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Question: Dear visitors of the Forum please Express your opinion about the bet in the game with a negative expectation!Mathematical justification is welcome!Tomorrow I'll write what mathematicians think!
Option 1:  flat bet votes: 2
Option 2:  progressive bet votes: 0
Option 3: I don't know votes: 3
Title: opinion about the rates in the game with a negative expectation
Post by: evs on Jan 07, 02:01 AM 2019
Dear visitors of the Forum please Express your opinion about the rates in the game with a negative expectation! Need to raise?
Title: Re: opinion about the rates in the game with a negative expectation
Post by: Taotie on Jan 07, 03:55 AM 2019
no need to raise, but sometimes raising is good for more profit
Title: Re: opinion about the rates in the game with a negative expectation
Post by: Bigbroben on Jan 07, 06:34 AM 2019
It's about timing?
You gotta raise at the right moment to maximize profits.  But if outcome is unpredictable, the concept of timing is irrelevant?

My expression.
Title: Re: opinion about the rates in the game with a negative expectation
Post by: evs on Jan 07, 07:07 AM 2019
tomorrow I will write what I think of mathematics
Title: Re: opinion about the rates in the game with a negative expectation
Post by: The General on Jan 07, 10:18 AM 2019
Quote from: evs on Jan 07, 02:01 AM 2019
Dear visitors of the Forum please Express your opinion about the rates in the game with a negative expectation! Need to raise?

Can you rephrase the question?  It doesn't really make any sense.
Title: Re: opinion about the rates in the game with a negative expectation
Post by: evs on Jan 07, 10:31 AM 2019
Quote from: The General on Jan 07, 10:18 AM 2019
Can you rephrase the question?  It doesn't really make any sense.

Dear visitors of the Forum please Express your opinion about the bet in the game with a negative expectation!

1) flat bet
2)increasing bet at a certain time
Title: Re: opinion about the rates in the game with a negative expectation
Post by: The General on Jan 07, 10:36 AM 2019
Quote from: evs on Jan 07, 10:31 AM 2019
Dear visitors of the Forum please Express your opinion about the bet in the game with a negative expectation!

1) flat bet
2)increasing bet at a certain time

I'm still confused by the question.
Title: Re: opinion about the rates in the game with a negative expectation
Post by: Bigbroben on Jan 07, 10:50 AM 2019
An interesting reading for you...

Title: Re: opinion about the rates in the game with a negative expectation
Post by: evs on Jan 07, 02:59 PM 2019
Dear visitors of the Forum please Express your opinion about the bet in the game with a negative expectation!

1) flat bet
2) progressive bet

Mathematical justification is welcome!
Tomorrow I'll write what mathematicians think!
Title: Re: opinion about the rates in the game with a negative expectation
Post by: Person S on Jan 08, 01:18 PM 2019
If the expectation is negative, then a flat bet is doomed to lose.
Perhaps the progression can correct the situation, because the martingale still works, at short distances - this can be seen on some Ignatus systems.

In fact, I am not a mathematician, but I think that under certain circumstances = the entry point to the game, we can gain an advantage ... (Do not take it seriously)))
Title: Re: opinion about the rates in the game with a negative expectation
Post by: Bigbroben on Jan 08, 02:43 PM 2019
It'S a survey, so you can click your choice on top of the page.
Title: Re: opinion about the rates in the game with a negative expectation
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Jan 08, 06:21 PM 2019
Flat-bet hit and run breaks bt sessions imo is a winner.
Title: Re: opinion about the rates in the game with a negative expectation
Post by: ignatus on Jan 08, 06:32 PM 2019
Quote from: Proofreaders2000 on Jan 08, 06:21 PM 2019
Flat-bet hit and run breaks bt sessions imo is a winner.

Hi Proof!...:)....Blessings Upon you! <3 ...Well?, first off, i just wanted to say, "there is no running"... :) you must play to the End......and? IF you lose... That's it....(what i mean by that?)....it's absolute no, worry, no fear, no anxiousness, or "care" about a complete Loss....Why?..Reson why?....because?...simple as that,...you,..plan, the next attack and Re-start the Game,....procedure....:) ...then? you will continue, UNTIL, finally,,....you start to getting PROFIT,...that is, (hopefully),...a profit, that Is,....neverending....(true story)...Cheers<3
Title: Re: opinion about the rates in the game with a negative expectation
Post by: Firefox on Feb 12, 12:32 AM 2019
Well some time, and he didn't write what mathematicians think about a negative expectation game.

With a flat bet  you will lose.

With a negative progression bet (increasing bet when you lose) you will lose more, but your loss pattern will be different. A series of small wins coupled with spectacular losses which will cancel your wins plus the house edge.

With a positive progression bet (increasing bet when you win) you will lose more but your loss pattern will be different. A series of small losses coupled with spectacular wins which won't quite cover your losses.

In the long run your loss will be the amount bet multiplied by the house edge  for that bet type.

A progression means you bet more, and betting higher exposes greater sums to the house edge.