I'm looking for anyone to test a very simple Dozens System. Preferably using Roulette Xtreme 2.0 software (:.uxsoftware.com). But other testing methods is fine.
System: Simply follow and bet on the current Dozen.
Progression: Keep adding 1 unit, win or lose, until Balance reaches a new high, then re-set back to 1 unit, each time.
European Roulette - NO Limits Table
Test: 100,000 spins
I just need to know the largest Draw-down at any given point. And the largest Bet units reached. I am thinking that a 100,000 unit Bankroll should cover the largest draw-down period.
I am willing to pay a minimal small fee to compensate you for your time & efforts (PayPal or Bitcoin). Or if anyone can give me a resource where I can hire someone who would know coding language for the Roulette Xtreme 2.0 software.
Thanks! 8)
FYI -- I've begun manually testing a different version of this, where you just stick with 1 particular Dozen (easier, faster to test, compared to "following" a Dozen). There will be long periods where it looks really good, but then out of the blue you will hit very large draw-down period of over 2,000 spins (-70,000 units) which obviously will make you hit any & all Table Limits.
So this will only work if you are going to bet Penny units, and maybe a $1,000 Bankroll might be enough. Obviously this won't be worth it to most if not all players, BUT to a Day Trader it looks very tempting on a NO Limit Table. 📈 ;)
Can be coded easily. I can do it in excel tomorrow. Pm me your emailaddress, there is no need to pay for this.
I did too this morning with Excel. File was too large to share if 100k spins are to be tested. I guess a file with a few hundred spins couls be shared. You'd have to drag down for 2 minutes until 100k.
I saw once in a 100k spin test a drawdown of 590 000 units and came back with 70k units on the doz. Normally, past 10k it does not come back.
You'd get normally a few thiusand new highs then it would fail down a million at spin 100k. You indeed could play a long time.
But for sure a br of 100k units gets wiped out soon or later.
Foreverbob, i'd be curious to see how you code it with excel. Share!
Quote from: Bigbroben on Dec 06, 05:58 PM 2018I saw once in a 100k spin test a drawdown of 590 000 units and came back with 70k units on the doz. Normally, past 10k it does not come back.
Is this test with Excel, or with an actual Roulette testing software like Roulette Xtreme 2.0 (:.uxsoftware.com)?
I will post the Rx code tomorrow morning for free (5 minutes code), sorry, no time tonight. O0
Quote from: Normy2000 on Dec 06, 06:27 PM 2018I will post the Rx code tomorrow morning for free (5 minutes code), sorry, no time tonight.
Cool, thanks! 8)
Here my friend:
[reveal]
system "Hottest Dozen"
// Coded by Normy2000
method "main"
begin
While starting a new session
begin
put 0 on record "Prev Bankroll" data
put 1 on record "Bet Unit" data
clear record "Target Dozen" Layout
end
copy last dozen to record "Target Dozen" Layout
Call "Bet"
end
// ****************************************************************************
Method "Bet"
begin
if Bankroll >= record "Prev Bankroll" data
begin
put 1 on record "Bet Unit" data
put 100% Bankroll on record "Prev Bankroll" data
end
if Bankroll < record "Prev Bankroll" data
begin
Add 1 to record "Bet Unit" data
end
put 100% record "Bet Unit" data on record "Target Dozen" layout
end
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Quote from: RP501 on Dec 06, 06:23 PM 2018
Is this test with Excel, or with an actual Roulette testing software like Roulette Xtreme 2.0 (:.uxsoftware.com)?
Yes,Excel. She is my mistress.
Quote from: Normy2000 on Dec 06, 06:45 PM 2018Here my friend:
REVEAL: SHOW
WOW!!! The RX Code worked!! My first time seeing the RX software work in automated mode - like MAGIC!!! Thanks a MILLION NORMY2000!!! :thumbsup:
Cheers! 8)
Quote from: Normy2000 on Dec 06, 06:45 PM 2018system "Hottest Dozen"
// Coded by Normy2000
method "main"
begin
While starting a new session
begin
put 0 on record "Prev Bankroll" data
put 1 on record "Bet Unit" data
clear record "Target Dozen" Layout
end
copy last dozen to record "Target Dozen" Layout
Call "Bet"
end
// ****************************************************************************
Method "Bet"
begin
if Bankroll >= record "Prev Bankroll" data
begin
put 1 on record "Bet Unit" data
put 100% Bankroll on record "Prev Bankroll" data
end
if Bankroll < record "Prev Bankroll" data
begin
Add 1 to record "Bet Unit" data
end
put 100% record "Bet Unit" data on record "Target Dozen" layout
end
It doesn't look like it's adding 1 Unit, win or lose, and that it's not going by the "previous
highest" bankroll, not just the previous high. And it's betting 2 units on the 1st Dozen, in addition to the 2nd or 3rd Dozen. Although the way it is currently, seems to be working still. ;D
<img src="link:://:.pichost.org/images/2018/12/06/RXCapture.png" alt="RXCapture.png" border="0" />
Quote from: RP501 on Dec 06, 08:20 PM 2018It doesn't look like it's adding 1 Unit, win or lose, and that it's not going by the "previous highest" bankroll, not just the previous high. And it's betting 2 units on the 1st Dozen, in addition to the 2nd or 3rd Dozen.
I think there was a glitch, now it's working. I did a couple of 25,000 spins, and it eventually tanks every time. :o
<img src="link:://:.pichost.org/images/2018/12/07/RXGraph-ChasingDozensFitzroyMethod.png" alt="RXGraph-ChasingDozensFitzroyMethod.png" border="0" />
Yeah, this was already known over 100 years ago by the shareholders of Monte Carlo.
Quote from: Let Me Win on Dec 06, 10:40 PM 2018
Yeah, this was already known over 100 years ago by the shareholders of Monte Carlo.
Do you have any contributions to make in the game?
Yes, lots.
But I am really bored of reading countless versions of wait for x to happen then do y followed by a lengthy negative progression.
It's absurd as all these methods were discussed and clearly demonstrated to be specular lossers in textbooks written during the last century.
Come on, don't waste my time or your time with this bullsh!t.
Quote from: Let Me Win on Dec 07, 12:16 AM 2018It's absurd as all these methods were discussed and clearly demonstrated to be specular lossers in textbooks written during the last century.
Not everyone is well-versed in the game of Roulette. That's why we come here to find-out & test and "see" for ourselves.
Didn't mean to waste your time. Since you are so convinced that Roulette can't be beaten long-term, then perhaps you're better off not wasting your time in here. ;)
I didn't say roullete cant be beaten did I?
Why are you making assumptions?
The solution could be found within the binomial parachute.
Quote from: RP501 on Dec 06, 08:20 PM 2018It doesn't look like it's adding 1 Unit, win or lose, and that it's not going by the "previous highest" bankroll, not just the previous high. And it's betting 2 units on the 1st Dozen, in addition to the 2nd or 3rd Dozen. Although the way it is currently, seems to be working still.
Humm! I don't know what program you are running? but the following picture show result for the program i sent you...
Quote from: Normy2000 on Dec 07, 08:09 AM 2018Humm! I don't know what program you are running? but the following picture show result for the program i sent you...
I just started using the RX 2.0 software, and apparently I did something wrong initially, but I figured it out and it worked fine.
The Fitzroy progression method with adding 1 unit until Bankroll reaches a new high -- it eventually tanks within 25,000 spins. So it doesn't work.
Can you give me an RX code using the Labouchere progression with the Dozen, but have it re-set when it reaches a new Bankroll high, instead of resetting after the sequence is done? I know the Labby is for EC, but want to see how it would work with 2-1, but resets when new high hits instead. :thumbsup:
Quote from: Let Me Win on Dec 07, 04:29 AM 2018The solution could be found within the binomial parachute.
Ahhh, you found the Holy Grail of Roulette? How much is that System selling for? ;D
Quote from: RP501 on Dec 07, 09:39 AM 2018
Can you give me an RX code using the Labouchere progression with the Dozen
I really would like to know how to code the Labouchere with Excel.
The tough part is to put the nrs in a side-bank as reference to know what units are next.
Anyone?
This site is rather user friendly for different simulators. I'd personally change some parameters, but it's a good basis:
link:s://:.bettingsimulation.com/
Not selling anything?
Otherwise I would post in the for sale section?
I even made a new topic about it but of course there is no interest so I shall not bother either. No worries there.