If you want to berate the time table do it here.
Quote from: nottophammer on Sep 09, 01:25 PM 2018
If you want to berate the time table do it here.
Berate... wie Beratung?
Notto, average and median are good but are an average only. The avgs themselves aren,t enough to overcome negative variance that kills profit of many games in just one.
Did you find a way to escape this? Like playing 2+ repeaters also? Or...?
Good job! Tell me if you need a macro or else with my mistress Excel for you.
berate = attack :girl_to:
Now you know what a Berater shouldn't do
Listen to you Herb
Quote from: Bigbroben on Sep 09, 01:39 PM 2018
Berate... wie Beratung?
Notto, average and median are good but are an average only. The avgs themselves aren,t enough to overcome negative variance that kills profit of many games in just one.
Did you find a way to escape this? Like playing 2+ repeaters also? Or...?
Good job! Tell me if you need a macro or else with my mistress Excel for you.
I enhanced your Excel sheet and ran tests on KTF and the opposite: repeats. Ran charts on both same time, short and long run.
First remove the zero so to speak by reducing numbers covered to 36, keeping payout same. I found a break-even game for both sides, apparently random.
Then make it 37 numbers and it starts to weigh on both sides, eventually sinking both.
Can a take-profit-stop-loss save the game? Not according to my initial tests.
I also tried a milepost check at 20 spins, to see if it indicated direction to 40 spins. Nope.
Have not tried return to mean at checkpoints (over/under average). But am not optimistic as this appears to be an even chance bet.
Right, it reminds me I wanted to share an anti-ktf sheet...
The good thing about this reverse play is that progs tend lower as repeaters kick in. Found it goes whether real high if the trot is slow (early repeaters) or down if too many unhits in the firts 20 spins or so.
I think I'll try a new version that allows to play regular ktf and add repeaters at some x spins, or after x reps...
First I,ll just share the reverse ktf later tonight.
Stil, to have a break-even game with 36 nrs is already a good start...!
Quote from: nottophammer on Sep 09, 01:25 PM 2018
If you want to berate the time table do it here.
only to look at the averages will mislead you.
Better watch the possible Swing as well:
see attachment
Quote from: winkel on Sep 12, 06:16 AM 2018only to look at the averages will mislead you.
I only found, dont matter whether Airball, FOBT's, live spins and random.org that average of 7,5,3 is on all.
Like you said to me in GUT many moons ago becareful, i am, i just watch the so hilarious trot and make decisions for non-hit or repeat.
Today on J.247.com 1st 10 spins end 8/10, next 5 spins are all non-hit, now most games give 7,+2 so 5 have come, so your GUT says could have 2 repeats we have, we've had 5 non-hit in 11-15 so start to bet for repeats, next spin win.Oh yeah curve fitting
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Turner
You did work on 13,31
So Mr J who's a twat, is that better, laughed at this
IF 13 SHOWS DON'T BET FOR 31 BET BLACK, OR 12 DON'T BET FOR 21 BET RED.
On the sheet above you work it out, does it win answer on todays #'s easy just look last 2 spins 23, so bet red, win.
Who says there's always a bet.
If you know how 36*1,5,25 works, win spin 28; +121
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Quote from: nottophammer on Sep 12, 07:21 AM 2018
Turner
You did work on 13,31
So Mr J who's a twat, is that better, laughed at this
IF 13 SHOWS DON'T BET FOR 31 BET BLACK, OR 12 DON'T BET FOR 21 BET RED.
On the sheet above you work it out, does it win answer on todays #'s easy just look last 2 spins 23, so bet red, win.
Who says there's always a bet.
Well...firstly...me and Ken spoke in detail (and its private) and we get on ok now. I hate being at loggerheads with someone so Im very happy with the situation.
As for 13 31....as predicted...it shows exactly the same as 1 2 or 36 11 or any other pair..
I tested over 100 k I think.
Numerology and telekinesis are bunkum in my view. Just saying....but that shouldnt deter anyone else from believing it.
What do I know?
Quote from: Turner on Sep 12, 01:07 PM 2018As for 13 31....as predicted...it shows exactly the same as 1 2 or 36 11 or any other pair.
Yes Turner, the reverse does ask a lot, so as the pair are red 32;12, instead of betting the reverse why not just bet for the colour. Below just from the start of the generals starburst #'s
20
3
2
23
36 w
14
17
32
35 L
9
17
10
33
0
5
29
11
13
11 w
18
35
31
20 w
Just voodoo ??
Some might ask themselves, how does Notto get this average for spins 11-20, that is 7,+2
So here are 700 sets of 11-20
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There's your answer. So the 15 non-hits over 30 spins should be 5,5,5 look how often the 5 happens,
So this is why you can watch how the non-hit are coming using spins of 1/37 So like J247 today, 8;+3 shown in KTF, would that not indicate repeat must be near
Generals looked and must have passed the reply
Rob
In the germans; 1st 10 spins, get the opportunity to bet once 71 times from 112 games, +182
JACKPOT joy data was started back in 2015, didn’t have the tester with the checkpoints till May 2016.
You see 100 games going to 1000 games.
The average to hit is same as the other 2; Max to hit is similar. You can see how many times a non-hit took/max spins on sheet 100 and same on 1000
Now a question
Let’s look to non-hit number 23 as this has 1000 games, after 23rd non-hit there is less games as the results come from a televised game, aired after midnight, so time aired varies in length so sometimes under 60 spins and then occasions where 80+ spins.
You can see it has a known max of 11 spins; it averages to hit in 2.3 spins, you can’t have 2.3 so I round up, wrong you’ll say, but better for me is too round up to 3 spins.
Now options, do you bet for 3 spins and win on 807 occasions, or knowing at present time its max is 11 spins, wait; by waiting how many times could you bet 15 remaining non-hit. On the FOBT it allowed for 7 bets, so you could win on 976 occasions.
You can see the dilemma of betting on Bookies FOBT where it allows you to raise .2, .4, .6, .8, 1.00 then goes straight to 2.00; unlike B+M where you can go on 1.2, 1.4 and so on; so you can see how you could get to max bet of £100 very quickly.
So do you wait for 3 spins and then commence betting, this way you would win on spin 10, losing on 3 occasions, that it took 11 spins, if you was to play every game on J247.com
On the Germans the known max at this wheel is 14 spins, the avg to hit is 2.43
On the Generals wheel the known max is 10 spins the Generals avg to hit is 3.03 spins
The averages pretty close even thou the General’s data is for only 56 games
The good old Germans data is for only 112 games.
Now if we add the 3 max to hit 14,11,10; divide by 3 and get 11.6 what we going to say 12 spins?
Well here is 720 games of Random .org and what a surprise even thou not quite a; 1000 games, here the max is 12
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So any thoughts
Quote from: Bigbroben on Sep 09, 01:39 PM 2018Notto, average and median are good but are an average only.
Big Bro
These are the numbers of the game plastered in Grandpaa way.
Funny isn't it how these averages are always so close. Like i said near the end the connections weren't happening in granps and when it made one at the end, did i not say, even not knowing the score, but that graph showed how non-hit had slowed and i knew one was due, but not having the score i left the remaining alone and #13 hit.
(link:://:.pichost.org/images/2019/02/27/source6270f.png) (link:://:.pichost.org/image/OzYdo)you can see it was a fast game from the larger group; 15 non-hits in spins 11-30; and they had to slow and at spin 40 checkpoint shows only 2 more hit.
But its only average, then again look at the invisible Trot you helped me too show
Quote from: nottophammer on Oct 02, 12:43 PM 2018
Some might ask themselves, how does Notto get this average for spins 11-20, that is 7,+2
So here are 700 sets of 11-20
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There's your answer. So the 15 non-hits over 30 spins should be 5,5,5 look how often the 5 happens,
So this is why you can watch how the non-hit are coming using spins of 1/37 So like J247 today, 8;+3 shown in KTF, would that not indicate repeat must be near
Pichost gone, fcuks everything up.
Like in KTF, reds numbers, couldn't you win. 2 years this data has been on this forum.