Anyone hear from him? I'm amazed at how clever he was with hints. Genius, really.
Wish I knew, lot of Pigeon Hole theories that need pursuing. Seemed to have a lot of merit, particularly now that we have ayk's tracker to make things easy to test.
He always won in a cycle ..
I think he was very similar to vaddis in his thinking
Ayks tracker is probably the best tool in the world to check stuff out like this
I would say his pigeon hole theory is along the same lines
An average of 24 numbers out and 12 repeats
On ayks tracker there are only 37 empty slots
They would be the pigeon hole boxes there’s no two ways about it
Those 24 pigeons cannot all be standalone numbers you would need let’s say 48 pigeon hole boxes
Those pigeons must at least pair or flock together..they have to
Be it one or two pairs
Do a test and see how many times it takes to make a pair
Person S pics shows both extremes one for repeats and then one for expansion on unhits
Repeats and unhits and unique are all tied together
Dyslexic was a one cycle winner but had a large bankroll that would make sure he won it
He always said he would win on a repeat even if it came in on the 37th spin
Quote from: 6th-sense on Sep 29, 04:00 AM 2018
He always won in a cycle ..
I think he was very similar to vaddis in his thinking
Ayks tracker is probably the best tool in the world to check stuff out like this
I would say his pigeon hole theory is along the same lines
An average of 24 numbers out and 12 repeats
On ayks tracker there are only 37 empty slots
They would be the pigeon hole boxes there’s no two ways about it
Those 24 pigeons cannot all be standalone numbers you would need let’s say 48 pigeon hole boxes
Those pigeons must at least pair or flock together..they have to
Be it one or two pairs
Do a test and see how many times it takes to make a pair
Person S pics shows both extremes one for repeats and then one for expansion on unhits
Repeats and unhits and unique are all tied together 0x v 1x; 0x v 1x+>1x; 0x+1x v >1x
Dyslexic was a one cycle winner but had a large bankroll that would make sure he won it
He always said he would win on a repeat even if it came in on the 37th spin
"when I win a cycle, I start again with the previous winning bet now
becoming the 1st bet in the new cycle etc."
If you do figure out what happens in the "cycle" you have figured out this game
Quote from: luckyfella on Sep 29, 10:50 AM 2018If you do figure out what happens in the "cycle" you have figured out this game
The lenght of the cycles you are talking about is variabel ?
Thanks Gordon and Rik, very helpful, appreciate it.
Dyksexlic managed to develop his methods without any tracker, just manually logging everything, can't imagine how he kept it all straight in Excel without knowing where the road ultimately led to (his final form). Shame he disappeared, but I'm glad we're taking a minute here to talk about his work again with fresh thoughts.
Quote from: PassionRuleta on Sep 29, 04:34 PM 2018
It may be that dyksexlic has disappeared but someone has understood what he is doing? I think so :wink:
Maybe Sergio, maybe. Lately you're claiming you figured out the "loft" and now it's an HG for you, etc, etc.
And that's great, we want to believe, and we want you to have success. Anyone who doesn't want others to do well isn't putting the positive energy out there that will ever come back to them with progress.
But...
Remember, you've said you had Turbo's 1.5.25 method and David's HG as well, and when Gordon spoke with you it was obvious you were no where close on Vaddi and needed help.
Regardless, if you've cracked the Pigeon Hole theory and the Loft, then more power to you, congratulations.
Ok, guess no one has been in contact with him. This thread can now be locked before it turns into another pissing contest.
Please explain what is the principle of the loft. Are you refering to the principle of the LOTT?
:lol: :lol: O0
Quote from: PassionRuleta on Oct 01, 07:05 AM 2018
first he did it in 76 balls with the experiment he explained with the words
Do you have any link where we could read this things ?
Tnx
link:s://:.vlsroulette.com/index.php?topic=8906.0
Take it all with a very large pinch of salt ;-)
Quote from: Joe on Oct 01, 08:00 AM 2018
Take it all with a very large pinch of salt ;-)
Or not.
That word game may be easy to apply to roulette. Fill the wheel with 37 different words and each time the outcome forms the beginning of a phrase you just bet all the words / numbers that don't grammatically fit.
Ex if something like SHE USED TO appears, you would bet on words such as
LIVES, BUYS, DRESSED because those don't fit.
Betting what doesn't fit. Now, that's interesting. ;)
The thing is, it's not hard to invent any crazy mapping of the numbers to something else, like letters, but why should it work? What possible correlation could there be between them?
This is what I find frustrating about roulette systems and forums (or rather, I used to, now it just makes me roll my eyes and shrug); hardly ever is any guiding principle or justification given for why the ideas might work. Thinking out of the box is all very well but all too often it seems like it's pursued as an end in itself.
Quote from: Joe on Oct 02, 10:33 AM 2018
The thing is, it's not hard to invent any crazy mapping of the numbers to something else, like letters, but why should it work? What possible correlation could there be between them?
This is what I find frustrating about roulette systems and forums (or rather, I used to, now it just makes me roll my eyes and shrug); hardly ever is any guiding principle or justification given for why the ideas might work. Thinking out of the box is all very well but all too often it seems like it's pursued as an end in itself.
Sometimes I don't question why something works, or why it doesn't. I understand the physics behind aerodynamics,lift and thrust, but am still amazed an item 100 tons heavier than air is flying me off to a beach somewhere. I don't question why it works, I know it does and use it to my advantage.
I have a basketball betting system that on paper should never work, the mathematics would say I should have lost almosr every single time. The record of this system over the years is 407-13. Thirteen losses and 407 wins. It has nothing to do with the way a normal handicapper would look at the game. I don't question it, I just pocket the profits.
I´m not saying it works. I just found It surprising no one in that thread guessed what the OP was trying to say. But it´s nonsense. It would be like IF 5, 7, 11 APPEAR IN A ROW, BET THAT 13 WON´T HIT NEXT. OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I don´t believe in systems anymore.
Unless you sell systems online. That´s a money maker. Guaranteed. :twisted:
Quote from: Joe on Oct 02, 10:33 AM 2018
The thing is, it's not hard to invent any crazy mapping of the numbers to something else, like letters, but why should it work? What possible correlation could there be between them?
This is what I find frustrating about roulette systems and forums (or rather, I used to, now it just makes me roll my eyes and shrug); hardly ever is any guiding principle or justification given for why the ideas might work. Thinking out of the box is all very well but all too often it seems like it's pursued as an end in itself.
We agree. System players can never seem to state why a system should work.
I can think of a few bogus theories, but I don´t want my competitors to know about them. :twisted:
Quote from: 6th-sense on Sep 29, 04:00 AM 2018
He always won in a cycle ..
I think he was very similar to vaddis in his thinking
Dyslexic was a one cycle winner but had a large bankroll that would make sure he won it
He always said he would win on a repeat even if it came in on the 37th spin
So he just used a negative progression until a repeat and had a massive bankroll to do it?
Also it's funny how PassionRouletta now talks and riddles like he's the master of Dyslexiks method but before it was Vaddis way was the be all and end all lol.
Quote from: Gandhi on Oct 02, 04:23 PM 2018
So he just used a negative progression until a repeat and had a massive bankroll to do it?
Also it's funny how PassionRouletta now talks and riddles like he's the master of Dyslexiks method but before it was Vaddis way was the be all and end all lol.
I don’t think he did no..he talked about placed bets ..held bets..and other bets wasn’t progression but different bets with certain amounts ..depending where that bet was .maybe a bit like NIMO is doing ..
Quote from: Herby on Sep 29, 01:16 PM 2018
The lenght of the cycles you are talking about is variabel ?
The length of the cycle has to be based on math
The very concept of the jargon 'cycle' is based on math
Dyslexic gave his perception of cycle
It is not the complete math itself
People after him introduced their concept of cycle
The question is, are these versions of 'cycle' based on math ?
If they are not based on math, then it is some voodoo nonsense
This brings us back to the start,
Do you understand the math of 'cycle' ?
I am afraid almost all of you don't properly understand it
Or has a vague understanding at best
Therein lies the problem
We can only gain the edge based on proper math, that's a fact
The casino has the house edge
Your edge must overcome this house edge to give you a net positive edge whose number is viable
AP players CLAIM that they are able to make PREDICTIONs of future spins with the use of the physical aspects of the game
I am sure you have read or watched videos about that
The casino has asset/property protection protocol updated to deal with the latest scam, may not be this roulette game
The casino wield the untimate weapon against AP players, the ban
It is a losing game, no doubt about that
How did phil Ivey win his millions playing baccarat ?
Edge sorting
Go figure the rest
Stay sober
Like i said, its easy to win. The real problem is avoiding detection. Its not difficult to avoid detection. Its difficult for surveillance staff to determine who's an AP before theywin too much.
I dont claim to beat roulette. I beat it. :twisted:
Im one of many. People who don't believe roulette is being beaten focus on approaches like repeaters. They dont have AP experience.
@Steve - I get that these concepts are not for everybody - so in that respect I can see your point of views when you & Caleb point out 'noobs' etc following blindly - *each to their own
- they don't have to point out word for word their way but what 6th/Nimo and a few others on here are graciously sharing is actually good for paving the way for those so called 'noobs'
*there is only one way...? - sure this is your experience - nothing wrong with that - but quite limited to think that there is only one way
**there are people making good money from this game without the direct use of AP or VB - to argue otherwise shows your hand - it’s all conjecture on here anyway!
But heh! - you guys are right with whatever you'll say :thumbsup:
Quote from: -Katalyst- on Oct 03, 01:44 AM 2018but what 6th/Nimo and a few others on here are graciously sharing is actually good for paving the way for those so called 'noobs'
I'm not entirely sure what they are sharing specifically, but most information by members is incorrect and harmful. Thats why we speak up.
Quote from: -Katalyst- on Oct 03, 01:44 AM 2018*there is only one way...? - sure this is your experience - nothing wrong with that - but quite limited to think that there is only one way
Again I dont think MY way is the only way. I just encourage everyone to try NEW methods, and understand why particular approaches dont work. Im trying to save people time and effort, but it seems some people arent really interested - they just want to do their own way regardless. That's fine, but it becomes a problem when they mislead other people. There's always two sides. The other side (my side) explains it all, and its up to the noobs to take responsibility for their own learning.
Quote from: -Katalyst- on Oct 03, 01:44 AM 2018**there are people making good money from this game without the direct use of AP or VB - to argue otherwise shows your hand - it’s all conjecture on here anyway!
Maybe, for a while. Even random bets can win. And add progression, then you can win for a while longer. But winning from luck and progression is very different to a real advantage.
Quote from: -Katalyst- on Oct 03, 01:44 AM 2018But heh! - you guys are right with whatever you'll say
See now you're getting it :thumbsup:
Can we stay on topic or lock this thread? We get it, Steve. Your way is the only way and you're blind to everything else that's been shared on your forum. Moving on.
Here's what Dyskexlic had to say about all that nonsense.
It's NOT concerned with "the house edge". Who CARES ?

It's NOT recording the patterns of red / black / high /low / odd / even etc.

It's NOT doubling up if you win / lose etc.

It's NOT waiting for "HOT" numbers or any other 'essential' event.

It's NOT restricted to casinos using Playtech software

It's NOT based on pseudo-random number sequences for success

It's NOT to do with calculating wheel bias. (Give me a $%#@ing break!)

It's NOT about calculating the velocity / wind direction / density of the ball / varnish on the wood etc.

It's NOT BS, or a figment of my imagination.

Quote from: Blueprint on Oct 03, 09:27 AM 2018
Can we stay on topic or lock this thread? We get it, Steve. Your way is the only way and you're blind to everything else that's been shared on your forum. Moving on.
Did you even just read what i said? Wake up.
Btw, Dyksexlic was just a troll who used other usernames. His intention was clearly to string people along for self gratification. He caught many, hook, line and sinker.
Unfortunately many people didnt see it. And his manipulation has had lasting effects, because many people have such bad understanding.
Anyway, continue on. It has all been said before. Happy winnings. :twisted:
Quote from: PassionRuleta on Oct 03, 04:16 PM 2018
[quote author = Steve link = topic = 20821.msg210520 # msg210520 date = 1538597294]
Btw, Dyksexlic was just a troll who used other usernames. His intention was clearly to string people along for self gratification. I have caught many, hook, line and sinker.
Unfortunately many people did not see it. And his manipulation has had lasting effects, because many people have such bad understanding.
Anyway, continue on. It has been said before. Happy winnings : twisted:
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I do not know if for you or for others dyksexlic was a troll or a sell fumes, what if I can tell you that I have deciphered it and it is super easy to apply and comes out once 100% sure always.
It is the only way I can say and confirm that what the author says is totally true, it always happens and that is to win with security.
I have also studied visual balisitica and I know good prediction forms, but it does not work on all roulettes, and that means it is not 100% reliable, whether you like it or not.
But if I can assure you that what dyksexlic says is an irremediable mathematical principle for the game, it will have to do one thing if or if, it can not avoid it, even though it is manipulated.
I would give you a great track, but as you will not believe in it and many despise me in this forum, I will never give any clue because here in this forum everything is smarter and more good than the rest ... :xd: :xd: :lol: :thumbsup:
Omg 😮. Its the number 3 HG . How much??
Quote from: Steve on Oct 03, 04:02 PM 2018Did you even just read what i said? Wake up.
Didn't. And won't.
Quote from: Steve on Oct 03, 04:08 PM 2018Btw, Dyksexlic was just a troll who used other usernames. His intention was clearly to string people along for self gratification. He caught many, hook, line and sinker.
You're wrong. If there was no Dyksexlic then there would be no reddwarf/rrbb and Priyanka. Think about that.
You're out of your league, my friend. Way out of your league. Stick to your cheating methods and we will continue to beat the game in front of your eyes.
Quote from: Blueprint on Oct 03, 04:47 PM 2018
You're wrong. If there was no Dyksexlic then there would be no reddwarf/rrbb and Priyanka. Think about that.
You're out of your league, my friend. Way out of your league. Stick to your cheating methods and we will continue to beat the game in front of your eyes.
You should prove us wrong. Go to the casino and increase your bet! ::)
Quote from: PassionRuleta on Oct 03, 04:16 PM 2018super easy to apply and comes out once 100% sure always. It is the only way I can say and confirm that what the author says is totally true, it always happens and that is to win with security.
So why are you still looking for methods to win?
Quote from: PassionRuleta on Oct 03, 04:16 PM 2018I have also studied visual balisitica and I know good prediction forms, but it does not work on all roulettes, and that means it is not 100% reliable, whether you like it or not.
Correct, its not magic. But it beats enough wheels, and with a high enough edge, to be easily viable.
Frankly, bullshit Dyksexlic's systems work 100% of the time. There's a lot of talk here, but the talkers cant even beat MPR.
Quote from: PassionRuleta on Oct 03, 04:16 PM 2018But if I can assure you that what dyksexlic says is an irremediable mathematical principle for the game, it will have to do one thing if or if, it can not avoid it, even though it is manipulated.
What principle? I recall he only published incorrect gibberish.
Again if it's guaranteed, why are you still looking for winning systems? Why arent you winning fortunes?
Quote from: PassionRuleta on Oct 03, 04:16 PM 2018many despise me in this forum
Its probably something to do with what you were selling, and claiming it also never lost. You may need to redefine what you call "never lose".
Quote from: Blueprint on Oct 03, 04:44 PM 2018Didn't. And won't.
That's probably why you learn slowly.
I think a major problem here is some members are quite immature. Specifically, even when they are clearly wrong, they don't like to be told that. They take offense to it. Even in the face of obvious truth, being "right" is more important than actual truth.
Personally if someone tells me I'm wrong, I'm not offended. I simply ask them to "show me". If they can't, then there's no reason to change what I consider fact. If they show me proof, I'll gladly change my belief, without stomping my feet.
One could argue I've been shown proof. Yes, things like 2 comes after 1, 3 comes after 2. I remember. And charts showing 22 or so spins. I've also been lectured lots by members who even have MPR win rates lower than random.
Quote from: Blueprint on Oct 03, 04:47 PM 2018If there was no Dyksexlic then there would be no reddwarf/rrbb and Priyanka. Think about that.
Reddwarf spoke much the same nonsense as Dyksexlic. Maybe even the same person. I remember checking IPs and Dyksexlic was a serial troll who had done the same thing before, much like CEH. As for Priyanka, nobody followed him until he got great results on MPR. And when it was revealed he exploited a loophole in the game to cheat, many followers continued to follow the nonsense. He even clearly eventually said his approaches are not the holy grail, and eventually lose. Good of him to come clean at least. Still ignored.
Quote from: The General on Oct 03, 05:27 PM 2018You should prove us wrong. Go to the casino and increase your bet!
Not likely when none of them can even beat a simulation.. unless you're looking only at 22 spins.
Quote from: Blueprint on Oct 03, 04:47 PM 2018You're out of your league, my friend. Way out of your league. Stick to your cheating methods and we will continue to beat the game in front of your eyes.
You're a bit lost. I sincerely hope it doesnt take you much longer to figure it out.
Quote from: PassionRuleta on Oct 03, 06:36 PM 2018
[quote author = Blueprint link = topic = 20821.msg210524 # msg210524 date = 1538599624]
You're wrong. If there was no Dyksexlic then there would be no reddwarf / rrbb and Priyanka. Think about that.
You're out of your league, my friend. Way out of your league. Stick to your cheating methods and we will continue to beat the game in front of your eyes.
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Do not worry about Blueprint, they are very wrong, dyksexlic is the true expert, he knows what he is talking about, it is better than all the ones I have seen and studied, even better than Turbo and Vaddis, it is so simple that you can not imagine it.
:thumbsup:
O my god.
Vaddi is better than turbo
Dysexlic is better than vaddi
Whats next
Passion is wasier than all
I think ,next passion is targetting blueprint to suck up some more info.
Dont be surprised if there is call for skype invitation.
Dont be fool
Ok, Steve. Whatever you say. I’m not the one that has been to court for my delusions.
The immature people are the ones who feel they need to drop in on every post with the same nonsense touting there own agenda.
Quote from: Blueprint on Oct 03, 07:51 PM 2018Ok, Steve. Whatever you say.
Great logic, solid proof. As always.
Quote from: Blueprint on Oct 03, 07:51 PM 2018I’m not the one that has been to court for my delusions.
Seems like a blind stab with no idea. People tend to get personal when their arguments dont hold water.
Quote from: Blueprint on Oct 03, 07:51 PM 2018The immature people are the ones who feel they need to drop in on every post with the same nonsense touting there own agenda.
The agenda is truth. Really simple. I'm sorry, I dont believe in fairies unless someone shows me evidence they exists. And I don't believe you can consistently win in roulette unless you improve your odds of winning to overcome the unfair payout. In layman's terms, I don't believe 35 is greater than 37.
Passion, unfortunately you and others have no idea and cant even grasp the basics. It's unfortunate, but it's not like it isnt all right in front of you. Anyway good luck, if you're winning, keep doing it.
Keep baiting... like your 1995 pop up to get more suckers.
I won’t be sharing or proving anything. You wouldn’t understand and I sure as hell won’t devalue it by sharing with you.
Quote from: Blueprint on Oct 03, 08:00 PM 2018I won’t be sharing or proving anything.
Yes i know that.
Quote from: Blueprint on Oct 03, 08:00 PM 2018You wouldn’t understand
I probably would.
Dont take it so personally. The truth is the same for all of us.
QuoteVaddis, it seems that he was a very intelligent person with whom I have contact and I tell myself that in a while he will have a very good software which will sell to very few people and his knowledge is very good, he even told me that everything that the conto and that's why he was doing another program.
Sorry, but I smell a scam. I can't see any logic to the absurdity.
Quote from: The General on Oct 03, 08:15 PM 2018
Sorry, but I smell a scam.
Whew the scam stench !
Quote from: PassionRuleta on Oct 03, 07:02 PM 2018
A person is working developing a very powerful software for several months on the dijkstra algorithm,
The internet is full with code for different programming languages.
It needs only adaption to your special case of input.
What was the input ? >:D
Quote from: PassionRuleta on Oct 03, 07:02 PM 2018A person is working developing a very powerful software for several months on the dijkstra algorithm algorithm, where you can find thanks to the numbers that have come out that number should come out and what is getting
Interesting, I was actually thinking about shortest-path algorithms the other day in the context of systems which play a sequence of locations, like "parachute" systems. Could such optimization algorithms be used to find the optimal sequence? It's certainly worth investigating. I found an article which shows several interesting applications of dijkstra, including currency trading.
link:s://blog.evjang.com/2018/08/dijkstras.html
I really don't understand why powerful algorithms like this aren't explored more on the forum, maybe it's because the bar to entry is too high, but increasingly you don't necessarily need to be an ace programmer to use such algorithms because there are many point & click interfaces to them, especially in machine learning. Implementing the algorithm is really the easy part, it's finding something which works that's the challenge, and that takes hard work, persistence and some creativity.
Hi Jo,
just start a thread I'll join.
Perhaps a thread where not all members can write.
A tip on parachute system
Don't assume whatever works for ec will work the same for dz, line, street,.....and so on
Not necessary
If you overlay those different bets you get non-deterministic chaos that's incomputable
Quote from: Joe on Oct 04, 04:21 AM 2018
......it's finding something which works that's the challenge, and that takes hard work, persistence and some creativity.
Try sd, skew, fat tail, long tail
Look at MM for combo solution
Hg or win more than lose ?
What do you want ?
Risk reward profile is different
Good luck, you need lots of it
Quote from: luckyfella on Oct 04, 05:50 AM 2018
A tip on parachute system
Don't assume whatever works for ec will work the same for dz, line, street,.....and so on
Not necessary
If you overlay those different bets you get non-deterministic chaos that's incomputable
No. Thats what the casinos want you to believe in, that some types of bets win mote than others. The ratios between the different types of bets are all LINEAR. For the lines to win over ecs the curve would have to be nonlinear and that only happens if there is an edge. No edge no win.
Quote from: psimoes on Oct 04, 08:45 AM 2018
No edge no win.
How simple is that that makes people a genius - 4words
Now how many people has found that elusive edge ?
Answer - zero, since inside (fill in your name) knowledge sphere it's impossible
In what shape and form ?
Answer - when impossible is involved what shape and form
Parachute method is a joke
One edge of anything is impossible
What about multiple edge ?
I use the word impossible, steve, caleb, you and so and so.......jump at it
It's a comedy, really
Joe wants to attempt
I can't simply use this impossible word on him
I wish him all the luck
I only brought up parachute because it's an example of a sequence of bets which is capable of being optimized (or your outlay minimized). I don't endorse parachute methods per se. They are no better or worse theoretically than any other series of bets you could make, including whatever system you happen to favor.
QuoteI wish him all the luck
You know it's a funny thing; the harder I work the luckier I get. ;-)
Quote from: Herby on Oct 04, 05:07 AM 2018Hi Jo,
just start a thread I'll join.
Perhaps a thread where not all members can write.
Ok :thumbsup:
Quote from: Joe on Oct 04, 11:06 AM 2018You know it's a funny thing; the harder I work the luckier I get. ;-)
If only that were true.
It's true for me, at least.
Quote from: luckyfella on Oct 04, 06:09 AM 2018Look at MM for combo solution
This is exactly the kind of application which algorithms like dijkstra can help to optimize.
Quote from: Joe on Oct 04, 11:18 AM 2018
This is exactly the kind of application which algorithms like dijkstra can help to optimize.
Money management can't turn a losing game into a winning won in the long run.
I didn't say it could, did I? ::)
Quote from: PassionRuleta on Oct 04, 12:19 PM 2018
Joe, if you had wanted I would have given you very good information to create a winning program, but you did not want to.
Now another person already created the simple program as dyksexlic, but there is another one working hard on the dijkstra algorithm to do something much better and soon I will have it.
I will show that you can win by playing only 1-3 numbers with the dijkstra algorithm program in a live casino.
Although what makes dyksexlic really wins in any casino.
A scam.
Quote from: The General on Oct 04, 11:52 AM 2018
Money management can't turn a losing game into a winning won in the long run.
Is that just the game of roulette your referring too itself ?
Or just Systems
Quote from: PassionRuleta on Oct 04, 12:19 PM 2018Joe, if you had wanted I would have given you very good information to create a winning program, but you did not want to.
Not quite true. I only work for nothing on projects which interest me, otherwise I charge (and not very much either). You weren't even interested in hearing how much I was going to charge; as soon as I mentioned payment that was enough. ;-)
Apparently you thought that the information was payment enough. Get real. If you knew your system was a winner why would you need to have it coded?
So supposing I code it and show that it works, in that case my time has been well spent and you are happy; I don't care that I wasn't paid because now I've got a winning system which is much more valuable than the small amount I would have charged for coding. But the overwhelming likelihood would be that it doesn't work, in which case you learned something. But what did I get out of it if I wasn't paid? I put the time and effort into coding but all I got was a chart going south, just another system which didn't work. I took all the risk, you took none. That's not my idea of good business.
Gamblers, they always want something for nothing. ::)
So here's the deal for anyone who wants a system coded : if it works I won't charge, if it doesn't I want to be paid for my work. Fair enough?
There's no secret formula for beating the random game of roulette. ::)
Quote from: PassionRuleta on Oct 04, 12:44 PM 2018The scam is you and your gang that you still think you are in the 90s to win with ballistics ...
Another guy talking about something he has no experience with.
Passion if you want to code something, try a freelance programmer site. If you had a system that worked, surely you could afford that, right?
Quote from: PassionRuleta on Oct 04, 07:07 PM 2018That I can pay for it, does not mean that I have to look for someone to pay for it, I can look for someone without paying and who benefits from it.
If you have the HG, why waste time struggling to find a free coder when you can get it done quickly by paying a programmer?
It might cost you around $500, which is nothing if you have the HG.
Quote from: Joe on Oct 04, 11:06 AM 2018
You know it's a funny thing; the harder I work the luckier I get. ;-)
Thomas Edison found the ways that don't work 1st
That's down to sheer hard work
He is destined to live his life
Imo
Some may not agree
Quote from: Joe on Oct 04, 11:18 AM 2018
This is exactly the kind of application which algorithms like dijkstra can help to optimize.
Betselection and MM
Horse before the cart
Cart before the horse
What role can each play ?
Is it dysfunctional if it's inverted ?
The high road leads to well known destination
PassionRuletta, how many numbers does Diksexlic play? 1 - 3 ?
Quote from: PassionRuleta on Oct 04, 07:07 PM 2018
By the way, I already have the dijkstra algorithm program.
It's a 1 minute search (if you are slow) in the internet.
You are able to find out stable patterns in dynamic sequences (be careful the Britts will kill you like Alan Turing).
You found this patterns 9 months ago.
But you are not able to learn a programming language within this 9 months. Any more questions ? :question:
Quote from: PassionRuleta on Oct 04, 05:28 PM 2018On the other hand I think it's good that you think it's not going to work, it's your decision, but that was not the case, because if it works and only with having told you the theory, you would have understood that it is impossible to lose.
Here's what doesn't make sense : if it's impossible to lose, why do you need to have it coded? My point is that you don't know whether it wins or not long term, and you're relying on a naive programmer to find out for you. If it loses, you haven't lost anything, but the programmer has wasted time and effort. Some may be happy to do it for nothing, not me.
So anyway, looking forward to seeing you blow the MPR out of the water, then I'll kick myself. ;D
5 players with the hg can't combine funds to pay a programmer to test a system they know works but want to get a free programmer to see if it works.
It makes sense.
Anyone can have any system made for Roulette Extreme which can also play as a bot for just $50 US Dollars.
link:://:.uxsoftware.com/pages/custom.html
So there you have it, just $10 each you cheapskates.
Quote from: Joe on Oct 05, 04:10 AM 2018So anyway, looking forward to seeing you blow the MPR out of the water, then I'll kick myself.
Seriously I don’t understand this argument while I agree to everything else you say as you talk sense. Why would anyone spend their time and energy on proving something that works. What’s in it for them :). If he’s a scammer, it will fail. If ones a winner what’s in it for him to prove it works. Out of my league.
Quote from: Tinsoldiers on Oct 05, 10:04 AM 2018
Seriously I don’t understand this argument while I agree to everything else you say as you talk sense. Why would anyone spend their time and energy on proving something that works. What’s in it for them :). If he’s a scammer, it will fail. If ones a winner what’s in it for him to prove it works. Out of my league.
And risk the system get stolen
Quote from: luckyfella on Oct 05, 02:39 PM 2018
And risk the system get stolen
There is no system that wins, so that’s the least of any ones worries.
Quote from: Tinsoldiers on Oct 05, 10:04 AM 2018Seriously I don’t understand this argument while I agree to everything else you say as you talk sense. Why would anyone spend their time and energy on proving something that works. What’s in it for them :)
Good question, what's in it for them? But you could also ask why certain members feel the need to boast about their supposedly infallible systems. Is it mere attention seeking? or perhaps they feel that they're doing us mere mortals a favor by giving us hope to carry on the search. If that's the case, why not actually demonstrate that their systems work instead of offering mere words?
Turbo claimed he never lost and put a lot of effort into his posts, but getting to the top of the mpr leaderboard would have been much more eloquent, yet somehow he was never able to do it.
QuoteThere is no system that wins, so that’s the least of any ones worries.
I agree. :thumbsup:
Quote from: Joe on Oct 05, 03:37 PM 2018
Good question, what's in it for them? But you could also ask why certain members feel the need to boast about their supposedly infallible systems. Is it mere attention seeking? or perhaps they feel that they're doing us mere mortals a favor by giving us hope to carry on the search. If that's the case, why not actually demonstrate that their systems work instead of offering mere words?
Turbo claimed he never lost and put a lot of effort into his posts, but getting to the top of the mpr leaderboard would have been much more eloquent, yet somehow he was never able to do it.
Because his system didn't work any better than just random guessing.
If you're talking about his bet selection, yes I agree.
Come to the dark side..
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Quote from: Tinsoldiers on Oct 05, 02:55 PM 2018
There is no system that wins, so that’s the least of any ones worries.
(Fill in your name) believe no system wins [itlr]
No surprise there
Quote from: Joe on Oct 05, 03:37 PM 2018
Good question, what's in it for them? But you could also ask why certain members feel the need to boast about their supposedly infallible systems. Is it mere attention seeking? or perhaps they feel that they're doing us mere mortals a favor by giving us hope to carry on the search. If that's the case, why not actually demonstrate that their systems work instead of offering mere words?
Turbo claimed he never lost and put a lot of effort into his posts, but getting to the top of the mpr leaderboard would have been much more eloquent, yet somehow he was never able to do it.
I agree. :thumbsup:
Yup, Mpr is the gold standard :thumbsup:
Quote from: PassionRuleta on Oct 05, 03:50 AM 2018
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PassionRuletta, how many numbers does Diksexlic play? 1 - 3?
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No, the form of dyksexlic plays on the fly to several and sometimes to many. :xd:
The other form that plays between 1-3 numbers is something more advanced that we have created on the dijkstra algorithm, it is something of our own. :thumbsup:
Ok what is the maximum numbers that Diksexlic plays?
Quote from: PassionRuleta on Oct 05, 05:11 PM 2018
I repeat, why should I bother to try to win in a simulator?
Because actions speak louder than words?
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A simulator is nothing like a roulette game, nor a dealer, I assure you, but do the tests.
Now you're just contradicting yourself. dyksexlic claims he wins whether RNG or real spins, what's RNG if not a simulator?
I don't get it. All these people (Turbo, dyksexic, reddwarf etc etc) are made out to be heroes and gurus based on what exactly? Nothing apart from talk, hints, bluster and self-promotion, there isn't a shred of real evidence that they have holy grails.
Now I enjoy tinkering with and playing systems, and it does get annoying sometimes hearing the constant refrain of "it won't work" or "it's a fallacy", but although I have done pretty well playing roulette with systems, I don't claim that there is or can be such a thing as an infallible one. I'm not saying that there aren't good and bad systems, but eventually they all tank and anyone who believes that they can just mindlessly play the same system forever and keep winning is deluding themselves.
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**I don't get it. All these people (Turbo, dyksexic, reddwarf etc etc) are made out to be heroes and gurus based on what exactly? Nothing apart from talk, hints, bluster and self-promotion, there isn't a shred of real evidence that they have holy grails. **
Very well said :thumbsup:
Yes it's good to see some reason, instead of blindly and naively believing unsubstantiated claims.
There have been many others, but dyksexic was just another troll posting nonsense, and some people were stupid enough to believe him. Sorry its just the truth.
Quote from: Joe on Oct 06, 03:34 AM 2018I'm not saying that there aren't good and bad systems, but eventually they all tank and anyone who believes that they can just mindlessly play the same system forever and keep winning is deluding themselves.
Exactly Joe.
Joe why do you think i collect all spins and then place how the non-hit come.
I have data for airball, the General's starburst numbers, you're UK i believe, i have FOBT's and last but not lease, the recommended Random.org, by the great General and even Tuner.
Joe they are all the same data.
I posted 34 spins from corals and won 81 units, by just watching how the non-hits come.
As Winkel says watch the TROT of if you like 1/37 spins, those starting 37 non-hit have an average
Joe
The question where to post, so here hope not cluttering this thread.
Above said best to just watch.
This on the gold standard MPR, Steve could if he wantd get the programmer to find these spins, but guess he won't, don't suit his agenda.
It started bets for non-hit, then repeats with R1's to go to R2 and again R2's to go to R3
+546
Here is the laminated sheet, probably a bit messy, so here is the countback sheet as well
See the 9. 7. 12 going perfect for the averages.
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Taotie or Bombus or what ever AKA you use, where you on as Monkey has landed sounds about right for an idiot like you.
Heres my point....
With proper testing, you'll find almost every system here has the same bet selection accuracy.
The belief some systems are better than others is fallacy.
Rather, some system last longer because of the variation of amount of numbers bet and unit size. That doesn't make a system better. If you want to vary the speed of winning or losing, an easier way is vary your bets. It's the same thing.
Inexperienced players look at a bankroll trend chart climbing and think thats proof of winning. It's just proof of variance, and that progression will usually give short term winnings.... before you lose it all and more.
It's not opinion. Just test. Test the damn thing properly then you won't be arguing.
Or if you prefer to be deluded, argue and don't test properly.
The only way to win consistently is increase the accuracy of predictions to be high enough to overcome the unfair payouts.
You have to be stupid or really inexperienced to think repeaters, hot numbers, changing systems etc does that. Test properly. It's not debatable. It's clear.
Read this again.
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where did I leave my white stick, come Max, come boy, Max come
You 2 experts are the blind leading the blind
Muttley do something
Quote from: nottophammer on Oct 06, 06:44 AM 2018This on the gold standard MPR, Steve could if he wantd get the programmer to find these spins, but guess he won't, don't suit his agenda.
Notto you dimwitted clown, why would i care about finding short term spins where your hg won something?
We all know you lose on mpr with larger tests. You're deceiving people by showing your short term wins and acting you haven't lost miserably on mpr. Start telling people the truth about your mpr results.
Don't attack me for that. You're misleading people.
Quote from: nottophammer on Oct 06, 07:01 AM 2018
You 2 experts are the blind leading the blind
Muttley do something
You don't need to be an expert to see youre basically lying to people.
If only Max could read Steve, he'd tell me what a load of bollox you spout
So your overall result in mpr is profit, or loss? Think about your answer carefully.
Tell me again, whos speaking shit?
Don't crack the shits at me. You're the one lying. Im just calling you out on it.
Last train's eleven, it's now quarter past
Why are you trying to make the evening move so fast
Steve’s in real trouble he can't go back home
They locked the doors and He’s left out alone
You can come to my place and sleep on the couch
Lots of people do it and we won't leave you out
Hard times in the casino Steve
Hard times, hard to beat the casino Steve
The painted lies they all hand you
Steve’s a loser on the road
Steve’s a loser on the road, yeah
Huston station and it's cold as ice
All night specials, they move you on
But Notto and Winkel over there
They got this thing where they really take care
You can come to my place and sleep on the couch
Lots of people do it and we won't leave you out
Steve, Hard times in the casino
Steve, Hard times, the casino’s hard to beat
The painted lies they all handed you
Steve’s a loser on the road
Steve’s a loser on the road, yeah
Steve’s a loser, Steve’s a loser
Steve’s a loser
.. and you just made an ass of yourself again.
There will still be a few naive fools. But anyone with a brain knows you better :thumbsup:
Why would a game be at the casino if the house didnt eventually win. Perhaps the players like high school kids who never grow up but glad to see people give it a crack. The only way is to hope for some short term luck then get the hell out but good luck to those and I guess it keeps the debate going for eternity. Or you have some fun if you enjoy the excitment of winning. Everyone playing roulette is on a merry go round but some never get off. You are like the ball in the roulette wheel where the casino is rubbing their hands some trapped within that wheel for their lifetime. Some move on some dont. Everyone has their method I guess. Over the last 3 years I have now shifted my focus on the forex and am making consistant profits between 10-20% per month. 2 years to go for me and that is how compounding sets you up for life. You are smart people but I guess in reality perhaps some are not that smart. Everyone has their opinion and this is mine. My last post.....over and out!
Notto, Ive done nothing wrong here. Ive just called your bullshit. Its the same reason some others have vendettas against me.
Like the others, you need to grow up and look at yourself. You're your problem, not me. Don't blame me.
The worst case is mark howe who accused me of ruining his life when all i did was defend myself against his lies. Rather than come clean, he tried harder and sunk further.
Honesty can make anyone a target, when their honesty embarrasses someone and reveals their deception, and they try to reverse damage they did to themselves by more of the same.
It's your problem to deal with. Don't blame others.
Yes betting king, there are many ways to make money. Roulette is not the easiest way, mainly because you can't win huge amounts easily without the limitation of needing to avoid detection. Winning is actually not hard at all.
Quote from: Steve on Oct 06, 07:54 AM 2018It's your problem to deal with. Don't blame others.
Steve no problem even on FOBT's in UK.
Steve don't remember who said, but some will win; some will lose, Steve; some win like you, even without your computer.
Perhaps when you lost for X amount of time, you convinced yourself that other's couldn't win.
But don't judge all form your past experiences.
Did you like the Loser by UFO
Quote from: PassionRuleta on Oct 06, 12:04 PM 2018Steve, you can not say that the one way to win is by adjusting the predictions, because that is not correct,
Actually it is correct. Only someone who doesn't understand basic math would say otherwise.
Quote from: PassionRuleta on Oct 06, 12:04 PM 2018as of today it is very difficult not to be detected with a computer in your pocket, ear or shoe or in the ass
Actually it's very easy unless you win very large sums. Then it's suspicious.
Quote from: PassionRuleta on Oct 06, 12:04 PM 2018this is like selling drugs, you can be very good at selling drugs, but you can not live your whole life selling drugs, because someday they will catch you and they will put you years and years in jail.
Not according to my lawyer. And we have written legal advice from the majority of jurisdictions with roulette. But you know better than them...
Quote from: PassionRuleta on Oct 06, 12:04 PM 2018Not only because they can put you in jail, but because the visual ballistics, the casino already knows it 10 years ago and they already know how to identify and how to make these computer players be expelled or lose their money.
You've got no idea, so focus on you and your 4 friends raising the $50 to code your hg. I'll focus on my methods.
Quote from: PassionRuleta on Oct 06, 12:04 PM 2018I do not care what you say about dyksexlic, because you can not comment on something that has no idea how it works.
Neither do you considering you say things contradictory to him. Besides he was just a troll with a few people gullible enough to believe claims.
Quote from: PassionRuleta on Oct 06, 12:04 PM 2018What does notto do, is not bad
Lying about mpr results is good?
Quote from: PassionRuleta on Oct 06, 12:04 PM 2018you would know that you will never have the option to lose in 37 balls.
Yet talkers like notto has to lie about mpr results, and you with your team of 5 can't afford $10 each
Quote from: PassionRuleta on Oct 06, 12:04 PM 2018The prediction, worked ten years ago, now it does not work anymore and less will work in mpr or the simulator roulette, because they have to know the speed of ball and rotor, diamonds and then the offset and other things of bouncing ball, apart the croupier launch the type of ball, the type of orbit, etc. etc. THAT DOES NOT WORK, THE CASINOS ARE NOT FOOLISH, NOR ME.
Actually we beat almost every wheel with 20%+ edge
Quote from: PassionRuleta on Oct 06, 12:04 PM 2018I know very well the Balisita and several computers thanks to friends who paid for it, I know many knowledge of the game, I've been looking for 13 ways to win in any way possible and I've learned many things and I've checked over 200 softwares and there's nothing that works, AND IT GIVES ME LIKE YOU SAY THE CONTRARY OR THAT YOU THINK THAT HERE YOU ARE THE ONLY EXPERT OR EXPERIENCED.
Try gofundme.com to raise your $50 to code your hg. Thats what all experts do.
Quote from: PassionRuleta on Oct 06, 12:04 PM 2018The only way to win is with math, do it as Turbo, Vaddis or Dyksexlic, as long as you do it correctly and know what you are doing, you win, whether you like it or not.
Actually the math is that 35 is less than 37. You don't understand it but that's your problem.
Quote from: PassionRuleta on Oct 06, 12:04 PM 2018YOU ARE NOT GOD AND YOU KNOW EVERYTHING.
I know, but my brain works.
Quote from: Steve on Oct 06, 01:43 PM 2018
Try gofundme.com to raise your $50 to code your hg. Thats what all experts do.
:twisted: That's a great idea I'm going to try that myself.
Quoteand you with your team of 5 can't afford $10 each
have to admit..this one is good one
yes displexic mlexi pssion massion full of shitt patern mattern breaks and so on and on and on
PassionRuletta what do you think is the maximum amount of numbers that Diksexlick goes up to while following the wheel and stepping the progression?
Quote from: PassionRuleta on Oct 09, 07:26 PM 2018
Well I want to leave a graph so you can see how dyksexlic behaves in a few balls, for those who doubt that dyksexlic is not real ... :thumbsup: :lol:
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I didnt read the thread so not sure what version of your system you mean by dyksexlic. But if your comparing this to the original poster dysexlic this isnt correct.
Yes your bankroll goes up... but his session doesnt end on a loss. Maybe im understanding your graph wrong not sure....
Run a random system in rx over 500 spins a few times and post the charts. Dont cherry pick results, show us.
Quote from: PassionRuleta on Oct 09, 08:02 PM 2018
Money, you're right, dyksexlic uses a progression for that reason with only one hit wins, but I've been investigating how to do it without progression and it's also possible, it gives very good results without the progesion he uses.
regards :thumbsup:
Yes i agree without progression you can still win overall if you understand the method. Wish you the best with everything and :-X
Quote from: Steve on Oct 09, 07:36 PM 2018
Run a random system in rx over 500 spins a few times and post the charts. Dont cherry pick results, show us.
steve, Can you checkout my math topic?
Quote from: PassionRuleta on Oct 09, 08:16 PM 2018
That means that you also know how it works, right? :lol: :lol:
Alright!! You two will skype and exchange infos! :lol: :lol:
Quote from: MoneyT101 on Oct 09, 08:17 PM 2018
steve, Can you checkout my math topic?
He can't, your topic disappeared within the last 6 hours !
Quote from: MoneyT101 on Oct 09, 08:09 PM 2018
Yes i agree without progression you can still win overall if you understand the method. Wish you the best with everything and :-X
Could you or passion link me to the thread that helped you understand his method?