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Title: Freddy1: An Odd or Even High & Low Plus Zero System
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Jun 16, 09:29 PM 2018
*looks good atm :)

Procedure: Note the newest High and Low Odd (if the
newest outcome is Odd) and vice-versa if the newest is Even.

Bet those respective High and Low Odds
or Evens and an Odd/Even on either side.

Repeat steps until in profit.

Example: 12,29,32 (newest spin-value)

Bet 10,12,14 & 30,32,34 & zero once:    1.) 1(x)

Bet 17,1,3 & 27,29,31 & zero....

Bankroll suggestion: 140 units
Title: Re: Freddy1: An Odd or Even High & Low Plus Zero System
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Jun 16, 09:50 PM 2018
It started out well :q  :q

--scrap--
Title: Re: Freddy1: An Odd or Even High & Low Plus Zero System
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Oct 02, 03:30 AM 2018
Toying with an idea (Freddy1 is dead btw)
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Note the newest spin value and its dozen. 
(this will be your playing area for the session)

Bet that natural double street once
(Natural doublestreets: L1-6, L7-12, L13-18, L19-24, L25-30, L31-36)

Anytime that dozen hits bet that doublestreet once.

Stop on a win or after six consecutive misses.

Bankroll suggestion: six units per session
Title: Re: Freddy1: An Odd or Even High & Low Plus Zero System
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Oct 02, 03:56 AM 2018
Test: Celtic Casino American Wheel-
Tuesday, October 2,2018 @ 2:14am CDT USA

#1 (newest spin-value)-First Dozen will be the betting area for the session.

Bet L1-6 once:    1.) 00(x)-1...25,34,29,1 (trigger)

Bet L1-6 once:    2.) 35(x)-1...30,29,27,22,14,8 (trigger)

Bet L7-12 once:    3.) 12(win)+5
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Test: Celtic Casino European Wheel-
Tuesday, October 2,2018 @ 2:32am CDT USA

#29 (newest spin-value)-Third dozen will be the playing area for the session

Bet L25-30 once:    1.) 4(x)-1...14,13,9,18,2,17,6,3,14,21,24,31 (trigger)

Bet L31-36 once:    2.) 4(x)-1...36 (trigger)

Bet L31-36 once:    3.) 30(x)-1 (trigger)

Bet L25-20 once:    4.) 29(win)+5
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Title: Re: Freddy1: An Odd or Even High & Low Plus Zero System
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Oct 04, 01:45 AM 2018
Still toying around with this idea :)

New trigger.  Track the last three dozen outcomes.

The dominant dozen (two of three hits) is the playing dozen.

Example: 21,5,3 (newest spin-value)-First Dozen is dominant
(First dozen is the playing area for the session)

Bet L1-6 once:      1.) 30(x)...0,14,23,9 (trigger)

Bet L7-12 once....
Title: Re: Freddy1: An Odd or Even High & Low Plus Zero System
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Oct 23, 01:26 PM 2018
Idea on natural lines :)

Natural lines:
L1-6, L7-12, L13-18, L19-24, L25-30, L31-36

When a high natural line repeats within three
spins bet that natural line for up to six spins.

Example: 21,3,23 (newest spin-value)

Bet L19-24 for up to six spins.  Stop on a win.
Title: Re: Freddy1: An Odd or Even High & Low Plus Zero System
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Oct 23, 11:06 PM 2018
Hey guys.  Un-natural High line seem to work :d

Un-natural High Lines: s19-21, s34-36: L22-27, L28-33

When two numbers show (of the last three outcomes)
in any of these, bet that unnatural line for up to six spins.

Example: 2,21,35 (trigger)

Bet s19-21, s34-36 for up to six spins.  Stop on a win.

Example two: 22,0,25 (trigger)

Bet L22-27....
Title: Re: Freddy1: An Odd or Even High & Low Plus Zero System
Post by: Blue_Angel on Oct 24, 01:30 AM 2018
Without any bad intention meant, but when I'm reading yours and Ignatus systems I cannot understand why such betting should win in general, what's the betting principle, what is the main idea??  :question:

Why for example red/odd numbers have better chance to win than black/even, why should we select those numbers instead of any other random selection of the same total of numbers?  :question:

Besides it is so pointless and misleading to bet max 10 spins, or even less, per time and when you have say 10 sessions by 10 bets each (100 bets) to declare that it is a winning system!  ::)
Is this a joke?  ???
Title: Re: Freddy1: An Odd or Even High & Low Plus Zero System
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Oct 25, 09:36 PM 2018
This is notepad Blue Angel.  Sometimes it helps me to think
to write down ideas.  Not meant to be taken too seriously.
Title: Re: Freddy1: An Odd or Even High & Low Plus Zero System
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Feb 08, 05:03 PM 2019
I'm going to figure out Karl (from YouTube) system(s).  Watch this space.
Title: Re: Freddy1: An Odd or Even High & Low Plus Zero System
Post by: buffalowizard on Feb 08, 05:07 PM 2019
Good luck Proof, I admire your rouletting detective abilities!
Title: Re: Freddy1: An Odd or Even High & Low Plus Zero System
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Feb 08, 10:28 PM 2019
 :thumbsup:
==============================
From what I can tell Karl bets six neighbors counterclockwise,
the last decision number and 10 numbers clockwise on RNG.
Title: Re: Freddy1: An Odd or Even High & Low Plus Zero System
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Feb 08, 10:40 PM 2019
Theory two: Karl bets two neighbors on either side of last decision number,
last decision number, counts 12 neighbors either side and bets five neighbors both sides respectively.
Title: Re: Freddy1: An Odd or Even High & Low Plus Zero System
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Feb 08, 10:53 PM 2019
Theory three: Karl counts four neighbors counterclockwise,
then bets the 16 consecutive neighbors counterclockwise.

Moreover Karl seems to play the three theories
in that order, then goes back to the first theory.
Title: Re: Freddy1: An Odd or Even High & Low Plus Zero System
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Feb 08, 11:10 PM 2019
Karl places an extra chip on already
hit numbers among the neighbors.
Title: Re: Freddy1: An Odd or Even High & Low Plus Zero System
Post by: Firefox on Feb 09, 02:34 AM 2019
I counted his bets on many of his games, and he often bets on 18 numbers which gives him about a 50/50 chance of winning.  The sectors played are sometimes offset, sometimes opposite. This seems to depend on "following the roulette" to use his phrase which seems to mean where the numbers were hitting on the previous few spins. He also sometimes appears to revert to his previous strategies of betting consecutive numbers eg 11,12,13 or numbers which are powers /multiples of  3 or 2  eg 3,9,27 or 9,18,27   or 10,20,30. That last bit could be wrong just based on observation though, but he seems to have an affinity for certain patterns.

As he is effectively betting an even chance he uses a mild positive progression similar in effect to the reverse labourchere. Occasionly he reverts to a really agressive positive progression to double or triple his money. Similar to rev lab when you just have a few large numbers left.

Although he claims a system, his selections are effectively random, but as he is betting even chances, he has a fair crack to pull off two or three big bets in a row using money he has won from the house.

The downside is large numbers of losses of his original stake quickly. These are the games we don't see. He freely admits they occur and he doesn't post them. However, he says they are just a few. I think there are rather more than he admits.
Title: Re: Freddy1: An Odd or Even High & Low Plus Zero System
Post by: Firefox on Feb 09, 05:33 AM 2019
Saw his win from 10  to 2600 today.

He often misses a spin or two when he fails, presumably to see where the ball goes next. He did fail a fair few times, but hit the big ones when he had 30 or 40 out on some numbers.

So hats off to him, he hit when he bet big. I don't think it's something you can teach in a system though. It appears just intuiton when to bet big and when to top up certain numbers.

A combination of good money management,  positive progression, evenish chance odds, offsets and opposites, lucky numbers, and very selective on the games he shows.

I like the aspects of positive progression, evenish odds, and money management. Not sure about the rest!
Title: Re: Freddy1: An Odd or Even High & Low Plus Zero System
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Feb 16, 03:54 AM 2019
Good luck to Karl and his system.  :thumbsup:
==============================
I've been working on this one for a
while and think I have something.


Procedure: Track 24 spins.  Look for the first street to repeat (should occur
around spin five or so).  After 24 spins bet that street for up to 12 spins. 

Stop on a win or after 12 consecutive misses.

Example: 8,8,*23,13,20,4,15,20,31,11,14,6,24,
18,32,21,21,8,35,13,36,8,29,9 (24 spins collected)

Bet s7-9 for up to 12 spins:    1.) 4(x)-1               2.) 1(x)-1

3.) 14(x)-1               4.) 28(x)-1               5.) 18(x)-1

6.) 11(x)-1               7.) 25(x)-1               8.) 22(x)-1

9.) 9(win)+11
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Title: Re: Freddy1: An Odd or Even High & Low Plus Zero System
Post by: Firefox on Feb 16, 06:35 PM 2019
Karl has changed his tune a bit recently. Money up front, system wont win for a few weeks till "you get the hang of it" etc, etc.

I think he's preparing to cash in his chips and leave the casino ;)
Title: Re: Freddy1: An Odd or Even High & Low Plus Zero System
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Feb 17, 11:38 AM 2019
Oh well  :lol:
==============================
I have been working on a
15-neighbor sector system.  Here goes
:

Bankroll suggestion: 180 total units

Note the newest outcome.  Bet that
number and 14 clockwise neighbors once. 

Repeat steps with each new outcome.  Stop when in profit.

Example: #0 (newest spin-value)-European Wheel

Bet 0,32,15,19,4,21,2,25,17,34,6,27,13,36,11 once

1.) 22(x)-15

Bet 22,18,29,7,28,12,35,3,26,0,32,15,19,4,21....
Title: Re: Freddy1: An Odd or Even High & Low Plus Zero System
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Feb 22, 02:00 AM 2019
Quote from: Proofreaders2000 on Feb 16, 03:54 AM 2019
I've been working on this one for a
while and think I have something.


Procedure: Track 24 spins.  Look for the first street to repeat (should occur
around spin five or so).  After 24 spins bet that street for up to 12 spins. 

Stop on a win or after 12 consecutive misses.

Example: 8,8,*23,13,20,4,15,20,31,11,14,6,24,
18,32,21,21,8,35,13,36,8,29,9 (24 spins collected)

Bet s7-9 for up to 12 spins:    1.) 4(x)-1               2.) 1(x)-1

3.) 14(x)-1               4.) 28(x)-1               5.) 18(x)-1

6.) 11(x)-1               7.) 25(x)-1               8.) 22(x)-1

9.) 9(win)+11
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Nice win at Liberty Slots RNG Real Money
Title: Re: Freddy1: An Odd or Even High & Low Plus Zero System
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Feb 23, 06:45 AM 2019
Jotting down RNG Real Money notes
==============================
*Ideally best to play B&M
games, second best live games online

*If you must play RNG online games...

Best to play one session every two
weeks (or longer per online casino)

Very good chance of winning if a
brand new system is played each time.

Five minute or less sessions.

Always flat-bet bet selections
Title: Re: Freddy1: An Odd or Even High & Low Plus Zero System
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Feb 25, 07:29 AM 2019
---*System Preparation for RNG Real Money Play*---

Before you play a system on RNG Real Money
test it on a static generator like Random.org

If it wins four of five sessions (or better)
It *should* be ok for one RNG Real money session.

[Remember to take a two-week (or more)
break bt RNG Real Money sessions per casino]
Title: Re: Freddy1: An Odd or Even High & Low Plus Zero System
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Feb 27, 03:32 PM 2019
Jotting down my idea
==============================
Consider the last 12 outcomes.  Bet the
newest repeater and one number numerically higher. 

Also bet the newest outcome (not part of the
repeater) and the number numerically higher.

Repeat steps with the newest outcome.
Stop on a win or after none consecutive misses.

Example:
12,30,6,0,34,9,10,6,28,17,25,2 (newest spin-value)

Bet 6,7 & 2,3 once:    1.) 15(x)-4

Bet 6,7 & 15,16....
Title: Re: Freddy1: An Odd or Even High & Low Plus Zero System
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Feb 27, 08:47 PM 2019
Another idea:

Note the newest spin value.  (The last decision and the
next numerically higher numbers are the center of the bet.)

Bet the two numbers ahead and
behind those two center numbers once.

Repeat steps with each new spin-value. 
Stop on a win or after four consecutive misses.

Example:
#10 (newest spin-value).  #10 & #11 is the core of the bet.

Bet 8,9,10,11,12,13 once.
Title: Re: Freddy1: An Odd or Even High & Low Plus Zero System
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Feb 27, 10:36 PM 2019
New idea :)
==============================
Note thew newest two unique outcomes. 

Bet the two descending numbers once. 
Repeat steps with each new spin value. 

Stop on a win or after 18 consecutive misses.

Example: 23,4 (newest spin-value)

Bet 22,3 once:    1.) 0(x)-2

Bet 3,36 once....
Title: Re: Freddy1: An Odd or Even High & Low Plus Zero System
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Feb 27, 10:47 PM 2019
Quote from: Proofreaders2000 on Feb 16, 03:54 AM 2019
I've been working on this one for a
while and think I have something.


Procedure: Track 24 spins.  Look for the first street to repeat (should occur
around spin five or so).  After 24 spins bet that street for up to 12 spins. 

Stop on a win or after 12 consecutive misses.

Example: 8,8,*23,13,20,4,15,20,31,11,14,6,24,
18,32,21,21,8,35,13,36,8,29,9 (24 spins collected)

Bet s7-9 for up to 12 spins:    1.) 4(x)-1               2.) 1(x)-1

3.) 14(x)-1               4.) 28(x)-1               5.) 18(x)-1

6.) 11(x)-1               7.) 25(x)-1               8.) 22(x)-1

9.) 9(win)+11
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Small tweak on this one. (v1.1)
==============================
Track 24 spins. Look for the first single to repeat. 
After 24 spins bet that single's street for up to 12 spins.

Title: Re: Freddy1: An Odd or Even High & Low Plus Zero System
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Feb 28, 12:04 AM 2019
Quote from: Proofreaders2000 on Feb 27, 08:47 PM 2019
Another idea:

Note the newest spin value.  (The last decision and the
next numerically higher numbers are the center of the bet.)

Bet the two numbers ahead and
behind those two center numbers once.

Repeat steps with each new spin-value. 
Stop on a win or after six consecutive misses.

Example:
#10 (newest spin-value).  #10 & #11 is the core of the bet.

Bet 8,9,10,11,12,13 once:    1.) 0(x)-6

Bet 35,36,0,1,2,3....
Title: Re: Freddy1: An Odd or Even High & Low Plus Zero System
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Feb 28, 01:43 AM 2019
Quote from: Proofreaders2000 on Feb 27, 03:32 PM 2019
Jotting down my idea
==============================
Consider the last 12 outcomes.  Bet the
newest repeater and one number numerically higher. 

Also bet the newest outcome (not part of the
repeater) and the number numerically higher.

Repeat steps with the newest outcome.
Stop on a win or after none consecutive misses.

Example:
12,30,6,0,34,9,10,6,28,17,25,2 (newest spin-value)

Bet 6,7 & 2,3 once:    1.) 15(x)-4

Bet 6,7 & 15,16....

Tweak on this one:

Consider the last 12 outcomes.

Bet the newest repeat single, the newest outcome
and the newest outcome's numerically higher number once.


(three numbers in play). 

*Play the same repeat number continuously, but
change the newest outcome from one spin to the next.

Stop on a win or after 12 consecutive misses.

Example: 12,30,15,0,14,2,8,15,29,7,34,19 (newest spin-value)

Bet 15,19,20:    1.) 25(x)-3

Bet 15,25,26:    2.) 36(x)-3

Bet 15,36,0....

Title: Re: Freddy1: An Odd or Even High & Low Plus Zero System
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Feb 28, 08:41 AM 2019
New idea :)
==============================
Procedure: Consider the last three outcomes. 

Bet the last decision, the number numerically less and the number
numerically less on the second and third newest outcomes once.

Repeat steps with each new spin-value. 
Stop on a win or after nine consecutive misses.

Example: 5,31,13 (newest spin-value)

Bet 13,12,30,4 once:    1.) 0(x)-4

Bet 0,36,12,30....
Title: Re: Freddy1: An Odd or Even High & Low Plus Zero System
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Mar 03, 10:00 PM 2019
New idea :)
==============================
Note the newest two dozen outcomes.  Bet those two numbers
and a number numerically higher and lower respectively once.

Repeat steps with each new spin value. 
Stop on a win or after six consecutive misses.

*Zero counts as first dozen.
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Example: 12,31 (newest spin-value)

Bet 11,12,13 & 30,31,32 once:    1.) 15(x)-6

Bet 30,31,32 & 14,15,16....
Title: Re: Freddy1: An Odd or Even High & Low Plus Zero System
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Mar 03, 11:18 PM 2019
Alright here's another idea :)
==============================
Track the last six unique singles.  Bet one
number numerically higher for all six respectively.

Change the bet with each new spin-value if miss.

Stop on a win or after six consecutive misses.

Example: 12,3,7,29,36,5 (newest spin-value)

Bet 13,4,8,30,0,6 once:    1.) 20(x)-6

Bet 4,8,30,0,6,21 once....
Title: Re: Freddy1: An Odd or Even High & Low Plus Zero System
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Mar 03, 11:30 PM 2019
Test: Dublinbet European Wheel #1-
Sunday, March 3,2019 @ 10:12pm CST USA

...28,7,20,6,18,14,17,14 (newest spin-value)

Newest six unique singles: 28,7,20,6,18,17

Bet 29,8,21,7,19,18 once:      1.) 8(win)+30
==============================
Test: Intertops Red Casino American Wheel-
Sunday, March 3,2019 @ 10:23pm CST USA

...30,0,22,11,9,15 (newest spin-value)

Bet 31,1,23,12,10,16 once:    1.) 17(x)-6

Bet 1,23,12,10,16,18 once:    2.) 23(win)+30
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Title: Re: Freddy1: An Odd or Even High & Low Plus Zero System
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Mar 03, 11:34 PM 2019
I would love, love, love to find a way to play
neighbor sectors without waiting 50+ spins for a bias.
Title: Re: Freddy1: An Odd or Even High & Low Plus Zero System
Post by: Steve on Mar 04, 03:12 AM 2019
You can do that with vb even ds in some cases.
Title: Re: Freddy1: An Odd or Even High & Low Plus Zero System
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Mar 05, 11:51 AM 2019
Quote from: Proofreaders2000 on Mar 03, 11:18 PM 2019
Alright here's another idea :)
==============================
Track the last six unique singles.  Bet one
number numerically higher for all six respectively.

Change the bet with each new spin-value if miss.

Stop on a win or after six consecutive misses.

Example: 12,3,7,29,36,5 (newest spin-value)

Bet 13,4,8,30,0,6 once:    1.) 20(x)-6

Bet 4,8,30,0,6,21 once....

Nice win at Lincoln Casino RNG Real Money
Title: Re: Freddy1: An Odd or Even High & Low Plus Zero System
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Mar 05, 10:00 PM 2019
-----*The "Forever Numbers" Theory*-----

(Doing a little brainstorming here)

The premise is the same number (in a way)
shows up through its even-chance attributes.

How to exploit. (Tentative system)

...12, 19, 4, 24,16, 34 (newest spin-value is Red, Even, and High)

So, the bet would be last decision #34, the
newest Red, the newest Even, and the newest High

Bet 34, 16 (Red), 24 (High), and #4 (Even) once: 
#11(x)-Black, Odd, Low

The new bet would then be last decision #11,
the newest Black, the newest Even, and the newest Low

Bet 11, 24 (Black), 4 (Low), and #19 (Odd)....

Stop on a win or after nine consecutive misses.
Title: Re: Freddy1: An Odd or Even High & Low Plus Zero System
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Mar 05, 10:30 PM 2019
Quick correction

Quote from: Proofreaders2000 on Mar 05, 10:00 PM 2019
-----*The "Forever Numbers" Theory*-----

(Doing a little brainstorming here)

The premise is the same number (in a way)
shows up through its even-chance attributes.

How to exploit. (Tentative system)

...12, 19, 4, 24,16, 34 (newest spin-value is Red, Even, and High)

So, the bet would be last decision #34, the
newest Red, the newest Even, and the newest High

Bet 34, 16 (Red), 24 (High), and #4 (Even) once: 
#11(x)-Black, Odd, Low

The new bet would then be last decision #11,
the newest Black, the newest Odd, and the newest Low

Bet 11, 24 (Black), 4 (Low), and #19 (Odd)....

Stop on a win or after nine consecutive misses.
Title: Re: Freddy1: An Odd or Even High & Low Plus Zero System
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Mar 05, 10:51 PM 2019
Test: Forever Numbers @ Dublinbet European
Wheel #1-Tuesday, March 5,2019 @ 9:31pm CST USA

...19, 2, 22, 2, 30, 9, 14 (newest spin-value)

Bet 14, 9 (Red), 30 (Even), 2 (Low):          1.) 1(x)-4

Bet 1, 14 (Red), 9 (Odd), 2 (Low):             2.) 26(x)-4

Bet 26, 2 (Black), 14 (Even), 30 (High):    3.) 7(x)-4

Bet 7, 1 (Red), 9 (Odd), 14 (Low):             4.) 36(x)-4

Bet 36, 7 (Red), 26 (Even), 30 (High):       5.) 13(x)-4

Bet 13, 26 (Black), 7 (Odd), 1 (Low):         6.) 1 (win)+32
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Title: Re: Freddy1: An Odd or Even High & Low Plus Zero System
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Mar 05, 10:59 PM 2019
I hope this thread helps someone improve their game.

Also (utmost importance) I would like to encourage
all of you to make Jesus Christ you Lord and Savior.

(If I don't accomplish anything else here)
Title: Re: Freddy1: An Odd or Even High & Low Plus Zero System
Post by: Bigbroben on Mar 06, 02:46 AM 2019
May the Force be with you.
Title: Re: Freddy1: An Odd or Even High & Low Plus Zero System
Post by: Firefox on Mar 06, 02:57 AM 2019
You're  certainly never short of new ideas!

What Steve says about VB and DS is spot on. But even with those you have to wait for the right conditions. Sometimes quite a while!

If I don't get the right conditions I don't play. I actually hate gambling. I only play if I think I have an edge. For example roulette, rubber bridge or poker or chess. And I'm much better at bridge or chess than poker. I'd only play poker against complete fish!
Title: Re: Freddy1: An Odd or Even High & Low Plus Zero System
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Mar 06, 06:52 AM 2019
@Bigbroben: if you knew what God has done for me, in terms of overcoming
Autism, and a hereditary family illness you would appreciate having Faith like I do.
==============================
@Firefox: Like you I hate gambling.  I do however like
problem solving.  (The 'systems' are an attempt to do so.)

As for vb I don't have access to casinos that allow bets after ball release.
My preference would be to bet neighbor sectors.  Still looking.

I could use some chess advice :)
Title: Re: Freddy1: An Odd or Even High & Low Plus Zero System
Post by: Let Me Win on Mar 06, 08:54 AM 2019
Let's say that the consensus is that our species, being the higher primates, Homo Sapiens, has been on the planet for at least 100,000 years, maybe more. Francis Collins says maybe 100,000. Richard Dawkins thinks maybe a quarter-of-a-million. I'll take 100,000. In order to be a Christian, you have to believe that for 98,000 years, our species suffered and died, most of its children dying in childbirth, most other people having a life expectancy of about 25 years, dying of their teeth. Famine, struggle, bitterness, war, suffering, misery, all of that for 98,000 years.

Heaven watches this with complete indifference. And then 2000 years ago, thinks 'That's enough of that. It's time to intervene,' and the best way to do this would be by condemning someone to a human sacrifice somewhere in the less literate parts of the Middle East. Don't lets appeal to the Chinese, for example, where people can read and study evidence and have a civilization. Let's go to the desert and have another revelation there. This is nonsense. It can't be believed by a thinking person.

Why am I glad this is the case? To get to the point of the wrongness of Christianity, because I think the teachings of Christianity are immoral. The central one is the most immoral of all, and that is the one of vicarious redemption. You can throw your sins onto somebody else, vulgarly known as scapegoating. In fact, originating as scapegoating in the same area, the same desert. I can pay your debt if I love you. I can serve your term in prison if I love you very much. I can volunteer to do that. I can't take your sins away, because I can't abolish your responsibility, and I shouldn't offer to do so. Your responsibility has to stay with you. There's no vicarious redemption. There very probably, in fact, is no redemption at all. It's just a part of wish-thinking, and I don't think wish-thinking is good for people either.

And that brings me to the final objection - I'll condense it,  - which is, this is a totalitarian system. If there was a God who could do these things and demand these things of us, and he was eternal and unchanging, we'd be living under a dictatorship from which there is no appeal, and one that can never change and one that knows our thoughts and can convict us of thought crime, and condemn us to eternal punishment for actions that we are condemned in advance to be taking. I could say, it's an excellent thing that we have absolutely no reason to believe any of it to be true.
Title: Re: Freddy1: An Odd or Even High & Low Plus Zero System
Post by: Firefox on Mar 06, 09:20 AM 2019
Oh no... religion!

For me personal faith in whoever or whatever or nothing is great.

Organised "religion" is a cancer of mankind that has been used for little more than power, money, exploitation, war and death.

Ok, I'll shut up now!

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@Proofreaders. Shame about the Casinos for you. I haven't been so much in recent years due to work, but I've got more time now, and ready to really improve what I know even more. The quest for me is getting a better edge, and the intellectual endeavour to do so. I'm not even set on breaking the bank, strange though that may seem.

Money is the root of evil , and not a path to contentment, especially excess amounts. Hope you can find what you're looking for!
Title: Re: Freddy1: An Odd or Even High & Low Plus Zero System
Post by: Bigbroben on Mar 06, 09:58 AM 2019
I think people are mislead by believing the God in the old testament is the same as in the new one.

The hebrew's god was a jealous warmongering physical entity with whom you could walk and follow the chariot's light in the sky, talk, be lightning-stricken if behavior was bad.  Genesis is a short story of a longer one described in the sumerian tablets, where the gods were pretty much ETs.

New testament's god, more often refered to as Father, aligns more to the  buddhist philosophy of peace, love, good vibes. 
Religion tends to blend these two concepts into one and scare the shit out of people to dominate.

Proof, do  not underestimate ones inner power or will to ram through difficulties.  Inner fire, Godliness, Soul, you name it.  It's within you already.
Title: Re: Freddy1: An Odd or Even High & Low Plus Zero System
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Mar 06, 10:21 AM 2019
I never professed to be good at religion. 
All I know is "I was blind, and now I see".

                                -and-

God will send you who or what you need to progress.
Example: Deficient in math, He sends Firefox or Winkel.

English/diction deficient, He sends an English teacher.
(which was my situation awhile back.)

You don't have to necessarily think well, just believe well.
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Ok, I'll shut up now-Firefox

On the contrary I welcome your comments  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Freddy1: An Odd or Even High & Low Plus Zero System
Post by: Let Me Win on Mar 06, 12:58 PM 2019
Religion is a totalitarian belief. It is the wish to be a slave. It is the desire that there be an unalterable, unchallengeable, tyrannical authority who can convict you of thought crime while you are asleep, who can subject you to total surveillance around the clock every waking and sleeping minute of your life, before you're born and, even worse and where the real fun begins, after you're dead. A celestial North Korea. Who wants this to be true?

It is the most revolting and utter and absolute and heartless tyranny the human species has ever evolved. But at least you can fking die and leave North Korea!

Does the Bible or the Quran offer you that choice?
Title: Re: Freddy1: An Odd or Even High & Low Plus Zero System
Post by: Bigbroben on Mar 06, 02:01 PM 2019
Quote from: Let Me Win on Mar 06, 12:58 PM 2019

Does the Bible or the Quran offer you that choice?

Yes they do.  It's the application that is faulty.  The claim of representing some celestial authority under cover of scripts generally accepted as holy is wrong.
Title: Re: Freddy1: An Odd or Even High & Low Plus Zero System
Post by: blueman on Mar 06, 02:39 PM 2019
Quote from: Let Me Win on Mar 06, 12:58 PM 2019
Religion is a totalitarian belief. It is the wish to be a slave. It is the desire that there be an unalterable, unchallengeable, tyrannical authority who can convict you of thought crime while you are asleep, who can subject you to total surveillance around the clock every waking and sleeping minute of your life, before you're born and, even worse and where the real fun begins, after you're dead. A celestial North Korea. Who wants this to be true?

It is the most revolting and utter and absolute and heartless tyranny the human species has ever evolved. But at least you can fking die and leave North Korea!

Does the Bible or the Quran offer you that choice?

Bravo, absolutely right! Religions cause most of the conflict in the world.
Title: Re: Freddy1: An Odd or Even High & Low Plus Zero System
Post by: Andre Chass on Mar 06, 02:56 PM 2019
I have no religion. but Im a Buddhism enthusiastic.

link:s://youtu.be/hhjOnYbKJJw
Title: Re: Freddy1: An Odd or Even High & Low Plus Zero System
Post by: Bigbroben on Mar 06, 04:06 PM 2019
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