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Title: My bunker
Post by: nottophammer on Nov 16, 05:32 AM 2018
Sitting here in my bunker, bored out of my brain, My Rheumatoid arthritis has my body locked up again.
What can I do to ease the boredom and pain, I know, I’ll spin the wheel again, will it ease my pain? 
Is it too late to stop the pain or will I gain?

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So look is too late, would this gain ease your pain?
Title: Re: My bunker
Post by: nottophammer on Nov 16, 06:47 AM 2018
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Thought i'd done 60 spins. But even if the next bet had lost, would still been in profit as bet was around 500 units.

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So 4#'s repeated gone R3
Spin 43 was 6100 units; ignore the bank that's showing KTF; which for the benefit of the GENERAL won it's goal spin 18

So MPR and R-sim both positive

Any idea what the 2 games are using?
Title: Re: My bunker
Post by: nottophammer on Nov 16, 07:02 AM 2018
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Crash
Title: Re: My bunker
Post by: nottophammer on Nov 16, 07:12 AM 2018
somewhere reliable not too crash
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Title: Re: My bunker
Post by: nottophammer on Nov 16, 07:18 AM 2018
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3 non-hit came spins 56,57,58


So the biggest question when do you stop, even using a crazy bet like above
Title: Re: My bunker
Post by: nottophammer on Nov 16, 08:11 AM 2018
Did the great Turbo not say bet every spin

As BBB said somewhere or was it Mako bring 2000 to win 2000

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Title: Re: My bunker
Post by: nottophammer on Nov 16, 09:51 AM 2018
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So sitting in the bunker and using R-sim i can see the crazy bet is gooooooooooooood
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Now it's back to MPR and the crazy bet has won even allowing for the crash.
Title: Re: My bunker
Post by: Bigbroben on Nov 16, 10:00 AM 2018
Quote from: nottophammer on Nov 16, 08:11 AM 2018


As BBB said somewhere or was it Mako bring 2000 to win 2000


Wasn't me. Must have been Mako or Nimo.

You're head seems to be sharp still, hope your body will recover.
Title: Re: My bunker
Post by: nottophammer on Nov 16, 10:03 AM 2018
As usual Mrs hammer comes along and say's you got to go out, typical

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Thanks BBB :thumbsup:
Title: Re: My bunker
Post by: nottophammer on Nov 16, 12:11 PM 2018
Evening the Law
with so many non-hit hitting in 1st 20 spins, you've got to be crazy for this :lol:
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There's 60 spins you know it's fast 30 sec's to note numbers and make bets
But as said lots of non-hit at start, but this is expected.
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Title: Re: My bunker
Post by: The General on Nov 16, 12:20 PM 2018
Run two tests simultaneously.  Each time you bet, also make a random bet that equals the same amount of  numbers bet using your system. 

1.  One test represents your numbers.
2.  One test is the control, where you just pick the numbers at random

Then compare the two tests.
Title: Re: My bunker
Post by: nottophammer on Nov 16, 12:27 PM 2018
Quote from: The General on Nov 16, 12:20 PM 2018
Run two tests simultaneously.  Each time you bet, also make a random bet that equals the same amount of  numbers bet using your system. 

1.  One test represents your numbers.
2.  One test is the control, where you just pick the numbers at random

Then compare the two tests.
don't have the time, but you do it
Title: Re: My bunker
Post by: nottophammer on Nov 16, 12:28 PM 2018
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Title: Re: My bunker
Post by: nottophammer on Nov 16, 12:54 PM 2018
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Now i loved this game i stopped on the win of #21 giving +500
Now as i've done my homework on non-hit and was in spins 51-60 it had gone 7 spins no non-hit and non-hit are behind. So with good profit, stop, and guess what that #20 is a non-hit
As this is betting repeats saved some units.

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Title: Re: My bunker
Post by: Mako on Nov 16, 01:48 PM 2018
Quote from: The General on Nov 16, 12:20 PM 2018
Run two tests simultaneously.  Each time you bet, also make a random bet that equals the same amount of  numbers bet using your system. 

1.  One test represents your numbers.
2.  One test is the control, where you just pick the numbers at random

Then compare the two tests.

Let it be known, that on this day, the Sixteenth of November, in the year 2018, that Caleb actually gave helpful advice for us lowly lowly bottom-dwelling sewer people (system players).   :xd: :thumbsup:

I do the above when I test large number systems, it seems like the best way to make sure you're actually getting an edge versus just the high hitrate that large number bets bring inherently.

I also like to compare the net result with the probability of the odds, often times I've had a "winning" system on say double dozens, or another high hitrate bet, that looked like it was providing and edge, but after adding everything up and looking at the hits fell within a close enough range of probability to just be considered a nice run (luck) because the net % was close enough to probability to just be luck at play. 

Even after 10k spins it can still be just luck if the expected result is close enough to the system's result, like say the DD system I tested coming in at a 66.5% winrate while probability from the pockets on the wheel versus the bet being fixed at 64.86% (24/37).

Keep going notto, enjoy seeing how you apply the expected returns on repeats versus unhits to the table, so many ways to explore these KTF variants.  :love:
Title: Re: My bunker
Post by: nottophammer on Nov 16, 02:58 PM 2018
Question
With 8'000 bankroll and let's say 70 spins; do you think the eventual bust will come?
Title: Re: My bunker
Post by: Mako on Nov 16, 03:30 PM 2018
Quote from: nottophammer on Nov 16, 02:58 PM 2018
Question
With 8'000 bankroll and let's say 70 spins; do you think the eventual bust will come?

I do not.

I've done enough KTF by hand, using my own live spins, over weeks worth of time, to know that if the bankroll is high enough, and you're using a properly conservative progression (+1/-1, etc), you have very little to no chance of being wiped out if you're following the schedule of what is expected versus what has arrived (1,3,5,7,30,etc).

The reason I continue to test, and enjoy doing so, is because I want to find out what the optimal, best version, of KTF is...whether it's First 10, or a full cycle, or 2-4 full cycles in a row, etc.

This links up with Gordon's great work, both are predicated on what "has" to happen within a set number of spins, whether it's repeats and unhits being nearly identical after a full cycle, or whether it's showing that if you have no repeats at all by the time the 18th spin of a cycle occurs you're more than likely to hit one...or more...very shortly.
Title: Re: My bunker
Post by: nottophammer on Nov 16, 03:50 PM 2018
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Title: Re: My bunker
Post by: nottophammer on Nov 16, 04:05 PM 2018
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