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## Roulette-focused => Professional Systems & Advice => Topic started by: RP501 on Oct 08, 05:21 PM 2018

Title: Can these Statistics & Strategy PROFIT Long-Term?
Post by: RP501 on Oct 08, 05:21 PM 2018
Can these Betting Statistics & Strategy be Profitable in the Long-Term?

Win: 32.4%
Break-EVEN: 37.8%
Lose: 29.7%
Win Bet Odds: 1-2 (.50-1) 21.6% of the time.
Win Bet Odds: 3-2 (1.50-1) 10.8% of the time.
Very Mild Simple Progression: Keep adding 1 Unit during losing periods, until a new high Balance hits, then Re-set.

This includes the single Zero on European Wheel.

This is JUST a Theory -- Being the Progression allows Winning Bet amounts to be more than Losing Bets, thus eventually allowing you to recover over-all Losses (very long grinding sessions possible).  Of course, this applies ONLY if there are NO Table Limits.  And I already know any Progression is prone to hit Limits, which is why Roulette can't be beat Long-Term.  As mentioned, this is just a Theory for NO Table Limits.   ;)

Title: Re: Can these Statistics & Strategy PROFIT Long-Term?
Post by: RP501 on Oct 08, 05:43 PM 2018
Win Bet Odds: 1-2 (.50-1) 21.6% of the time.
Win Bet Odds: 3-2 (1.50-1) 10.8% of the time.

... So that would be an average of 83% Profit per Win (.83-1 Odds) 💰
Title: Re: Can these Statistics & Strategy PROFIT Long-Term?
Post by: Bigbroben on Oct 08, 07:03 PM 2018
To add one unit every spin, I think it's called Fitzroy or Pluscoup, something like that.
Explain your numbers, though: what to they represent?
Title: Re: Can these Statistics & Strategy PROFIT Long-Term?
Post by: RP501 on Oct 09, 11:52 AM 2018
To add one unit every spin, I think it's called Fitzroy or Pluscoup, something like that.
Explain your numbers, though: what to they represent?

Thanks for the names of the progression methods of adding 1 Unit per spin, until Balance hits new high.

Those numbers relates to just 2 combination bets, that's why there is 37.8% Break-EVEN.  I don't really want to give-away the actual Method, but it takes advantage of the uneven RB on the 2 Columns.  But anyone who is Roulette savvy can figure it out, based on the Odds & Percentages I've posted.  ;)
Title: Re: Can these Statistics & Strategy PROFIT Long-Term?
Post by: Bigbroben on Oct 09, 12:16 PM 2018
Ok'

How many trials did you do to get to these percentages?

How high a progression did you reach and how many spins between 2 new highs?
Title: Re: Can these Statistics & Strategy PROFIT Long-Term?
Post by: RP501 on Oct 09, 02:11 PM 2018
How many trials did you do to get to these percentages?
How high a progression did you reach and how many spins between 2 new highs?

Sorry, I wasn't exactly clear on what those numbers represented.  They are based on what the 2 Bets would generate in relation to the Roulette Table.

For example - If I were to bet 1-Unit on the 1st Column & the 1st Dozen together, the Statistics would be:

(European single Zero)
Win: 54.0%
Lose: 45.9%
Win Bet Odds: 1-2 (.50-1) 43.2% of the time.
Win Bet Odds: 2-1, 10.8% of the time.
Average Odds:  4-5 (.80-1) 80%

Although I don't think betting Fitzroy or Pluscoup would work on this particular Column-Dozen combo.

I've just begun to work my Method, and have only done around couple 1,000 spins with online RNG Roulette.  Unfortunately, I don't have the skills to test with those System Testers.  And I don't want to divulge my System by letting someone test it.  I guess I'll just need to keep playing it with RNG Roulette, even though the consensuses (belief) is that it CANNOT be beaten in the long-term.  I heard 50,000 spins should be sufficient.

So far my version of the Fitzroy progression has been able to recoup an average negative 8,000 Units (1-cent) draw-downs, within approximately 400-600 spins.  Very long grinding sessions, 1-2+ hours!