This is another not very well known but very good system for betting Red and Black.
You will either win 20 units or lose 100 units.
To lose 100 units the wheel must spin exactly 10 red and 10 blacks within 20 spins.
I wonder if anyone has a good idea for an entry point?
Whoever created this is without a doubt clever
I will try to wrap my head around it
the problem is you will get 10/10 here and there, the 100 unit loss will have to be overcome by the 20 unit wins
unfair payout=HE
..Hi,
from italian forum for your tests with dozens too
Regards
Gitano
does the italian forum have this in a NON rar file...I am not comfortable opening a rar
these..
here a variance of masaniello called ROSERPINA VARIABILE ( link:://:.mediafire.com/file/uba8bezwjq14pjk/ROSERPINA++VARIABILE.xls)
that don't need to know before the predicted winnings,.so IT is a continuos betting until u want for roulette.
I think there are mobile versions too..
You can find a playing example here with doublestreets.
link:s://:.youtube.com/watch?v=PTKCgd41-cQ
BYE
judging by that video, the outcome was OK
Thanks GITANO I had not seen these other versions before.
RouletteGhost in the first example we can stop the session early if we win a few units so we don't always have to risk the 100 unit loss.
For what it's worth, the chance of equality in 20 outcomes is 17.6%. Not surprisingly, the expectation is negative :
(1 - 0.176) * 20 - 0.176 * 100 = -1.12
But it seems like a fun system to play.
Joe for what it’s worth a small progression might help even more. 1.1 isn’t much to overcome
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Oct 13, 05:25 PM 2018
Joe for what it’s worth a small progression might help even more. 1.1 isn’t much to overcome
The progression will in the long run just make you lose more.
But it could add entertainment value.
This is a very unique and well thought out system
Whoever is behind it has a pretty cool thought process
Fun to play. Not to retire with.
When (or if) you play this I would recommend removing the right-most column and the bottom row. This eliminates the high stakes (30 and 61 units), so the highest stake is 15 units.
I'm working on a tracker for it which will include grids for all 3 even chances.
Thanks Joe, you make great software.
I also had this idea that we can just abandon the session before staking the last row which is where the big losses occur.
We can also abandon the session if we win a few units early on.
According to LOTT, what if this was built with 18 + 18, for a 36 spin cycle? Things """never""" got balanced on 36 spins right? :question:
The point is, I think the more the spins, the lower the profit %.
Hi guys, I find this betting method interesting for multiple reasons and there could be some fixes that could be done to it to make it profitable, but I am a bit confused about some of the rules. I understand that if the outcome of 20 spins is 10 reds and 10 blacks in whatever order they come, then we loose 100 units. But I am a bit confused about the rules on the pdf, can someone help me understand them better
"The betting operation is very simple. We determine which side corresponds to the top of the table (blue
area) and which side corresponds to the bottom (yellow zone). For this example we will use Manque
(blue) and Passe (yellow).
We start from the top-left corner with a waiting spin (bet value 0). The appearance of the chosen side
indicates which way to go: if it is "manque", then we move horizontally, to the right; if it is "passe" we
move vertically, downwards.
For example, "manque" came out. Now you move to the right into a blue box (manque), and bet the
number of units shown in the table (1).
What do you bet?
You always bet the amount of the current area where you are (higher or lower) regardless of the type of
even chance which came out. If passe comes out twice but we are still in the area of manque, we'll play
manque."
Thanks.
Blue = Red
Yellow = Black
First spin no bet wait for the result:
Result is 18 Red
So because the result was Red we move across the square 1 space to the right and bet the sum of that square on Red for the next spin.
So we now bet $1 on Red
Result is 27 Red.
So because the result was Red we move across the square again 1 space to the right and bet the sum of that square on Red again for the next spin.
So we now bet $2 on Red
Result is 6 Black
So we go down the Square this time and our next bet is $1 on Red again.
Result is 24 Black
So because black won we go down again 1 square and bet the sum which this time is 0
So we sit the spin out and wait for the result.
The result is 28 Black so because won we go down the square and bet the sum for the next spin which is $2 on Black.
We keep doing this until we fall off the square either going across or downwards.
Once we fall off the Square we will have either won 20 units or lost 100 units.
Quote from: ahlidap on Oct 15, 08:55 AM 2018
According to LOTT, what if this was built with 18 + 18, for a 36 spin cycle? Things """never""" got balanced on 36 spins right? :question:
The point is, I think the more the spins, the lower the profit %.
It's a good idea.
If some maths guru can work out the formula to calculate the bets then it could be reverse engineered for any type of betting location/payout.
The 20 spins could be extended to 40 spins in the original method. There are endless possibilities.
Regarding perfect balance in 36 spins I onced tried waiting for 18 hits and 18 non hits and then flat betted the 18 non hits but it didn't really work out.
It would be good to see this idea if someone can work out the staking.
So the result would be you always win X unless 18 unique numbers (no repeats) come out in exactly 36 spins in which case you would lose Y.
Let Me Win,
Thank you for replying, thats how I was doing it, but what if the result continues being RED and we continue moving to the right until the end of the chart? Basically after 10 reds in a row we will reach the end of the chart, will this also be considered a loosing session? I thought a loosing session would only happen after 20 spins and if the outcome was 10 reds combined with 10 black.
Why is there another Zero at the right end of the chart horizontally? Thats what is making me confused about some specific scenarios.
Quote from: romano0327 on Oct 15, 11:25 AM 2018
Basically after 10 reds in a row we will reach the end of the chart, will this also be considered a loosing session?
No, in that case, you've won 20 units! (in fact it is 21 or 22 if using the pdf table).
Quote from: romano0327 on Oct 15, 11:50 AM 2018
Why is there another Zero at the right end of the chart horizontally? Thats what is making me confused about some specific scenarios.
Any time you encounter a 0 on the square it means no bet that spin and you sit it out and wait for the wheel to decide which way you will go next.
Thank you guys, I think everything is clear now.
Guys, for some reason I cannot download the pdf on the 1st page, I just get a blank screen...
Now, what if we wait for, say, 5 reds and 5 blacks in any order before we commence?
Would that not lower the odds of the next 20 being 10 red 10 black?
Because we would have by then seen 15 and 15 in 30 spins.
Or are we back to the age old problem of past spins being irrelevant?
Quote from: daveylibra on Oct 15, 04:57 PM 2018Or are we back to the age old problem of past spins being irrelevant?
I'm afraid so.
Quote from: Joe on Oct 13, 07:18 AM 2018
For what it's worth, the chance of equality in 20 outcomes is 17.6%. Not surprisingly, the expectation is negative :
(1 - 0.176) * 20 - 0.176 * 100 = -1.12
But it seems like a fun system to play.
I haven't looked over the system yet, just basing this on the original post. But if the probability of equality is 17.6% to lose 100 units, wouldn't that mean that the probability to win 20 units be 82.4%?
If the correct answer is 17.6% then I took it to mean something like this:
We play 100 games
17 games we lose 100 units (1700)
83 games we win 20 units (1660 units)
So every 100 games we play we will lose 40 units
Once upon a time there was a horrible evil man from Greece who set up his own roulette forum and invented his own roulette bet that he named after himself.
On his forum this bet was discussed by a superhero who was called Reyth who did tons of work for the evil Greek who couldn't even be bothered to exchange details with him over a four year period.
Our superhero Reyth left the Internet and nobody knows where he is today but before he left us he did some great posts about this method so I will reproduce any here that I think that can be useful.
Here is the first one....
In reality the session should end when one of three events occurs:
a) Exit the matrix from the right side
b) Exit the matrix from the bottom
c) Land on the lowest right space in the matrix (loss of 100 units)
I want to stress a few things:
1) I have run tests myself and show a win rate of 84%. With a 1:5 profit/loss ratio, that is a hole big enough to drive a mack truck through. The system as presented in the OP is presented with that understanding, not as a ready made HG.
2) I think the test results MIGHT improve if the matrix is started over at the beginning with any par/+ balance.
3) In the tests I ran, if the length of the matrix is DOUBLED, it only loses 6 times in a row as a once-in-a-lifetime event (as opposed to 9 times with the original system).
4) The genius with this progression system is not the method as presented but the IMPROVEMENT over the Martingale; this progression risks LESS to gain MORE. When we risk less, this frees up capital that can be used to lengthen the progression. A longer progression means a smaller chance of losing; i.e. a stronger system. When we gain more, its also an opportunity to bet less which allows for the progression to become even longer.
5) With the PROPER configuration using the calculations of this formula I am confident that I can create a winning system.
The superhero Reyth had this to say in 2016:
Well the progression is not separate from the betting system, I get the feeling that the bet amount is ALWAYS calculated with the number of bets remaining and their structure in mind. It is very clear that the system will win by doing the following:
A) Initially finding a streak and betting very heavily and successively into it, using the profits to create a favorable betting millieu which increases the odds of success
OR
B) Successively retreating bet after bet until a streak is found and performing A
OR
C) Simply cornering the wheel with a single bet after having failed 9 times in a row with A & B
Basically, A & B is a combined system that takes 9 successive shots at finding a streak. I heard someone say that the chances of bets lining up in bunches is greater than choppy bets but I have no idea how that even makes any sense, so instead, I think the key here is NINE SUCCESSIVE ATTEMPTS which means the odds must line up with 9 failures in a row which is where the 83.89% comes in.
Looking at 18 stations and checking the percentage of hitting within the 9th bet is 99.75%. C appears to be a last ditch effort to save everything in a single shot which is obviously used as a backup when things have gone wrong.
That's the only explanation I have.
The superhero Reyth again this time from February this year.
This progression is designed for EC's. This diagram shows how to easily use Black and Red. We start at the white "0" that is in the upper left. When a Red hits we move downward one space, when a Black hits we move right one space. The color shows our bet selection, and the numbers are how much we bet.
This is guaranteed to win 20 units or bust out at 100; compare that to a Martingale where you will win 1 unit or bust out at -1023. The chances of achieving this +20 unit win is 83.89%.
With the above instructions, this is a stand-alone system but we have the freedom to operate as we wish. For instance, I just had a game where I rec'd 4 black hits in a row, using the progression 2,3,4,5. The next bet calls for 4 units but instead of continuing, I just halted all betting and started over with a profit of +5 units.
Furthermore, the LOGIC behind this progression is truly deep and amazing. If we can understand it, we can use it for any bet selection. I guess this can be called a dynamic-progressive progression; i.e. a mixture of up as you lose AND down as you lose AND up as you win AND down as you win.
The 2 men that created this system were mathematicians and considered this progression to be optimized, as stated. For some reason they felt that taking existing profit and risking it over a series of 10 mandatory bets to always achieve a +20 unit win, was optimal -- even if it resulted in a loss of 100 units in the attempt.
Commonly, we will encounter bets where we have have existing profits that are less than 20 units and the system pushes us onwards to risk that profit because we must achieve a 10 bet total to achieve a completed game, that being the only way to obtain the +20 units. If this risk is early in the betting, I feel inclined to take the risk but as we come nearer to the 10th bet, I am not inclined to risk any profit at all. Also, when the bet amount remains the same or lower (while in profit) I feel like I should quit. I wonder if this will achieve better results than just pushing onward all the time...
Here is what I am trying right now. When we first start, our bankroll is the "zero point". Anytime we achieve our "zero point" OR any profit, we raise the "zero point" to the new profit (or keep it the same) and start over in the chart. We can keep surfing this way as long as we want or just quit at +20 units. THE RISK: If we achieve our "zero point" in the second column or row, instead of starting over on the chart, we can "go for it" and attempt to win dynamic profit.
What I have discovered is that there is no need to "suicide it"/all-or-nothing to gain the +20 units. We can modify our risk by taking profit in multiple chunks. :)
Does anyone speak fluent Italian? The reason is because all of the secrets of this method are written in that language. This system is not a fixed progression as shown here but is really a series of dynamic ratios that then create the progression: number of bets, win goal, stop loss. I would like to know what these ratios are so I can calculate them. Can anyone at least point me to the site in Italian where these are revealed?
It may be possible to create a dynamic application of these ratios to always achieve a desired win amount in [X] # of bets, where the ratios are re-calculated as our session progresses and we always keep the 84% chance of success.
Combine the above with the ability to use other bet selections besides the EC's and we could easily have an HG
Quote from: Scarface on Oct 16, 07:57 AM 2018I haven't looked over the system yet, just basing this on the original post. But if the probability of equality is 17.6% to lose 100 units, wouldn't that mean that the probability to win 20 units be 82.4%?
That's right Scarface : (1 - 0.176) = 0.824 = 82.4%
Still tweaking the tracker, but getting there. It might be a nice feature to be able to click on any cell in a grid and have the betting start again from that cell.
(link:s://i.postimg.cc/JncYZDF5/grid1.png)
:thumbsup: :wink: :wink:
Looks beautiful Joe.
If any of you ever go on the statfox sports forum, I proposed a similar progression system for sports betting 15 years ago. It works amazingly for sports with daily games.
Hello, Nimo I am into sports betting, would you share your method and what kind of picks/odds you talking about.
Cheers
Quote from: Joe on Oct 16, 09:53 AM 2018It might be a nice feature to be able to click on any cell in a grid and have the betting start again from that cell.
On second thoughts I won't do this because it will just end up as a guessing game and not a system.
QuoteJoe that program you're doing on those tables are very old, it's from an Italian and he's a friend of mine for many years ...
Ok... So what's your point? If you have the software why not upload it here and save me the trouble of uploading my version?
Joe!
You said well!it's a guessing game.. where you go out in the line downside and you restart..not a system at all, quite a strategy yes..
Maybe you want to try to understand my system? It's funny and has 87% rate of win, but I'm still thinking a progession of 3 terms..( 1,1,1 :twisted: :twisted:)
Ok guys, you can download the tracker from my site :
link:://:.roulettecoder.com/trackers.html
(link:s://i.postimg.cc/Kvb5vwMM/masianello.png)
It can work surprisingly well betting on all 3 even chances at the same time, even when you get a losing grid on one even chance the others will usually make up for it within a couple more cycles. Have fun!
Thanks looks awesome.
HI NIMO
THANKS VERY MUCH FOR YOUR POST
BECAUSE I AM VERY INTEREST IN LEARNING YOUR SPORT BETTING METHOD FOR EUROPEAN FOOTBALL
I WONDER IF COULD BE POSSIBLE SEND ME YOUR METHOD TO MY PRIVATE EMAIL
I CANT FIND IT AT THE WEBSITE EVEN I HAVE DONE MANY TRIALS
THANKS A LOT
MICHAEL
JOE I took a look at your site and is awesome, thanks for contributing.
I have a probability question that might increase the probability of winning, i send you a PM about it.
Cheers
Joe wins member of the decade award
And all 3 EC at same time? Brilliant.
A clever method collaborated with an awesome programmer
That's the kind of thinking behind the design that makes systems bet win
How good the system boils down to how much exposure to risk of ruin, risk adjusted returns and practical aspect
Caleb and steve is very poor in simple math
Hi,
thanks for making a software for this.
Just a little suggestion: I know units are units, but if we can assign a coin value to the units, it would be great.
Example: coin value 0.10
Last level of bet, instead reading 61 units, software will display 6.1
Regarsd
Joe is a stud, very nice... :love:
Interesting topic.
I am going to code this system to analyze it with real data.
The tracker looks great Joe. (Maybe the reset button should reset the bankroll to the given input value)
Regards
Joe,
Would you consider making your tracker so it can do wheel halves?
I'd like to bet either wheel half 32 - 10 or 5 - 26
I'd like to play so that the croupier has to land the ball 10 times in each half of the wheel for me to lose.
Thanks Joe
I downloaded the tracker from your website this morning. Look forward to using it this weekend.
Quote from: Let Me Win on Oct 18, 07:06 PM 2018
Joe,
Would you consider making your tracker so it can do wheel halves?
I'd like to bet either wheel half 32 - 10 or 5 - 26
I'd like to play so that the croupier has to land the ball 10 times in each half of the wheel for me to lose.
Why those halfs?
Why exclude 0, and not 14, or 7?
If it can work, it needs to be adjusted.
And betting one half with 18 numberd and the other with 19 will not kill you.
What will kill you is risking 1800 units.
Quote from: ahlidap on Oct 19, 03:00 AM 2018
Why those halfs?
Why exclude 0, and not 14, or 7?
If it can work, it needs to be adjusted.
And betting one half with 18 numberd and the other with 19 will not kill you.
What will kill you is risking 1800 units.
Agree... one of the steps requires you to bet 61. 61*18 seems unreasonable value to me....
Have anyone faced this against Baccarat?
How frequent is to have 10 bankers and 10 players in 20 results (excluding ties) ?
With the advantage on green tie, that returns our stake.
Baccarat experts? ANDRE CHASS? CHT?
By the way, Joe's software, I think when zero hits it should count as a loss and move towards the opposite EC.
If we are on a waiting state (middle 0 cells), just keep waiting.
I also think the 5x5 option for this method should be tweaked and tested not only the 10x10
Quote from: RouletteProgrammer on Oct 17, 03:13 PM 2018The tracker looks great Joe. (Maybe the reset button should reset the bankroll to the given input value)
I didn't notice that, thanks and this is fixed now.
QuoteJust a little suggestion: I know units are units, but if we can assign a coin value to the units, it would be great.
At first I wasn't keen on doing this because it would have meant increasing the size of the cells in the grids to accommodate the longer numbers and decimal points, which I didn't want to do. However I agree it would be nice to be able to bet small denominations, so I've added some labels which tell you what the stake is. The program just multiplies the number in the grid by the denomination to give the actual stake. I also added a la partage checkbox.
I've uploaded the new version, but haven't tested it much so please let me know if there are any bugs.
link:://:.roulettecoder.com/trackers.html
(link:s://i.postimg.cc/VkSr6Pnf/masianello.png)
Quote from: ahlidap on Oct 19, 04:22 AM 2018Have anyone faced this against Baccarat?
How frequent is to have 10 bankers and 10 players in 20 results (excluding ties) ?
Someone already asked me if I could do a version for baccarat. Banker has a slightly higher chance of winning so I guess the chance of equality isn't as high as roulette, but then you have the commission so there isn't really any advantage.
I was thinking maybe you could connect this way of betting to the VDW concept since that's also an EC system. Also you could easily add more grids for any bet selection. Say Avant Dernier; bet last but one and move right when winning and if a lost bet opposite of last but one and move down. The chance of equality (wins = losses) would still be the same as when betting red/black.
You can use the tracker as it is now for Baccarat.
Just change Red to mean player and Black to mean banker.
Quote from: Let Me Win on Oct 19, 05:23 AM 2018You can use the tracker as it is now for Baccarat.
Ya that's what I thought.
Quote from: Let Me Win on Oct 19, 05:23 AM 2018
You can use the tracker as it is now for Baccarat.
Just change Red to mean player and Black to mean banker.
Obviously..
I did not requested a tracker.. I asked "the experts" and anyone, how likely is to get 10 vs 10 in baccarat, as baccarat isn't my game and real things are different than in the theory.
;)
You can also use the tracker to play your half wheels!
Put zero on the right side..
Use "red" on tracker as your top side of wheel (5 to 26), and black as your down side (32 to 10).
So, kinda strange your advice...
Quote from: ahlidap on Oct 19, 04:22 AM 2018
Have anyone faced this against Baccarat?
How frequent is to have 10 bankers and 10 players in 20 results (excluding ties) ?
With the advantage on green tie, that returns our stake.
Baccarat experts? ANDRE CHASS? CHT?
By the way, Joe's software, I think when zero hits it should count as a loss and move towards the opposite EC.
If we are on a waiting state (middle 0 cells), just keep waiting.
I also think the 5x5 option for this method should be tweaked and tested not only the 10x10
Don’t ever say andre and baccarat expert in the same phrase again
Quote from: Joe on Oct 19, 05:15 AM 2018
Someone already asked me if I could do a version for baccarat. Banker has a slightly higher chance of winning so I guess the chance of equality isn't as high as roulette, but then you have the commission so there isn't really any advantage.
I was thinking maybe you could connect this way of betting to the VDW concept since that's also an EC system. Also you could easily add more grids for any bet selection. Say Avant Dernier; bet last but one and move right when winning and if a lost bet opposite of last but one and move down. The chance of equality (wins = losses) would still be the same as when betting red/black.
I did ask. There are no commissions if you play on edgeless.io . They just added Baccarat with 0 house edge - no commissions or any fees. Works well for me. Bankroll was 100 and currently I am at 502. Betting unit is 1 Edge. Managed to avoid to 2 big losses coz I decided to take a smaller loss. So far so good.
So what are the odds of two losing sessions in a row? I'm sure it happens but not very often. If this is the case why not start your session at minimum ($1 for example)..when you do have a losing session you start the very next session at $6. This would recoup your $100 loss from the previous session + $20 right? Would love to hear others opinions on this and thanks!
Quote from: Ravenous Treasure on Nov 17, 09:13 PM 2019So what are the odds of two losing sessions in a row?
Chance of win is 82.4% so chance of loss is 17.6%. Therefore chance of 2 losses in a row is 0.176 * 0.176 = 0.031 or around 3.1%.
I am testing and using masaniello a lot.
Knowing that roulette outcomes are random and unpredictable and all systems, which use past datas, are useless - for me masaniello is the best betting system.
Dear all, can anyone of you reupload the roulettecoder tracker for this nmisaniello system? It seems the download page is dead. Thanks
Quote from: charly on Feb 29, 06:16 PM 2020
I am testing and using masaniello a lot.
Knowing that roulette outcomes are random and unpredictable and all systems, which use past datas, are useless - for me masaniello is the best betting system.
Why are you making constant profits with this method?
really good luck Charly
I Had big losses with massianelo system
Quote from: poluvolo on Feb 29, 11:05 PM 2020
really good luck Charly
I Had big losses with massianelo system
restart it as soon as possible...every time going to the end of matrix is bad idea
I like the Masaniello method too because it is really interesting, simple, easy to play and got a high winning rate at 80+%.
These are the rules that I set and to follow when betting:
- Take the last spun colour to decide my bet on which side.
- I bet nothing when the method asked to bet nothing, follow the method and be patient.
- At any profit / new high, reset back the progression, I think this is very IMPORTANT to stay in the green zone for longer time.
- I cut off the last line and the most right column in the original method to avoid risking more units at last (Not sure if it's a good or bad move to cut off?)
- Create recovery levels if your budget can afford, example: 3 levels
1st level: Start with 1 unit and follow the method
If loss go to 2nd level,
2nd level (Recovery): Start with 2 units and follow the method until you're back to level 1
if loss go to 3rd level,
3nd level (Recovery): Start with 4 units and follow the method until you're back to level 1
If loss go back home, you're super duper lucky shit that time and not advised to bet anymore, go back to work, gain back all the losses then you can try again, luck is difficult to predict sometimes.
Yes, it sounds like a martingale system on a modified martingale method, but it is more safer I believe and fun to play! :D Enjoy
This is the direct link to the method or you can download it from the attachment :
link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=20863.0
Glad if someone can put this into test or give more insights on this, enjoy everyone! :)
Hello all, I am new to this site and have been trying to download Joe's Masaniello software but his link is not working.
Can anyone please help?
Thank you.
link:://:.mediafire.com/folder/ph8i3xs042sz2/masianello
main software is here from my mediafire account..plus a few other bits based on it...enjoy
Ross,s amazing ec predictions is equally as good ...not much discussed on the thread but worth your time to take a look and a nice piece of software ..
link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=25027.msg221816#msg221816
instructions included in download
download from here if old link is not working...
link:://:.mediafire.com/folder/g4f9m8w5oszfa/ross_ec_bet_and_tracker
oorichis tracker is in this folder too
You mean its a winning method?
Hi Joe,
Your Masianello tracker is brilliant & you are incredibly generous to share your work. I wanted to ask if you would be open to making a modification. Specifically, remove all zeros except for a single zero that represents a "starting" or "resetting" point (in the upper left quadrant of the matrix). Certainly, removal of said zeros (except for the single) would alter the computations a bit. If there is a more preferable way to discuss further, apart from this thread, then kindly let me know. Thank you again for your meaningful contributions.
Salvi
6th Sense.. thank you very much for the links. I'm very grateful!!
Quote from: 6th-sense on Jul 08, 03:13 AM 2020
link:://:.mediafire.com/folder/ph8i3xs042sz2/masianello
main software is here from my mediafire account..plus a few other bits based on it...enjoy
Excuse my ignorance but how do I get the links to work ?
Cheers.
Quote from: klw on Jul 04, 05:58 PM 2022
Excuse my ignorance but how do I get the links to work ?
Cheers.
extract and click on application..enter bankroll..choose which ec,s you want to play..
Quote from: 6th-sense on Jul 05, 01:39 AM 2022
extract and click on application..enter bankroll..choose which ec,s you want to play..
Cheers Gordon. I'm still in the dark as to how to get the links to work. :-[
I liked this method, I'm going to do some simulations!
Quote from: Joe on Nov 18, 02:40 PM 2019Chance of win is 82.4% so chance of loss is 17.6%. Therefore chance of 2 losses in a row is 0.176 * 0.176 = 0.031 or around 3.1%.
Hi, I know I'm late to this thread, but it caught my eye because I had already done the Masaniello method a dozen times in practice.
I haven't done thousands of trials with this, and I haven't used real money yet, but something about the math disturbs me, and maybe I'm misreading it:
Out of 1000 sessions, 824 will win, and 176 will lose.
824(20) = 16,480 units
176(100) = 17,600 units
Therefore, although we're winning a lot more sessions, we are losing more units than we are winning, due to the high 100 unit loss for each session loss.
Am I missing something? I'm a pretty simple man.