#1 Roulette Forum Message Board

Roulette-focused => Main Roulette Board => Topic started by: Tekunda on Oct 02, 06:44 PM 2018

Title: Pattern Breaker Reloaded-Daily updates
Post by: Tekunda on Oct 02, 06:44 PM 2018
Since I was not able to obtain any feedback by members still playing Pattern Breaker, I decided to go ahead and record my results myself.
I have not played PB before so this is all new to me.
I play at the Dragonara Online Casino at an airball roulette machine about 2 coups per minute.
PB is quite time consuming because it takes between 30 and 60 coups until the pattern you end up playing against will show up.
Each game consists of 5 sessions.
Yesterday I started with a 2 € unit size and won my 5 sessions, giving me total of 10€ profit.
It took me 2.5 hours to reach my goal.
Today I increased the unit size to 4€ and I was lucky again and won my 5 sessions with a 20€ profit. It took 3 hours.
Tomorrow I plan to increase the unit size to 8€.
Oh, I forget to mention that I use a 1-2-4 progression.
I will try to keep you updated for as long as I keep playing the Pattern Breaker system.
Title: Re: Pattern Breaker Reloaded-Daily updates
Post by: Let Me Win on Oct 02, 08:37 PM 2018
Someone kindly made a tracker for playing this system which I've attached in case you didn't have it. 
Title: Re: Pattern Breaker Reloaded-Daily updates
Post by: Robbert on Oct 03, 03:32 AM 2018
Great, Very interested in PB. The topic has 222 pages. Is there a summary how to play the system correctly?
Title: Re: Pattern Breaker Reloaded-Daily updates
Post by: ego on Oct 03, 03:33 AM 2018
Tekunda my advice ...
You mention that you will raise your bets, then you will lose everything back to the casino.
Use regression, now is time to lower you bet size and operate with casino money.

If you are interested I can show you Regression Up & Pull progression where you both operate with casino money and use positive staking to with more money, increasing your bets.

Cheers
Title: Re: Pattern Breaker Reloaded-Daily updates
Post by: Robbert on Oct 03, 04:29 AM 2018
Alright got it i think.

A question, when you Bert say LLL.

You always bet the 2,4,8 progression? So no matter you lose or win the bet?
Title: Re: Pattern Breaker Reloaded-Daily updates
Post by: Let Me Win on Oct 03, 04:30 AM 2018
Great, Very interested in PB. The topic has 222 pages. Is there a summary how to play the system correctly?

The original rules have been improved and I have listed them here:

Track the numbers as they are spun in groups of 3 spins at a time.  (If zero shows whilst tracking ignore it)

Each group of 3 spins will be a combination of either ODD EVEN RED BLACK HIGH OR LOW

The full list is here:

HHH   RRR   OOO
LLL   BBB   EEE
HLH   RBR   OEO
LHL   BRB   EOE
HHL   RRB   OOE
LLH   BBR   EEO
HLL   RBB   OEE
LHH   BRR   EOO

Each time a pattern of 3 appears cross it out on the list until there is only one pattern left in either the Red/Black or High/Low or Odd/Even list.

When there is only one pattern left you immediately start betting against it using a 1-2-4 martingale.

This is the main difference to the original method in so much as we let the wheel choose our bet.

On average you should have a bet selection after 40 spins of tracking.

If you lose a game you will have lost 7 units.  People regularly report winning streaks of well over ten games without a loss so the occasional 7 unit loss should not hurt too much as every won game makes you 1 unit of profit.
Title: Re: Pattern Breaker Reloaded-Daily updates
Post by: ego on Oct 03, 04:42 AM 2018

This is how today's random bits look like:

Code: [Select]
1	1	1 111
1 1 1
1 1 1
2 1 2 212
1 1 1
2 2 1 221
1 2 1 121
1 2 1
1 1 2 112
1 2 1
2 1 1 211
2 2 1
2 1 1
2 2 2 222
2 1 2 W
1 1 1
2 2 1
2 1 2
2 2 1
2 1 2
1 2 2

2 1 2 212
2 2 1 221
2 1 2
1 2 2 122
2 2 2 222
2 1 2
2 2 1
1 2 2
2 1 2
2 1 1 211
2 2 1
2 1 2
2 2 2
2 1 1
2 2 2
1 2 1 121
1 2 2
2 1 2
2 1 1
1 1 2 112
2 1 1 W
2 1 1
2 2 1
1 2 2

2 2 1 221
2 2 2 222
1 1 1 111
2 2 1
1 1 1
2 2 1
1 2 2 122
1 2 1 121
2 1 1 211
1 2 2
1 1 2 112
1 2 1 W
2 2 1
1 1 2
2 2 1
1 2 1
2 2 1
2 2 1
1 1 1
1 1 2
1 2 1
2 2 2
1 2 2
1 2 2
1 1 1
1 2 1
1 2 1
1 2 1
1 1 1
2 1 2

1 2 1 121
1 1 1 111
2 2 1 221
1 1 1
2 1 1 211
1 2 2 122
2 2 2 222
1 2 2
2 1 1
2 2 2
1 2 2
1 1 1
2 1 2 212
1 2 2 LW
1 1 1
1 1 1
2 2 2
2 2 1
2 2 1
1 1 2
2 2 1
1 1 1
2 1 2
1 2 2
1 2 2

Now think you won W W W LW and if you would have been playing 2 4 8 you would have made 8 units and have to win 3 times more before you break even - that is stupid - why would you risk your money and maybe give it all back to the casino.
For example, if you staking 2 2 6 and after a win staking 2 4 6 then stop - winning twice and +4 units - now you can almost operate with casino money and not risk your own money.
Let's say you staking 1 1 3 and after a win 1 2 3 - then you up to +6 units and you can not lose your own money.
Then you can choose to continue to regress or increase your bets.

Cheers
Title: Re: Pattern Breaker Reloaded-Daily updates
Post by: Tekunda on Oct 03, 06:52 AM 2018
Someone kindly made a tracker for playing this system which I've attached in case you didn't have it.

Very kind of you. 👍
Title: Re: Pattern Breaker Reloaded-Daily updates
Post by: Tekunda on Oct 03, 07:15 AM 2018
The original rules have been improved and I have listed them here:

Track the numbers as they are spun in groups of 3 spins at a time.  (If zero shows whilst tracking ignore it)

Each group of 3 spins will be a combination of either ODD EVEN RED BLACK HIGH OR LOW

The full list is here:

HHH   RRR   OOO
LLL   BBB   EEE
HLH   RBR   OEO
LHL   BRB   EOE
HHL   RRB   OOE
LLH   BBR   EEO
HLL   RBB   OEE
LHH   BRR   EOO

Each time a pattern of 3 appears cross it out on the list until there is only one pattern left in either the Red/Black or High/Low or Odd/Even list.

When there is only one pattern left you immediately start betting against it using a 1-2-4 martingale.

This is the main difference to the original method in so much as we let the wheel choose our bet.

On average you should have a bet selection after 40 spins of tracking.

If you lose a game you will have lost 7 units.  People regularly report winning streaks of well over ten games without a loss so the occasional 7 unit loss should not hurt too much as every won game makes you 1 unit of profit.

Let's say numbers 27-7-28 have spun.
So you immediately  would cross out the following 3 combinations on your list:
HLH RRB OOE
and you keep doing this until one of the blocks: high/low red/black odd/even has only one combination left.
As soon as this happens you play against this combination.
Is that the correct way to play the updated version?
One question:
After you have played against the combination, do you discard the tracking results and start tracking anew for the next session?
Or do you keep tracking the other two blocks of combinations?
Because this would speed up the game play as the results of the left-over blocks of combinations are not discarded and the next combination to play  against would show much earlier?
Title: Re: Pattern Breaker Reloaded-Daily updates
Post by: Let Me Win on Oct 03, 01:11 PM 2018
Yes, that is the correct way to play it.

As for the second part of the question my preference would be to just play one game a day using a high stake such as  £50 , £100 , £200,

So I either win £50 a day or lose £350 trying.

Should only be played on a single zero wheel offering  ‘La Partage’ rules for obvious reasons.
Title: Re: Pattern Breaker Reloaded-Daily updates
Post by: ozon on Oct 03, 01:37 PM 2018
Unfortunately, this does not have the slightest chance of success, and the time you devote will not be adequate to profit
This bet selection does not give an edge and only isolates the selection process.
Why is this so because I tried to make better bet selections with a limited marty and all unfortunately did not give the expected results.
Profits were too miserable to make sense.

I will say, the best profits from the appropriate bet selection gave 5 step marty, which caught on target profit 4 units per session, and 5 sessions a day hit n run.

It also quite well expended 1-1-3, the profit 1 unit label 5 sessions a day.

But you have unrealistic expectations of profit, because you think that you will win every session, and in reality you will lose a lot of sessions.
If you will be lucky with frequent playing like 5 sessions a day, you griding out abot 5-10 units per month and that's only with a better bet selection than PB.


Sputnik has all the rations that it's better to play for casino money.
I would approach it like that.

Title: Re: Pattern Breaker Reloaded-Daily updates
Post by: ozon on Oct 03, 01:48 PM 2018

I would reverse the staking process completely
I would use a short positive progression, i.e. up after winning.
3-1-1 stop
Target profit 9 units, stop lose 10 units
If you are unlucky and lose immediately 3 bets stop session.

I tried to griding out the profit.

In the long run it does not make sense, but in the short run you can get lucky sometimes.
Title: Re: Pattern Breaker Reloaded-Daily updates
Post by: Tekunda on Oct 03, 03:59 PM 2018
Today was another lucky day. I played another 5 winning sessions, which gave me thirty Euros profits, as I used 6€ units instead of 8€ per unit (which I had planned initially). I thought it might be a good idea to increase the unit size more slowly.
I will stick to 6€ units for another 4 sessions.
If I loose one session I will stick to the 6€ unit size while trying to recover, not increasing the progression.
Once recovered I will increase the unit size to 8€ and take it from there.
I do have one complaint about the method though.
It is quite boring. It really takes between 2.5 to 3 hours to play 5 sessions. There is nothing you can do to speed up game play aside from the method mentioned here by including the other EC.
Title: Re: Pattern Breaker Reloaded-Daily updates
Post by: Tekunda on Oct 04, 03:24 PM 2018
I decided to increase the betting size to €8 per unit.
I did win my five sessions today in roughly 2 hours giving me a nice profit of €40.
Title: Re: Pattern Breaker Reloaded-Daily updates
Post by: Robbert on Oct 04, 05:25 PM 2018
Nice! What is the BR you use?
Title: Re: Pattern Breaker Reloaded-Daily updates
Post by: Tekunda on Oct 04, 05:52 PM 2018
Nice! What is the BR you use?

I started out with a balance of €30 and today's balance is €130.
I think from now on I will not increase my unit size (€8) until my first loss.
I have now played 4 days *5 sessions which is a total of 20 sessions without a loss.
So I assume I am getting closer to  my first loosing session. Maybe I even should decrease the size to €6  so that any loss is paid only by the profit I made.
Once the first loss occurs I will try to recoup it by playing 7 sessions, not increasing the unit size during the recovery process.
Hopefully I will be able to make up for my losses during these 7 sessions.
In case I am lucky I will continue to increase the unit size thereafter in €2 steps every 5 games.
Should I run into a loss during recovery, I will try a second recovery process by increasing the betting size from €6 to 9€.
Title: Re: Pattern Breaker Reloaded-Daily updates
Post by: Robbert on Oct 05, 06:07 AM 2018
28 wins, no losses yet!
Title: Re: Pattern Breaker Reloaded-Daily updates
Post by: Tekunda on Oct 06, 10:25 AM 2018
Yesterday 5 games won, €7x5= €35 profit.

Today I incurred my first loss at the €8 unit stage during the third of five sessions.
A total loss of this progression would be:
€56 - €8 - €8 = €40
(game one and game 2 won, giving me a profit of €16, which I must deduct from the total loss of €56 (1- 2 - 4 progression at €8 per unit).
Now I will work to clear the loss by continuing to play 5 sessions a day leaving the progression at 1-2-4. I am not sure though if I should continue to increase the unit size at least one Euro to €9 or leave everything like it is and start increasing after I have cleared the loss.
We will see how I feel tomorrow.
Title: Re: Pattern Breaker Reloaded-Daily updates
Post by: Tekunda on Oct 06, 11:11 AM 2018
Is somebody familiar with the Dragonara Casino in Malta?
They have life casino tables and airball roulette what they call auto roulette.
I would like to know if the airball roulette is a real roulette or if it is just a rng roulette hiding behind the computer animation?
Title: Re: Pattern Breaker Reloaded-Daily updates
Post by: Let Me Win on Oct 06, 04:28 PM 2018
Airball is RNG in my opinion and probably never offers  ‘La Partage' rules?

Play one game a day only.   No boredom and less exposure to the house edge.

To make this worthwhile you need to play for a high unit.

Use a bankroll of £5000 which covers you for 7 sessions and play each session with a martingale of £100 £200 £400 to win £100 a day.

Commence operations on the the 1st of the month and should you survive the first week the rest of the month gives you opportunity for 100$ risk free profits.

Treat zero as a full loss but receive half of your stake back to offset any future losses or even give you an extra bonus win that day should you win the next leg of the progression.

Yes, the martingale is bad but this is not really a martingale it is a flat bet of 7 units each session and should be thought of accordingly.
Title: Re: Pattern Breaker Reloaded-Daily updates
Post by: Tinsoldiers on Oct 06, 04:51 PM 2018
Since I was not able to obtain any feedback by members still playing Pattern Breaker, I decided to go ahead and record my results myself.
I have not played PB before so this is all new to me.
It is not worth it. I have played exactly like I was told to play by John legend and it was obvious after a few days that how good a scammer he is.
Title: Re: Pattern Breaker Reloaded-Daily updates
Post by: Let Me Win on Oct 06, 04:59 PM 2018
It all really boils down to the question is betting any 3 random even money bets any different than waiting for the pattern breaker?

People already coded it and told us that it doesn't.

But it is nonetheless a good a bet selection as anything else.  (All bets are the same.)

If you personally can manage a higher than 1 in 8 win rate than you will make money.



Title: Re: Pattern Breaker Reloaded-Daily updates
Post by: Tekunda on Oct 06, 07:02 PM 2018
It is not worth it. I have played exactly like I was told to play by John legend and it was obvious after a few days that how good a scammer he is.
You call him a scammer?
In which way did he profit from other people?
Title: Re: Pattern Breaker Reloaded-Daily updates
Post by: Steve on Oct 06, 07:11 PM 2018
JL was one on many who used others to test his theories for him. Thats the scam.

There are other similar ones, and people are too naive.
Title: Re: Pattern Breaker Reloaded-Daily updates
Post by: Tekunda on Oct 06, 07:16 PM 2018
It all really boils down to the question is betting any 3 random even money bets any different than waiting for the pattern breaker?

People already coded it and told us that it doesn't.

But it is nonetheless a good a bet selection as anything else.  (All bets are the same.)

If you personally can manage a higher than 1 in 8 win rate than you will make money.

I am already at a point where I cannot loose my own money anymore if I do not increase the stakes too much.
I am curious if these long winning streaks, John was talking about, do exist
I have already experienced a streak of 25 consecutive wins.
He also mentions he never experienced a back to back loss. So maybe I should double up on my progression in order to recoup my losses faster.
On the other hand I am not really in a rush. I have planned to stick to the PB rules for a whole month, not only to see if PB is worth the effort, but also as a training exercise in patience, as PB is a really slow way of betting.
Title: Re: Pattern Breaker Reloaded-Daily updates
Post by: Tekunda on Oct 06, 07:22 PM 2018
JL was one on many who used others to test his theories for him. Thats the scam.

There are other similar ones, and people are too naive.
Apparently English is not my native language, but calling John a scammer because of the reasons you mentioned?
Maybe he was taking advantage of people, but it looks like he is not a member here anyway, so it doesn't matter anymore.
Title: Re: Pattern Breaker Reloaded-Daily updates
Post by: Steve on Oct 06, 07:25 PM 2018
JL did the same scam under different usenames. I checked his IP to confirm. When one idea was tested and proven useless, he created a new username for a new idea.

When i explained what i found,  his blind supporters attacked me and accused me of censoring the hg.

If you follow his and broad concepts with nothing solid, you'll run in circles always wondering what you're missing from the hg. If you have something solid, chances are it wouldnt even be tested properly.

It does matter still because people still fall for his scam.
Title: Re: Pattern Breaker Reloaded-Daily updates
Post by: RouletteGhost on Oct 06, 07:37 PM 2018
This method works fine

Wins a lot more than it loses

With discipline it’s a sure shot.

It’s time consuming. So $1 units isn’t worth it
Title: Re: Pattern Breaker Reloaded-Daily updates
Post by: luckyfella on Oct 06, 09:17 PM 2018
It is not worth it. I have played exactly like I was told to play by John legend and it was obvious after a few days that how good a scammer he is.
Why didn't you report your findings back then ?
I was waiting for it
You went all quiet
Ofc JL PB is a 50-50 bet
Anyone with a functioning brain in between their ears know that
You get fools on here still not accepting something so simple
That't their problem anyway

I will say this again

The ONLY way to gain edge in this game is the proper use of math in the design of your method/system

No math zero chance

You write a wall of text
Or you get a mob to support shit
It won't change the facts
Title: Re: Pattern Breaker Reloaded-Daily updates
Post by: luckyfella on Oct 06, 09:26 PM 2018
JL did the same scam under different usenames. I checked his IP to confirm. When one idea was tested and proven useless, he created a new username for a new idea.

When i explained what i found,  his blind supporters attacked me and accused me of censoring the hg.

If you follow his and broad concepts with nothing solid, you'll run in circles always wondering what you're missing from the hg. If you have something solid, chances are it wouldnt even be tested properly.

It does matter still because people still fall for his scam.
This type of scams work because we get low life arse licking idiots(the real culprits) worshipping such shit!
Title: Re: Pattern Breaker Reloaded-Daily updates
Post by: Steve on Oct 06, 11:10 PM 2018
This type of scams work because we get low life arse licking idiots(the real culprits) worshipping such shit!

When anyone claims to have the hg, and gives vague but interesting clues, the are always at least a few suckers.

The ONLY way to gain edge in this game is the proper use of math in the design of your method/system

The math is just probabilities and payouts. It is not the "cause" of probabilities, and with the way its usually used,  cannot increase accuracy of predictions. It's like saying there will be around half red half black.  That doesn't help at all.

Math is useful for finding relevant statistical anomalies. But that doesn't include things like repeater which are just misunderstood basic probability.
Title: Re: Pattern Breaker Reloaded-Daily updates
Post by: Steve on Oct 07, 12:09 AM 2018
This method works fine

Wins a lot more than it loses

With discipline it’s a sure shot.

It’s time consuming. So $1 units isn’t worth it

No rg, its as useless as almost every other system. If it really won more than it lost, we'd have long term winning players everywhere.

Just a bit of logic and reasonable testing goes a long way.
Title: Re: Pattern Breaker Reloaded-Daily updates
Post by: luckyfella on Oct 07, 12:42 AM 2018
The math is just probabilities and payouts. It is not the "cause" of probabilities, and with the way its usually used,  cannot increase accuracy of predictions. It's like saying there will be around half red half black.  That doesn't help at all.

Math is useful for finding relevant statistical anomalies. But that doesn't include things like repeater which are just misunderstood basic probability.
Anyone can write broad brush general surface level comment. Plenty in fact
Forum is not the platform to discuss this

(Fill in your name) post tells a lot about your math knowledge
Title: Re: Pattern Breaker Reloaded-Daily updates
Post by: Steve on Oct 07, 04:40 AM 2018
Lucky, Ive been very specific many times. It doesn't help.

(https://pics.me.me/nothing-goes-over-my-head-my-reflexes-are-too-fast-19286086.png)
Title: Re: Pattern Breaker Reloaded-Daily updates
Post by: -Katalyst- on Oct 07, 07:51 PM 2018
Well said Steve!  ;)
- Just like our slow friend 'Drax' - you & Caleb are missing what some of the apt system players on here are sharing, but then again - acumen suggests otherwise!  ::)

** It doesn’t matter what you or any other AP/VB expert on here has to say about roulette being random & the only way to win is blah blah
**the certainty is that the opportunity is there for the player to lose ....should he choose to! 
 
Title: Re: Pattern Breaker Reloaded-Daily updates
Post by: Steve on Oct 07, 08:31 PM 2018
Nobody is immune to ignorance. I dont say something doesn't work without proper understanding.

It doesn’t matter what you or any other AP/VB expert on here has to say about roulette being random & the only way to win is blah blah

Here's an example. The only way to win is by increasing the accuracy of predictions. I don't say AP is the only way to do that. i say there are other possible ways to do it, which aren't traditional AP.

I'll be more specific. Say someone says "the law of a third can work because you'll never see 37 unique numbers in 37 spins".

This is nonsense because.......

* Any sequence of spins is just as likely as another.

* The probability is at least some numbers will be repeats. Each number has 1 in 37 probability. If say the first number was 32. The probability is that there's a 1 in 37 chance it will be 32 on the next spin again. But if the next number is 35, then we have two unique numbers (32 & 35). So on the next spin, there's a 2/37 chance the next number will be a repeat. The more spins we have, the higher the chance there will be a repeat. This isnt because of some magical law. It's just basic probability.

* I and many others have tested extensively, and no matter what magical law you think exists, the probability with random spins hasn't changed. You're still stuck at 1 in 37 on the next spin. Turbo's nonsense about 2 is after 1, 3 is after 2 is pointless. Random means 1 in 37.
 
The problem with many members is they think these points is me being ignorant. Actually it's me understanding basic probability, while they don't understand it. Because they lack proper understanding, they find it easy to accuse me of being ignorant or biased.

Another example is how people think progression helps you win. It doesnt.

A player may think a progression like 1,2,4,8 etc helps. Sure you can get lucky and win big... OR lose all winnings and more. Such a progression appears connected, but all you have is this:

Spin 1: Bet 1 unit, with probability of winning 1/37
Spin 2: Bet 2 units, with probability of winning 1/37
Spin 3: Bet 4 units, with probability of winning 1/37
Spin 3: Bet 8 units, with probability of winning 1/37

None of it is complicated. In this case, progression hasn't helped. It has just increased the amount we risk.

Progression is useless, except it can help you reach your target profit sooner, if you already have an edge.

For example, in my public demo I win 93% of spins betting 15 numbers. This is with flat betting only. Because wins are so frequent, I could safely use progression to compound profits. The probabilities haven't changed (still same advantage). But because I have the edge, the long term result comes quicker. If you have a negative edge and use progression, you'll likely profit for a while, but then lose everything and more.

Anyway it has all been said before. It appears because most systems are much more complicated, the player doesn't understand they've just repackaged the same shit.
Title: Re: Pattern Breaker Reloaded-Daily updates
Post by: RouletteGhost on Oct 07, 08:44 PM 2018
Someone mentioned scam

It’s only a scam if it’s sold or if HG is claimed

Neither of which he did

It’s weird when certain methods are attacked.....

Let people play it for themselves


OP. Update on this?
Title: Re: Pattern Breaker Reloaded-Daily updates
Post by: -Katalyst- on Oct 07, 10:05 PM 2018
@ Steve - regarding the basic maths side of things I agree with what you are saying (and am sure you know that there is more to it than just the simple maths that is often discussed on here)
- I know you are well versed  :thumbsup:
 - & never said your ignorant but am amused by your (& Caleb's) so called receipt of information shared by a few generous system posters on here
- of course their not going to go into detail regarding their method/s
**no need to - they are not obliged to do so - and furthermore what they have provided is plenty

**when you define something it becomes limited
- so 37/38 numbers ....is that not defined? - hence a closed system? - therein lays the edge
** there are obvious parallels with nature that can be used to give one an edge with this wonderful game

**closed system = rules = know the rules and you rule your game
 - David/Dyksexlic/MIDO1/TG and now a few on here are talking about this in their own way
**maybe they have something or maybe not,  that is for the user to discern - so my agenda on here? - to let users know that there are a multitude of ways to be profitable from this alluring  game - it is not random and the people in the know, know this!

 ;)
Title: Re: Pattern Breaker Reloaded-Daily updates
Post by: Steve on Oct 07, 10:06 PM 2018
It’s only a scam if it’s sold or if HG is claimed

The official definition of "scam" depends on the dictionary. Generally "money" doesn't need to be involved. But forget the official definition for a second...

When someone knowingly misleads others to be admired, and for attention, what should be call it?

You may respond with "but you don't know he was misleading people". In that case, you need to better understand everything that happened and he said. Initially I thought he just made a mistake and actually believed what he was saying. But with more information, I came to understood he knew his system was not what he claimed.

My understanding of it is INITIALLY he actually thought he had the HG. But then when he knew otherwise, he wouldn't come clean, probably because he felt it would be embarrassing when it would have actually showed integrity. But there's another element where he clearly strung everyone along for ego, and continues to do so.

Dont get me started on how I know his method is nonsense. It has all been explained in detail before. It's rather clear.

It’s weird when certain methods are attacked.....

Because you don't understand WHY. I'll tell you why: because it's fact vs fiction, and people get harmed by the misleading information. Who cares if anyone really wins or loses. That's not the issue.

You are still saying nonsense like particular losing methods are a "sure winners". You've got no idea. It's nothing personal, but your knowledge is quite poor. This is why you aren't understanding why particular systems are "attacked". And what you call "attacks" are not personal.

Let people play it for themselves

That'd be great, if the method was clear. But it wasn't. It was a mess of jumbled and contradictory clues that had people going in circles, hanging on every word he said. It's the follower's own fault for being so gullible. But the other side is knowledgeable members point out the glaringly obvious logic flaws.

Even worse, you think us pointing out the flaws is personal.

Anyway Turbo is one of many who's full of shit. there are many others, and some people are incredibly naive.
Title: Re: Pattern Breaker Reloaded-Daily updates
Post by: Steve on Oct 07, 10:16 PM 2018
 - & never said your ignorant but am amused by your (& Caleb's) so called receipt of information shared by a few generous system posters on here
- of course their not going to go into detail regarding their method/s
**no need to - they are not obliged to do so - and furthermore what they have provided is plenty

Caleb and I share many of the same views, because we both understand it. We appear to agree on almost everything for this reason. There's nothing more to it.

**when you define something it becomes limited

If it is limited, then it is limited. Like the number of pockets.

- so 37/38 numbers ....is that not defined? - hence a closed system? - therein lays the edge

The number of pockets contains the edge?

** there are obvious parallels with nature that can be used to give one an edge with this wonderful game

Perhaps but that's somewhat vague.

 - David/Dyksexlic/MIDO1/TG and now a few on here are talking about this in their own way

And I hope people can recognize the same shit repackaged. And if they arent sure, they should know how to test properly to know if they should move on, or continue development.

**maybe they have something or maybe not,  that is for the user to discern - so my agenda on here? - to let users know that there are a multitude of ways to be profitable from this alluring  game - it is not random and the people in the know, know this!

If you know something, please give members solid principles to work with, not vague clues. Otherwise it's best to keep it to yourself.
Title: Re: Pattern Breaker Reloaded-Daily updates
Post by: RouletteGhost on Oct 07, 10:28 PM 2018
No. No clues at all

Clear......with a solid set of rules

Not sure where you got that from

Not too shabby at all. Certainly one of the better ones.

Title: Re: Pattern Breaker Reloaded-Daily updates
Post by: luckyfella on Oct 07, 10:36 PM 2018
If you know something, please give members solid principles to work with, not vague clues. Otherwise it's best to keep it to yourself.
And play it on MPR  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Pattern Breaker Reloaded-Daily updates
Post by: Steve on Oct 07, 10:39 PM 2018
No. No clues at all
Clear......with a solid set of rules

I assume you're referring to TG. Some members would say he was vague. Some would say he was very specific.

The truth is he was very specific about the principles, which he didn't understand himself. And when why I explained why his approach wont work, the answer was always something like "yeah you just dont know". So although he was specific, and I was specific, his response to explain the proof I provided was vague..... so the end explanation is basically "There's more to it. You don't have the secret sauce". But he already explained the principle which was tested and proven useless. Around in circles. There were also many contradictions from him but it has all been said before.

Anyone can give a specific system or principle that others test. And when the testing proves the approach fails, the system originator can just say "you dont know any better". And what can the response be to that? You've explained the details about why the approach fails, based on their explanation of their systems. I dont think he'd be likely to say "Shit you got me. I was wrong".

Not too shabby at all. Certainly one of the better ones.

Until it fails, and you find a new HG which is even better, until it fails and you find another. Good luck.
Title: Re: Pattern Breaker Reloaded-Daily updates
Post by: Steve on Oct 07, 10:45 PM 2018
And play it on MPR 

Well he did try MPR, but lost. Then he tried on Parx and RS where he won, and relentlessly defended Parx and RS claiming they were reputable places to test. Anyone who followed the conversations and understood the logic could see Turbo was more interested in defending his status than proving the realistic result of his system. Again it has all been said before.
Title: Re: Pattern Breaker Reloaded-Daily updates
Post by: -Katalyst- on Oct 07, 11:40 PM 2018
Same shit repackaged ....maybe?
-*maybe it's unfinished ends/leads/postulations
-*maybe it came across as 'shit' because people weren't apt or patient enough to look/find and become aware of a different way for themselves
....maybe your right, maybe not - my position stands


'Number of pockets contain the edge'?
- when you create the defined moment/game - it contains the edge
- well at least you were open to the ‘vague’ "parallels" bit  :thumbsup:

**Rules? ....clear description? - No Thanks - there's plenty of info on here and on the web to work with - when you were honing your craft - did you find all the clues in one place? - *I resolve this business is not for everybody
Perhaps people should start looking at profits as opposed to debating the ‘HG’  - or does the HG constitute unlimited profits - ‘forest from the trees’   :question:



**MPR - No Thanks - No Need To - I prefer and enjoy B/M material here in AUS

**as stated previously - My agenda on here is to let users know not to subordinate to the ideology that this game is unbeatable by the application of Systems - if one is looking - then there are ways

-will leave it at that-


 ;)
Title: Re: Pattern Breaker Reloaded-Daily updates
Post by: Tekunda on Oct 08, 12:59 AM 2018
Someone mentioned scam

It’s only a scam if it’s sold or if HG is claimed

Neither of which he did

It’s weird when certain methods are attacked.....

Let people play it for themselves


OP. Update on this?

I ran into a little issue here. I am not convinced that the airball table I play is real. I think it is a rng game with a nice computer animation.
I will switch over to the version where they have these Latvian girls working as croupiers and start from scratch.
The game frequency is about the same, one coup every 30 seconds otherwise the game becomes too boring as you need around 40 coups for the pattern to appear and I have planned 5 sessions per day which are roughly 200 coups. You need a fast table for that.
I will pause for today and start all over tomorrow on the new table with my daily updates.
Title: Re: Pattern Breaker Reloaded-Daily updates
Post by: Steve on Oct 08, 01:07 AM 2018
I am not convinced that the airball table I play is real

If you mean it's manipulated, yes it is. But probably not in the way you think. Unless it's in some dodgy jurisdiction without regulation, it wouldn't be using magnets or any approach to force a number. But it most likely would be doing things like varying rotor speed after bets close (especially in cases where late bets are allowed). Live dealer wheels can have such manipulation too (RRS rotors) but they are quite rare, and easy to spot.

For most systems, auto wheels wont make any difference.
Title: Re: Pattern Breaker Reloaded-Daily updates
Post by: Tekunda on Oct 08, 05:15 AM 2018
If you mean it's manipulated, yes it is. But probably not in the way you think. Unless it's in some dodgy jurisdiction without regulation, it wouldn't be using magnets or any approach to force a number. But it most likely would be doing things like varying rotor speed after bets close (especially in cases where late bets are allowed). Live dealer wheels can have such manipulation too (RRS rotors) but they are quite rare, and easy to spot.

For most systems, auto wheels wont make any difference.

I understand. I wouldn't mind playing at a "real" autowheel, but it seems that this particular setup is just a computer animated rng setup, only looking like an auto wheel.
The only reason I went for the Dragonara auto wheel was the frequency of 2 coups per minute.
Dragonara also has the main floor live wheel camera, but here the frequency is around one coup per 90 seconds, which is too slow for Pattern Breaker.
But I found that they have live video tables, one is called Immersion roulette table, where lovely girls turn a real wheel at about 2 coups per minute, which is o.k. for PB.
I like the Dragonara Casino, as they have transfered winnings back to my bank account without any problems.
I will start playing there Pattern Breaker from scratch again tonight or tomorrow night (depending how I feel) and update here on a regular base.
Title: Re: Pattern Breaker Reloaded-Daily updates
Post by: Tekunda on Oct 08, 05:31 AM 2018
I ran into a little issue here. I am not convinced that the airball table I play is real. I think it is a rng game with a nice computer animation.

I want to clarify better what I mean by this:
I think is not a real auto wheel with a live feed.
When you click on the table, a screen comes up, which almost looks like a live feed from a real auto wheel, but it is not, if you ask me.
I think it is just a computer animated auto wheel, powered by a rng engine.
Title: Re: Pattern Breaker Reloaded-Daily updates
Post by: Tekunda on Oct 08, 02:19 PM 2018
No session today.
I had planned to play my five sessions on the new wheel, but I didn't realize that the outside bets have a €10 minimum at the Dragonara Immersion roulette.
Since I want to be able to withstand 4 progression losses, I would need a BR of €280 (a 1-2-4 progression is €70 and this *4 = €280)
I was lacking around €50 on my account so what to do?
I said to myself if I succeed in bringing my  bank roll to €280 I will start Pattern Breaker again and this time with €10 units.
Well, a few games later just betting black and red my balance now shows €280, which means I am ready to start Pattern Breaker again.
Expect another update tomorrow evening.
Title: Re: Pattern Breaker Reloaded-Daily updates
Post by: Bigbroben on Oct 08, 02:26 PM 2018
We'll stay tuned...  !
Title: Re: Pattern Breaker Reloaded-Daily updates
Post by: RouletteGhost on Oct 08, 02:32 PM 2018
Real life sessions and testing should be what the forum is all about

Keep updating.
Title: Re: Pattern Breaker Reloaded-Daily updates
Post by: Tekunda on Oct 09, 04:10 PM 2018
Today's update playing at the new wheel:
5 sessions (€10 per session) played - 5 sessions won.
Waiting time for the patterns to show up was reasonable.
The 5 sessions took me 2 hours and thirty minutes to finish.
Title: Re: Pattern Breaker Reloaded-Daily updates
Post by: Tekunda on Oct 10, 03:42 PM 2018
Today a loosing day.
I lost the third session.
Will see how it goes tomorrow.
Title: Re: Pattern Breaker Reloaded-Daily updates
Post by: Tekunda on Oct 11, 04:49 PM 2018
5 sessions won today.
Every session was won at the very first coup of the progression, which is very nice indeed.
Since my actual losses yesterday were only €50 (yes, I lost the full progression yesterday, which is €70 loss, but since I won the first two sessions yesterday, giving me a €20 profit, my total loss was only €50 yesterday).
Today's profit was €50, so I made good on yesterday's loss.
We will see how it goes tomorrow.

One thing I would like to mention though:
The game is rather time consuming indeed.
Session 2 took a hundred coups for the pattern to show up.
So in order to play PB you need patience!
Title: Re: Pattern Breaker Reloaded-Daily updates
Post by: precogmiles on Oct 11, 04:51 PM 2018
5 sessions won today.
Every session was won at the very first coup of the progression, which is very nice indeed.
Since my actual losses yesterday were only €50 (yes, I lost the full progression yesterday, which is €70 loss, but since I won the first two sessions yesterday, giving me a €20 profit, my total loss was only €50 yesterday).
Today's profit was €50, so I made good on yesterday's loss.
We will see how it goes tomorrow.

One thing I would like to mention though:
The game is rather time consuming indeed.
Session 2 took a hundred coups for the pattern to show up.
So in order to play PB you need patience!

If you value your time at lets say .... $40 an hour is it still worth it?
Title: Re: Pattern Breaker Reloaded-Daily updates
Post by: Tekunda on Oct 11, 05:15 PM 2018
If you value your time at lets say .... $40 an hour is it still worth it?

Right now I might say no.
But it all depends how the game will continue.
I started out at €2 per unit and I am already at €10 per unit.
I plan to slowly increase the value of my units, hopefully reaching €50 per unit and aiming at €100 per unit in the future.
Then it would be very much worth my time.
A three hour, 5 session game would then give me at least €250.
But of course it is far too early to tell.
I will put in at least a month to see how it goes and where I end up money wise. But of course there is always a chance I could loose my stack before that.
I am not naive. A few bad days with back to back losses and you arrive where you started out faster than you can think.
Title: Re: Pattern Breaker Reloaded-Daily updates
Post by: RouletteGhost on Oct 11, 06:02 PM 2018
I’m looking forward to more updates. How many more wins before the next loss.
Title: Re: Pattern Breaker Reloaded-Daily updates
Post by: Mako on Oct 11, 06:36 PM 2018
I tried this sooooooo many ways when it was the new hotness on the forum...1-2-2, 1-2-4, 1-2-3-4, you name it, and it always came back to HE.

DrSodoku is your man for PB, he's the sole survivor still playing it and has the details down pat.  Takes a lot of patience.
Title: Re: Pattern Breaker Reloaded-Daily updates
Post by: Tekunda on Oct 12, 01:25 AM 2018
I tried this sooooooo many ways when it was the new hotness on the forum...1-2-2, 1-2-4, 1-2-3-4, you name it, and it always came back to HE.



Since English is not my nativ language, may I ask what HE means?
Title: Re: Pattern Breaker Reloaded-Daily updates
Post by: Tekunda on Oct 12, 04:33 PM 2018
Another loosing day.
4th session loss.
Expect another update tomorrow!
Title: Re: Pattern Breaker Reloaded-Daily updates
Post by: RouletteGhost on Oct 12, 07:51 PM 2018
would it be possible to post the spins of the said 4 losing sessions, you surely record, right?
Title: Re: Pattern Breaker Reloaded-Daily updates
Post by: Tekunda on Oct 13, 05:33 AM 2018
would it be possible to post the spins of the said 4 losing sessions, you surely record, right?
I will post the spins later today.
But I admit I already think of calling it quits.
I had 3 loosing days within a week.
When I started out I had a winning streak of 4 consecutive days, then came the first loss.
Then another winning day followed by a loss.
And again a winning day followed by another loss.
That tells me already that the day will come when I will receive a back to back loss, maybe followed by a winning day and boom another loss.
Perhaps a better way to play this system would be to play with big units just one session per day.
I also think it would make no difference at all to just play the penultimate pattern.
At least this would cut down tremendously on the boredom of waiting for the pattern to show.
It would be great if a member who played this system would chime in letting me know if my gut feeling is correct about the loosing day patterns which I already have experienced or if it might be possible that maybe I just started out on the wrong leg and things could get better.
Title: Re: Pattern Breaker Reloaded-Daily updates
Post by: Tekunda on Oct 13, 06:07 PM 2018
There won't be an update tonight.
I have decided to stop playing PB the way I play.
I will start out again someday next week playing all three chances.
At least this will cut down on the waiting time which just was too long for my taste.
I will give give a heads up when I start out again.
Title: Re: Pattern Breaker Reloaded-Daily updates
Post by: RouletteGhost on Oct 13, 06:11 PM 2018
Very cool

I thought you were playing all 3
Title: Re: Pattern Breaker Reloaded-Daily updates
Post by: Tekunda on Oct 13, 07:06 PM 2018
Very cool

I thought you were playing all 3

No, I just played Hi/Lo but the waiting time is really too long.
I had several of my 5 daily sessions, when just one session was dragging on for 80 coups and more.
Title: Re: Pattern Breaker Reloaded-Daily updates
Post by: RouletteGhost on Oct 13, 07:55 PM 2018
Playing all 3 usually gives a bet in 20 to 30 spins I believe.
Title: Re: Pattern Breaker Reloaded-Daily updates
Post by: thocxo2207 on Oct 14, 12:04 AM 2018
I think you should try CHT's strategy. he is amazing
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Pattern Breaker Reloaded-Daily updates
Post by: Shogun on Oct 15, 12:46 PM 2018
I think you should try CHT's strategy. he is amazing
 :thumbsup:


Hi. What is CHT's strategy ?
Or do you have a link please ?
Title: Re: Pattern Breaker Reloaded-Daily updates
Post by: Shogun on Oct 15, 01:09 PM 2018
Good luck with your testing op.
Was thinking about testing this myself.
But I can't help thinking I might as well pick a random 3 pattern and bet against it. Would my results be any different ?  Certainly less waiting :)
Back in the day I tested one of JL's methods. Think it was code 4 or pattern 4.  It seemed to do well for some people. Bust in only my second game and twice again very soon after. People played this for long streaks of winning sessions. Recently tested KTF after reading all the posts and looking at Notto's great results. Second game bust for me -800 and then two of my next 5 games bust. So I gave up.
I think some of these systems like PB can win for a long time. I'm sure some are doing very well with it. But not for me. I am not lucky.
Systems can and do work. I enjoy testing and inventing systems. I have two of my own that I'm very excited about.
Keep looking and you will find what you are looking for.
Test,test and more test. Why risk your money if you have doubts about what you are playing.
Sorry for the long post. Look forward to your results.
Title: Re: Pattern Breaker Reloaded-Daily updates
Post by: klw on Oct 16, 08:22 AM 2018
Guys there are a few ways to improve your results at PB , here are my thoughts.

Don't bet any trigger after 27 spins, how do you achieve this ?
Monitor as many even chance combinations as you can. You have the 3 traditional combinations PLUS you can use lines , streets , splits or whatever combinations you want, the more the merrier until you get a regular trigger below 30 spins. If anyone comes up with a tracker for this I would love to have a copy please. Results are better from triggers 21,24 and 27.

Don't ignore zero, results are better when no zero is tracked in the build up to a trigger. If you get a zero don't play a trigger whatever spin it comes. To get round this I play zero as a stand alone game. It's easy to progress slowly 1 number to the next game if it appears. So either way I get action.

When you get a trigger you don't necessarily need to bet against the last pattern formed ( no.7 ). Keep a record of which pattern ( 1-7 ) has gone the longest without being the winning pattern and bet against that.

This should improve results. Keep me updated as to how you guys get on.

Cheers.