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Common interest => Off-Topic => Topic started by: nottophammer on Jul 31, 02:22 PM 2018

Title: Parched
Post by: nottophammer on Jul 31, 02:22 PM 2018
Had to laugh, water companies are losing 3,183 million litres of water, a day.
In 1989 they were privatised.
Best excuse for water prices to be increased has to be, through lack of previous governments’ investment to the infrastructure; we have to increase the price for households.
So the companies were called before a commission today to answer, where has all the water gone as reservoirs have dried up in the north, just see on local news a leak on the road, flooded 3 houses and was running for 17 hrs, how much water lost there?
I bet you that the golf courses that the fat cat bosses play on are as green as can be.
So after all these years of increases to pay for improvements to the infrastructure; how are they losing so much, so I reckon you could relay the entire system over; again and again, nah its Britain, we’ll just keep paying, instead of protesting like the French, we’ll keep paying so the shareholders keep getting there dividend’s.
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Post by: ewarwoowar on Jul 31, 05:36 PM 2018
Strange country we live in though Notto. 3 weeks of sun and there's a water shortage, 3 weeks of rain and we have floods everywhere.
Unreal.
On another note, the Hammers - nearly 90m spent?! looks like an interesting season ahead.
Title: Re: Parched
Post by: Badger on Aug 01, 05:24 AM 2018
And if you get a rain tank and catch your own water, they will tax you on it or pass laws prohibiting you from catching rain water.  :twisted:
Title: Re: Parched
Post by: Steve on Aug 01, 05:57 AM 2018
We all complain about the governments. So exactly why arent we doing something about it?

Ive been asking this for ages. As i see it now, we don't stand because if we did, we'd have no chance. 1 vote, 1 person makes a difference? Bullshit.

I would love to take my government to court, as they break their own rules. By logic, i would win. In reality, I'd lose.

I would love to just not pay tax because the government has too much corruption, among other reasons. But if i don't pay unfair tax, ill surely get screwed. Many people may know about corruption like the federal reserve, but not enough to make change, yet. But the elite have plans to deal with dissent when it eventually occurs. They expect it.

So let's hear everyones solutions? Most of us feel the same way.

I think safest is maybe a list of voters who will vote for whatever political party that creates or abolishes requested laws. But that may not work. The elected party doesn't have all the power. Ive tried to do this on my site :.yourway.org.au but don't get enough numbers.

Thoughts anyone?

I also created :.landsharing.org which did well for some time but read dedtroyed by hackers. So i had to start from scratch. Haven't had time to promote yet. The problem with such a project is still government regulation.
Title: Re: Parched
Post by: Roulettebeater on Aug 01, 06:31 AM 2018
Quote from: Steve on Aug 01, 05:57 AM 2018
We all complain about the governments. So exactly why arent we doing something about it?

Ive been asking this for ages. As i see it now, we don't stand because if we did, we'd have no chance. 1 vote, 1 person makes a difference? Bullshit.

I would love to take my government to court, as they break their own rules. By logic, i would win. In reality, I'd lose.

I would love to just not pay tax because the government has too much corruption, among other reasons. But if i don't pay unfair tax, ill surely get screwed. Many people may know about corruption like the federal reserve, but not enough to make change, yet. But the elite have plans to deal with dissent when it eventually occurs. They expect it.

So let's hear everyones solutions? Most of us feel the same way.

I think safest is maybe a list of voters who will vote for whatever political party that creates or abolishes requested laws. But that may not work. The elected party doesn't have all the power. Ive tried to do this on my site :.yourway.org.au but don't get enough numbers.

Thoughts anyone?

I also created :.landsharing.org which did well for some time but read dedtroyed by hackers. So i had to start from scratch. Haven't had time to promote yet. The problem with such a project is still government regulation.

Actually, I have for you a very simple solution... immigrate to a country that doesn’t tax your income.. hmmm... go to Dubai !

There you don’t pay tax on your income ..
Title: Re: Parched
Post by: Steve on Aug 01, 06:52 AM 2018
Thats a patch, not a solution. I mean a solution for everyone who wants to just live free of the bullshit.
Title: Re: Parched
Post by: Badger on Aug 01, 11:11 AM 2018
Steve. Have you checked out link:s://inpowermovement.com
Title: Re: Parched
Post by: nottophammer on Aug 01, 03:09 PM 2018
Now we're being told will the hot weather could make food cost more, is it scaremongering learnt from the remainers.

I remember the summer of 1976, but i don't remember them saying the cost of food could go up, 
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Post by: Badger on Aug 01, 04:00 PM 2018
"Late last night in a shock address to the nation, President Ramaphosa officially confirmed that the ANC-led government will change the Constitution to allow for expropriation of land without compensation.

This means that your private property â€" your home, business or land â€" could be taken away from you without payment."

Looks like South Africa is set to become a communist country.
Title: Re: Parched
Post by: Steve on Aug 01, 09:13 PM 2018
Quote from: Badger on Aug 01, 11:11 AM 2018
Steve. Have you checked out link:s://inpowermovement.com


Yes I like what they're doing, but like my efforts, there just isnt enough support for it. We all share much the same gripes, but fall short on action.
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Post by: Steve on Aug 01, 09:14 PM 2018
Quote from: Badger on Aug 01, 04:00 PM 2018
"Late last night in a shock address to the nation, President Ramaphosa officially confirmed that the ANC-led government will change the Constitution to allow for expropriation of land without compensation.

This means that your private property â€" your home, business or land â€" could be taken away from you without payment."

Looks like South Africa is set to become a communist country.


The potential for abuse is too great.
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Post by: Turner on Aug 02, 02:41 AM 2018
Quote from: Badger on Aug 01, 04:00 PM 2018Looks like South Africa is set to become a communist country.
Well...Henry VIII did exactly the same thing 400 years ago to pay for wars. He wasnt elected though.
Thats the difference between communism and party policy. The peoples vote
Title: Re: Parched
Post by: Steve on Aug 02, 02:54 AM 2018
In desperate times like war, if there is a perceived threat to a nation, who are the people to argue? What would it take to fake a threat, just to get people to agree?

As for anyone who ever said there was a shortage of land, or overpopulation... they need to do some driving across somewhere like Australia. There's so much fertile land as far as you can see. And all for one stupid cow chowing on grass.

There is no shortage of anything. There is just manufactured scarcity.

Apply the same and wonder why most people cant afford land. You are forced to buy strictly zoned and controlled land, which is why it is in short supply. But stealing it from people is not the answer. Sure if they stole it in the first place, take it back. But these SA laws are probably going to be abused.
Title: Re: Parched
Post by: nottophammer on Aug 02, 02:58 AM 2018
Quote from: Turner on Aug 02, 02:41 AM 2018The peoples vote
Brexit you mean
Title: Re: Parched
Post by: Turner on Aug 02, 04:17 AM 2018
Quote from: nottophammer on Aug 02, 02:58 AM 2018
Brexit you mean
Brexit was exactly how things should be done
A party brings out a manifesto with a promise of a referendum on europe....amongst many other policies...before a general election.

People vote for that party....and technically vote for a referendum

Well....not quite because that referendum policy was hidden deep in a big list of other far more important policies....so its difficult to determin if anyone voted Tory because of that promise.

On the other hand....UKIP had that as a main slogan and their top, top policy and they were crushed at the polling stations.

On that mandate, its mind lowing we voted out.
I voted stay simply because I wasnt getting  involved in a dirty trix lying Farage-fest

How on earth can I vote out when me and all the politicians didnt know what it meant, and millions of £'s later and 2 years down the line, still dont.

Notto...I made up my mind on the day when a scrotey family with 6 kids to 6 different dads (stinking of cannabis)were letting the kids put the cross on the ballet paper. Never seen a polling station in their life and the bloke said "lets get all these fkin muslems out the country"....in front of the kids
Thick stupid morons.

Thats your Brexit voter
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Post by: Badger on Aug 02, 05:19 AM 2018
The biggest problem is that politicians have too much power to make and change laws. They get voted in and use that as a mandate to do what they want.
They should only be administrators and if laws need to be made or changed, referendums should be held where the voters decide.
I think that Switzerland operates that way.
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Post by: Steve on Aug 02, 05:55 AM 2018
Down here, even referendum results have been ignored. We voted against local council creation, but they were created regardless. Not even the will of citizens is respected.

Citizens dont determine if a referendum should be held. Politicians do. Would they ever allow us to vote to reduce their power? Ever since the referendum indicated we didnt want local councils and they did it anyway, they have been trying to add legitimacy of local governments to the constitution. For now, the local governments here are actually illegal. But if you take them to court you still lose. Law and courts are mostly business, not justice.

The police enforce whatever a stamped piece of paper says. So the judges have very high authority. And judges are appointed by the people they serve, which isnt everyday citizens.

There are problems everywhere. Theres barely a day i dont think of what might be a workable solution. It appears no matter what, without sufficient awareness of people, any plan is dead in the water.

But im always interested in anyones ideas.
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Post by: Steve on Aug 02, 06:19 AM 2018
Ultimately the problem is consciousness. People are just clueless. Most people are only aware at a low level. Too busy working, too distracted with their favorite tv shows, too worried about paying bills to see what's really going on.

So how do you increase awareness. Teslas paper called The Problem of Increasing Human Energy is part of it.

I dont expect there is an easy solution. Some people are so far behind. We dont need everyone aware, just enough for critical mass. That time is coming regardless. Then the elite will initiate plans to deal with that.

I have no doubt its going to be messy. Revolutions always are. Violence is not a good option. Thats last resort. Violence will lead to more demand for control. But even if there is no violence, it takes only one stupid act from one person, then peoples perception of the situation changes, and they demand security in exchange for liberty.
Title: Re: Parched
Post by: Steve on Aug 02, 06:21 AM 2018
I think the US is not far from civil war. If that happens, everyones best action is to work with their local community. You cant go it alone like a crazed prepper.
Title: Re: Parched
Post by: nottophammer on Aug 02, 04:55 PM 2018
Turner you're quiet the racist, you talk of stinking chinese with stinking sweaty armpits, leaning over you in Grosvenor.
So one moran swayed you to vote stay.

Turner we have not even left the EU, you have not had one single day of the UK out of the EU.

Was there such furore when we were led in to the EU by the conservative party, After President de Gaulle of France had blocked UK membership twice in the 1960s.
Title: Re: Parched
Post by: Steve on Aug 02, 07:09 PM 2018
Quote from: nottophammer on Aug 02, 04:55 PM 2018Turner you're quiet the racist, you talk of stinking chinese with stinking sweaty armpits, leaning over you in Grosvenor.

That it is pretty racist.
Clearly they're Korean.








Disclaimer: It's a joke. Not racism.
Title: Re: Parched
Post by: RouletteGhost on Aug 02, 07:29 PM 2018
Quote from: Steve on Aug 02, 06:21 AM 2018
I think the US is not far from civil war. If that happens, everyones best action is to work with their local community. You cant go it alone like a crazed prepper.

its media fueled

liberal biased media loves dividing people

they always throw "black male" into their headlines

they try to make everything about race and gender here

damn liberals
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Post by: Steve on Aug 02, 07:37 PM 2018
Yes I agree. TV has never represented what's happening in the real world. It has been literally weaponized.

It does no good to complain to politicians, because most are clueless. What needs to happen is more independent media. But internet news is still dominated by TV news.
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Post by: RouletteGhost on Aug 02, 07:38 PM 2018
the media is making american politics very very bad

violence everywhere

trump supporters are attacked....etc...bad news

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Post by: wiggy on Aug 02, 08:01 PM 2018
People need to educate themselves more because there is no excuse for ignorance in my book. Sure, a lot of people get distracted by work, family etc, but I reckon a lot of them know deep down that a lot of things are not what they should be and yet they carry on regardless. It's probably not fair for me to have a pop at the U.S. when we here in the UK are no better but seriously the whole Hillary / Trump thing was just a grotesque freak show and yet supposedly educated people whip themselves into a frenzy over it all. God help us!
Title: Re: Parched
Post by: RouletteGhost on Aug 02, 08:03 PM 2018
my country will collapse from within

the shadow government pumps racism and sexism into everything to divide us

Title: Re: Parched
Post by: Steve on Aug 02, 08:05 PM 2018
Anyone paying attention expects the US to have massive problems soon, along the lines of civil war, mass unrest. Rg, good luck to you. But you know australia is becoming just as screwed. We're about 5 years behind.

One good thing though for now is relative low population.
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Post by: RouletteGhost on Aug 02, 08:08 PM 2018
we voted for nationalism

we voted for america first

our media and the democrats are trying to peddle to us that it was russia

when trump won far leftists were rioting in the streets

if i wear a trump hat in public (i dont own one but if i did) id be beaten up

but i mean, can we have some FAIR trade...our european allies screw us with trade...PAY YOUR DAMN NATO BILLS TO

:xd:
Title: Re: Parched
Post by: Steve on Aug 02, 08:20 PM 2018
If Earth was a computer program, it is so bad that I'd just scrap it and start over with a new programmer. Not the Earth, the morons living on it.

But on the bright side, I believe we are all here by choice. If that is the case, then i'm not sure what I was thinking. The glossy brochures must have misrepresented this place.