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Explanation:

Option 1 spins are from real wheels uploaded by my players. I use only reputable profiles with 300+ spins each, so the spins are consecutive.

Option 2 spins are from random.org

Option 3 spins are from a reasonably high quality PRNG.

 If the general quotes Random.org who are we to disagree.
Turner gives R.org, but it'll make no difference, i'll say no more

Sudoku should i put muttley up? :lol:

Geez you talk shit Notto.

Ok looks clear enough, I'll start harvesting data from random.org. I think there's a maximum of 100k spins per day per ip, so i'll use a few proxies.

I'll let everyone know when we are using random.org spins.

Looks like 10k is the most you can do at once, not sure on daily limits with the free service.
link:s://:.random.org/integers/

But still, how many spins would you need ?
What's your delay between spins and consider that if it were running 24 hours per day how many spins you would need. I'm sure there's plenty of time without any users playing - but even if there were - 10,000 spins is more than enough

Random.org spins are now being used.

The password for the previous spin file, so anyone can check the numbers are real and fair, is:
W#$Faeg#!!@#53@32sgrdr

The zipped spin file for the current spins is attached. I'll provide the password later when it is done.

No 10,000 spins is not enough to be assured the spin file doesnt repeat. I always use much more.

The generation url I'm using is link:s://:.random.org/integers/?num=10000&min=0&max=36&col=1&base=10&format=html&rnd=new

I change ip and get another 100,000 per day per ip. It's more than enough.

Cheers...

What "professionals" play RNG anyway? All play at Live-tables? isn't this a bad idea ? i think so, ...:S

who's calling steve to use RNG isn't aware of the fact that RNG is not beatable!

ONLY HACKERS CAN BEAT IT!

Quote from: ignatus on Jun 28, 12:05 PM 2018
What "professionals" play RNG anyway? All play at Live-tables? isn't this a bad idea ? i think so, ...:S

Yes, I understand your point. I only play roulette at actual casinos with actual wheels. With RNG, the system may adjust the winning numbers according to the bets that have have been placed. So if you are gambling with actual money, playing on RNG tables is a risky idea. Just my two cents on this issue.

I agree using rng is not a good thing, but we'll just use what people want. I think turbos rubbish about only being able to beat rng/random was actually believed by some people.

This RNG spin seems to be good. Just did a test account playing a basic system like martingale and got wiped out.

Quote from: Steve on Jun 28, 04:55 PM 2018I think turbos rubbish about only being able to beat rng/random was actually believed by some people.

I can beat RNG and I can beat any roulette wheel, so long as they are both putting out random numbers.
Now, stitching together sets of spins from a wheel/wheels that you don't even know are accurate, in a way that makes absurd things possible isn't very realistic.
Like I said - take a wheel that ended it's listing with 10 repeats on dozen 1 (not crazy) and now splice onto that another listing where dozen 1 shows 10 times in a row (not crazy) makes a list of number with 20 repeats in a dozen (not going to happen).
How can you put together spins from various wheels, not know the accuracy and then claim beating this is the only proof you'll accept ?  lol.
Anyway, it doesn't matter. If I every play there I'll use something good but not a HG for sure.

Quote from: TurboGenius on Jun 28, 06:04 PM 2018I can beat RNG and I can beat any roulette wheel, so long as they are both putting out random numbers.

No, you cant because it's random.

Quote from: TurboGenius on Jun 28, 06:04 PM 2018Anyway, it doesn't matter. If I every play there I'll use something good but not a HG for sure.

Random is random is random. Why would it matter to you?

I'm sure if I checked the log files and took the time to see what you did, I would find the same system you've described. Without looking you've already given enough information to know.

I dont buy that you played thousands of spins trying to rank high on MPR, and deliberately didnt use your HG. Then when your wins turned to losses, you left for parx and RS to apply your HG, where sessions are video recorded. Good way to hide your secret HG  :lol:

Yes we keep going in circles, because you're in a corner.

Quote from: Steve on Jun 28, 09:18 PM 2018Yes we keep going in circles, because you're in a corner.

The invisible corner that you created in your own mind. lol
I keep winning. We do keep going in circles though - I'll break the cycle for you.
Let's just agree that I'll keep winning and you keep not believing it's possible.
There. Problem solved.

Anyone can win play money. I thought we discussed this.

We both know what happens in realistic conditions, like MPR.

Turbo, is it a concidence you played thousands of spins on mpr, but left when your account turned to overall loss?

Why would play on rs where your sessions are video recorded if you wanted to keep your system more secret? Isnt mpr more private since it doesnt video record your session?

Its ok turbo, you dont need to answer. We dont need more evasive garbage.

Quote from: Steve on Jun 29, 08:09 AM 2018Anyone can win play money. I thought we discussed this.
We both know what happens in realistic conditions, like MPR.

Realistic conditions are IN a casino - that's where I'm winning.
You tend to ignore this every time I mention it, probably because it doesn't fit
your view.
Game sites are great for testing and showing that something can work.
I've had plenty of contact with RS's admin and I'm not concerned at all about
my play being logged. Parx logs every spin as well and every bet placement....again, not concerned. I've emailed them back and forth plenty of times now.
I also worked my ass off to find a problem in one of the games (which is now offline until fixed). See ? Once in a while a bug appears... which happens even in a real casino. (It's not continuous though after years)
Since you seem to reject my actual winnings in AC and Parx in PA, GN online - and only focus on the sites I use to display what's possible, I guess there's nothing else I can do.
I'm not playing on MPR or if I do, I'll use something very good. I'm not laying it out like that to be reverse engineered from the data (someone's already busy doing that and trying to sell it I see...laughable). And further information, like any good AP - my bets aren't that obvious at Parx Online and RS. I make losing bets on purpose, I don't keep to "just" playing a HG but mix it up with other methods. Nothing is obvious where they (or anyone) could look at it and figure it out right away.

Quote from: TurboGenius on Jun 29, 04:49 PM 2018
Realistic conditions are IN a casino - that's where I'm winning.

Is that why you spend so much time winning play money to showcase your system in forums?

Quote from: TurboGenius on Jun 29, 04:49 PM 2018You tend to ignore this every time I mention it, probably because it doesn't fit
your view.

Because considering all reason and information,  you'd lose in realistic conditions, like mpr. But sure you could be winning $100 every now and then. Any system can but eventually fails. Mpr is a good example.

But I'd like to see you win hundreds if thousands or millions like parx. If you could do it,  you would be doing it, right?

You already spelled out your system and working principles. They don't work. Its not an opinion. The principles are well tested.

Quote from: Steve on Jun 29, 05:33 PM 2018But I'd like to see you win hundreds if thousands or millions like parx. If you could do it,  you would be doing it, right?

I'm on my way...
I can't use the $100.00 min bet in a casino like they do on the simulators.
That means making it to the same balance will take much longer, which is fine.
I'm not motivated to win a million, and it's not proof of something working -
as you'll point out, I wouldn't have played enough spins.
So you can defeat/discount anything I say - therefore there's no use in me
trying to prove it to you. Others get it though, or the concepts and the key elements, etc.

I never said winning a million in real money is proof of nothing. Play money winnings is not proof, especially on a clearly unrealistic game, and you fight so hard convincing people its realistic proof of your hg.

Youre going to be “one your way” to making millions for quite “some time”.

Quote from: Steve on Jun 29, 06:18 PM 2018Youre going to be “one your way” to making millions for quite “some time”.

Yes, it will take a while to increase unit size and bankroll increases.
That's the smart way to do it.
It's not fast enough ? Now I'm being timed as proof ?  Just kidding,
have a nice weekend.

If your system worked, you'd already be there.

Your circus is explained here:
link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=18348.msg202866#msg202866

Its enough for any intelligent person to understand the charade.