 03:30 PM 2018
No.Just strait up betting 1 unit on one number continuously without any progression.
Wow, impressive then...are you going to do more tests today?
Quote from: Mako on Jul 18, 03:41 PM 2018
Wow, impressive then...are you going to do more tests today?
I would ,but have to take it easy on eyes after laser surgery.
Quote from: nottophammer on Jul 18, 02:12 PM 2018
Could be 8#'s as in 10 spins theres at least a 78% chance of a repeat
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So out the 120 sets 10/10 happened 26 times
120 sets and only 26 times there was 10 uniques in 10 spins?
This sounds like great news to me
Old news, old news. Passionruleta.
However, I just came back from my local casino. Played two machines, one is the spintec karma and the other I didn't manage to see it's brand, but it was a really old airball machine.
Using a bankroll of 100 euro, I've made around 760 euro profit today. In roughly 2 hours time total.
When playing those keep an eye on the hot numbers and play under the 15 numbers. If you don't have any profit under the 24 spins, you can add one or two units on max 5 numbers, so not all 15.
Take your time, keep calm and start slow after a while you will see roughly which numbers will fall. If you have difficulties with the wheel layout, use a tracker or pen and paper.
With airball machines, if you get more experienced you can get it down to roughly betting just 2 or 3 numbers, that's how accurate you can get.
That's awesome, crushed 'em Jun. Good haul. :love:
Good info too, cheers.
Thanks mako.
Also for dozens and columns lovers, do not play the dozens and columns on megastar interblock G3. It seems like that machine prevents players from winning playing the doz/Col. The ball drops on the G3's are the most unnatural I've ever seen. Hardly any scatter, and it can "float" around the rim of the wheel for longer periods of time. An another tip with the g3 :, it often gets stuck between two sectors. It can last up two 7 or 8 spins. Zigzagging or repeating.
Spintec machines and interblock G4 and above, play freely.
Quote from: junscissorhands on Jul 19, 06:51 PM 2018
Old news, old news. Passionruleta.
However, I just came back from my local casino. Played two machines, one is the spintec karma and the other I didn't manage to see it's brand, but it was a really old airball machine.
Using a bankroll of 100 euro, I've made around 760 euro profit today. In roughly 2 hours time total.
When playing those keep an eye on the hot numbers and play under the 15 numbers. If you don't have any profit under the 24 spins, you can add one or two units on max 5 numbers, so not all 15.
Take your time, keep calm and start slow after a while you will see roughly which numbers will fall. If you have difficulties with the wheel layout, use a tracker or pen and paper.
With airball machines, if you get more experienced you can get it down to roughly betting just 2 or 3 numbers, that's how accurate you can get.
If airball machines usually trying equalize by the end of the cycle.Why not to wait first half and try to make a profit in second half of the cycle?
EMOJI DECODED, LOOKS LIKE EVERY EMOJI HAS MEANING,
1.first devil smile;
after group 1 , group 3 comes
2nd.devil smile.
after group 1 , group 3 comes
similarly other emogi can be decoded and play like MODI.Goldmine.
Whistle emogi , is ready position for immediate below pattrens.
happy smile, because, same pattrens repeated(group5 then 8, and group 7 then 8). so looks very much sure, he figures out pattern, in groups and then bet on one group
Group 1 1,3,5,7,9
Group2 2,4,6,8,10
Group3 12,14,16,18
Group4 11,13,15,17,
Group5 19,21,23,25,27
Group6 20,22,24,26
Group7 30,32,34,36
Group8 29,31,33,35
7
3
5
1
1
1
3 devili smily
1
5
1
3 devil smily
8 pause
5
2
6
8
3
8
6
2
4 reading manual
3 whistle
4 reading manual
5
3 whistle
7
8
5
3 whistle
4 reading manual
3 whstle
5
8
1
6
2
5
8 hahahah
3
7
8 hahahha
1
7
5
3
7 love
4
7 love
7 love
6
6
7
8
how he played is whenever number from group 3 is landing, he noting after group 3 , two landing number groups(e.g 7 ,8 then 5,8 and below after 7 then 8 hits simlarly after 5 , 8 hits), that pattern, surprisingly repeated .Why he choose group 3 numbers in his gameplay , not able to get that, ..can any one figure it out, Group 3 selected as bases for patterns coming up, why?
Not sure if it means anything but notice all the attention is to the four number groups. Not the five number groups. If one of those four groups(3,4,6,7,8) hit twice within 8 spins. Play those four numbers for 8 spins. Notice he ignores groups 1,2 and 5 even though group 1 started hot.
i further check, 3rd group dropping within 6 spins, and he waited until after 3rd group two consecutive group landed, in this case, 7,8 landed(first group always, red and 2nd Black so left an right concept) then he played on those groups, just my thought on this pattern. he also mentioned in his post, use left more than right, so i guess, playing is on L and R , two consecutive groups.
...Again.... focus on "your own game"....don't confuse eachother, with random ideas....i said, you'll never find a "solution" to whatever you trying to "solve"? Create a system. Post it. Move on. Work on the next. Wake up people.... thank you..
It must have been written somewhere in these 15 pages, but again: the nrs belonging to a group are interestingly placed around the euro wheel...
I still think this topic is well worth the time looking into. Anyone who plays live wheels has seen how these groups of numbers cluster together. Just not sure exactly what would be a trigger. Play the last two groupings? If a group has hit twice play for a third hit? I am not sure. But if a dealer is hitting one side of the wheel, these groupings can be exploited.
Why do first tests always have to be so positive? :question:
So, somewhat inspired by the grouping of nrs here. It's a crescendo of 2 gaps alterning higher then lower.
First nr hits, it's 23.
Play 25
Play 25 21
25 21 27
25 21 27 19
25 21 27 19 29
25 21 27 19 29 17
...until a hit. Restart with the new hit nr.
If 33 hits.
Play 35
35 31
35 31 0
35 31 0 29
35 31 0 29 2
35 31 0 29 2 27
35 31 0 29 2 27 4
35 31 0 29 2 27 4 25...
No reason but the first trial seems promising... as usual!
Well, 505u in 505 spins...
I somewhat love/hate when it goes so fine cuz I'd rather not be deluded... false hopes!
Anyway, worth continuing.
Quote from: Bigbroben on Mar 01, 08:23 PM 2019
So, somewhat inspired by the grouping of nrs here. It's a crescendo of 2 gaps alterning higher then lower.
Might be more of a point if applied to real wheel. A unit every second nr, right left right left...
Quote from: Bigbroben on Mar 01, 08:59 PM 2019
Well, 505u in 505 spins...
I somewhat love/hate when it goes so fine cuz I'd rather not be deluded... false hopes!
Anyway, worth continuing.
You keep coming up with great ideas Ben! I’ll add this to my testing schedule 😊.
Always good to be inspired.
Yeah, thanks!
It might be luck, for sure, but there was no large drawdown (yet), and highest nrs played are 11 or 12. Hitrate is excellent, at least in this trial.
But i dont understand why, so I blame it on luck!
This is a pretty straight line...
1001 spins done.
This is intriguing...
Job's done for tonight.
Quote from: Bigbroben on Mar 01, 11:58 PM 2019
1001 spins done.
This is intriguing...
Job's done for tonight.
Looking good mate, nice one. Will look at this myself too
BBB
These are just the first few spins from table 3 yesterday. Am i doing it right? Cant believe the amount of times a number that would be due to be next in line would appear right before
Such as: bet 17,19,21
23 appears next, which is exactly what we were going to add to the next bet, if that makes sense. Anyway, tough session
25. Bet 27
2 23,27
18. 21,23,27
18. 21,23,27,29
17 19,21,23,27,29
13 19,21,23,27,29,31
4 17,19,21,23,27,29,31
33 17,19,21,23,27,29,31,33
3. 15,17,19,21,23,27,29,31,33
4 15,17,19,21,23,27,29,31,33,35
7. 13,15,17,19,21,23,25,27,29,31,33,35
8 13,15,17,19,21,23,25,27,29,31,33,35,0
11 11,13,15,17,19,21,23,25,27,29,31,33,35,0
22 11,13,15,17,19,21,23,25,27,29,31,33,35,0,2
19. Win!!
35 bet 0
33 33,0
5. 33,0,2
- - -
2 31,33,0,2
26 31,33,0,2,4
27. 29,31,33,0,2,4
6 29,31,33,0,2,4,6
14. 27,29,31,33,0,2,4,6
32. 27,29,31,33,0,2,4,6,8
20 25,27,29,31,33,0,2,4,6,8
23. ,25,27,29,31,33,0,2 4,6,8,10
35 23,25,27,29,31,33,0,2,4,6,8,10
19 23,25,27,29,31,33,0,2,4,6,8,10,12
30. 21,23,25,27,29,31,33,0,2,4,6,8,10 - -
4 win
20 bet 22
23. 18,22
24 18,22,24
0 16,18,22,24
34. 16,18,22,24,26
10 14,16,18,22,24,26
14. Win
9. Bet 11
24 7,11
17 7,11,13
- - -
8 5,7,11,13
21. 5,7,11,13,15
6 3,5,7,11,13,15
6 3,5,7,11,13,15,17
1. 1,3,5,7,11,13,15,17
27. 1,3,5,7,11,13,15,17,19
14. 36,1,3,5,7,11,13,15,17,19
34. 36,1,3,5,7,11,13,15,17,19,21
29 34,36,1,3,5,7,11,13,15,17,19,21
15 win
I guess that's right. This is the test I was running, yes. I noticed too the nr that was about to be placed lands right before. Maybe a hint to something?
I might test further today if I have time
Quote from: Bigbroben on Mar 02, 01:09 PM 2019
I guess that's right. This is the test I was running, yes. I noticed too the nr that was about to be placed lands right before. Maybe a hint to something?
I might test further today if I have time
Ben - I was looking forward to testing your system this morning and I saw some of you and Buffalo’s comments. I decided to try a few modifications.
It’s started out well. 40 spins and 228 profit, all flat bet.
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Splits?
Quote from: Bigbroben on Mar 02, 08:30 PM 2019
Splits?
Hi Ben - A very slight modification on what you came up with yesterday.
17 lands. Bet 18-19
3 lands. Bet 18-19 + 16-15
31 lands. Bet 18-19-20-21 + 16-15
11 lands. Bet 18-19-20-21 + 16-15-14-13 etc until a hit.
As you said, beginners luck maybe....
86 spins, 400 profit. All flat bet.
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Right on! Lets see if it holds.
Quote from: Bigbroben on Mar 02, 09:19 PM 2019
Right on! Lets see if it holds.
Sorry Guys, not holding too well....
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Time to review the modifications..... Demoralising to see it fall away so steadily.....
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Don't you hate it!
We are testing so it'S ok....
Quote from: Bigbroben on Mar 02, 10:42 PM 2019
Don't you hate it!
We are testing so it'S ok....
Thank God for testing....! Keep the good ideas coming through Ben.
I’m going to try a few tweaks here and there to see what happens. Cheers