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Title: Shit Hard
Post by: Taotie on Aug 21, 02:04 AM 2018
I've recently made a really shitty system that's really hard to play and costs a shitload of money when you lose.

I'm going to call it The Shit Hard Risky System.

Anyone interested in helping me improve this system, or perhaps would like to learn how to play it?
Title: Re: Shit Hard
Post by: Steve on Aug 21, 02:30 AM 2018
It might help.

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Title: Re: Shit Hard
Post by: Taotie on Aug 21, 02:49 AM 2018
Thanks Steve, for a name change inspiration.

The system (yet to be posted) is now to be known as the Holyethylene Glycol System.

Yes, I know it should be Polyethylene and not Holyethylene, but at least this way it can be heralded as the HG System.
Title: Re: Shit Hard
Post by: Taotie on Aug 21, 11:40 PM 2018
I post the Holyethylene Glycol progression first because people might decide to use their own numbers and/or bet selection method.

This is progression stage 1.

1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.2.3.2.1.1.1.2.3.4.3.2.1.2.3.4.6.4.3.2.3.4.6.12.6.4.3.4.6

This is progression stage 2.

20.30.20.10.8.10.20.30.40.30.20.10.20.30.40.50.40.30.20.30.40.50.75.50.40.30.40.50.75.100


Stage 1 will be betting 11 numbers.
Stage 2 will be betting 17 numbers.

On any new bankroll high at any point, always return to stage 1 step 1.
Title: Re: Shit Hard
Post by: ignatus on Aug 22, 12:38 AM 2018
Thanks Taotie<3 First progression didn't work, for me, but second progression worked wonders (i only removed the last 2 steps), so it would look like

20,30,20,10,8,10,20,30,40,30,20,10,20,30,40,50,40,30,20,30,40,50,75,50,40,30,40,50 (for 12 numbers bet, this works very well i seems!) I ran it with Quad King, thanks again<3  :thumbsup:

Title: Re: Shit Hard
Post by: Taotie on Aug 22, 01:36 AM 2018
Nice result Ignatus. You could try adding 1 more quad (16 numbers) and see what happens.

Anyway, bear in mind the stage 2 prog is designed to only be deployed when stage 1 fails to profit. The idea being that the sudden increase in units along with the sudden increase in numbers bet (11 to 17) has a good chance of turning the stage 1 loss around quickly. Because the low units of stage 1 should never lose too much even when running all the way through the 37 bets.
Title: Re: Shit Hard
Post by: Taotie on Aug 22, 05:11 AM 2018
Played on single zero wheel or 37 numbers only.

This system starts by betting on sets of 11 numbers. There are 37 x 11 number sets, one for every pocket on the wheel.


Here is the 11 number set for pocket 1 on the wheel.

1.2.4.15.17.19.20.21.25.31.33

If you observe the wheel pocket positions for these 11 numbers, you should be able to transcribe this for the wheel pocket positions of every number, 0 through 36.


Here is the 17 number set for pocket 1 on the wheel.

1.2.4.5.9.10.14.15.16.19.20.21.22.24.25.31.33

If you observe the wheel pocket positions for these 17 numbers, you should be able to transcribe this for the wheel pocket positions of every number, 0 through 36.
Title: Re: Shit Hard
Post by: buffalowizard on Aug 22, 10:09 AM 2018
Nice one T

How long you been using this? Do you set a win goal? Cheers

BW
Title: Re: Shit Hard
Post by: RouletteGhost on Aug 22, 10:37 AM 2018
You just go with the progression win or lose until new high then reset?
Title: Re: Shit Hard
Post by: buffalowizard on Aug 22, 10:55 AM 2018
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Aug 22, 10:37 AM 2018
You just go with the progression win or lose until new high then reset?

Yeah, that's right. I've been trying the last 2 DS with some success. I like the shallow progression stream
Title: Re: Shit Hard
Post by: RouletteGhost on Aug 22, 06:38 PM 2018
Quote from: Taotie on Aug 21, 11:40 PM 2018
I post the Holyethylene Glycol progression first because people might decide to use their own numbers and/or bet selection method.

This is progression stage 1.

1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.2.3.2.1.1.1.2.3.4.3.2.1.2.3.4.6.4.3.2.3.4.6.12.6.4.3.4.6

This is progression stage 2.

20.30.20.10.8.10.20.30.40.30.20.10.20.30.40.50.40.30.20.30.40.50.75.50.40.30.40.50.75.100


Stage 1 will be betting 11 numbers.
Stage 2 will be betting 17 numbers.

On any new bankroll high at any point, always return to stage 1 step 1.

are you betting 20 chips per NUMBER? please clarify
Title: Re: Shit Hard
Post by: buffalowizard on Aug 22, 06:46 PM 2018
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Aug 22, 06:38 PM 2018
are you betting 20 chips per NUMBER? please clarify
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Taotie I ain't, but I'm pretty certain it is PER number. This is to gain back losses quick  from first set. Almost EC...this is a grind, a slow burner, but pretty stable
Title: Re: Shit Hard
Post by: RouletteGhost on Aug 22, 06:49 PM 2018
thanks wizard
Title: Re: Shit Hard
Post by: Taotie on Aug 22, 07:34 PM 2018
Thanks for comments.

I don't set any win goal, and the chips are per number.

Yes, just go with the progression until new high then reset.
Title: Re: Shit Hard
Post by: Bigbroben on Aug 22, 07:42 PM 2018
Wait a minute...

Is this still the Shit Hard joke going on or you guys are serious?
If so, Shit Hard is a good  name, for there is no way anyone will remember this...

Good prog idea, though.  Just go fwd in it , win or lose, until new high?
Title: Re: Shit Hard
Post by: buffalowizard on Aug 22, 07:43 PM 2018
Yeah...first came the name

Then the progression

Then the bet selection

All totally backwards and bonkers, but original at least
Title: Re: Shit Hard
Post by: Taotie on Aug 22, 07:47 PM 2018
There are 3 ways you can proceed.

1) Move through numerically. That is betting each set of numbers in numerical order 1 by 1.

2) Jump to set. That is always jump to the number set of the last result.

3) Move through and jump on win. That is betting each set of numbers in numerical order 1 by 1, except on a win jump to the number set of the last result.


I prefer  #3
Title: Re: Shit Hard
Post by: Bigbroben on Aug 22, 07:47 PM 2018
Pffff...

I'll just bet the opposite after 23.
Title: Re: Shit Hard
Post by: Bigbroben on Aug 22, 07:50 PM 2018
How would you hedge?

Still thinking you're serious about this...
Title: Re: Shit Hard
Post by: Taotie on Aug 22, 07:55 PM 2018
I told you it was shit hard.

I have all the number sets printed on a double sided laminated card.

By returning to the first set after a new high, you eventually memorise the first handful of sets. I suppose the longer I play the more sets I will memorise.

I don't hedge, although it's good to keep one hand on your balls when the progression gets up there.
Title: Re: Shit Hard
Post by: Taotie on Aug 22, 08:01 PM 2018
You could play this any way you like, as the main idea is betting wheel sections of different size on opposite sides of the wheel. Then haphazardly moving them about between bets.

That makes it probably more difficult than it needs to be, but I like the randomness of it, and I enjoy some high action bet placement when at the table.
Title: Re: Shit Hard
Post by: Bigbroben on Aug 22, 08:15 PM 2018
How did you get there? ?!?
I mean there must be a reason you made it hard as hell...
Title: Re: Shit Hard
Post by: Taotie on Aug 22, 09:59 PM 2018
Quote from: Bigbroben on Aug 22, 08:15 PM 2018
How did you get there? ?!?
I mean there must be a reason you made it hard as hell...

With all the forum talk over the last few years about waiting for repeats and betting just a few numbers, I decided to refute the notion and make a system that bets lots of numbers and doesn't wait for anything let alone repeats.

You could play this as BW does and use 2 DS for the stage 1, and perhaps 3 DS for the stage 2, But keep in mind it is designed for 11 & 17, not 12 & 18 numbers. The difference can be quite significant over time.

Anyway, it's really not shit hard, in fact it's a very simple game to play. You just need to be well practised at placing the bets.
Title: Re: Shit Hard
Post by: RouletteGhost on Aug 22, 10:25 PM 2018
Airball I suppose?
Title: Re: Shit Hard
Post by: Taotie on Aug 22, 10:31 PM 2018
Could play airball, I prefer stadium with real wheel.
Title: Re: Shit Hard
Post by: RouletteGhost on Aug 22, 10:33 PM 2018
I figured it was one or the other. This can’t be done on a live table

But stadium is the same thing so glad it works there

I am also a fan of betting a lot of numbers

I could do this on my method of 30 numbers but the bankroll would be outrageous
Title: Re: Shit Hard
Post by: Taotie on Aug 23, 02:10 AM 2018
You can play stage 2 on a live table, just bump the 8 unit bet to 10 units.
Title: Re: Shit Hard
Post by: Taotie on Aug 23, 02:54 AM 2018
Quote from: Bigbroben on Aug 22, 07:47 PM 2018
Pffff...

I'll just bet the opposite after 23.


???
There is no exact opposite.
Title: Re: Shit Hard
Post by: Taotie on Aug 23, 03:08 AM 2018
Ok, I've registered 'shit hard' on MPR.

Will start playing some soon...let's see how it goes, eh.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Shit Hard
Post by: buffalowizard on Aug 23, 05:29 AM 2018
How do you register on that?
Title: Re: Shit Hard
Post by: Taotie on Aug 23, 05:56 AM 2018
Quote from: buffalowizard on Aug 23, 05:29 AM 2018
How do you register on that?


link:://:.rouletteplayers.org/register
Title: Re: Shit Hard
Post by: buffalowizard on Aug 23, 06:00 AM 2018
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Shit Hard
Post by: nottophammer on Sep 12, 05:04 PM 2018
Hard shit LMAO
Title: Re: Shit Hard
Post by: Taotie on Sep 12, 10:10 PM 2018
Troll.