Please do not be offended, I am just curious as to what the thought process is of a systems player.
Since it is statistically impossible to beat roulette with any bet selection over a large amount of spins, why have some systems players been attempting to do so for years?
If people are adamant that there is a system out there that can beat roulette, why has it not become available to more players?
Is this whole ‘search for the holy grail using systems’ idea just a bit of fun, like a hobby?
Why do so many systems have such bad winrates?
Why do supposedly successful systems have such low profit and take hour upon hours to play?
All the supposedly successful systems I have seen can not deal with nightmare senorios. So how can they be successful systems?
How can random beat random. And math beat random? That just sounds insane.
Knowing roulette has been around for a very long time. Why do you think nobody has found a way to consistently beat it?
I ask these questions because I have going over the history of this forum and other roulette forums and it seems systems players have been posting the same topic threads for decades with absolutely no genuine success. So it makes me think either I have missed something or as Einstein said it, the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
Or is it that we are getting closer to the holy grail every year by posting the same methods but with slight variations.
Again please don’t get offended I am just confused about the principle of using a system to beat roulette and what would make some believe this is possible.
Main problem, with an "ordinary bet" you cannot get far?, or get a high "winrate" only way to achive that imo is some kind of "clustered bet",..as i've explained?, ..nothing wrong with the betselections only use them with a clustered bet+ a milder progression, +1u after a ended cycle etc..(Steve/atlantis-like) i believe is the way to go, furthermore, i think now, best betselection IS a bet of 8-9 numbers...(for me)
Quote from: precogmiles on Oct 14, 05:03 PM 2018
Please do not be offended, I am just curious as to what the thought process is of a systems player.
Since it is statistically impossible to beat roulette with any bet selection over a large amount of spins, why have some systems players been attempting to do so for years?
For me it's just about finding a method of play that in short bursts (under 300 spins) can 'dance between the raindrops' and break-even for comps, or win slightly more than it loses.
I feel currently after testing for thousands of spielbank duisburg downloaded spins that I have 2-3 different methods of play that achieve that goal more often than not. One of them is a flatbet also, so the risk is minimal.
Quote from: precogmiles on Oct 14, 05:03 PM 2018
If people are adamant that there is a system out there that can beat roulette, why has it not become available to more players?
Most players are not competent or disciplined when it comes to large scale testing. Most don't even own RX, and some refuse to do any simulation outside of actual B&M play (which is too slow, too small sample to mean anything).
Easy to lose once, twice, give up, and without the right tools/process, it's nearly blind guessing for the majority.
Quote from: precogmiles on Oct 14, 05:03 PM 2018
Is this whole ‘search for the holy grail using systems’ idea just a bit of fun, like a hobby?
Correct, any sort of HG would just be a bonus. Some refuse to believe it, but I've verified multiple forum members (2) who play daily, with greens and blacks, and possess what they feel is a grail. They both haven't lost in over a year, and their winnings are mid-six-figures the past year. And no, TurboGenius (nor PassionRoulette) are in that group.
Even if that sounds unbelievable, the pursuit of an HG is again just a fun hobby. The real goal is consistent play that breaks-even or provides slightly more winning sessions than losing.
Quote from: precogmiles on Oct 14, 05:03 PM 2018
Why do so many systems have such bad winrates?
90% of "new" systems posted to the board are retreads, or slightly modified retreads, that failed years ago due to a host of reasons (fallacy, lack of testing, poor MM, poor BS, martingale progressions, etc, etc, etc,).
Quote from: precogmiles on Oct 14, 05:03 PM 2018
Why do supposedly successful systems have such low profit and take hour upon hours to play?
The longer-play systems are just crutches usually, to make the player believe that the system is a legitimate winner.
Slow = longer to bust in terms of time, which leads people to think it may be closer to a winner than a fast-win/fast-lose system.
Quote from: precogmiles on Oct 14, 05:03 PM 2018
All the supposedly successful systems I have seen can not deal with nightmare senorios. So how can they be successful systems?
In that case the player would need to believe (via testing thousands of spins) that the "nightmare" scenario occurs infrequently enough that profit can be accrued over time despite it.
Usually nightmare scenarios are ascribed to martingales, which obviously are legitimate. Other nightmare scenarios might occur say once in every ten sessions, while the other nine sessions returned a profit. The question is, does your system provide enough profit in the nine wins to offset the single nightmare loss? And that's what system players try to achieve.
Quote from: precogmiles on Oct 14, 05:03 PM 2018
How can random beat random. And math beat random? That just sounds insane.
Turbo's quote, which makes him feel safe that he's beaten the game. It's a self-affirmation, a sub-conscious attempt to pump himself up and create a "fact" out of the way his system plays. It's attempting to ascribe legitimacy to something that may or may not be legitimate, and I can understand why he does it because if you've played Turbo's system you realize REAL fast that you need a deep BR, and have to be willing to lose that entire BR, to get a chance at the 200-400% profit.
Quote from: precogmiles on Oct 14, 05:03 PM 2018
Knowing roulette has been around for a very long time. Why do you think nobody has found a way to consistently beat it?
Without computers to assist, it would have been very difficult before say 1975 for even a roulette fan to try and simulate/test any strategy they developed. Past that point, and especially with the advent of the internet (which allows combining of individual theories, tests, etc, into a large group of sharp people like our forum), it should have accelerated....and I believe it has.
Quote from: precogmiles on Oct 14, 05:03 PM 2018
I ask these questions because I have going over the history of this forum and other roulette forums and it seems systems players have been posting the same topic threads for decades with absolutely no genuine success. So it makes me think either I have missed something or as Einstein said it, the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
I've thought the same thing, you look at VLS posts, check their dates, people here have been chasing the magic dragon for over a decade and the same names haven't had longterm success.
It's a case of falling into one of many traps. From shiny object syndrome (someone is winning but abandons the system to chase ANOTHER new system), to poor testing (already described) to poor MM (they BK and can't play the game any longer, give up), to any of the other possible suspects.
All good questions Miles, and I support the work you're doing on precog, it's no less "real" than anything else we're chasing here. The CIA's remote viewing programs, which ALL parties involved agree were anywhere from "ok" to "worked great" are proof enough to me that there are a lot of things we still don't understand about perception.
Hey, that's somewhat similar now that I think about it...why haven't we "beaten" precog yet? Just as system players haven't "beaten" roulette, the answer to both may be much closer than its ever been.... :thumbsup:
QuoteKnowing roulette has been around for a very long time. Why do you think nobody has found a way to consistently beat it?
QuoteWithout computers to assist, it would have been very difficult before say 1975 for even a roulette fan to try and simulate/test any strategy they developed. Past that point, and especially with the advent of the internet (which allows combining of individual theories, tests, etc, into a large group of sharp people like our forum), it should have accelerated....and I believe it has.
People have been beating the hell out of the wheel long before the computers arrived on the scene. There are countless cases documented of VB players and wheel bias players destroying tables.
Read on the history and you'll find it.
Quote from: The General on Oct 14, 06:45 PM 2018
People have been beating the hell out of the wheel long before the computers arrived on the scene. There are countless cases documented of VB players and wheel bias players destroying tables.
Read on the history and you'll find it.
For sure. I wasn't addressing any VB or bias methods in my post, just general systems as Miles meant.
AP has beaten the wheel repeatedly, that's not even in question in my mind.
Now whether you guys are able to beat it currently like the "good old days" 25+ years ago...about that I have doubts. I suspect it's taking you more and more work, more and more minions, for lower hauls versus the glory years, but I still don't question that it's effective.
Quote from: precogmiles on Oct 14, 05:03 PM 2018
Please do not be offended, I am just curious as to what the thought process is of a systems player.
No offence taken
Since it is statistically impossible to beat roulette with any bet selection over a large amount of spins, why have some systems players been attempting to do so for years?
If you accept statistically impossible at any stage you are already defeated.
Nothing wrong with that, pretty normal.
If people are adamant that there is a system out there that can beat roulette, why has it not become available to more players?
Anybody with the right mind will never share this statistically impossible solution, right ?
Is this whole ‘search for the holy grail using systems’ idea just a bit of fun, like a hobby?
An intellectual challenge.
Why do so many systems have such bad winrates?
Zero basis in the design.
Why do supposedly successful systems have such low profit and take hour upon hours to play?
To find a net positive edge in a statistically impossible environment is a huge achievement.
Top that with a high rate of return is insane.
Too high the edge, I don't believe it myself, example steve's claims of easy to beat the wheel, 150% edge is rubbish to me.
Real net positive edge has small numbers that overcome the house edge - 2.7% into net positive territory.
Sensational numbers is what it s sensational.
All the supposedly successful systems I have seen can not deal with nightmare senorios. So how can they be successful systems?
By Nightmare scenarios, you mean outlier variance.
Easy to deal with, really.
Define a low cost stop.
How can random beat random. And math beat random? That just sounds insane.
Ofc it sounds insane.
What is more insane is if it's not random there's no way to beat this game.
Knowing roulette has been around for a very long time. Why do you think nobody has found a way to consistently beat it?
Assumption of nobody.
I ask these questions because I have going over the history of this forum and other roulette forums and it seems systems players have been posting the same topic threads for decades with absolutely no genuine success. So it makes me think either I have missed something or as Einstein said it, the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
It's perfectly normal to think the way you do, it's the logical process.
Or is it that we are getting closer to the holy grail every year by posting the same methods but with slight variations.
Design MUST have math as the basis.
Again please don’t get offended I am just confused about the principle of using a system to beat roulette and what would make some believe this is possible.
Agan no offence taken.
Question are legitimate.
Count the cost.My advice is not to waste your time, money and life to attempt this silly thing.
Get a job. That's real.
More important, don't part money to any seller of books, video or systems, or AP or roulette computers or whatever.
You have been warned.
I like to look at what the dealer does more than the wheel.
(re: Dealer signature)
Dealers subconsciously have a predisposed area of
the wheel many of the balls rest. It's a matter of finding it imo.
Quote from: Mako on Oct 14, 05:39 PM 2018There are countless cases documented of VB players and wheel bias players destroying tables.
Read on the history and you'll find it.
Great reply, very honest. thanks
Quote from: luckyfella on Oct 14, 07:43 PM 2018More important, don't part money to any seller of books, video or systems, or AP or roulette computers or whatever.
You have been warned.
Why not?
Are you saying nothing can ever be learned from books?
Casino consultants buy books and videos about AP. Many buy computers or make their own. Why do you think that is?
My computers get clear edge between 20-150% on almost every wheel.
Not worth it?
Luckyfella, your post above is full of holes and contradictions which I dont have time to address. It's better for you to understand something before criticizing it.
Some people would say "nobody would ever sell a system that worked".
Others would say "if there was a system that worked, it would be very expensive"
Others would say "$80,000 is too expensive" (cost of my hybrid roulette computer)
Few understand why I sell technology. They think it must mean they dont work. It's not complicated. I don't mind who purchases my less effective methods or technology. Prices range between $1000 - $4000 for those. But my best technology is $80,000 AND I sell it on conditions like they only play in specific jurisdictions to prevent widespread use. ie there may only be one hybrid team in an area at a time.
The players benefit with an effective computer. I benefit because I get paid $80,000 from licensing my technology, which is very difficult, expensive and time consuming to develop. Sure they could try developing one like it themselves. But it would take them years and a lot more than $80k. The people who buy it must see it before buying - its mandatory. And people with money aren't idiots. They do proper research and carefully verify my claims.
I also have the computer service explained at :.roulettephysics.com/computer-service/ where basically players get the hybrid free, and pay only after winning. But this is done only with high stakes players. There's not much point to me being awake at 3am for $5 units.
Perhaps you are comparing my technology to Blue Angel's ebooks on Amazon, which aren't worth the bandwidth it costs to download them.
selling something that worked on roulette just doesnt make sense....more touble than it is worth
said person could just go win, win and win
the book sellers really get me to laugh...system so good they write a book ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Oct 15, 08:57 PM 2018selling something that worked on roulette just doesnt make sense
Doesn't make sense to you, because you aren't in my position, and dont understand the issues and options.
There are thousands of casinos in the world. Do you really think it's possible for my private teams to play in all of them? No, of course not. It's difficult to coordinate too many teams. So that leaves two main options to maximize my revenue:
1. Get others to play for me, and pay part of their winnings (which is what this is: link:://:.roulettephysics.com/computer-service/ )
2. License my technology, which is what you call "selling". People pay a worthwhile fee to use my technology. The lower cost technology can be used anywhere, but there are restrictions on where the more powerful technology is used.
In a dream world, I would give everyone a free roulette computer and they'd pay me part of their profits. I tried something similar once. I sent many free computers to reasonably qualified players, and I found when people get something for free, they are lazier and dont dedicate the time. That meant many people who got a free computer didnt make use of it, and didn't even bother sending back the equipment worth around $2000. So now the only way to get my computers free is the program at link:://:.roulettephysics.com/computer-service/ which eliminates the risk of time-wasters, but gives serious teams a "pay as you win" option without needing to pay me anything up-front.
As for AP books and videos, there are many that work. People sell them because they do offer value, but they are not a magic wand to make money. They are techniques that work, but lazy people wont succeed. It takes more time and effort than most people want to dedicate. It's a bit like buying a business.... it makes money, but is it going to run itself?
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Oct 15, 08:57 PM 2018the book sellers really get me to laugh...system so good they write a book
You cant expect much value from a $4.95 ebook claiming to offer the holy grail. That's not what I do.
Steve, you SELL roulette computers
I don't sell anything
If you raise SPECIFIC technical matter that make sense I will address
I won't respond to useless wall of text
I stand by what I wrote, no reference to your activities
Ofc I won't stand in your way
I couldn't care less
RG, you also need to understand the difference between selling something like a book, and licensing technology.
A book and the knowledge is yours to keep. You can get value from books and videos. That's what they're for. Sure some are full of shit. And some actually have valuable techniques and lessons. If you understood AP better you'd know this.
Licensing technology is what I do with my hybrid roulette computer. I have full control over it and can restrict anyone's access if they breach the terms of service.
Quote from: luckyfella on Oct 15, 09:21 PM 2018Steve, you SELL roulette computers
I sell some things as I explained, but mostly I license. The difference is with licensing, the merchant retains ownership and control.
Quote from: luckyfella on Oct 15, 09:21 PM 2018If you raise SPECIFIC technical matter that make sense I will address
That's fine but I dont have the time.
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Oct 15, 08:57 PM 2018
selling something that worked on roulette just doesnt make sense....more touble than it is worth
said person could just go win, win and win
the book sellers really get me to laugh...system so good they write a book ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
You will be surprise how desperate people in dire straits are
Hate their jobs, quick fix for their mounting debts, get rich quick
Those are the victims, the target audience
Question for Caleb and Steve
According to precog, it's statistically impossible to beat roulette over a large number of spins
Both of you have clearly stated that it's impossible for systems players to win itlr
So, IF a systems player who does not even look at the wheel at all, does not care what happens to the dealer and wheel
Wins millions playing his stupid voodooish system at table max, you as pitboss shall allow him to keep playing to his hearts content ?
That stupid systems fool will eventually lose back everything plus millions of his own, isn't that true ?
Note : IF
Quote from: luckyfella on Oct 15, 09:34 PM 2018You will be surprise how desperate people in dire straits are
Obviously desperate people contact me all the time, and people with gambling problems. I don't work with them. Also don't work with players with very poor English. I often warn people if they are in desperate need of money, they shouldnt even be looking at casinos. They'll probably rush, make mistakes and lose.
Quote from: luckyfella on Oct 15, 10:27 PM 2018According to precog, it's statistically impossible to beat roulette over a large number of spins
The statement is not worded well. I assume you mean it's difficult to test over a large number of spins.
Quote from: luckyfella on Oct 15, 10:27 PM 2018Both of you have clearly stated that it's impossible for systems players to win itlr
I havent said that. I'm only saying that, without extreme luck, they're not likely to win in the long-term with an approach that doesnt change the accuracy of predictions to be high enough to overcome unfair payouts. Like repeaters for example...
Quote from: luckyfella on Oct 15, 10:27 PM 2018So, IF a systems player who does not even look at the wheel at all, does not care what happens to the dealer and wheel
Then they're neglecting the most important variables that determine spin outcomes. Still it is possible to win with a method that works. It just not wise to ignore important variables unless you were to use another approach which increases accuracy of predictions.
Quote from: luckyfella on Oct 15, 10:27 PM 2018Wins millions playing his stupid voodooish system at table max, you as pitboss shall allow him to keep playing to his hearts content ?
At some point, no matter how you win, the casino wont tolerate a consistent winner.
Quote from: luckyfella on Oct 15, 10:27 PM 2018That stupid systems fool will eventually lose back everything plus millions of his own, isn't that true ?
If a player won lots, first the casino will probably give them a few free drinks to keep them occupied while surveillance checks footage.
If cheating is not suspected, and it appears the player won from luck, they'll pay out winnings AND offer the player a free room or whatever to encourage them to keep playing and LOSE their winnings.
If AP is suspected but without cheating, they'll pay the player and put them on the Griffin database, so they and other casinos can better track and deal with them, before they do more damage. The casino wont be interested in giving you perks to encourage further play.
If cheating is suspected, they'll try to prove it by calling the police, who are the only ones able to legally detain and search a player. And if they find cheating appears to have taken place, they'll refuse payout.
Quote from: Steve on Oct 15, 10:43 PM 2018
If a player won lots, first the casino will probably give them a few free drinks to keep them occupied while surveillance checks footage.
If cheating is not suspected, and it appears the player won from luck, they'll pay out winnings AND offer the player a free room or whatever to encourage them to keep playing and LOSE their winnings.
Lets assume no cheating, no AP, no physics, no precog
Just plain old stupid voodoo systems play
Win by luck, you say
Keeps on winning at table max
You allow this
lucky systems player to keep playing ?
Note : casino has house edge
That's my question
Quote from: Steve on Oct 15, 10:43 PM 2018
.....unless you were to use another approach which increases accuracy of predictions.
Ofc that's the case
Isn't that obvious to you ?
No. At some point, they'll do whatever they must to stop you.
I'll give one example. A casino couldnt figure out how one team kept winning. It was just bias, but the team disguised bets very well with team play. The casino tried lots of different things to make them lose but it had no effect because they were poorly trained and didn't know how they kept winning.
Eventually the casino banned them. It resulted in a court case which the player won, but by then the casino figured it out.
The are also cases where system players were banned for winning too much but they are very rare.
Quote from: luckyfella on Oct 15, 11:03 PM 2018
Ofc that's the case
Isn't that obvious to you ?
Yes it's obvious. You're referring to systems in general. When i say losing systems, I'm referring specifically to proven ineffective approaches.
Put it this way... if someone came into your house and kept crapping on your carpet, would you allow it to continue?
If you win with ap style play, the casino will react much more quickly than if your play looked like a typical system. Why do you think that is?
If you take casino money consistently, you are not welcome
Does not matter if it's AP, RC, precog, systems
If players are smart, which they usually are, they can keep doing it for a very long time, anywhere they wish with the casinos lavishing them with perks :thumbsup:
Generally anyone beating casinos is not interested in free drinks and perks. Free drinks are more for slots players so they keep pumping in coins.
Quote from: Steve on Oct 15, 11:31 PM 2018
Generally anyone beating casinos is not interested in free drinks and perks. Free drinks are more for slots players so they keep pumping in coins.
This I agree :thumbsup:
We must act like what any normal patron do, just another loser
Quote from: luckyfella on Oct 15, 11:37 PM 2018
We must act like what any normal patron do, just another loser
You got it. Look all sad and depressed because of the money you've lost, and look around for budget hookers because you have to pay for sex. Between losing sessions, check forum messages on your phone, and criticize anyone possible to look like you're trying to make yourself feel superior.
Basically, look like Ken (mr J) :thumbsup:
@PrecogMiles - Your post is sighted towards majority of Sys players that you see on here debating the same periodic notions (*though some with merit)
**In reality - 'The psychology of a system player' is vastly different to the psychology of consistent winning system player (*as in any field - as an example - There are athletes and then there are athletes that get paid to be athletes ....similar player - diff belief - diff results)
- the consistent winning system players are very much different in their approach - this comes with getting runs on the board, building acumen and knowing that it is possible
**documented throughout history - only when majority begin to start 'knowing' then it will become norm
**As with precog - when majority become still n aware and then start ‘knowing’ - then it will become the norm
Not really interested in the cyclic debates with any of the AP/VB posters either - just sharing my take on it
Best Wishes
:thumbsup:
Quote from: -Katalyst- on Oct 16, 10:52 AM 2018
@PrecogMiles - Your post is sighted towards majority of Sys players that you see on here debating the same periodic notions (*though some with merit)
**In reality - 'The psychology of a system player' is vastly different to the psychology of consistent winning system player (*as in any field - as an example - There are athletes and then there are athletes that get paid to be athletes ....similar player - diff belief - diff results)
- the consistent winning system players are very much different in their approach - this comes with getting runs on the board, building acumen and knowing that it is possible
**documented throughout history - only when majority begin to start 'knowing' then it will become norm
**As with precog - when majority become still n aware and then start ‘knowing’ - then it will become the norm
Not really interested in the cyclic debates with any of the AP/VB posters either - just sharing my take on it
Best Wishes
:thumbsup:
Great reply. I agree. There seems to be too many systems players repeating the same old topics. Don't they realise how crazy it sounds? ::shrug::
I've been observing the forum for a while and it really does seem like ground hog day in here. I still don't understand why the system players keep on insisting there is a math based approach to beating roulette.
Repeaters again
369 system
Watching dozens
Even Ignatius makes it clear his systems are not HGs.
All systems are useless against random.
Is it really that complex to understand the only way to beat this game is to improve accuracy?
It is very bizarre.
Quote from: precogmiles on Nov 14, 11:09 AM 2019All systems are useless against random.
Is it really that complex to understand the only way to beat this game is to improve accuracy?
Yes and when players understand WHY you need to increase the accuracy of predictions, next players should thoroughly TEST to see if their bet selection method actually increases the accuracy.
Don't just test a few spins. Test as many as you can. It needs to be statistically relevant. Its not so simple to test tens of thousands of spins with some approaches, but do the best you can. And cross reference other data to verify, which will reduce the amount of data needed for high confidence.
Quote from: precogmiles on Nov 14, 11:09 AM 2019It is very bizarre.
But not quite as bizarre as believing that you can predict the future. :o
Quote from: Joe on Nov 18, 03:38 AM 2019
But not quite as bizarre as believing that you can predict the future. :o
Keep believing precog can't happen.
Have you tried it yet?
Quote from: precogmiles on Nov 18, 06:20 AM 2019Have you tried it yet?
I've tried guessing, which is the same thing.
Quote from: Joe on Nov 20, 04:04 AM 2019
I've tried guessing, which is the same thing.
Not exactly. Guessing derives from the mind.
When you play precog method your mind supposed to be empty and relaxed with an intention or rather invitation to seek the next spin outcome.
In that empty state information will start to form either as a form of intuition or other psychic means. It could be projected on a physical surface like a cloud or black mirror surface, or it could be a dream like vision in altered state of consciousness.
It could be a voice or simply a firm knowingness. Other means when synchronicity occurs and signales what to bet. I think this is somewhat similar to the original codex 369 method.
I know for a fact these methods works because I have experienced it myself.
3 consecutive single number hits several times occured to me in the past when I experimented with these methods. It is rather unlikely to be just a simple coincidence.
Quote from: Joe on Nov 20, 04:04 AM 2019
I've tried guessing, which is the same thing.
Sure, if you say so :twisted:
Quote from: Kairomancer on Nov 20, 08:50 AM 2019
Not exactly. Guessing derives from the mind.
When you play precog method your mind supposed to be empty and relaxed with an intention or rather invitation to seek the next spin outcome.
In that empty state information will start to form either as a form of intuition or other psychic means. It could be projected on a physical surface like a cloud or black mirror surface, or it could be a dream like vision in altered state of consciousness.
It could be a voice or simply a firm knowingness. Other means when synchronicity occurs and signales what to bet. I think this is somewhat similar to the original codex 369 method.
I know for a fact these methods works because I have experienced it myself.
3 consecutive single number hits several times occured to me in the past when I experimented with these methods. It is rather unlikely to be just a simple coincidence.
It's very impressive that you got 3 in a row. Can you explain what was the exact state of mind you were in. What type of noise was around you? What was your focus on.
It's very fascinating, if really appreciate if you could go into as much detail as possible. :thumbsup:
link:s://youtu.be/8xNVrB3g7WY
Quote from: precogmiles on Nov 20, 03:22 PM 2019
It's very impressive that you got 3 in a row. Can you explain what was the exact state of mind you were in. What type of noise was around you? What was your focus on.
It's very fascinating, if really appreciate if you could go into as much detail as possible. :thumbsup:
My first consecutive two hits happened after I tried candle focus for the first time on full moon playing with real money on my local casino's android app. My mind was in a receptive and suggestible state. It was almost hypnotic.
A number started to form in the shadow that I could clearly catch then another one.
I was so excited that I had to take a day rest and I got another hit at the next morning after having a clairvoyant vision of a number in my dream. It was enough confirmation for me. It is strange that I have never ever tried this method again.
Probably I have some nasty self sabotaging limiting believes around this that needs to be cleared.
This obsession of winning by psychic roulette all started when my elder brother demonstrated his experiments with remote viewing ability to me with a simple drill I witnessed.
Then a few months later he did a demonstration on my girlfriend. She is very sensitive to all kind of psychic stuff. They tried associative remote viewing on her. It is a drill in which you have to draw and use the information to deduce the target from it. The moment she was drawing with the pen an image suddenly popped in her mind with the target without even finishing the drawing. Then something strange happened, because I saw the target in my mind as well. I was blown away. This was a turning point for me and I started to research all kind of psychic phenomena.
So I had an idea there must be a way to use this on roulette. I am not sure why I chose this game as a vehicle. I was extremely interested to win by psychic means on roulette and I was researching the remote viewing topic on this forum and roulettewarriors youtube channel for confirmation.
In the beginning I was too lazy to practice meditation, or other rituals so I come up with a simple method which used synchronicities as a source for roulette numbers.
Whenever I saw roulette wheels on tv or other physical synchronistic events related to the game or carried a special meaning for me I played that number.
It was a successful start. I had around 1 in 7 hit ratio.
Later I experimented by other methods as well.
When I practice energy drills like reiki, sometimes I go unconscious and find myself in dream like states with visions. Whenever I see a number in these states I am 100 percent confident that the number will hit and it does in max 2 tries.
I think all method starts with the strong intention and belief in the possibility of seeing the future of roulette numbers. Then you just have to notice when it shows up in your reality and have the balls to play it. I had many dreams in the morning with roulette numbers that turned out to be a winner. I believe you have to be 100 percent confident in yourself for it to work.
The method you use is not important. Sometimes you will notice that you strongly attract numbers in your reality.
It feels almost like that you are going crazy, but when this happens you know that it will win. Sometimes you are so confident that you are genuinely surprised when it has not won on the first try and you eagerly play the next spin and there you have your cake.
This is the frame of mind you should have.
One of the most extreme example was when I was seeing the same physical reality symbols for weeks. It took me some time to decode it to 3 numbers; 19, 22, 0.
I believe these 3 numbers represent a portal.
Unfortunately I am not sure how it works yet.
Eventually I took a tour into to our local casino and all the numbers came out in this sequence.
That was insane. The same thing happened later as well.
It is exactly like the formula laid out in the codex tesla 369 video.
First step you have to come up with the intention. Next step is going into the receptive state.
You can do this actively or passively whatever works for you. Active methods are rituals that resonate with you. You can even willingly induce coincidences. These are all astal blueprints.
Some of them blend into the physical for you to notice.
Third step is when you make all this happen. You create your reality by taking confident action.
There is an instant and clear physical feedback when you are not in this state.
Research the work of Dr. Hasai Aliev, The synchromethod.
Quote from: Kairomancer on Nov 20, 07:45 PM 2019
My first consecutive two hits happened after I tried candle focus for the first time on full moon playing with real money on my local casino's android app. My mind was in a receptive and suggestible state. It was almost hypnotic.
A number started to form in the shadow that I could clearly catch then another one.
I was so excited that I had to take a day rest and I got another hit at the next morning after having a clairvoyant vision of a number in my dream. It was enough confirmation for me. It is strange that I have never ever tried this method again.
Probably I have some nasty self sabotaging limiting believes around this that needs to be cleared.
This obsession of winning by psychic roulette all started when my elder brother demonstrated his experiments with remote viewing ability to me with a simple drill I witnessed.
Then a few months later he did a demonstration on my girlfriend. She is very sensitive to all kind of psychic stuff. They tried associative remote viewing on her. It is a drill in which you have to draw and use the information to deduce the target from it. The moment she was drawing with the pen an image suddenly popped in her mind with the target without even finishing the drawing. Then something strange happened, because I saw the target in my mind as well. I was blown away. This was a turning point for me and I started to research all kind of psychic phenomena.
So I had an idea there must be a way to use this on roulette. I am not sure why I chose this game as a vehicle. I was extremely interested to win by psychic means on roulette and I was researching the remote viewing topic on this forum and roulettewarriors youtube channel for confirmation.
In the beginning I was too lazy to practice meditation, or other rituals so I come up with a simple method which used synchronicities as a source for roulette numbers.
Whenever I saw roulette wheels on tv or other physical synchronistic events related to the game or carried a special meaning for me I played that number.
It was a successful start. I had around 1 in 7 hit ratio.
Later I experimented by other methods as well.
When I practice energy drills like reiki, sometimes I go unconscious and find myself in dream like states with visions. Whenever I see a number in these states I am 100 percent confident that the number will hit and it does in max 2 tries.
I think all method starts with the strong intention and belief in the possibility of seeing the future of roulette numbers. Then you just have to notice when it shows up in your reality and have the balls to play it. I had many dreams in the morning with roulette numbers that turned out to be a winner. I believe you have to be 100 percent confident in yourself for it to work.
The method you use is not important. Sometimes you will notice that you strongly attract numbers in your reality.
It feels almost like that you are going crazy, but when this happens you know that it will win. Sometimes you are so confident that you are genuinely surprised when it has not won on the first try and you eagerly play the next spin and there you have your cake.
This is the frame of mind you should have.
One of the most extreme example was when I was seeing the same physical reality symbols for weeks. It took me some time to decode it to 3 numbers; 19, 22, 0.
I believe these 3 numbers represent a portal.
Unfortunately I am not sure how it works yet.
Eventually I took a tour into to our local casino and all the numbers came out in this sequence.
That was insane. The same thing happened later as well.
It is exactly like the formula laid out in the codex tesla 369 video.
First step you have to come up with the intention. Next step is going into the receptive state.
You can do this actively or passively whatever works for you. Active methods are rituals that resonate with you. You can even willingly induce coincidences. These are all astal blueprints.
Some of them blend into the physical for you to notice.
Third step is when you make all this happen. You create your reality by taking confident action.
There is an instant and clear physical feedback when you are not in this state.
Research the work of Dr. Hasai Aliev, The synchromethod.
Great response, thanks for the detailed reply. I can ask confirm that you have to be 100% certain and believe that you will get the number. I also agree about being in a daydream like state. It's amazing how so many of us who have actually attempted precog come to the same conclusion.
Do you practice it regularly? Do you also meditate?
I couldn't find any english videos of hasai aliev. Do you know where I can get english versions?
I got an error and my long post just vanished.
Probably you need to figure out this on your own. Nevermind it was probably not a good time to discuss this.
You can read his work on amazon or scribd.
Quote from: Kairomancer on Nov 21, 06:52 PM 2019
I got an error and my long post just vanished.
Probably you need to figure out this on your own. Nevermind it was probably not a good time to discuss this.
You can read his work on amazon or scribd.
Thanks for the resource.
Quote from: Kali49 on Nov 20, 05:30 PM 2019
link:s://youtu.be/8xNVrB3g7WY
Yes it's real. It's amazing what the mind can do.