Double Attack© - Baccarat Strategy
After several attempts to win playing baccarat and losing money I decided to stop playing and start studying the game.
I spent several hours a day for months studying the game and learning to read the shoes until I could create this strategy.
Thousands of shoes were studied and tested. Dozens of sessions were played with real money without loss. The strategy never failed.
You can recover your investment playing only a few sessions.
You can play as many sessions as you want. It depends on how much time you have available to play and your bankroll.
For the strategy to be successful, you will need to use a Trigger and a Short Progression. In all my sessions I never needed to go to the fifth step of the progression and rarely had to go to the fourth step.
I will give you several examples of how to use the strategy Double Attack© showing images of some real bets that have already been played.
No mislead, no scam.
I will send to you a 6 page doc file.
This strategy costs 75 â,¬
Bankroll suggestion: 15 units
PayPal for payment: doubleattack.strategy@gmail.com
Frequently Asked Questions:
Why is he selling a winning strategy? If it's a winning strategy he doens't need to sell it.
R: I'm selling the strategy to help people to beat the casinos.
But why you're selling it and not sharing it?
R: I like that my work is valued and prestigious. I worked hard to create an effective strategy. I think whatever work you do, you have to be rewarded for your effort.
Feel free to ask any question.
Please be polite.
This is not the first time you want to sell baccarat systems!
I personally believe that this not something I can rely on, if your system can win, you don’t need to sell it !
I hope I was polite to you !
Andre always does exhaustive testing, and has played literally thousands of shoes in his Baccarat career, in my opinion he's a strong authority on the game.
Looking forward to seeing Double Attack in action as people get hold of it. :thumbsup:
Omg is this guy serious ? I dont feel like being polite but i'll try to keep it calm....
Few facts about this gambling wonder...when he first came to this forum he knew nothing about roulette...And for sure nothing about baccarat. That being said...Few months later he claimed to study the game of roulette for years , many hours a day. Still he asked stupid questions about the game. And then....baaaaaam he have the hg. And baaaaam one week later another hg....And baaaaaam the same week a third hg..... with his big mouth he started to make problem . Some time later he came clean that he failed. And start say sorry.....
Now the baccarat story...after few months he got it (again)...oooh and asking money for it.....
I cant say nothing about his personal life or i get banned but to all readers.... please dont give this guy even 1$ . He needs the money ....
DONT BELIEVE THIS GUY AND DONT GIVE HIM MONEY !!!!
Yes André you can go cry and report to moderator but....only the truth here
Quote from: Roulettebeater on Jul 21, 02:31 PM 2018
I personally believe that this not something I can rely on, if your system can win, you don’t need to sell it !
I'll send you the strategy for free and you can get your own conclusions.
Quote from: Andre Chass on Jul 21, 02:41 PM 2018
I'll send you the strategy for free and you can get your own conclusions.
That would be great !
I will be thankful to you !
Quote from: Andre Chass on Jul 21, 02:41 PM 2018
I'll send you the strategy for free and you can get your own conclusions.
Nice Andre, perfect way to handle someone with doubt, other system sellers should learn from this example.
Give a few away in exchange for honest reviews, and if it's legitimate it will fly.
Hi Andre,
as you know, I'm ready to try hit!
Lets go ;)
Quote from: Mako on Jul 21, 02:39 PM 2018
Andre always does exhaustive testing, and has played literally thousands of shoes in his Baccarat career, in my opinion he's a strong authority on the game.
Looking forward to seeing Double Attack in action as people get hold of it. :thumbsup:
Thank you
Quote from: ahlidap on Jul 21, 02:50 PM 2018
Hi Andre,
as you know, I'm ready to try hit!
Lets go ;)
Ok
Hi Andre
What i like about the work of Andre is that he is always serious and he is someone who are making a living with baccarat , you showed us the success of Pattern attack in 20 days , you have made 1200.00 dollars easily and safely , that impressed me.
as i said Andre i want to try it :) thanks
Cheers
I'm getting many messages. I will answer within the possible
Quote from: AndyCasinoK on Jul 21, 03:24 PM 2018
Hi Andre
What i like about the work of Andre is that he is always serious and he is someone who are making a living with baccarat , you showed us the success of Pattern attack in 20 days , you have made 1200.00 dollars easily and safely , that impressed me.
as i said Andre i want to try it :) thanks
Cheers
Thanks
PM
Andre
Thx for your pm, I didn’t see any system in the message, you asked me to contact you per email, but you forgot to mention it !
Thx
Quote from: Roulettebeater on Jul 21, 03:38 PM 2018
Andre
Thx for your pm, I didn’t see any system in the message, you asked me to contact you per email, but you forgot to mention it !
Thx
Please read the thread and you will find my email
Hi Andre, by never lost do you mean never gone through the 15 unit suggested bankroll? And approx. how many hands is an average session? One more question if I may - do we have to wait ages for a trigger?
Quote from: daveylibra on Jul 21, 04:03 PM 2018
Hi Andre, by never lost do you mean never gone through the 15 unit suggested bankroll? And approx. how many hands is an average session? One more question if I may - do we have to wait ages for a trigger?
Hi,
Yes just 15 units
The wait for the trigger is not long. It can take about 5 to 20 minutes to play in online casinos and trackind more than one table
Quote from: Andre Chass on Jul 21, 04:09 PM 2018
Hi,
Yes just 15 units
The wait for the trigger is not long. It can take about 5 to 20 minutes to play in online casinos and trackind more than one table
Waiting , triggers , watching many tables.....didn't you learned nothing at all ? You're saying the same thing again and again.....and the results will be the same..... bankrupt
Denzie, please stop attacking me. I have nothing against you. I do not know why you hate me. If you want I can send you the strategy and you take your own conclusions.
I'm not fooling anyone here. Peace
Quote from: Andre Chass on Jul 21, 04:23 PM 2018
Denzie, please stop attacking me. I have nothing against you. I do not know why you hate me. If you want I can send you the strategy and you take your own conclusions.
I'm not fooling anyone here. Peace
Ok send me and ill test against the 100k terrible shoes from albalaha. But i will tell the real results...good or bad. Up to you if you sure about your method
A lot of people asking me the win rate.
100%
I will said it again. I never lose playing the strategy.
I have no reason to lie.
I'm not begging for money. I'm not forcing anyone to buy the strategy.
I just want to help people beat the Casino. But I want to be rewarded and recognized my hard work.
If you want, buy it... If not? Ok
Well, so far I've had five sales.
But many people are complaining that the payment is in euros.
I'm changing it to be payd in dollars.
The strategy now costs $75 USD
looking forward to reviews
Quote from: ahlidap on Jul 21, 02:50 PM 2018
Hi Andre,
as you know, I'm ready to try hit!
Lets go ;)
Contact me by email so I can answer your question.
Please, if you have a question contact me by email because I'm getting this message:
"You have exceeded the limit of 5 personal messages per hour."
doubleattack.strategy@gmail.com
Denzie what exactly is your problem with Andre? You think he can’t beat roulette? Who really can? You?
Quote from: denzie
link=topic=20610.msg206234#msg206234 date=1532198477
Omg is this guy serious ? I dont feel like being polite but i'll try to keep it calm....
Few facts about this gambling wonder...when he first came to this forum he knew nothing about roulette...And for sure nothing about baccarat. That being said...Few months later he claimed to study the game of roulette for years , many hours a day. Still he asked stupid questions about the game. And then....baaaaaam he have the hg. And baaaaam one week later another hg....And baaaaaam the same week a third hg..... with his big mouth he started to make problem . Some time later he came clean that he failed. And start say sorry.....
Now the baccarat story...after few months he got it (again)...oooh and asking money for it.....
I cant say nothing about his personal life or i get banned but to all readers.... please dont give this guy even 1$ . He needs the money ....
DONT BELIEVE THIS GUY AND DONT GIVE HIM MONEY !!!!
Yes André you can go cry and report to moderator but....only the truth here
Please stop sending PM.
I'm getting this message:
"You have exceeded the limit of 5 personal messages per hour."
I can not answer any more through forum.
If you have any question:
doubleattack.strategy@gmail.com
I'm launching a challenge!
If you bought the strategy and had a loss, say it here in this thread.
But sharing the strategy is not allowed.
PS: You have to prove it to me.
Quote from: Mako on Jul 21, 02:44 PM 2018
Nice Andre, perfect way to handle someone with doubt, other system sellers should learn from this example.
Give a few away in exchange for honest reviews, and if it's legitimate it will fly.
I did that too. Primarily to show honesty and address false claims, not sell. A few times. I gave away free computers for public assessment, did many public demos, and still give away free complete methods. Even a free trial computer. But none of it helps people who don't care to research. Ultimately the people who don't research aren't serious, and anyone stupid enough to believe surface junk is not smart enough for AP anyway.
As for andre, anyone selling anything can expect fair criticism or questions. It is fair to have my and other sellers credibility questioned, but within reason. No personal attacks.
Thanks for your comments Steve!
Payment sent, I am waiting to start testing your strategy.
Quote from: denzie on Jul 21, 04:16 PM 2018
Waiting , triggers , watching many tables.....didn't you learned nothing at all ? You're saying the same thing again and again.....and the results will be the same..... bankrupt
Your theories are equally incorrect.
Money Back Guarantee & Refund ?
AFTER I BUY RESLUT LONG RUN IS LOSE
Quote from: ice789 on Jul 22, 01:21 AM 2018
Money Back Guarantee & Refund ?
AFTER I BUY RESLUT LONG RUN IS LOSE
Espected result !
Systems that are supposed to beat the game shouldn’t be sold ! That’s a matter of fact ...
Quote from: Moncef on Jul 21, 10:45 PM 2018
Payment sent, I am waiting to start testing your strategy.
Sorry, I was sleeping.
Thanks for enjoying my work and purchasing the strategy.
I wish you a lot of success!
Cheers
Quote from: Roulettebeater on Jul 22, 02:03 AM 2018
Espected result !
Systems that are supposed to beat the game shouldn’t be sold ! That’s a matter of fact ...
I consider you my friend
Test it first and you will get your own conclusions.
Cheers
I am a teacher from France and I am living in Brazil. It's early morning here. I'll answer all the questions as soon as I wake up.
Thanks
Quote from: Moncef on Jul 21, 10:45 PM 2018
Payment sent, I am waiting to start testing your strategy.
Strategy sent.
Please make the payment!
Quote from: ice789 on Jul 22, 01:21 AM 2018
Money Back Guarantee & Refund ?
AFTER I BUY RESLUT LONG RUN IS LOSE
No money back guarantee!
You will not need that. The strategy is a winner
Quote from: Andre Chass on Jul 21, 02:23 PM 2018
Double Attack© - Baccarat Strategy
After several attempts to win playing baccarat and losing money I decided to stop playing and start studying the game.
I spent several hours a day for months studying the game and learning to read the shoes until I could create this strategy.
Thousands of shoes were studied and tested. Dozens of sessions were played with real money without loss. The strategy never failed.
You can recover your investment playing only a few sessions.
You can play as many sessions as you want. It depends on how much time you have available to play and your bankroll.
For the strategy to be successful, you will need to use a Trigger and a Short Progression. In all my sessions I never needed to go to the fifth step of the progression and rarely had to go to the fourth step.
I will give you several examples of how to use the strategy Double Attack© showing images of some real bets that have already been played.
No mislead, no scam.
I will send to you a 6 page doc file.
This strategy costs 75 â,¬
Bankroll suggestion: 15 units
PayPal for payment: doubleattack.strategy@gmail.com
Frequently Asked Questions:
Why is he selling a winning strategy? If it's a winning strategy he doens't need to sell it.
R: I'm selling the strategy to help people to beat the casinos.
But why you're selling it and not sharing it?
R: I like that my work is valued and prestigious. I worked hard to create an effective strategy. I think whatever work you do, you have to be rewarded for your effort.
Feel free to ask any question.
Please be polite.
for win only 75 usd no ploblem
if lose i lose 75 usd
you win 75 usd
I'm getting lots of emails. I will answer all questions. I ask for patience because it is still dawn where I live. I need some sleep.
It's 05:43 now
Thank you!
I will answer the emails as soon as possible. Please, a little patience.
Easy to learn, easy to win
I have to agree with Denzie, I have posted numerous times about Andre and it got deleted. Never ever waste money on a so-called no loss strategy. A true winner doesn't need to be sold. Simple as that.
And please go back just one year ago, and see what Andre was doing and saying. He really has no clue, he has just recently gotten into baccarat right after johnlegend/Sentinel's pattern breaker (one of the biggest roulette fallacy threads of all time). And now he has the baccarat hg? Come on,there are many many baccarat experts on the web who has been playing and doing extensive research for years. And Andre isn't one of them. He needed money for his personal reasons, and played the romanosky strategy daily to win. Wake up, take his free strategy and test it before playing with real money.
Opening a baccarat thread on a forum does not make you an expert.
Quote from: junscissorhands on Jul 22, 08:10 AM 2018
I have to agree with Denzie, I have posted numerous times about Andre and it got deleted. Never ever waste money on a so-called no loss strategy. A true winner doesn't need to be sold. Simple as that.
To be fair, aren't you doing this yourself? ( selling a strategy) & much more expensive.
I have not seen one post to say this works ?????
I'll answer all the questions. If you bought the strategy and have any question, Just wait a little bit.
In one hour I'll send the doc file containing some explanations of the strategy.
I already knew that I would face criticism and personal attacks.
I have no reason to lie.
I'm not begging for money. I'm not forcing anyone to buy the strategy.
I just want to help people beat the Casino. But I want to be rewarded and recognized my hard work.
If you want buy it, ok.... If you don't want to buy it, ok!
I will say it again. I never lose playing the strategy.
Maybe you believe yourself while saying this but I don't believe you as well. In those forums no method was found like this in many years. You are not the first one and not the last.
Quote from: iggiv on Jul 22, 01:13 PM 2018
Maybe you believe yourself while saying this but I don't believe you as well. In those forums no method was found like this in many years. You are not the first one and not the last.
I'll chose some friends here and I'll send the strategy for free. They will take their own conclusions.
I do not need to hear that crap. I will no longer argue
I don't need that! To hear that bunch of shit.
I'll no longer sell the strategy anymore.
I was trying to help people with an efficient strategy.
But I'm sick of a lot of personal attack
I'll answer all the questions. If you bought the strategy and have any question, Just wait a little bit.
In one hour I'll send the doc file containing some explanations of the strategy.
Andre! If your strategy wins, why waste time here promoting it? Just play it, make money, enjoy. Time is money for you now.
You are losing money while trying to defend yourself.
I have test his strategy called double Attack , and i did won 8 session without any problem . Congratulation Andre for your method.
it's seem to going well so far , i start to play after some virtual loss as you said in your guidebook , congratulation for your strategy
and for your 3 months work, i trust your method Andre because you are someone who are doing living with baccarat game , and for the moment i am a winner with your method :)
Quote from: iggiv on Jul 22, 01:51 PM 2018
Andre! If your strategy wins, why waste time here promoting it? Just play it, make money, enjoy. Time is money for you now.
You are losing money while trying to defend yourself.
You're right!
I'll no longer sell the strategy anymore.
I'm tired hearing a lot of bullshit and personal attacks.
I will only help those who have already bought the strategy.
I was just trying to help.
Please delete the thread
Quote from: AndyCasinoK on Jul 22, 01:56 PM 2018
I have test his strategy called double Attack , and i did won 8 session without any problem . Congratulation Andre for your method.
it's seem to going well so far , i start to play after some virtual loss as you said in your guidebook , congratulation for your strategy
and for your 3 months work, i trust your method Andre because you are someone who are doing living with baccarat game , and for the moment i am a winner with your method :)
I'm happy you are enjoying the strategy!
Thank you very much
I wish you a lot of success
Any question contact me by email
Quote from: AndyCasinoK on Jul 22, 01:56 PM 2018
I have test his strategy called double Attack , and i did won 8 session without any problem . Congratulation Andre for your method.
it's seem to going well so far , i start to play after some virtual loss as you said in your guidebook , congratulation for your strategy
and for your 3 months work, i trust your method Andre because you are someone who are doing living with baccarat game , and for the moment i am a winner with your method :)
Andre provided me with a review copy, and I found the instructions to be clear and the bet selection options to be well laid out. It's a simple method, there isn't anything complicated about it, and it doesn't require any lengthy pencil/paper tracking or other calculations during sessions.
I haven't had a chance to test it for long this morning, but so far it's won on RNG (no losses in first six attempts).
It isn't a grail, but a grail isn't going to cost $75 either. This is something that probably has a winrate around 95-99% when it's applied, we'll see as time passes. So far it delivers what was promised, no complaints.
It might be good Andre if you do a quick screen capture video showing the play in action using an online Bac simulator for buyers, along with some narration, since some learn more quickly that way versus reading through a doc. Luckily this doc is short and well illustrated for those who fit that category.
Knowing his history on the forum, I can tell that Andre is playing it himself for sure, there's no doubt in my mind based on the type of play that it is. He loves these sorts of methods and I believe he's using it as his sole playing mechanic on a daily basis with actual money.
With things like this I tend to judge the present, not the past. It's valid to point out previous forum behavior, previous statements, and previous actions (good or bad), when a member attempts to sell a system. I have no problem with that, provided it's done in a non-personal way.
But for myself, I tend to evaluate a system/method itself independently of that creator's past, simply because the system itself is either going to stand on it's own or fail on it's own. "Does it win" is the only thing I care about in this sort of situation.
I like this particular method so far, and am going to set aside more time this week to actually try and break it with a fail, just to get an idea how often that may be.
CAPTURE YOU PLAY CASINO REAL MOEY AND REPORT
I WANT SEE
Quote from: ice789 on Jul 22, 02:37 PM 2018
CAPTURE YOU PLAY CASINO REAL MOEY AND REPORT
I WANT SEE
Sawasdee krap
I see proof selling systems. I don’t think anything of it because he’s been making systems for years and is just looking to make a buck. Nothing misleading we know what we get from proof. No problem here
Then I see this guy selling
And it screams scam. The way he came to the forum. The stories. The baiting with systems in development
Buy at your own risk
If you read his posts thoroughly you will see contradictions and lies
I'm trying to answer all the emails.
I'll send a new file with an extra explanation.
Just wait a little bit, please
Quote from: Andre Chass on Jul 22, 02:56 PM 2018
I'm trying to answer all the emails.
I'll send a new file with an extra explanation.
Just wait a little bit, please
PLS CHECK YOUR E-MAIL
ONLY REAL 75 USD NO PLOBLEM
TEST RESULT WIN
IN 24 HOURS MONEY TO YOU FOR HARD WORK
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Jul 22, 02:52 PM 2018
I see proof selling systems. I don’t think anything of it because he’s been making systems for years and is just looking to make a buck. Nothing misleading we know what we get from proof. No problem here
Then I see this guy selling
And it screams scam. The way he came to the forum. The stories. The baiting with systems in development
Buy at your own risk
If you read his posts thoroughly you will see contradictions and lies
I'll send the strategy for free to you.
Quote from: Andre Chass on Jul 22, 02:59 PM 2018
I'll send the strategy for free to you.
Wheres my copy ? ;D
How are you doing with roulette Denzie?
Good I hope?
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Jul 22, 03:05 PM 2018
How are you doing with roulette Denzie?
Good I hope?
Good thx, RG :thumbsup:
I see your back on the forums....ready to play again ?
Quote from: denzie on Jul 22, 03:08 PM 2018
Good thx, RG :thumbsup:
I see your back on the forums....ready to play again ?
Just about lol. Soon
Quote from: ice789 on Jul 22, 02:59 PM 2018
PLS CHECK YOUR E-MAIL
ONLY REAL 75 USD NO PLOBLEM
TEST RESULT WIN
IN 24 HOURS MONEY TO YOU FOR HARD WORK
Thanks for purchasing the strategy
I will send it in your email
I'm doing an extra file with more explanation
Just wait some minutes, please
I wish you a lot of success
Quote from: ice789 on Jul 22, 02:59 PM 2018
PLS CHECK YOUR E-MAIL
ONLY REAL 75 USD NO PLOBLEM
TEST RESULT WIN
IN 24 HOURS MONEY TO YOU FOR HARD WORK
Please, send me your email again with the forum nickname
Quote from: Andre Chass on Jul 22, 04:09 PM 2018
Please, send me your email again with the forum nickname
check your e-mail
i wait your method
Quote from: ice789 on Jul 22, 04:17 PM 2018
check your e-mail
i wait your method
Please, the payment
Thanks
I'm answering all the emails.
Please check your mail box
The extra file explanation is ready
If in case I forget to send the strategy to someone, please send me the email with proof of payment
Thanks
Hi,
I have this one, but I did not had the time to play with it this weekend.
All I can say is that it's simple, and not much waiting time (at least playing on net).
Just a suggestion for those who have this:
consider just a two step progression:
1 loose
2 loose
back to 1 then....
;)
Obrigado Andre
Quote from: ahlidap on Jul 22, 04:57 PM 2018
Hi,
I have this one, but I did not had the time to play with it this weekend.
All I can say is that it's simple, and not much waiting time (at least playing on net).
Just a suggestion for those who have this:
consider just a two step progression:
1 loose
2 loose
back to 1 then....
;)
Obrigado Andre
Thanks for purchasing the strategy!
I wish you success!
Cheers
Quote from: Mako on Jul 22, 02:21 PM 2018
Andre provided me with a review copy, and I found the instructions to be clear and the bet selection options to be well laid out. It's a simple method, there isn't anything complicated about it, and it doesn't require any lengthy pencil/paper tracking or other calculations during sessions.
I haven't had a chance to test it for long this morning, but so far it's won on RNG (no losses in first six attempts).
It isn't a grail, but a grail isn't going to cost $75 either. This is something that probably has a winrate around 95-99% when it's applied, we'll see as time passes. So far it delivers what was promised, no complaints.
It might be good Andre if you do a quick screen capture video showing the play in action using an online Bac simulator for buyers, along with some narration, since some learn more quickly that way versus reading through a doc. Luckily this doc is short and well illustrated for those who fit that category.
Knowing his history on the forum, I can tell that Andre is playing it himself for sure, there's no doubt in my mind based on the type of play that it is. He loves these sorts of methods and I believe he's using it as his sole playing mechanic on a daily basis with actual money.
With things like this I tend to judge the present, not the past. It's valid to point out previous forum behavior, previous statements, and previous actions (good or bad), when a member attempts to sell a system. I have no problem with that, provided it's done in a non-personal way.
But for myself, I tend to evaluate a system/method itself independently of that creator's past, simply because the system itself is either going to stand on it's own or fail on it's own. "Does it win" is the only thing I care about in this sort of situation.
I like this particular method so far, and am going to set aside more time this week to actually try and break it with a fail, just to get an idea how often that may be.
Thank you!
I sent to you the extra file explanation.
Cheers
I'm answering all the emails.
Please check your mail box
The extra file explanation is ready
If in case I forget to send the strategy to someone, please send me the email with proof of payment
Thanks for the the patience
May I make it clear:
The goal of the strategy is to get only one win per shoe.
You can begin at any point of the shoe since the trigger appears.
The system will not work all the time betting ANY SHOE. Sometimes occurs clustered banker/player shoes. We need avoid it or stop betting. The strategy doc has the advice about that.
I never lost playing this strategy. But we need discipline and play by the rules. Never do bet before the trigger.
Hi Andre,
was there a time where you had to recoup your losses in next shoe?
Thanks
Quote from: Moncef on Jul 22, 07:56 PM 2018
Hi Andre,
was there a time where you had to recoup your losses in next shoe?
Thanks
There were a time when the shoe ran out and I could not complete the progression. (Clustered banker/player shoe). I completed the session betting another shoe.
We need to pay attention at the shoes.
Quote from: Andre Chass on Jul 22, 08:03 PM 2018
There were a time when the shoe ran out and I could not complete the progression. (Clustered banker/player shoe). I completed the session betting another shoe.
We need to pay attention at the shoes.
Thanks
pls check your e-mail
payment finish
wait your method
Quote from: ice789 on Jul 22, 10:43 PM 2018
pls check your e-mail
payment finish
wait your method
Hi ice789
Thanks for purchasing the strategy and support my work!
The strategy was sent to you. Please check your email.
I wish you a lot of success!
Have a great week!
I spent most of the day answering emails and playing the strategy.
I had 3 winning sessions and made a $ 50 profit each session.
I'm very tired and I need some sleep. As soon as I wake up I'll answer other emails.
A nice week to all!
Quote from: Andre Chass on Jul 22, 11:05 PM 2018
Hi ice789
Thanks for purchasing the strategy and support my work!
The strategy was sent to you. Please check your email.
I wish you a lot of success!
Have a great week!
if that would be true, you wouldn't stay all time here logged in and waiting for someone to buy your system.
Andre, you can't solve your financial problems like that!
No one here knows anything about my life. First of all, I'm currently financially well. I had some financial difficulties in the past and I think most people have already had some financial difficulty at some point in their lives. I also made some strategy mistakes playing roulette in the past.
I am providing an efficient strategy. Not for free because I worked hard and spent sleepless nights studying the baccarat game to create the strategy. That's why I deserve to be rewarded for my effort. I'm not asking anyone to buy it. I am providing an opportunity to the people get good profits using the strategy. If people want to buy the strategy, great! If you do not want to, great too! I'm not a scammer or a liar. I have a reputation to watch over. I have my family and my friends. I am loved and respected by all of them. I would not have the courage to harm anyone. Everyone is looking for an efficient strategy here in this forum and all we find are guess threads.
I will no longer defend myself from haters and personal attacks.
That's all. Now I need some sleep.
I'll answer the emails as soon as I can.
after test not work in long run
Quote from: Andre Chass on Jul 22, 07:51 PM 2018
May I make it clear:
The goal of the strategy is to get only one win per shoe.
You can begin at any point of the shoe since the trigger appears.
The system will not work all the time betting ANY SHOE. Sometimes occurs clustered banker/player shoes. We need avoid it or stop betting. The strategy doc has the advice about that.
I never lost playing this strategy. But we need discipline and play by the rules. Never do bet before the trigger.
I have read all Andre's posts in this forum and I can say that he is putting lots of effort to win in this game. Literally, he must have played and tested thousand of shoes and put every effort to be a long term winner in Baccarat. I love Baccarat and would like to test every method that is out there.
Thanks,
jsintl
Quote from: ice789 on Jul 23, 04:08 AM 2018
after test not work in long run
Define long run. How many shoes, avg hands, dd, profit?
Most people mention "long run" without even thinking on a game plan...
Quote from: ayk on Jul 23, 05:10 AM 2018
Define long run. How many shoes, avg hands, dd, profit?
for sure, less than a day.
THIS TRIGGER HAVE LOSE SURE 100%
Quote from: ice789 on Jul 23, 05:46 AM 2018
THIS TRIGGER HAVE LOSE SURE 100%
The only statistics you can trust are those you falsified yourself right? Throwing in one sentence per post means nothing tbh. Even in caps it's more doubtful. It's like me posting I got a 12 inch dick. Believe it or not. At least prove with some end results darling...
IF THIS SYSTEM WIN
SHOW REPORT YOU WIN 1 MONTH 2 MONTH 3 MONTH NO ONLY 1 DAY
4 STEP 1-2-4-8 I KNOW AND WAIT TRIGGER YOU WIN 7 DAY 15 DAY
NO LONG RUN
I TEST TEST
NO PLAY REAL MONEY
I PAY 75 USD
I TEST
I NO PLAY
TEST NOW 2000 TRIGER FAIL
link:s://wizardofodds.com/play/baccarat/
link:s://wizardofodds.com/games/baccarat/basics/#toc-Simulations
ZUMMA SHOE
link:s://:.youtube.com/channel/UCW1maVYL9XiSYE45FsEXmUg TEST YOUTUBE
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TEST NOW....................
Quote from: ice789 on Jul 23, 07:12 AM 2018
IF THIS SYSTEM WIN
SHOW REPORT YOU WIN 1 MONTH 2 MONTH 3 MONTH NO ONLY 1 DAY
4 STEP 1-2-4-8 I KNOW AND WAIT TRIGGER YOU WIN 7 DAY 15 DAY
NO LONG RUN
I TEST TEST
NO PLAY REAL MONEY
I never said this system wins or looses. Neither have I bought it, or will buy it. It's just ton of shit info telling ppl smth is not working without any proof. I really struggle to understand your posts. Maybe use your native language and let Google do the rest. Don't get me wrong. I'm not defending Andre. Post your shoe without details, just end result, to give him the chance to response and argue.
I watched some videos. I think you're playing it wrong.
You can only start betting after two virtual losses in a row. Never bet if there are virtual wins. If this occurs you must look for another shoe.
I just woke up. Send me a email. Let's talk about it.
Quote from: Andre Chass on Jul 23, 08:13 AM 2018I watched some videos. I think you're playing it wrong.
You can only start betting after two virtual losses in a row. Never bet if there are virtual wins. If this occurs you must look for another shoe.
I just woke up. Send me a email. Let's talk about it
i know virtual 2 lose bet 4 step
you win play realmoney
no lose
pls show report
Email me
I need to have breakfast and take a shower.
I will answer you as soon as possible.
wait for report
in forum
you not fake
you not lose
you play win every session
LOSE 75 USD FOR THIS SYSTEM
I think you've lost your head, not 75 euros.
You can clearly see what TYPES of people buy this shit.
Lol is ice and Andre the same? Might be as he is endorsing this so badly and maybe deliberately typing like a Neanderthaler to make it less obvious.
Andre, you are always very defensive and bigmouthed before. Where is that Andre now? Miss him. That's what gambling losses does to you, takes the man out of ya.
Quote from: ice789 on Jul 23, 10:42 AM 2018
LOSE 75 USD FOR THIS SYSTEM
I think you didn't understand how to play the strategy.
You don't want to email me.
From the beginning you sent me three emails requesting the strategy for free.
Now that you've paid for the strategy, you say you've lost 75 bucks but you do not want to contact me by email.
I have sold many copies of the strategy and nobody has complained because it is an efficient strategy.
I don't understand you. Please use Google translate. Use you native language.
Please, do print the screen of the game and send it to me. I wanna help you.
I'm waiting
I WANT SEE REPORT
YOU SAY YOU PLAY NO LOSE
YOU WIN EVERY ESSION
IF YOU THINK I DO NOT UNDERSTAND MRTHOD
I EXAMPLE PLAY YOU OK ?
I PLAY SPORT BETTING -ASIAN HANDICAP- ROULETTE BACCARAT BLACKJACK
ONLY TRIGGER EASY I KNOW
PLS SHOW RELUT REPORT
IF NO HAVE I THINK YOU FAKE
NOT REAL MAN
Quote from: Andre Chass on Jul 23, 11:21 AM 2018
I think you didn't understand how to play the strategy.
You don't want to email me.
From the beginning you sent me three emails requesting the strategy for free.
Now that you've paid for the strategy, you say you've lost 75 bucks but you do not want to contact me by email.
I have sold many copies of the strategy and nobody has complained because it is an efficient strategy.
I don't understand you. Please use Google translate.
Please, print the screen of the game and send to me. I wanna help you.
I'm waiting
I have a solution :
Refund him the 75$
Problem solved !
Quote from: ice789 on Jul 23, 11:26 AM 2018
I WANT SEE REPORT
YOU SAY YOU PLAY NO LOSE
YOU WIN EVERY ESSION
IF YOU THINK I DO NOT UNDERSTAND MRTHOD
I EXAMPLE PLAY YOU OK ?
I PLAY SPORT BETTING -ASIAN HANDICAP- ROULETTE BACCARAT BLACKJACK
ONLY TRIGGER EASY I KNOW
PLS SHOW RELUT REPORT
IF NO HAVE I THINK YOU FAKE
NO REAL MAN
I don't understand you. You have a poor English.
I wanna help you but you don't want email me.
I do not need to go through this. You're not being kind to me.
From the beginning you insisted on having the strategy for free.
I don't need your $75. I will refund you.
I just ask you to not share the strategy.
Please email me and I I'll refund you.
These two guys respond exceptionally QUICK to each other. Hmm, fishy.
I BUY ANY SYSTEM ANY PROGRAM
I SAY REAL NO FAKE
link:s://betselection.cc/ BANED ME BECAUSE
I TEST AND REVIEW RESULT APP
NOT WORK
link:s://:.youtube.com/watch?v=EQvFfYpZkho&t=1s
Quote from: junscissorhands on Jul 23, 11:40 AM 2018
These two guys respond exceptionally QUICK to each other. Hmm, fishy.
Rouletteghost is ICE!
Quote from: ice789 on Jul 23, 11:42 AM 2018
I BUY ANY SYSTEM ANY PROGRAM
I SAY REAL NO FAKE
link:s://betselection.cc/ BANED ME BECAUSE
I TEST AND REVIEW RESULT APP
NOT WORK
link:s://:.youtube.com/watch?v=EQvFfYpZkho&t=1s
Again...
I think you didn't understand how to play the strategy.
You don't want to email me.
From the beginning you sent me three emails requesting the strategy for free.
Now that you've paid for the strategy, you say you've lost 75 bucks but you do not want to contact me by email.
I have sold many copies of the strategy and nobody has complained because it is an efficient strategy.
I don't understand you. Please use Google translate. Use you native language.
Please, do print the screen of the game and send it to me. I wanna help you.
I'm waiting
I don't understand you. You have a poor English.
I wanna help you but you don't want email me.
I do not need to go through this. You're not being kind to me.
From the beginning you insisted on having the strategy for free.
I don't need your $75. I will refund you.I just ask you to not share the strategy.
Please email me and
I I'll refund you.
Quote from: Andre Chass on Jul 23, 11:36 AM 2018
I don't understand you. You have a poor English.
I wanna help you but you don't want email me.
I do not need to go through this. You're not being kind to me.
From the beginning you insisted on having the strategy for free.
I don't need your $75. I will refund you.
I just ask you to not share the strategy.
Please email me and I I'll refund you.
CHECK E-MAIL I WANT REFUND MY MONEY
Quote from: ice789 on Jul 23, 11:46 AM 2018
CHECK E-MAIL I WANT REFUND MY MONEY
Ok, I'll refund you. I ask you to not share the strategy.
Wait a few minutes and I'll refund you.
And please, learn some English.
@ice789
Refund has been sent. Please do not share the strategy.
Do you understand me? Use Google translate.
I am answering every message as far as I can. But I have a life. I have to go to the supermarket. I have to feed my pets. I have to dedicate some time to my girlfriend, etc. I'm making another file containing an extra explanation. I need time. Please, patience.
Who deleted my post? I see that Andre corrected his post.
The Double Attack extra file is ready! It has clear explanation.
If you purchased the strategy and have any questions, please email me.
I would sent it to you.
Thank you very much!
Quote from: junscissorhands on Jul 23, 04:30 PM 2018
Who deleted my post? I see that Andre corrected his post.
I deleted it due to a "report to mod"
"...They don't know how your strategy works. This is something a professional baccarat player is looking for. This is the only way you can stay disciplined and that you can meet your daily winning goal.
I understand how to make a bet on your strategy now. I will use it along with my other strategies.
Best of luck and thank you for your your hard work and sharing it with me (us)."
- A very kindly player that purchased the strategy
Still working for me in tests today, haven't been past a single third progression yet. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Occasionally you won't get a shoe that allows you to bet, but more often than not you're going to get a betting opportunity once a shoe on average (80 hands or so).
If you can monitor multiple tables at once then you have more chances to engage obviously.
Jun and RB, you guys are killing me in this thread though, have to admit...LOL :thumbsup: :twisted: :twisted:
Quote from: junscissorhands on Jul 23, 10:19 AM 2018
One talks like he has the down syndrome.
I PLAY
WIN Yes No lOse
Prove yes waiT no.
And the other one tells us his every step in life.
I eat breakfast now.
I go to shower now.
I go to sleep now.
I'm taking a shit now.
ICE, please use your native tongue.
Andre, we don't need every single detail of you going to sleep, eat or taking a dump.
:twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
Please, don't polutte the thread!
I'll appreciate it!
Thank you very much!
Quote from: Mako on Jul 23, 05:28 PM 2018
Still working for me in tests today, haven't been past a single third progression yet. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Occasionally you won't get a shoe that allows you to bet, but more often than not you're going to get a betting opportunity once a shoe on average (80 hands or so).
If you can monitor multiple tables at once then you have more chances to engage obviously.
I'm happy the strategy is working for you!
At least someone is entertained, Mako :)
I guess i should sell one of my systems here as well, i have a dozens/columns strategy which has 99.8% success rate. It can "theoretically bust" but it never happened, can make 10+ units in a short time EASILY. But if i would sell it i don't even know what kind of price i should put on it.
I will have to think about it. That system has 4 level-progression, hardly reaches 3rd and 4th is extremely rare. You can stretch it to 5 or use a Holloway progression instead if you want EVEN safer approach. But first let me think about it and see if there is someone interested.
Quote from: junscissorhands on Jul 23, 05:57 PM 2018
At least someone is entertained, Mako :)
I guess i should sell one of my systems here as well, i have a dozens/columns strategy which has 99.8% success rate. It can "theoretically bust" but it never happened, can make 10+ units in a short time EASILY. But if i would sell it i don't even know what kind of price i should put on it.
I will have to think about it. That system has 4 level-progression, hardly reaches 3rd and 4th is extremely rare. You can stretch it to 5 or use a Holloway progression instead if you want EVEN safer approach. But first let me think about it and see if there is someone interested.
Do it, love those EC progressions...gets the juice flowing.
Make it cheap so that when I get overconfident and grand martingale it to zero I can still afford $13 scotch. :love:
Today was a busy day.
Only 2 sessions played 2 session won.
$ 30 profit each session.
First session won at second step of the progression.
Second session won at first step of the progression.
I got two clustered shoes and I had to avoid them.
Nice Andre good job :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Quote from: Andre Chass on Jul 23, 09:12 PM 2018
Today was a busy day.
Only 2 sessions played 2 session won.
$ 30 profit each session.
First session won at second step of the progression.
Second session won at first step of the progression.
I got two clustered shoes and I had to avoid them.
Thanks for your post update. Hope to duplicate your success.
Joey
Good morning guys
I just woke up !
I have short time to comment !
I have first to wash my face, then brush my teeth, change my pants then I will have to drink my coffee ...
:)
You forgot something. Is that why you changed your pants?
Quote from: Steve on Jul 24, 05:21 AM 2018
You forgot something. Is that why you changed your pants?
No I didn’t forgot anything !
Are you one of those people without an anus? Im certain nobody in the tax office has one. Weird inhuman bloodsucking creatures. Sorry I take that back. For you I mean, not the c*nts at the tax office.
Quote from: Steve on Jul 24, 05:57 AM 2018
Are you one of those people without an anus? Im certain nobody in the tax office has one. Weird inhuman bloodsucking creatures. Sorry I take that back. For you I mean, not the c*nts at the tax office.
It’s Better that the money goes to the tax office than to the casino monsters !
Either way, it ends up in the hands on billionaires who didn't earn it. A ridiculous portion of your tax goes to the federal reserve, which is a private corporation, to pay the debt which is used to create money that is created from nothing and steals value from existing money supply, aka inflation. If everyone understood it, there would be a revolution.
Its tax time. I'm pissed off. Our wealth is being blatantly stolen, and it's only possible because people don't know what's happening.
Steve, many years ago you posted a link to a video on YOUTUBE about how money was created from nothing. It was kind of cartoonish in style. Do you remember it? Do you have the link? I was talking to the other half about it the other day.
@Roulettebeater
Can you stop trolling me, please?
Thanks
I DONT
May I make it clear:
The goal of the strategy is to get only one win per shoe.
You can begin at any point of the shoe since the trigger appears.
The system will not work all the time betting ANY SHOE. Sometimes occurs clustered banker/player shoes. We need avoid it or stop betting. The strategy doc has the advice about that.
I never lost playing this strategy. But we need DISCIPLINE AND PATIENCE and play by the rules.
Never do bet before the trigger.
I monitored about 30 shoes per day for about 3 months. Average of 3,000 shoes at Dublin Bet.
I NEVER mentioned that the strategy is HG. I don't believe in HG. What I said is that I did not have a loss.
I can guarantee you that even if you have loss you will win much more than lose.
Cheers
Andre is right, and he's said it before, I've gone through 100 shoes now with 34 bets that qualified placed, and all have won.
Highest progression: a single L4 bet (8u), won, and that seems to be a nice stoploss position if it had lost as it's relatively easy to make up that many units if it ever misses.
But one thing that's critical is not betting that shoe unless there were 2 virtual losses to start the shoe.
You can't play this if there was a virtual win, then 2 virtual losses after, because it puts time pressure on the shoe (running out of hands before the strike, new shoe, unknown circumstances). Don't be tempted out of boredom... :twisted:
PS - LOL RB :xd:
If you have any question email me before purchasing the strategy.
doubleattack.strategy@gmail.com
4 sessions played 4 sessions won.
30$ profit each session.
First session won at first step of the progression.
Second session won at third step of the progression.
Third session won at third step of the progression.
Fourth session won at first step of the progression.
It took about two hours and half.
You can also try my others strategies for free.
link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=20480.0
I'll provide a considerable discount on purchase the Double Attack© strategy.
The strategy costs $50
A six page doc and now with an extra file.
PayPal payment: doubleattack.strategy@gmail.com
Limited-time offer only this week.
You are portraying yourself so desperate !
Yes I'm desperate... to show my work. 8)
Quote from: Andre Chass on Jul 25, 04:09 AM 2018
Yes I'm desperate... to show my work. 8)
Desperate to sell your HG
Why you want to earn money from selling ?
Do you need the money to sustain your loss from playing ?
Andre if your system works, go make money ! If not then be nice to not take money from poor members here
The strategy works pretty well and I make money using it. It's my main strategy. The best one!
I want to show my work to the people and see them beat the casinos. But as I said before I worked hard creating the strategy and I deserve to be rewarded.
Quote from: Andre Chass on Jul 25, 04:29 AM 2018
The strategy works pretty well and I make money using it. It's my main strategy. The best one!
I want to show my work to the people and see them beat the casinos. But as I said before I worked hard creating the strategy and I deserve to be rewarded.
Please take care of your business.
Ok but your repeated posts point to somewhere else!
You are focusing on the sale ! You are condemning yourself ! By focusing on the sale (repeating posts, discounts, changing PayPal email ) you are intentionally trying to take the people to the place you want them to be at
Ok, you win!
I'm a scammer and a lier. I'm desperate for money. I need to pay my bills.
Quote from: Andre Chass on Jul 25, 04:36 AM 2018
I need to pay my bills.
You need to pay your bills and pills too
:xd: :xd:
Come on Andre, you know that I like you...
All, Andre is honest guy, his baccarat system is near hg and it’s great for people who want to win steadily a good amount of money ...
Quote from: Roulettebeater on Jul 25, 04:42 AM 2018
You need to pay your bills and pills too
:xd: :xd:
Come on Andre, you know that I like you...
All, Andre is honest guy, his baccarat system is near hg and it’s great for people who want to win steadily a good amount of money ...
Hello!
I can also feel that Andre is a honest guy. I did try his PA but I don't really have that time to wait, so I stop playing it though I'm profitable using it. I don't know about this Double Attack if you need to wait that long for the trigger.
Quote from: jsintl on Jul 25, 07:31 AM 2018
I don't know about this Double Attack if you need to wait that long for the trigger.
Sometimes the trigger comes quickly. (about 5 minutes) Sometimes it may take a little longer. About 15 to 20 minutes. But I think the wait is worth it. The strategy is to make money, not to have fun.
Well, anyway you will have fun watching the beautiful dealers girls... lol
I'm getting too many emails.
If you have not yet received the strategy, please send me an email with proof of payment.
Thanks
The strategy costs $50
doubleattack.strategy@gmail.com
Limited-time offer only this week.
Why you should give a try playing Baccarat?
R: The house edge is minimal.
Take a look
link:s://:.forbes.com/sites/davidschwartz/2018/06/21/why-casinos-love-and-fear-baccarat-the-worlds-biggest-gambling-game/#7b1416044188
..."What makes baccarat dangerous for casinos is that, due to the large amounts of money bet and the thin house edge, players have the potential to win serious money at the casino’s expense. "
All it takes is one streak of 10 parlaying wins to have a huge pay day
My baccarat machines often have these streaks
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Jul 26, 10:14 AM 2018
All it takes is one streak of 10 parlaying wins to have a huge pay day
My baccarat machines often have these streaks
I already tried play this way.
I realized that most players without knowledge play this way. If that worked all players would be doing it for a living or the baccarat tables would be removed from casinos.
Keep in mind that gambling is always risks. No strategy is 100% perfect. The Double Attack strategy works great and I have personally not lose any money using it with the proper progression. It's my main strategy.
Will I (you) always win using the strategy?
No, but if you eventually have a loss you recover quickly.
Cheers
What sort of bank is needed to play this safely ??
I'm getting lots of emails and I'm answering as fast as possible.
May I make it clear again.
The goal of the strategy is to get only one win per shoe.
You can begin at any point of the shoe since the trigger appears.
The system will not work all the time betting ANY SHOE. Sometimes occurs clustered banker/player shoes. We need avoid it or stop betting. The strategy doc has the advice about that.
We need DISCIPLINE AND PATIENCE and play by the rules.
Never do bet before the trigger.
I NEVER mentioned that the strategy is HG. I don't believe in HG. What I said is that I did not lose any money.
I can't guarantee you will win all the sessions because in gambling nothing is 100%..
I can guarantee you that even if you have loss you will win much more than lose.
Pay attention at the shoes. Test the strategy before betting real money.
Keep in mind that gambling is always risks. No strategy is 100% perfect. The Double Attack strategy works great and I have personally not lose any money using it with the proper progression. It's my main strategy.
Pay attention at the shoes. Test the strategy before betting real money.
If you are not familiar with the baccarat game, study the game first before you bet real money. Learn more about Baccarat.
Study the main road screen.
The right progression depends on your playing style. If you are more cautious use the progression 1, 1 or 1, 2 or 1, 1, 2 for example. If you have a more aggressive playing style use 1, 2, 4, 8 ...
All you need is one hit per shoe. If a shoe didn't give you a hit (this may happen, but rarely) you will get a hit betting another shoe.
You need your money management.
You have to fulfill all these requirements in any Casino game you are playing.
Cheers
Today
3 sessions played 3 sessions won.
30$ profit each session.
First session won at second step of the progression.
Second session won at fourth step of the progression. (What a hard session!)
Third session won at second step of the progression.
I got one shoe that run out and I had to complete the session betting other shoe.
Quote from: Andre Chass on Jul 26, 11:53 AM 2018
I already tried play this way.
I realized that most players without knowledge play this way. If that worked all players would be doing it for a living or the baccarat tables would be removed from casinos.
No offence to the way anybody else plays, but trust me, Andre is right! The so-called long Banker/Player streaks are not the easy way to making a living at Baccarat.
There is a reason my local Casino has a Banker promotion running non-stop where the person who has the most consecutive Banker wins at the end of the week wins a big prize (sometimes in the thousands).
Double Attack
link:s://youtu.be/ZFmYOLujcek
Quote from: Andre Chass on Jul 28, 04:04 AM 2018
Today
3 sessions played 3 sessions won.
30$ profit each session.
First session won at second step of the progression.
Second session won at fourth step of the progression. (What a hard session!)
Third session won at second step of the progression.
I got one shoe that run out and I had to complete the session betting other shoe.
Hi Andre.
What if you encounter 3 loses and shoe is over?Do you start a new progression or will try to finish progression from the previous shoe?
André
your video isn’t ok ! It’s so general
Quote from: Kan@am@ on Jul 28, 09:40 PM 2018
Hi Andre.
What if you encounter 3 loses and shoe is over?Do you start a new progression or will try to finish progression from the previous shoe?
When this happens it is always a risk. It's a personal choice. I'd rather start a new progression.
Pay attention to shoes. Never start betting when you realize that the shoe will soon run out.
Always look for a balanced shoe.
Quote from: Roulettebeater on Jul 29, 01:31 AM 2018
André
your video isn’t ok ! It’s so general
I agree with you. But if I make a video showing examples, I would reveal the strategy.
Any suggestion?
Limited-time offer is OVER
The strategy costs $75
I'm interested in the system. I sent an email to you. adre
Quote from: Andre Chass on Jul 29, 06:40 PM 2018I agree with you. But if I make a video showing examples, I would reveal the strategy.
Any suggestion?
You simply must say/show the main idea, but only in idea level. For example, say Blackjack, if we say, that we win because with counting cards detect the situation where we have the advantage and because of that in these moments we bet much more - we say the main idea, but really say nothing...
Similar is with roulette - usually, peoples know that with bias, or VB play player can have significant advantage and are many descriptions of VB and bias play, but how much are peoples who practically can use all that in play? Maybe enough hand fingers to count all in all world...
Quote from: Bebediktus3 on Jul 30, 01:14 PM 2018
You simply must say/show the main idea, but only in idea level. For example, say Blackjack, if we say, that we win because with counting cards detect the situation where we have the advantage and because of that in these moments we bet much more - we say the main idea, but really say nothing...
Similar is with roulette - usually, peoples know that with bias, or VB play player can have significant advantage and are many descriptions of VB and bias play, but how much are peoples who practically can use all that in play? Maybe enough hand fingers to count all in all world...
Thanks for the sugestion!
I'll think about it to make a new video.
Some roulette and baccarat strategies that I have created over time in this forum and you can try it for free.
link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=19666.0
link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=19834.0
link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=20480.0
Double Attack©
A friend here in the forum emailed me and sent me this analysis:
"I tested 200 more shoes from my personal played shoes record at 888 casino, online with live player hand shuffled, below the results:
Shoes analyzed 200 to get 40 playable attacks, as per your rules (2 virtual losses)
Wins at 1st attempt. 25
2nd. 7
3rd. 6
4th. 2
Busted. ="
He's being very kind doing more tests to make sure the strategy is a winner. Maybe a little change in the strategy will be made in the future.
I just got an email from a Baccarat player who bought my strategy:
"This is for me the best strategy ever!"
I'm very happy with the compliments I have been receiving.
Quote from: Andre Chass on Jul 30, 09:55 PM 2018Wins at 1st attempt. 25
2nd. 7
3rd. 6
4th. 2
Busted. ="
What is the attempt ? Bet ?
Quote from: Bebediktus3 on Jul 31, 03:20 AM 2018
What is the attempt ? Bet ?
Wins at:
1st step of the progression 25
2nd step 7
3rd step 6
4th step 2
Busted 0
Please don't pm me.
Any question:
doubleattack.strategy@gmail.com
Quote from: Andre Chass on Jul 31, 02:03 AM 2018
I just got an email from a Baccarat player who bought my strategy:
"This is for me the best strategy ever!"
I'm very happy with the compliments I have been receiving.
No comment !
You are making us laugh
Quote from: Roulettebeater on Aug 01, 05:45 AM 2018
No comment !
You are making us laugh
From the beginning I was thinking of sending a copy of the strategy to you. But now I think you don't deserve it. Lately you haven't done anything good in this forum. Just upsetting some people.
Double Attack ©
Flatbetting 1 1 1 1
Here the numbers requested:
regarding the DA test, playing as per original rules but with 1,1,1,1 prog
these are the results:
test 2)
W 1st. 25. +25
W 2nd. 7. 0
W 3rd. 6. -6
W 4th. 2. -4
busted. 0
total +15
***The results were sent by a forum member.
because i say the truth...?
move on
Double Attack©
Limited-time offer only this weekend.
$50 USD
Questions:
doubleattack.strategy@gmail.com
link:s://youtu.be/ZFmYOLujcek
Less than a year ago you were new to gaming
Posting ideas and methods and asking other for help
Now you have turned into quite the system seller
Gotta be proud.
Quote from: Andre Chass on Jul 23, 03:44 AM 2018
No one here knows anything about my life. First of all, I'm currently financially well. I had some financial difficulties in the past and I think most people have already had some financial difficulty at some point in their lives. I also made some strategy mistakes playing roulette in the past.
I am providing an efficient strategy. Not for free because I worked hard and spent sleepless nights studying the baccarat game to create the strategy. That's why I deserve to be rewarded for my effort. I'm not asking anyone to buy it. I am providing an opportunity to the people get good profits using the strategy. If people want to buy the strategy, great! If you do not want to, great too! I'm not a scammer or something like that. I have a reputation to watch over. I have my family and my friends. I am respected by all of them. Everyone is looking for an efficient strategy here in this forum and all we find are guessing threads.
Again...
To haters and personal attacks.
You can try the Double Attack@ strategy playing without the trigger. See the results.
the numbers arrive by this: 200 shoes tested, 40 played;
this means 160 wins played without the trigger.
in the remaining 40 shoes, these played, we won 25 times at first attempt (after the trigger)
and we arrive at 160+25=185
deploying a 3 steps marty we would have won 185 units
in the rest of cases, winning at 2nd (7 times), 3rd (6times) and 4th (2 times) total of 15, we would have lost the marty of -7 so -7 x 15 = 105 units lost
185 won less 105 lost = +80 units
the 3 steps marty would be busted only 8% of the times playing with no trigger.
200 shoes is optimally 20 days of playing after 10 shoes. Online if you play 10 hours a day, maybe even a few days
From this we have 80 units of profit.
The question is whether it will last?
For me, the tests are a bit short.
I will definitely be in touch as the situation develops.
If the profits will grow proportionally, it will certainly be interesting
purchasers, provide your reviews
Hi Andre , i think this video resume your situation in this forum ;) enjoy
link:s://:.youtube.com/watch?v=2A2kKm9gYdg
They are proven scammers in this forum , but nobody wants to bother them , i got scammed in this forum and i am not the only one ...
but for some peoples Andre seems to be an easy target ... i don't understand why ... his strategy his working well he is using the main road view of the baccarat score , and he found something others did not found before him , something that occurs in majority of shoes that's it.
Definitly his system work very well and i say that because it's the truth ,
If you don't like him/his Strategy don't click on his thread to trashtalk , i know this is a forum and that you have the right to say whatever you want but please stop with the harassment
And the people who have bought this strategy please come back to this thread for your review ;)
Andre , Les chiens aboient et la caravane passe ;)
PS : if someone respond to me , i will not bother to respond to them , i am not here to play a childish /Fake psychological game
with the trolls here. And for all the trolls here my response : link:s://:.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Quote from: AndyCasinoK on Aug 03, 09:35 PM 2018
Andre , Les chiens aboient et la caravane passe ;)
Mais chien qui jappe ne mord jamais.
No real harm can be done...
Quote from: Andre Chass on Aug 03, 06:04 AM 2018
Double Attack©
Limited-time offer only this weekend.
$50 USD
Questions:
doubleattack.strategy@gmail.com
Wasn’t this offer 50$ valid for only one week. ?
:xd:
As the saying goes Don't knock it till you've tried it >:D
This system is probably worth $5k. The man is doing everyone on this forum a favour
Thank you, Andre !!!!
Sturrock
You have been around a looooongggg time
You should know a Marty on an even chance bet will fail
I wish you good luck and winnings
GHOST Yes a long long time. And yes it probably will fail at sometime But if you keep to the stop loss I think you would be way ahead when it does go BANG!!!
We shall see, I think it is defiantly one of the better ones out there. Really worth ago??? YES
I am not bashing the original poster in the way people think i am
this is a martingale on baccarat after a trigger
why would I pay for that?
i can mess around with past shoes and make my own trigger with a marty
it is not original
but I wish you all success and winnings
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Aug 04, 10:51 AM 2018
Sturrock
You have been around a looooongggg time
You should know a Marty on an even chance bet will fail
I wish you good luck and winnings
I guess the HG of ....forgot his name but he used the word parrot a lot.....failled :xd: Chris? Pfff cant remember
Doesn’t look good.
Any suggestions?
Quote from: Kan@am@ on Aug 04, 02:40 PM 2018
Any suggestions?
See here!
link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=20660.msg207722#msg207722
Quote from: AndyCasinoK on Aug 03, 09:35 PM 2018
Hi Andre , i think this video resume your situation in this forum ;) enjoy
link:s://:.youtube.com/watch?v=2A2kKm9gYdg
They are proven scammers in this forum , but nobody wants to bother them , i got scammed in this forum and i am not the only one ...
but for some peoples Andre seems to be an easy target ... i don't understand why ... his strategy his working well he is using the main road view of the baccarat score , and he found something others did not found before him , something that occurs in majority of shoes that's it.
Definitly his system work very well and i say that because it's the truth ,
If you don't like him/his Strategy don't click on his thread to trashtalk , i know this is a forum and that you have the right to say whatever you want but please stop with the harassment
And the people who have bought this strategy please come back to this thread for your review ;)
Andre , Les chiens aboient et la caravane passe ;)
PS : if someone respond to me , i will not bother to respond to them , i am not here to play a childish /Fake psychological game
with the trolls here. And for all the trolls here my response : link:s://:.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Thank you Andy!
Unfortunately I have some haters here in the forum. I don't know why. When I became a member of this forum my intention was to make friends and not enemies.
Life is too short for that.
Cheers
man up
you have some haters because you are selling a martingale strategy
its no better than many methods on this forum
i can also create a cute little trigger with a 3 step marty
maybe ill sell it to
Quote from: sturrock on Aug 04, 10:23 AM 2018
As the saying goes Don't knock it till you've tried it >:D
This system is probably worth $5k. The man is doing everyone on this forum a favour
Thank you, Andre !!!!
Hi sturroock
You're welcome!
I'm happy for your positive comments. I appreciate it!
I hope the strategy is helping you making profit.
Cheers
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Aug 04, 04:37 PM 2018
you have some haters because you are selling a martingale strategy
Please read the thread again. It works flatbetting too.
Quote from: sturrock on Aug 04, 11:33 AM 2018
GHOST Yes a long long time. And yes it probably will fail at sometime But if you keep to the stop loss I think you would be way ahead when it does go BANG!!!
We shall see, I think it is defiantly one of the better ones out there. Really worth ago??? YES
Again, I'm very happy on your positive comments.
Feel free to contact me if you have any questions or to talk about baccarat.
Cheers
Try my others strategies for free.
link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=20164.0
Thank you all!
link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=20480.0
Double Attack ©
Flatbetting 1 1 1 1
Here the numbers requested:
regarding the DA test, playing as per original rules but with 1,1,1,1 prog
these are the results:
test 2)
W 1st. 25. +25
W 2nd. 7. 0
W 3rd. 6. -6
W 4th. 2. -4
busted. 0
total +15
***The results were sent by a forum member.
You can try the strategy betting with no trigger too.
Quote from: Andre Chass on Aug 03, 05:43 PM 2018
You can try the Double Attack@ strategy playing without the trigger. See the results.
the numbers arrive by this: 200 shoes tested, 40 played;
this means 160 wins played without the trigger.
in the remaining 40 shoes, these played, we won 25 times at first attempt (after the trigger)
and we arrive at 160+25=185
deploying a 3 steps marty we would have won 185 units
in the rest of cases, winning at 2nd (7 times), 3rd (6times) and 4th (2 times) total of 15, we would have lost the marty of -7 so -7 x 15 = 105 units lost
185 won less 105 lost = +80 units
the 3 steps marty would be busted only 8% of the times playing with no trigger.
You win more than you lose. That's the goal of the strategy. The are no strategies that you will win every session.
With trigger, without trigger, flatbetting, using progression, etc.
You can adapt the original strategy according to your playing style.
Quote from: Andre Chass on Aug 04, 05:29 PM 2018
You win more than you lose. That's the goal of the strategy. The are no strategies that you will win every session.
Even using computers. Steve knows that.
The last thing I’d do is invite Steve into a thread where I was selling a 3 step Marty on an EC bet
Quote from: Andre Chass on Aug 04, 05:29 PM 2018
You win more than you lose. That's the goal of the strategy.
Thats exactly called HG. Different wording doesnt allow it to pass through the hole.
I'll no longer try to defend the strategy.
If you don't like it or don't like me just leave this thread.
I have nothing against nobody here in this forum.
I wish a day we be friends and meet you guys to talk about casino games and have some beers.
A great weekend to all!
Quote from: Andre Chass on Aug 04, 05:58 PM 2018
I'll no longer try to defend the strategy.
If you don't like it or don't like me just leave this thread
U could leave the forum if u dont like to be challanged. Again the forum is not ur private property. U started a thread doent means that its ur family backyard . Keep the standard or dont come here
Today
4 sessions played 4 sessions won
Second step
Second step
First step
Third step
Total profit $200 8)
This is a dream come true!
No more boss, no more wake up early, no more boring.... 8)
But why are you still here in this forum?
Because I have to say that it's possible! There's a way to beat the casinos. ^-^
Don't you believe me? I don't give it a crap! >:D
I'll no longer stay here anymore. I will no longer sell the Double Attack strategy.
I'll be in Vegas at the end of the year.
And to all my haters ... F ****
I'm 47 and, no wife, no children. I have better things to do.
Girls, beers and rock and roll. This is what I had this Saturday night!
All I had to say to my haters is kiss my ass!
Now I'll have some more beers and my girl is waiting for me.
Regards
link:s://youtu.be/X9FyQNx8oyU
8)
Quote from: Andre Chass on Aug 05, 05:34 AM 2018
Today
4 sessions played 4 sessions won
Second step
Second step
First step
Third step
Total profit $200 8)
This is a dream come true!
No more boss, no more wake up early, no more boring.... 8)
But why are you still here in this forum?
Because I have to say that it's possible! There's a way to beat the casinos. ^-^
Don't you believe me? I don't give it a crap! >:D
I'll no longer stay here anymore. I will no longer sell the Double Attack strategy.
I'll be in Vegas at the end of the year.
And to all my haters ... F ****
I'm 47 and, no wife, no children. I have better things to do.
Girls, beers and rock and roll. This is what I had this Saturday night!
All I had to say to my haters is kiss my ass!
Now I'll have some more beers and my girl is waiting for me.
Regards
All the best Andre.Just have 3 times bankroll at least and you will be fine.
I wish well for everyone
I hope you continue to win
I believe this can be called “The End of The HGâ€.The very next shoe run out of bets after 3 consecutive loses.Looks like even 3 bankrolls is not enough.I am glad I used 5$ units for the test.
even if you found a "bust" for D.A., this doesn't mean that it's not a winner
as AC always said, the important thing is that it wins more than it loses
I tested 400 shoes and busted 2 times and? I won A LOT more than lost
this is it
Quote from: andrebac on Aug 06, 01:03 AM 2018
even if you found a "bust" for D.A., this doesn't mean that it's not a winner
as AC always said, the important thing is that it wins more than it loses
I tested 400 shoes and busted 2 times and? I won A LOT more than lost
this is it
Hi Andrebac,
Glad to hear that. What MM did you use in testing? Is it flat betting only (1111).
Thanks.
Quote from: Kan@am@ on Aug 05, 11:40 PM 2018
I believe this can be called “The End of The HGâ€.The very next shoe run out of bets after 3 consecutive loses.Looks like even 3 bankrolls is not enough.I am glad I used 5$ units for the test.
In defense of OP.....I don’t think he claimed HG
However packaging a martingale with a trigger and putting for sale is suspect.
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Aug 06, 07:51 AM 2018However packaging a martingale with a trigger and putting for sale is suspect.
There is nothing - I had a really fine accident - many years ago one mine slightly familiar guy started such talk that I play in old style, that are now new ways which are much better than old. ( here all is about VB ) Of course, for me, that becomes very interesting - which there can be a new way, maybe really something worth.
But that guy said that he cant gave that for free because that is very secret material. I do not remember which was price, but near a hundred... Because I still never pay for anybody I do not keep such information in the head and that was long ago. Finally, that guy somehow sends me that material for free.
You even not imagine, how was a big wonder, when I got my own material :)...
So i almost bought method, which I created himself :)
Again
There are no STRATEGIES that win all the sessions played
A winning strategy you will win more than lose.
Even using computers you will lose some sessions.
Any questions, please contact me
doubleattack.strategy@gmail.com
Double Attack © all rights reserved. Sharing or selling is prohibited.
I'm receiving a lot of emails. I'm trying to answer all the emails.
PLEASE BE PATIENT.
I'm not at home now. I'm writing by my cell phone. If you think I'm a scammer as Rouletteghost says please do not buy the strategy.
I have other things to do and I can not answer all emails immediately.
Please be patient.
I actually defended you in my last post
But since you want to say that then yes.
Selling a martingale is a scam
Anyone can make one that fails sometimes
Tend to your many girls and beer
47 and single no wonder.
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Aug 06, 11:50 AM 2018
I actually defended you in my last post
But since you want to say that then yes.
Selling a martingale is a scam
Anyone can make one that fails sometimes
Tend to your many girls and beer
47 and single no wonder.
It's none of yoyu business.
I've been married for 12 years and currently I'm just dating.
I will no longer respond to your personal attacks. Do something good in life instead of coming here and attacking me. But it seems like you have nothing better to do.
I will no longer respond to personal attacks.
I have better things to do.
There's no way I stay in this forum all day trying to defend myself against some mean and stupid people.
He once said he won and never lost and had to play online.
But he has no evidence, such as pictures, bets or playing history.
That is what I am very dissatisfied.
All you have to do is say.
I believe he does not really bet. The longest as claimed. I play for several months.
I believe what he does. He focused on making money from sales.
And as I was a member. I would like him to show proof of all betting history, making money on bets if you do not.
I should not have scam in this forum.
I say the truth from the purchase many times, I say this is a scam. Because he lied
Wait for this pattern:
B
P
P
B
B
When you see this bet B with a 1 2 4 progression
Sells for $49.99 PayPal ONLY
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Aug 06, 12:44 PM 2018
Wait for this pattern:
B
P
P
B
B
When you see this bet B with a 1 2 4 progression
Sells for $49.99 PayPal ONLY
That's your best you can give? Hahaha
Moderators, could you delete this thread please.
I'll no longer post here.
If you want buying the strategy or you have any questions contact me only by email.
doubleattack.strategy@gmail.com.
If moderators delete the thread then people won’t see how to contact you
You may lose sales.
Anyone having great success with this strategy? Please post here
Quote from: AndyCasinoK on Jul 22, 01:56 PM 2018
I have test his strategy called double Attack , and i did won 8 session without any problem . Congratulation Andre for your method.
it's seem to going well so far , i start to play after some virtual loss as you said in your guidebook , congratulation for your strategy
and for your 3 months work, i trust your method Andre because you are someone who are doing living with baccarat game , and for the moment i am a winner with your method :)
Quote from: Mako on Jul 22, 02:21 PM 2018
Andre provided me with a review copy, and I found the instructions to be clear and the bet selection options to be well laid out. It's a simple method, there isn't anything complicated about it, and it doesn't require any lengthy pencil/paper tracking or other calculations during sessions.
I haven't had a chance to test it for long this morning, but so far it's won on RNG (no losses in first six attempts).
It isn't a grail, but a grail isn't going to cost $75 either. This is something that probably has a winrate around 95-99% when it's applied, we'll see as time passes. So far it delivers what was promised, no complaints.
It might be good Andre if you do a quick screen capture video showing the play in action using an online Bac simulator for buyers, along with some narration, since some learn more quickly that way versus reading through a doc. Luckily this doc is short and well illustrated for those who fit that category.
Knowing his history on the forum, I can tell that Andre is playing it himself for sure, there's no doubt in my mind based on the type of play that it is. He loves these sorts of methods and I believe he's using it as his sole playing mechanic on a daily basis with actual money.
With things like this I tend to judge the present, not the past. It's valid to point out previous forum behavior, previous statements, and previous actions (good or bad), when a member attempts to sell a system. I have no problem with that, provided it's done in a non-personal way.
But for myself, I tend to evaluate a system/method itself independently of that creator's past, simply because the system itself is either going to stand on it's own or fail on it's own. "Does it win" is the only thing I care about in this sort of situation.
I like this particular method so far, and am going to set aside more time this week to actually try and break it with a fail, just to get an idea how often that may be.
Quote from: ahlidap on Jul 22, 04:57 PM 2018
Hi,
I have this one, but I did not had the time to play with it this weekend.
All I can say is that it's simple, and not much waiting time (at least playing on net).
Just a suggestion for those who have this:
consider just a two step progression:
1 loose
2 loose
back to 1 then....
;)
Obrigado Andre
Quote from: Andre Chass on Jul 23, 05:25 PM 2018
"...They don't know how your strategy works. This is something a professional baccarat player is looking for. This is the only way you can stay disciplined and that you can meet your daily winning goal.
I understand how to make a bet on your strategy now. I will use it along with my other strategies.
Best of luck and thank you for your your hard work and sharing it with me (us)."
- A very kindly player that purchased the strategy
Quote from: Mako on Jul 24, 02:02 PM 2018
Andre is right, and he's said it before, I've gone through 100 shoes now with 34 bets that qualified placed, and all have won.
Highest progression: a single L4 bet (8u), won, and that seems to be a nice stoploss position if it had lost as it's relatively easy to make up that many units if it ever misses.
But one thing that's critical is not betting that shoe unless there were 2 virtual losses to start the shoe.
You can't play this if there was a virtual win, then 2 virtual losses after, because it puts time pressure on the shoe (running out of hands before the strike, new shoe, unknown circumstances). Don't be tempted out of boredom... :twisted:
PS - LOL RB :xd:
Quote from: Andre Chass on Jul 30, 09:55 PM 2018
Double Attack©
A friend here in the forum emailed me and sent me this analysis:
"I tested 200 more shoes from my personal played shoes record at 888 casino, online with live player hand shuffled, below the results:
Shoes analyzed 200 to get 40 playable attacks, as per your rules (2 virtual losses)
Wins at 1st attempt. 25
2nd. 7
3rd. 6
4th. 2
Busted. ="
He's being very kind doing more tests to make sure the strategy is a winner. Maybe a little change in the strategy will be made in the future.
Quote from: Andre Chass on Aug 02, 07:11 AM 2018
Double Attack ©
Flatbetting 1 1 1 1
Here the numbers requested:
regarding the DA test, playing as per original rules but with 1,1,1,1 prog
these are the results:
test 2)
W 1st. 25. +25
W 2nd. 7. 0
W 3rd. 6. -6
W 4th. 2. -4
busted. 0
total +15
***The results were sent by a forum member.
Quote from: AndyCasinoK on Aug 03, 09:35 PM 2018
Hi Andre , i think this video resume your situation in this forum ;) enjoy
link:s://:.youtube.com/watch?v=2A2kKm9gYdg
They are proven scammers in this forum , but nobody wants to bother them , i got scammed in this forum and i am not the only one ...
but for some peoples Andre seems to be an easy target ... i don't understand why ... his strategy his working well he is using the main road view of the baccarat score , and he found something others did not found before him , something that occurs in majority of shoes that's it.
Definitly his system work very well and i say that because it's the truth ,
If you don't like him/his Strategy don't click on his thread to trashtalk , i know this is a forum and that you have the right to say whatever you want but please stop with the harassment
And the people who have bought this strategy please come back to this thread for your review ;)
Andre , Les chiens aboient et la caravane passe ;)
PS : if someone respond to me , i will not bother to respond to them , i am not here to play a childish /Fake psychological game
with the trolls here. And for all the trolls here my response : link:s://:.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Quote from: sturrock on Aug 04, 10:23 AM 2018
As the saying goes Don't knock it till you've tried it >:D
This system is probably worth $5k. The man is doing everyone on this forum a favour
Thank you, Andre !!!!
Quote from: sturrock on Aug 04, 11:33 AM 2018
GHOST Yes a long long time. And yes it probably will fail at sometime But if you keep to the stop loss I think you would be way ahead when it does go BANG!!!
We shall see, I think it is defiantly one of the better ones out there. Really worth ago??? YES
Quote from: andrebac on Aug 06, 01:03 AM 2018
even if you found a "bust" for D.A., this doesn't mean that it's not a winner
as AC always said, the important thing is that it wins more than it loses
I tested 400 shoes and busted 2 times and? I won A LOT more than lost
this is it
Enough said.
I'll no longer respond personal attacks.
I'll no longer selling the strategy here in this forum.
I'm selling the strategy by YouTube and it's going pretty well.
link:s://youtu.be/ZFmYOLujcek
I'm tired and sick of some people here in this forum. I worked hard to create the strategy and a all I wanted was to help people providing an efficient strategy and be recognized and rewarded by my effort.
I don't have time for bullshit. I have a life.
Thanks to all my friends in this forum that believe in me.
Cheers
Quote from: Andre Chass on Aug 06, 04:30 PM 2018
Enough said.
I'll no longer respond personal attacks.
I'll no longer selling the strategy here in this forum.
I'm selling the strategy by YouTube and it's going pretty well.
link:s://youtu.be/ZFmYOLujcek
I'm tired and sick of some people here in this forum. I worked hard to create the strategy and a all I wanted was to help people providing an efficient strategy and be recognized and rewarded by my effort.
I don't have time for bullshit. I have a life.
Thanks to all my friends in this forum that believe in me.
Cheers
if I will not have refund ,than expect your system to show up on YouTube.This way everyone will have a chance to try not to loose ,in contre to my case, before they decide to pay you anything.Good luck.
Forgot to mention.
2 sessions = -21 units.
Let me give you a little dose of perspective
Every now and then a cold glass of perspective is just what the doctor ordered
A year ago you were a newbie looking for methods. Now a year later you are a pro system seller?
You aren’t here to help. You are here to profit off other gamblers
GLC, twocatsam, proof(for years) , ignatus, buff and countless others who I don’t have time to mention created methods with triggers and progressions and never asked for a cent. It was to better the forum and brainstorm ideas
Then you come along. All you newbies and your secrets and private messages and system selling motives. Go away.
If you don’t want to get slapped around don’t be so foolish
At least John legend described his strategies in detail :xd:
This forum DOES NOT NEED system selling newbies. What it needs is to get its GLC like posters back. Who aren’t dimwits.
There is your perspective. Now go sell your rubbish on YouTube.
Also, let me mention this
If you posted your method you would have a dozen forum members testing it
People would be looking at tweaks and ways to improve it
People might find something you missed
That’s why I post my methods even if they are stupid. Something may click for someone that I missed
When grassroots was mentioned many members made their own versions and posted it
It’s the point of the forum
You started off OK and then this
Look in the mirror
To think that you are going to sell a method and then NOT have people criticize it that have a loss is nothing less then stupidity
Wake up partner
The brainstorming, discussion, and tweaks that we would have made would have been worth more than $75 a pop
But you are looking for a quick pay day. Nothing wrong with that. But don’t be a douche.
Quote from: Kan@am@ on Aug 06, 04:35 PM 2018
if I will not have refund ,than expect your system to show up on YouTube.This way everyone will have a chance to try not to loose ,in contre to my case, before they decide to pay you anything.Good luck.
I'm getting a lot of criticism about the strategy and I accept that. Everyone in this forum has the right to question. But you are threatening me. You say you will reveal the strategy if I do not refund you. You took the risk of buying strategy. If you did not like it, if the strategy don't fit your play style, I'm sorry but you took the risk.
If you reveal the strategy you will be disrespecting everyone who has bought it.
Double Attack © ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. SHARING IT OR SELLING IT IS PROOIBITED.
Mr goldrosen and my friend Mr doctorsudoku
I'll send you a copy of the strategy for free.
All I ask you is not to share it
Email me
doubleattack.strategy@gmail.com
I think you need to form a company and have in the terms and conditions that the strategy can’t be shared in order to take legal action
Even if a poster modified it a tiny bit they can legally share it
Tread lightly.
A slight modification and it’s not the strategy that was paid for
Now you are pissing me off and that is not a good thing
Quote from: Andre Chass on Aug 06, 07:03 PM 2018
Mr goldrosen and my friend Mr doctorsudoku
I'll send you a copy of the strategy for free.
All I ask you is not to share it
Email me
doubleattack.strategy@gmail.com
tomorrow everyone will have it for free .what a big deal about all that conspiracy.
.
Quote from: Andre Chass on Aug 06, 06:55 PM 2018
Double Attack © ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. SHARING IT OR SELLING IT IS PROOIBITED.
you claim that 15 units bankroll is sufficient .Its not .Therefore you selling not a system, but scam.What copyrights are you talking about?
Quote from: Kan@am@ on Aug 06, 07:19 PM 2018
you claim that 15 units bankroll is sufficient .Its not .Therefore you selling not a system, but scam.What copyrights are you talking about?
Don’t worry about it
I doubt he went through the steps of registering for copyright
Even if he did, this is a roulette system we are talking about. Any slight modification will make it different then the copyrighted material anyways
It’s a Marty packaged up as a system for sale
Look. I’m only bashing the guys because of how this came out
If he shared his method and let others improve or test it like everyone else here does I’d say you know what this guy is pretty cool
A year goes by. He gets no CWB. So he looks to sell to make money
He has no recourse. Share away.
If the method had merit he wouldn’t care.
He would just goto the casino and make money
Let’s say he copyrighted it. You tweak it slightly and it’s different. Case closed. What a clown.
Kimo li is another idiot clown. Threatened me for sharing a google image. Try to sue me kimo. I beg you. The judge would laugh.
Here’s to forum traffic >:D
I only just noticed what's happening here.
Copyrighted material doesn't need registration. Any copyrighted material published here will be removed.
The matter of refunds etc is between the buyer and seller. Im not a judge of the system and whether or not it works, is a scam or whatever.
Fair use allows limited use of copyrighted material without permission from the copyright holder for purposes such as criticism, parody, news reporting, research and scholarship, and teaching.
In the court of law taking a system that is copyrighted, making changes to it and releasing it as your own version could certainly fall under fair use.
Making a tweak to copyrighted material and improving it. Then showing it to the public would be considered FAIR use as the original copy was not distributed
Five Considerations Regarding "Fair Use"
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Rule 1: Are You Creating Something New or Just Copying?
The purpose and character of your intended use of the material involved is the single most important factor in determining whether a use is fair under U.S. copyright law. The question to ask here is whether you are merely copying someone else's work verbatim or instead using it to help create something new.
Quote from: Steve on Aug 06, 07:56 PM 2018
I only just noticed what's happening here.
Copyrighted material doesn't need registration. Any copyrighted material published here will be removed.
The matter of refunds etc is between the buyer and seller. Im not a judge of the system and whether or not it works, is a scam or whatever.
Do u have any proof that its has cooyright? Or just his word.
Anyway is it the place to sale or there is a section? Didnt u also notice for long time?
Chances are he wouldn’t afford a lawyer to sue
In the small possibility that he did and he actually pursued it any one of us would Win with “fair useâ€
Like I said. Release a version of your own
Screw this guy.
Threaten copyright like kimo dick did and it kisses me off.
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Aug 06, 08:00 PM 2018
Fair use allows limited use of copyrighted material without permission from the copyright holder for purposes such as criticism, parody, news reporting, research and scholarship, and teaching.
In the court of law taking a system that is copyrighted, making changes to it and releasing it as your own version could certainly fall under fair use.
Generally true, except in a case where someone is clearly threatening to publish it. If the material was published as it was received, and it went to court, Andre would win. But win what? The sale price is low, and he would have to establish lost revenue. It just wouldnt be worth anyone's time to bother with legal action.
Releasing a principle or process (system) is protected by Intellectual Property laws. Merely changing a few things doesnt protect the person unlawfully sharing it. The ramifications are much the same as copyright law. I know the laws behind it quite well, but in the end with everything considered, nothing is going to happen if Andres strategy is shared.
Anyway I dont see the legal side of it as an issue. It's more a moral side.
RG you criticize his method, but you give credit to strategies that are probably no better. The fact that this strategy is being sold does not change that.
Quote from: Madi on Aug 06, 08:08 PM 2018Do u have any proof that its has cooyright? Or just his word.
Madi, copyrights dont need registration. That's just a formality. It may vary between jurisdictions, but last i checked there was an international treaty for it.
But again this is not really a matter of is it copyrighted. It's more a moral issue.
The way I see it:
1. The strategy probably is no better than most. But it's still intellectual property.
2. The buyer assumed a risk in purchasing. If Andre clearly stated no refunds permitted, then the purchaser should assume the responsibility. If Andre said refunds would be provided, then he should honor that.
3. If the system is an outright scam, then shame on Andre, and shame on the purchaser for believing it. There are tonnes of systems being sold. You will find good and bad feedback for any of them. Still if its a scam, then of course the purchaser should have a refund. So what defines it as a scam? In my view, false promises like "it never loses".
Anyway I'm not a judge of this. I dont know what Andre's description of the system and promises were. Maybe escalate the claim to paypal.
My point Steve is let the scammers cry
They can throw around the word copyright. But fact is it means little when you modify it and share your results
Fair use
Leave it up. Show the forum you allow system sales
But let’s slap him around
Accusing someone of being a scammer is pretty serious.
If he is scamming people, then he deserves flak. But if he isn't scamming people and you're busting his balls, then you would be the problem. I try to steer away from judging because accurate judging would require all the facts from both sides. And besides I dont have time for it. Unfortunately though, I'm forced in the middle because I dont want to allow scamming, and I dont want to allow unjust attacks.
It would be simpler for me to say: if you're going to buy something like a gambling system, approach with extreme skepticism. And don't be surprised if the system doesn't work. It's the buyer's risk. Don't send money then complain about it later. It's your own fault for sending money.
As far as i'm aware, Andre has both good and bad feedback. Just like you get good and bad feedback when someone here tries a new system of any kind, free or not. There are winners and losers even with random bets. It doesn't mean the system works.
I don't want to allow scamming if its very clear. I want to allow people to sell, but not if its a blatant scam. Buyers should also be responsible.
So please summarize exactly why you believe he is scamming. Specifically quote his exact words, to show he falsely represented his product. If you arent going to substantiate your allegations clearly, then please stop attacking Andre.
I've been on the receiving side of unjust criticism. And I've been scammed before too. So I understand both sides. I'm trying to better understand what's really happening, so I know what is fair or not from a moderation perspective.
its not so much of an issue of him scamming
its an issue that he is selling a product that is in line with many system people share for free
its an issue of him (one year ago) being a newbie and asking others to share methods with him
this is not a forum member
this is someone looking to profit off other member since day one...he waited a year...
like i said, i think you should leave it up...but we are gonna slap him around
i use proofreaders as an example...why? because we know what we get...no false claims...hes been around for years...that is fine...this guy is just looking to use us
THANKS STEVE!
KAN@AM@
You took the risk of buying strategy. If you did not like it, if the strategy don't fit your play style, I'm sorry but you took the risk.
If you reveal the strategy you will be disrespecting everyone who has bought it.
I'm providing an efficient strategy.
It took months of study so I could create the strategy.
If you share it you are disrespecting me and disrespecting all the players who has purchased it.
Again, I'm not a scammer! I'm providing an efficient strategy.
DOUBLE ATTACK© ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. SHARING OR SELLING IT IS PROHIBITED.
Quote from: Andre Chass on Aug 06, 07:03 PM 2018
Mr goldrosen and my friend Mr doctorsudoku
I'll send you a copy of the strategy for free.
All I ask you is not to share it
Email me
doubleattack.strategy@gmail.com
THANK YOU SO MUCH ANDRE!
I promised you I won't share it to anyone, I have sent you an email too. =)
Looking forward to hearing from you soon.
Arigato Gozaimasu!
Goldrosen
Quote from: sturrock on Aug 04, 10:23 AM 2018
As the saying goes Don't knock it till you've tried it >:D
This system is probably worth $5k. The man is doing everyone on this forum a favour
Thank you, Andre !!!!
Am I a scammer?
Quote from: andrebac on Aug 06, 01:03 AM 2018
even if you found a "bust" for D.A., this doesn't mean that it's not a winner
as AC always said, the important thing is that it wins more than it loses
I tested 400 shoes and busted 2 times and? I won A LOT more than lost
this is it
Am I a scammer?
DOUBLE ATTACK© ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. SHARING OR SELLING IT IS PROHIBITED.
Quote from: goldrosen on Aug 06, 08:59 PM 2018
THANK YOU SO MUCH ANDRE!
I promised you I won't share it to anyone, I have sent you an email too. =)
Looking forward to hearing from you soon.
Arigato Gozaimasu!
Goldrosen
look at you
"watched"
i knew when you attacked me awhile ago there was a reason
Quote from: Steve on Aug 06, 08:19 PM 2018
Generally true, except in a case where someone is clearly threatening to publish it. If the material was published as it was received, and it went to court, Andre would win. But win what? The sale price is low, and he would have to establish lost revenue. It just wouldnt be worth anyone's time to bother with legal action.
Releasing a principle or process (system) is protected by Intellectual Property laws. Merely changing a few things doesnt protect the person unlawfully sharing it. The ramifications are much the same as copyright law. I know the laws behind it quite well, but in the end with everything considered, nothing is going to happen if Andres strategy is shared.
Anyway I dont see the legal side of it as an issue. It's more a moral side.
RG you criticize his method, but you give credit to strategies that are probably no better. The fact that this strategy is being sold does not change that.
Madi, copyrights dont need registration. That's just a formality. It may vary between jurisdictions, but last i checked there was an international treaty for it.
But again this is not really a matter of is it copyrighted. It's more a moral issue.
The way I see it:
1. The strategy probably is no better than most. But it's still intellectual property.
2. The buyer assumed a risk in purchasing. If Andre clearly stated no refunds permitted, then the purchaser should assume the responsibility. If Andre said refunds would be provided, then he should honor that.
3. If the system is an outright scam, then shame on Andre, and shame on the purchaser for believing it. There are tonnes of systems being sold. You will find good and bad feedback for any of them. Still if its a scam, then of course the purchaser should have a refund. So what defines it as a scam? In my view, false promises like "it never loses".
Anyway I'm not a judge of this. I dont know what Andre's description of the system and promises were. Maybe escalate the claim to paypal.
This is Andres claims from this forum.I am -21 units after 2 sessions.
Hi,
Yes just 15 units
The wait for the trigger is not long. It can take about 5 to 20 minutes to play in online casinos and trackind more than one table
A lot of people asking me the win rate.
100%
I will said it again. I never lose playing the strategy.
I have no reason to lie.
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Aug 06, 08:41 PM 2018its not so much of an issue of him scamming
its an issue that he is selling a product that is in line with many system people share for free
Thats not scamming. And there are clearly people saying they are happy with the strategy. Understand I'm not taking sides here. I'm just trying to maintain the balance.
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Aug 06, 08:41 PM 2018its an issue of him (one year ago) being a newbie and asking others to share methods with him
I understand your points, but those alone don't justify calling someone a scammer.
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Aug 06, 08:41 PM 2018this is not a forum member
this is someone looking to profit off other member since day one...he waited a year...
Selling is allowed. the only exceptions are if they are spilling sales material into areas outside the sales section, or if there is clearly more negative than positive feedback, indicating it may be a scam.
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Aug 06, 08:41 PM 2018like i said, i think you should leave it up...but we are gonna slap him around
You can give justified criticism, but not troll him.
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Aug 06, 08:41 PM 2018i use proofreaders as an example...why? because we know what we get...no false claims...hes been around for years...that is fine...this guy is just looking to use us
Has proof ever sold or advertised a strategy? It would be ok if he did anyway.
I asked you to explain what Andre's false claims are, that would justify calling him a scammer. You didnt provide that information. So I have nothing that indicates he's a scammer, or that he would need to be banned or moderated in any way.
I get your points RG really but understand my position and needing to be Switzerland.
Quote from: Kan@am@ on Aug 06, 10:06 PM 2018This is Andres claims from this forum.I am -21 units after 2 sessions.
-21 units after 2 sessions is not a fair test, unless he claimed to win every session.
Quote from: Kan@am@ on Aug 06, 10:06 PM 2018Hi,
Yes just 15 units
The wait for the trigger is not long. It can take about 5 to 20 minutes to play in online casinos and trackind more than one table
A lot of people asking me the win rate.
100%
I will said it again. I never lose playing the strategy.
I have no reason to lie.
Is this what he actually said? Please show exactly where it was said.
Page 2
otherwise I will not buy it.
Quote from: Andre Chass on Aug 06, 08:57 PM 2018
THANKS STEVE!
KAN@AM@
You took the risk of buying strategy. If you did not like it, if the strategy don't fit your play style, I'm sorry but you took the risk.
If you reveal the strategy you will be disrespecting everyone who has bought it.
I'm providing an efficient strategy.
It took months of study so I could create the strategy.
If you share it you are disrespecting me and disrespecting all the players who has purchased it.
Again, I'm not a scammer! I'm providing an efficient strategy.
DOUBLE ATTACK© ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. SHARING OR SELLING IT IS PROHIBITED.
I didn't took any risk.I have purchased system with 100% win rate with 15 units bankroll.
A lot of people asking me the win rate.
100%
In my understanding win rate 100% is that I win more than I lose.
I will said it again. I never lose playing the strategy.
I meant that I never lost any money playing the strategy. I always win more than I lose.
and English is not my first language...
I'm very tired trying to defend myself.
I'll not argue anymore.
If you want purchasing the strategy, ok! If you don't want to, ok too!
I want to be banished from here.
STEVE, PLEASE DO IT FOR ME!
But first I want to say that I made many friends here that support my work and believe in me... and I would like to keep in touch.
I'm very tired.
It was a mistake trying to sell my strategy here. There a lot of sick people here. It's an hostile place to be.
Steve, ban me, please
please refund first.
I'll say it again
No one here knows anything about my life. First of all, I'm currently financially well. I had some financial difficulties in the past and I think most people have already had some financial difficulty at some point in their lives. I also made some strategy mistakes playing roulette in the past.
I am providing an efficient strategy. Not for free because I worked hard and spent sleepless nights studying the baccarat game to create the strategy. That's why I deserve to be rewarded for my effort. I'm not asking anyone to buy it. I am providing an opportunity to the people get good profits using the strategy. If people want to buy the strategy, great! If you do not want to, great too! I'm not a scammer or something like that. I have a reputation to watch over. I have my family and my friends. I am respected by all of them. Everyone is looking for an efficient strategy here in this forum and all we find are guessing threads.
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Aug 06, 08:41 PM 2018
this is not a forum member
this is someone looking to profit off other member since day one...he waited a year...
We all know this from day1
U r a fool to miss this
I need some sleep now.
If you want to have a friend to talk about baccarat, just email me.
When I wake up I want to be banned from this forum. Do it for me Steve!
I just tried to say that is possible beat casinos.
Thank you all!
Quote from: Andre Chass on Aug 06, 10:38 PM 2018
I'm very tired trying to defend myself.
I'll not argue anymore.
If you want purchasing the strategy, ok! If you don't want to, ok too!
I want to be banished from here.
STEVE, PLEASE DO IT FOR ME!
But first I want to say that I made many friends here that support my work and believe in me... and I would like to keep in touch.
I'm very tired.
It was a mistake trying to sell my strategy here. There a lot of sick people here. It's an hostile place to be.
Steve, ban me, please
This wont happen, this is a blatant lie in my opinon
U will still be here
Look below my post😂
If you are claiming to never lose, and someone purchased based on that claim, and they are not winning 100% of the time, then if I were to judge the situation I'd say a refund is justified. But at the same time, the purchaser should have known better.
Andre I dont believe in banning anyone upon their request. If you don't want to post here, don't post here.
If you are going to sell a system, expect flak - justified or not. Assuming you're an honest person, you need a proper way to defend yourself, especially when people lie their ass off about you because they're pathetic. In my case, I did things like public demos, giving away free devices and systems for evaluation etc. You will still always get flak one way or another because some people arent interested in the truth - just petty attacks and personal vendetta.
In your case Andre, it's up to you if you want to defend yourself or not. But really you should have expected the flak, especially if you tell people they'll win 100% of the time when it's not the case. Maybe that's your personal experience with your system. Maybe you haven't tested much. Maybe you have and this recent purchaser didnt play correctly. You have to consider how everything looks to people considering everything that happened and you said from the beginning.
If you are going to continue to sell here, you are going to get flak but it's hard for me to justify asking people to cool it when you are telling people they will win 100% of the time.
Quote from: luckyfella on Aug 06, 10:47 PM 2018
We all know this from day1
U r a fool to miss this
I always have a gut feeling when a member has ulterior motives or is a dual poster
First day Andre posted I knew something wasn’t right
The sob stories. Then it escalated
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Aug 06, 10:55 PM 2018
I always have a gut feeling when a member has ulterior motives or is a dual poster
First day Andre posted I knew something wasn’t right
The sob stories. Then it escalated
The worst part are members supporting this activity with their testimonials
This act is distasteful that kills forums
Even worse than OP imho
Quote from: Steve on Aug 06, 10:49 PM 2018
If you are going to continue to sell here, you are going to get flak but it's hard for me to justify asking people to cool it when you are telling people they will win 100% of the time.
I never meant it.
In my understanding win rate 100% is that I win more than I lose.
Anyway, I'll no longer argue anymore.
I'm sick of people who are envious and stupid. Rouletteghost has nothing to do but personal attacks. And he did not even buy the strategy.
I'm done here
Quote from: Steve on Aug 06, 10:49 PM 2018
If you are claiming to never lose, and someone purchased based on that claim, and they are not winning 100% of the time, then if I were to judge the situation I'd say a refund is justified. But at the same time, the purchaser should have known better.
Andre I dont believe in banning anyone upon their request. If you don't want to post here, don't post here.
If you are going to sell a system, expect flak - justified or not. Assuming you're an honest person, you need a proper way to defend yourself, especially when people lie their ass off about you because they're pathetic. In my case, I did things like public demos, giving away free devices and systems for evaluation etc. You will still always get flak one way or another because some people arent interested in the truth - just petty attacks and personal vendetta.
In your case Andre, it's up to you if you want to defend yourself or not. But really you should have expected the flak, especially if you tell people they'll win 100% of the time when it's not the case. Maybe that's your personal experience with your system. Maybe you haven't tested much. Maybe you have and this recent purchaser didnt play correctly. You have to consider how everything looks to people considering everything that happened and you said from the beginning.
If you are going to continue to sell here, you are going to get flak but it's hard for me to justify asking people to cool it when you are telling people they will win 100% of the time.
I have provided 2 pics with 2 bust shoes.No one argued with my way of playing.and 1 bust means minus 1 bankroll .
It takes a few minutes to confirm my opinion to a fact :xd:
Well, I'm leaving this forum. At least for some time. I'm very tired.
As I said before I have many friends here that support my work and believe in me.
The Double Attack© strategy received a lot of praise.
I want to thank you!
You can try some of my others strategies for free:
link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=20480.0
link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=19666.0
link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=19834.0
If you want purchasing the Double Attack© strategy or just want a friend to talk about baccarat or roulette, email me. It will be a pleasure!
PS: Steve, I always found you the most sensible and intelligent guy in this forum but I never said that. I'm telling you now. You are the man! Take care!
I wish a good luck to all!
God bless you all!
More confirmation😂
More important to remember the friends list
Now we know who they are
Quote from: Andre Chass on Aug 06, 08:57 PM 2018If you share it you are disrespecting me
Respect is earned not given.
IMO you have earned very little or nothing in your time on the forum.
To be fair, as taotie I've probably earned even less respect than you, but then again, I'm not selling any dog shit roulette system to forum members.
Quote from: Andre Chass on Aug 07, 12:00 AM 2018PS: Steve, I always found you the most sensible and intelligent guy in this forum but I never said that. I'm telling you now. You are the man! Take care!
Thanks and all the best to you.
Quote from: Andre Chass on Aug 06, 10:25 PM 2018
A lot of people asking me the win rate.
100%
English is not my first language either but you should have stayed away from using 100% win rate.
PS: I am not attacking you. I bought your strategy, unfortunately is not a winner (at least for me)
-waiting
-trigger
-progression
Those three points make it a newbie rookie system from someone in the game a year
This is something you share for people to test for free. Not to sell
What a waste of time and money.
I don’t care that you and sleepless nights. We all have. And we shared our shit.
I will disappoint everyone who is waiting for Andres system in its original form(I presume it will be removed as soon it appears), but I will present system called "Tripple assault".Modified and Safer version of "Double attack".
Different Name,different way of betting ,different progression.
Fair use.
Rg a judge is not so dumb that they wouldnt see the intent of the purchaser in this case is to coerce andre with threats. Its not fair use. You cant use fair use as an excuse. Even if fair use did apply, there is still intellectual property
Please stop encouraging breaking forum rules.
Than he have to make a refund to these who keep loosing, because he sold his product based on false advertisement.
Quote from: Steve on Aug 07, 06:44 PM 2018
Rg a judge is not so dumb that they wouldnt see the intent of the purchaser in this case is to coerce andre with threats. Its not fair use. You cant use fair use as an excuse. Even if fair use did apply, there is still intellectual property
Please stop encouraging breaking forum rules.
Is there a special section for sale? If yes why it is still here?
Win rate 100% and “win more than lose†smells like HG. Dont u think that its fully fake?
Why u r so worried to protect the seller who is selling fake ?
I don’t have a problem wth system sellers per se
I just feel the need to call out someone with bad intentions
If you read his first posts from a year ago it’s clear
He was paving the way to take advantage of everyone here
Play the sob story card, then work up to this
Not here to help. Here to profit
I know people agree with me
And Steve you know deep down if I buy a book, and I am inspired to write my own book, that is LEGAL
How many poor fellas got duped with this so called 100% no lose system?
Guys that are asking for a refund don't deserve one in the first place. If you are so dumb and couldn't smell this from a mile away that this wasn't right.
I've posted numerous times that he is not okay. Now that he's got his cash he wants to get "banned"? Seems like the easy way out.
Have to agree with RG this time, we don't care about you being tired, not enough sleep or forgot to feed your goldfish. Just stop the lies and scams.
When you get called out suddenly English is not your native tongue? You didn't seem to have any difficulties midway through after spending 4 till 6 months on this forum.
At least Andre gets to fix his knee.
Finally.
Quote from: junscissorhands on Aug 07, 08:47 PM 2018
At least Andre gets to fix his knee.
Finally.
I tried to find that post. Couldn’t
Hit the nail on the head scissor hands.
Quote from: junscissorhands on Aug 07, 08:47 PM 2018
At least Andre gets to fix his knee.
Finally.
:twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
"...They don't know how your strategy works. This is something a professional baccarat player is looking for. This is the only way you can stay disciplined and that you can meet your daily winning goal."
I understand how to make a bet on your strategy now. I will use it along with my other strategies.
Best of luck and thank you for your your hard work and sharing it with me (us).
_____________________________
"Andre is right, and he's said it before, I've gone through 100 shoes now with 34 bets that qualified placed, and all have won.
Highest progression: a single L4 bet (8u), won, and that seems to be a nice stoploss position if it had lost as it's relatively easy to make up that many units if it ever misses.
But one thing that's critical is not betting that shoe unless there were 2 virtual losses to start the shoe.
You can't play this if there was a virtual win, then 2 virtual losses after, because it puts time pressure on the shoe (running out of hands before the strike, new shoe, unknown circumstances)"
____________________
"Double Attack ©
Flatbetting 1 1 1 1
Here the numbers requested:
regarding the DA test, playing as per original rules but with 1,1,1,1 prog
these are the results:
test 2)
W 1st. 25. +25
W 2nd. 7. 0
W 3rd. 6. -6
W 4th. 2. -4
busted. 0
total +15
***The results were sent by a forum member."
________________________
"They are proven scammers in this forum , but nobody wants to bother them , i got scammed in this forum and i am not the only one ...
but for some peoples Andre seems to be an easy target ... i don't understand why ... his strategy his working well he is using the main road view of the baccarat score , and he found something others did not found before him , something that occurs in majority of shoes that's it.
Definitly his system work very well and i say that because it's the truth ,
If you don't like him/his Strategy don't click on his thread to trashtalk , i know this is a forum and that you have the right to say whatever you want but please stop with the harassment"
__________________________
"As the saying goes Don't knock it till you've tried it 
This system is probably worth $5k. The man is doing everyone on this forum a favour
Thank you, Andre !!!!"
_______________________
"GHOST Yes a long long time. And yes it probably will fail at sometime But if you keep to the stop loss I think you would be way ahead when it does go BANG!!!
We shall see, I think it is defiantly one of the better ones out there. Really worth ago??? YES"
____________________
"even if you found a "bust" for D.A., this doesn't mean that it's not a winner
as AC always said, the important thing is that it wins more than it loses
I tested 400 shoes and busted 2 times and? I won A LOT more than lost
this is it"
____________________
"I have test his strategy called double Attack , and i did won 8 session without any problem . Congratulation Andre for your method.
it's seem to going well so far , i start to play after some virtual loss as you said in your guidebook , congratulation for your strategy
and for your 3 months work, i trust your method Andre because you are someone who are doing living with baccarat game , and for the moment i am a winner with your method "
_____________________________
I said I would take some time out of this forum, but I can not handle so many personal attacks.
Yes, the Double Attack strategy wins more than lose. I've never lost money using it. (Eventually I lost a few sessions. There's no strategy that wins every session.) So is 100% win rate because you will win more than you will lose.
If you dont know the strategy then dont give opinion about it. If you bought the strategy and dont know how to use it (Money management) or it does not fit your style of play, I'm sorry but you assumed the risk of buying it. No refund.
I have received a lot of email praising the strategy. The strategy is a winner.
I'm tired of lies about me and tired of haters that don't know anything about me or about the strategy.
I wish all my envious haters would do something better. But all they know is to attack me because they have nothing better to do or provide for this forum.
DOUBLE ATTACK © ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. THIS PRODUCT IS FOR PERSONAL PURPOSE. SHARING OR SELLING IT IS PROHIBITED.
Oh please come on, made up testimonials and a copyright © doesn't make any difference. You can't sugarcoat your lies and scams but not one single person here supports you.
You've made a lot of friends here? John Cena?
People who have been on the roulette forums for years know how this works, and we've seen you from the beginning till now. You can't hide it.
To call you out, ask all your so-called "happy customers" to record voice testimonials and upload them. I will check if they have any fishy accents, incase you ask your mum and dad. Aunts and uncles to voice them for you.
Here is the Triple Assault strategy .
you have to wait for the trigger which will look like that:
bpbpbpbpbpbpbpbpb
b b p b
b b p b
Now you have to bet banker and so on.
progression:
1-2-3-6
Good luck to loose your money.
You are just making it worse and worse. Your testimonials are clearly written by you. The spacing, grammar and writing style is same as yours.
Plus what? You've assumed the risk of buying it so no refund? 100% win rate but you will lose some sessions but you've never lost?
Do you know how to calculate win rates? Is it not better to count sessions like every 100 sessions how many you win or lose? Then you can judge if it's 60 or 70% etc. Batches of 100.
But so everyone viewing this, please beware do not waste anymore money on this scam, share it and do not purchase this crap.
Quote from: junscissorhands on Aug 07, 09:06 PM 2018
You are just making it worse and worse. Your testimonials are clearly written by you. The spacing, grammar and writing style is same as yours.
Plus what? You've assumed the risk of buying it so no refund? 100% win rate but you will lose some sessions but you've never lost?
Do you know how to calculate win rates? Is it not better to count sessions like every 100 sessions how many you win or lose? Then you can judge if it's 60 or 70% etc. Batches of 100.
But so everyone viewing this, please beware do not waste anymore money in this scam, share it and do not purchase this crap.
Read the previous posts and you will find the forum members praised the strategy.
By the wayI thought you were banned from this forum. Hahaha
Andre got into bacaratt because of sentinel's aka johnlegend's pattern breaker thread. Prior to that he knew nothing about baccarat. He basically based his so called system on pattern breaker with elements taken from cht, drsudoku and JL himself. It's basically waiting for certain patterns then bet opposite (similar) which all comes down to fallacy (again) and luck.
Quote from: Kan@am@ on Aug 07, 09:05 PM 2018
Here is the Triple Assault strategy .
you have to wait for the trigger which will look like that:
bpbpbpbpbpbpbpbpb
b b p b
b b p b
Now you have to bet banker and so on.
progression:
1-2-3-6
Good luck to loose your money.
What the hell is this crap? Hahaha
Banned because you as a grown man couldn't defend yourself. I've called you out before and made fun of your mistakes. You've corrected them immediately because you knew I would make you look like a fool.
Now go complain again like a little girl. Never seen such a wuss like you.
Quote from: junscissorhands on Aug 07, 09:10 PM 2018
Andre got into bacaratt because of sentinel's aka johnlegend's pattern breaker thread. Prior to that he knew nothing about baccarat. He basically based his so called system on pattern breaker with elements taken from cht, drsudoku and JL himself. It's basically waiting for certain patterns then bet opposite (similar) which all comes down to fallacy (again) and luck.
Did you purchased the strategy? No?
So you don't know nothing about that.
Shut up. You are a clown
Quote from: junscissorhands on Aug 07, 09:10 PM 2018
Andre got into bacaratt because of sentinel's aka johnlegend's pattern breaker thread. Prior to that he knew nothing about baccarat. He basically based his so called system on pattern breaker with elements taken from cht, drsudoku and JL himself. It's basically waiting for certain patterns then bet opposite (similar) which all comes down to fallacy (again) and luck.
Which is fine
Be part of the forum and share it
Guys like John legend spent hours and hours as well
Then andre wants us to believe he is special.
Hi junscissorhands.
I am testing Vaddis with 8 numbers.Made profit in the cycle not the game, go back to stage 1.
Ah Andre, starting calling names now.
No need to be upset right? Already scammed so many people here and you've got a 100% no lose strategy? :wink:
Well, I own a winner strategy!
Double Attack ©
I'm done here.
Quote from: Andre Chass on Aug 07, 09:12 PM 2018
What the hell is this crap? Hahaha
If author of "Double Attack" acknowledge the fact that it is a crap,therefore it can't be removed.
Quote from: Andre Chass on Aug 07, 09:17 PM 2018
Well, I own a winner strategy!
Double Attack ©
I'm done here.
Sell it ,no refund.Of course its a winning strategy.
Ok good for you, now go fix your knee, raid those casinos and have a nice holiday with your imaginary girlfriend.
That will fix your midlife crisis as well.
Adios Andre.
Why is andre so upset?
He can simply use his winning strategy to go win the money he would have made from selling the system, right?
Quote from: Andre Chass on Aug 07, 08:50 PM 2018
"...They don't know how your strategy works. This is something a professional baccarat player is looking for. This is the only way you can stay disciplined and that you can meet your daily winning goal."
I understand how to make a bet on your strategy now. I will use it along with my other strategies.
Best of luck and thank you for your your hard work and sharing it with me (us).
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"Andre is right, and he's said it before, I've gone through 100 shoes now with 34 bets that qualified placed, and all have won.
Highest progression: a single L4 bet (8u), won, and that seems to be a nice stoploss position if it had lost as it's relatively easy to make up that many units if it ever misses.
But one thing that's critical is not betting that shoe unless there were 2 virtual losses to start the shoe.
You can't play this if there was a virtual win, then 2 virtual losses after, because it puts time pressure on the shoe (running out of hands before the strike, new shoe, unknown circumstances)"
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"Double Attack ©
Flatbetting 1 1 1 1
Here the numbers requested:
regarding the DA test, playing as per original rules but with 1,1,1,1 prog
these are the results:
test 2)
W 1st. 25. +25
W 2nd. 7. 0
W 3rd. 6. -6
W 4th. 2. -4
busted. 0
total +15
***The results were sent by a forum member."
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"They are proven scammers in this forum , but nobody wants to bother them , i got scammed in this forum and i am not the only one ...
but for some peoples Andre seems to be an easy target ... i don't understand why ... his strategy his working well he is using the main road view of the baccarat score , and he found something others did not found before him , something that occurs in majority of shoes that's it.
Definitly his system work very well and i say that because it's the truth ,
If you don't like him/his Strategy don't click on his thread to trashtalk , i know this is a forum and that you have the right to say whatever you want but please stop with the harassment"
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"As the saying goes Don't knock it till you've tried it 
This system is probably worth $5k. The man is doing everyone on this forum a favour
Thank you, Andre !!!!"
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"GHOST Yes a long long time. And yes it probably will fail at sometime But if you keep to the stop loss I think you would be way ahead when it does go BANG!!!
We shall see, I think it is defiantly one of the better ones out there. Really worth ago??? YES"
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"even if you found a "bust" for D.A., this doesn't mean that it's not a winner
as AC always said, the important thing is that it wins more than it loses
I tested 400 shoes and busted 2 times and? I won A LOT more than lost
this is it"
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"I have test his strategy called double Attack , and i did won 8 session without any problem . Congratulation Andre for your method.
it's seem to going well so far , i start to play after some virtual loss as you said in your guidebook , congratulation for your strategy
and for your 3 months work, i trust your method Andre because you are someone who are doing living with baccarat game , and for the moment i am a winner with your method "
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I said I would take some time out of this forum, but I can not handle so many personal attacks.
Yes, the Double Attack strategy wins more than lose. I've never lost money using it. (Eventually I lost a few sessions. There's no strategy that wins every session.) So is 100% win rate because you will win more than you will lose.
If you dont know the strategy then dont give opinion about it. If you bought the strategy and dont know how to use it (Money management) or it does not fit your style of play, I'm sorry but you assumed the risk of buying it. No refund.
I have received a lot of email praising the strategy. The strategy is a winner.
I'm tired of lies about me and tired of haters that don't know anything about me or about the strategy.
I wish all my envious haters would do something better. But all they know is to attack me because they have nothing better to do or provide for this forum.
DOUBLE ATTACK © ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. THIS PRODUCT IS FOR PERSONAL PURPOSE. SHARING OR SELLING IT IS PROHIBITED.
All the testimonials are from previous posts of this thread.
And I receiving a lot more by email.
Good night haters!
It's a winning strategy for Andre, because when he sells it, you buy it, he wins. So it's a 100 percent win rate for Andre and Only Andre, get it? :twisted:
Quote from: junscissorhands on Aug 07, 09:21 PM 2018
It's a winning strategy for Andre, because when he sells it, you buy it, he wins. So it's a 100 percent win rate for Andre and Only Andre, get it? :twisted:
:twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
I think Andre is the only one here that doesn't seem to get it. Stubborn as fuck. It's like talking to a brick wall.
Clearly exposed, but still trying to get the last word in a long lost battle.
Quote from: Andre Chass on Aug 07, 09:21 PM 2018
All the testimonials are from previous posts of this thread.
And I receiving a lot more by email.
Good night haters!
Its just weird when someone selling something that doesn't work.
I thought it might be interesting to test some baccarat system for a win rate .
I got 2 Roulette HGs in my collection.
Both tested for 28.429 spins at 9 tables from Dec 1-14 at Hamburg, Germany, which was the
equivalent of sitting at one table for about 3.5 months
first got win rate of 1 unit profit per 3.96112 spins
second got win rate of 1 unit profit per 4.32051 spins
The third is Vaddis ,but I can't calculate win rate ,because I believe someone must use a system at least 15000 spins to be able to do that.
First got loosing session, second never had a single loosing session.
How different from Anders masterpiece.
I believe nowadays its not even about HG anymore,its about win rate of HD.
Quote from: Kan@am@ on Aug 07, 09:50 PM 2018
Its just weird when someone selling something that doesn't work.
I thought it might be interesting to test some baccarat system for a win rate .
I got 2 Roulette HGs in my collection.
Both tested for 28.429 spins at 9 tables from Dec 1-14 at Hamburg, Germany, which was the
equivalent of sitting at one table for about 3.5 months
first got win rate of 1 unit profit per 3.96112 spins
second got win rate of 1 unit profit per 4.32051 spins
The third is Vaddis ,but I can't calculate win rate ,because I believe someone must use a system at least 15000 spins to be able to do that.
First got loosing session, second never had a single loosing session.
How different from Anders masterpiece.
by the way.second system for EC.
Dumbfark testimonial idiots >:D
Quote from: Andre Chass on Aug 07, 09:21 PM 2018
All the testimonials are from previous posts of this thread.
And I receiving a lot more by email.
Good night haters!
I am opening a case with PayPal fraud department against Andres services ,which he didn't provided.
Anyone who is not satisfied with his system can do the same .This way we will have a better chance to get our money back.He will be branded as dishonest seller and banned from using PayPal services.Or you can still playing until you will bust.
Andre
Take my advice.
Refund the people who request refunds so that they do not report you. You can lose your PayPal account. If you refund you will avoid that
Then guess what? The money you refunded you can goto the casino with your double attack strategy and make it back
Do you think someone who actually plans a scam gives a fuck about his PayPal account?
It's deadeasy to open a new one, new email, new bank account, different address. Or a step further VPN, RDS. Etc.
I'm not a scammer. I'm just selling a Baccarat strategy. And this is allowed in this forum. If I were a scammer I would not provide strategies for free. I contributed a lot in this forum.
I'm sick and tired of being wildly attacked by some people here. I did not do anything wrong in this forum. Please stop with it. I don't have time to it.
link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=20480.0
Andre his not a Scammer at all , you can use his free methods to win money , and if you are consistant winner with his free methods then with his double attack method you will win more often because the trigger is more easier than the Pattern Breaker method. You have to use the main road ( Big Road) score board of the Baccarat , it's more easy than waiting the pattern PBBPBBPBB or BPPBPPBPP .
I got a question for you Andre maybe Doc can help because i use your strategy on the live casino which got the main road so it's easy to follow everything but what if in a real casino i cannot find the Main road ? writing it manually is very easy but what i don't know his sometimes in a Tie Situation they are red Tie and Blue Tie on the score board ? What is the rule of the Red/blue Tie ? maybe the first card with the same score define the red/blue Tie ?
Cheers and thank you very much for your strategy :)
Quote from: AndyCasinoK on Aug 09, 09:43 PM 2018
I got a question for you Andre maybe Doc can help because i use your strategy on the live casino which got the main road so it's easy to follow everything but what if in a real casino i cannot find the Main road ? writing it manually is very easy but what i don't know his sometimes in a Tie Situation they are red Tie and Blue Tie on the score board ? What is the rule of the Red/blue Tie ? maybe the first card with the same score define the red/blue Tie ?
ACK,
In the Main Road format, ties are NOT displayed as a separate circle, but simply as a
GREEN line across the most recent circle drawn.
More specifically, a tie is noted with a green line through the previous Player or Banker win.
If a Banker is followed by a tie, the GREEN line will be through the RED circle.If a Player is followed by a tie, the GREEN line will be through the BLUE circle.If there are multiple ties, then they will be represented by multiple green lines across the same red or blue circle (in some displays, a small number appears adjacent to the green line with that number representing the number of ties).
Quote from: DoctorSudoku on Aug 09, 10:17 PM 2018
ACK,
In the Main Road format, ties are NOT displayed as a separate circle, but simply as a GREEN line across the most recent circle drawn.
More specifically, a tie is noted with a green line through the previous Player or Banker win.
If a Banker is followed by a tie, the GREEN line will be through the RED circle.
If a Player is followed by a tie, the GREEN line will be through the BLUE circle.
If there are multiple ties, then they will be represented by multiple green lines across the same red or blue circle (in some displays, a small number appears adjacent to the green line with that number representing the number of ties).
ACK,
As to whether you should record ties or not yourself (when you are doing the recording by hand), it depends whether or not the method / strategy that you are using at that moment imputes any importance to the tie outcomes (it it does, then of course you record the tie outcomes as they appear -- otherwise, you do not).
Hi Doc
As always thank you very much for all the explanation :). Did you get the Double Attack strategy by Andre ? How is going so far ? :)
Quote from: AndyCasinoK on Aug 09, 09:43 PM 2018
Andre his not a Scammer at all , you can use his free methods to win money , and if you are consistant winner with his free methods then with his double attack method you will win more often because the trigger is more easier than the Pattern Breaker method. You have to use the main road ( Big Road) score board of the Baccarat , it's more easy than waiting the pattern PBBPBBPBB or BPPBPPBPP .
I got a question for you Andre maybe Doc can help because i use your strategy on the live casino which got the main road so it's easy to follow everything but what if in a real casino i cannot find the Main road ? writing it manually is very easy but what i don't know his sometimes in a Tie Situation they are red Tie and Blue Tie on the score board ? What is the rule of the Red/blue Tie ? maybe the first card with the same score define the red/blue Tie ?
Cheers and thank you very much for your strategy :)
Hi Andy
Thank you!
I'm happy you're enjoying the strategy.
Mr. Doc has already explained to you in detail.
You can play the strategy with no trigger too. You will get more busted shoes but at the end you will be in profit.
Any questions, contact by email.
Regards
Andre
Why do not you have proof?
Betting History
You have only words
You guarantee that you will never lose 3 months of play.
You are a fake
Please stop selling. Because you are a scammer.
I'm programmer.
So, I simulated 10,000 real baccarat shoes with your methods like bpp pbb.
Of course, It's not working.
Because of house edge.
win rate is almost 49.98%. Its lower than the normal.
It can lose more than 18 in a row.
In fact, a long time ago someone asked me to simulate a strategy similar to yours.
How amazing!!
Even he planed 12 step martin.
I saved one man and his familly!!
There is no difference between random guessing.
Random is random.
Quote from: Andre Chass on Jul 21, 02:23 PM 2018
Double Attack© - Baccarat Strategy
After several attempts to win playing baccarat and losing money I decided to stop playing and start studying the game.
I spent several hours a day for months studying the game and learning to read the shoes until I could create this strategy.
Thousands of shoes were studied and tested. Dozens of sessions were played with real money without loss. The strategy never failed.
You can recover your investment playing only a few sessions.
You can play as many sessions as you want. It depends on how much time you have available to play and your bankroll.
For the strategy to be successful, you will need to use a Trigger and a Short Progression. In all my sessions I never needed to go to the fifth step of the progression and rarely had to go to the fourth step.
I will give you several examples of how to use the strategy Double Attack© showing images of some real bets that have already been played.
No mislead, no scam.
I will send to you a 6 page doc file.
This strategy costs 75 â,¬
Bankroll suggestion: 15 units
PayPal for payment: doubleattack.strategy@gmail.com
Frequently Asked Questions:
Why is he selling a winning strategy? If it's a winning strategy he doens't need to sell it.
R: I'm selling the strategy to help people to beat the casinos.
But why you're selling it and not sharing it?
R: I like that my work is valued and prestigious. I worked hard to create an effective strategy. I think whatever work you do, you have to be rewarded for your effort.
Feel free to ask any question.
Please be polite.
Ok😂
How can I win with this .
Quote from: PassionRuleta on Mar 27, 05:21 PM 2019
I totally agree with what André chass says!
Have you worked hard to get a way to win, because you are going to give it away?
I'm not going to give my years effort either ...
Who asked you to give it away?? You play with ur HG. No one mind. Just dont try to scam people.
I can offer you$1000. If you can scam general.
Quote from: PassionRuleta on Mar 27, 05:21 PM 2019
I totally agree with what André chass says!
Have you worked hard to get a way to win, because you are going to give it away?
And I totally agree that you want to help, but your effort and work is not going to give it away, I think exactly like you, but here are people who only believe that it is to cheat and I tell you more, they think that, because most of They are scammers or they were!
I'm not going to give my years effort either ...
Your a funny guy.
I would of been a billionaire for every sytem I created to any suckers out there .
And believe me there’s lots out there.
You shouldn't have to sell your idea for any amount if it is working. You should be wasting your time giving riddles either. Either you share your knowledge or you keep it a secret.
Quote from: precogmiles on Mar 27, 05:46 PM 2019
You shouldn't have to sell your idea for any amount if it is working. You should be wasting your time giving riddles either. Either you share your knowledge or you keep it a secret.
I ask the spirits what I should do in meditation and they say always to use riddles.
Now your saying not to .☹ï¸