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Title: AI~"Last 8 FLATBET"
Post by: ignatus on Jan 08, 06:41 AM 2019
Well now,...This is,...an "Artificial Intelligence",...I am the creator of this,....but, i give credits to, my "advisors", also, i give credit to Irish88, who gave me the original idea,...

Blessings and Wellwishing to Everyone! <3

System "AI~Last 8 FLATBET"

Procedure; (For each spin), bet each number that Hits,.. (FLATBET the last *8 numbers*) ....When 8 numbers are bet, (Stop/Restart procedure)...

BR; 500u
Wingoal; 100u

Test 1,2,3 (Random RX-spins, 1u bets)...

RX-code "AI~Last 8 FLATBET"

System "AI~Last 8 FLATBET"
//(copyright) ignatus 2019

method "main"
begin
while starting a new session
begin
   Set List [1] to Record "progression" Data
   Set List [1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8] to Record "Number Bet" Data
end

while on each spin
begin

If total inside bets count = 8 each
  begin
  Put 1 on Record "Numbers Bet" Data Index
  Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
  clear Record "last8" layout
  end

Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
add 1 on Record "Number Bet" Data Index
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "last8" layout list

{if Record "Numbers Bet" Data Index = 8 each time
begin
Put 1 on Record "Numbers Bet" Data Index
Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
clear Record "last8" layout
end }

if any number bet won each
begin
clear Record "last8" layout
Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
Put 1 on Record "Numbers Bet" Data Index
end

If Record "last8" layout list lost each time
begin
Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
add 1 on Record "Numbers Bet" Data Index
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "last8" layout list
end

If Record "progression" Data Index >
  Record "progression" Data Count
    Begin
     clear Record "last8" layout
     Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
     Put 1 on Record "Numbers Bet" Data
    End

Track last Number for 8 spins to
Record "last8" layout

if total bankroll >= 100 each time
begin
stop session
end

if total bankroll <= -500 each time
begin
stop session
end

  end
END



Title: Re: AI~"Last 8 FLATBET"
Post by: Irish88 on Jan 08, 07:02 AM 2019
So just to be clear Ignatus, you are betting one number each time out? 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8- in a step process?  If you reach 8 numbers, you bet it one time? No matter if you win or lose you back to step 1.
Title: Re: AI~"Last 8 FLATBET"
Post by: ignatus on Jan 08, 08:39 AM 2019
Quote from: Irish88 on Jan 08, 07:02 AM 2019
So just to be clear Ignatus, you are betting one number each time out? 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8- in a step process?  If you reach 8 numbers, you bet it one time? No matter if you win or lose you back to step 1.

Yes, that's correct, that's the procedure... 0:)
Title: Re: AI~"Last 8 FLATBET"
Post by: Sparks on Jan 08, 12:45 PM 2019
Hi IG,

I've been a long time watcher of the forums, new to participate.

Just tested your system in Excel vs 10k real spins, doesn't work out.
Title: Re: AI~"Last 8 FLATBET"
Post by: ignatus on Jan 08, 01:37 PM 2019
...Well now,..ofcourse you "didn't believe in it"....but i'd say this has absolute nothing to do with "belief"....this is... "something else"...Thank you,..

TEST 1-5 (FLATBET, 1u bets)

5/5 Games won,



Title: Re: AI~"Last 8 FLATBET"
Post by: nottophammer on Jan 08, 01:49 PM 2019
Of  course it wins; Don't spins 1-10 win? 1-1-1-1-1-1-1-2-2-3
Title: Re: AI~"Last 8 FLATBET"
Post by: Bigbroben on Jan 08, 02:20 PM 2019
Do they really?

They don't with Excel random, maybe they work with real wheel spins.
Title: Re: AI~"Last 8 FLATBET"
Post by: daveylibra on Jan 08, 02:24 PM 2019
This is good work Ignatus, the only issue I have with it is that, in your examples, your wingoal took 2000 spins to achieve once, and another time, 5000 spins!

Now in the real world, I would say we would sit and play 50 spins max. (online or at at a table.) I wouldn't want to get into the realm of bots. No, what we should do is, play one session, 1-50 spins. Maybe we achieve our wingoal in a few spins? Great, play another session on another table. Then quit for the day.

I also have RX, so how about we both test for wingoal of 50, or 50 spins, whichever comes sooner, and compare results? We probably need a stoploss too, what do you think?
Title: Re: AI~"Last 8 FLATBET"
Post by: Bigbroben on Jan 08, 02:42 PM 2019
Ignatus,
from observation, you keep on adding the nrs even when a hit before 8 nrs, right?  Until 8 no matter if a hit, 2 hits or more, or no hit at all?
Title: Re: AI~"Last 8 FLATBET"
Post by: Sparks on Jan 08, 03:42 PM 2019
Quote from: Bigbroben on Jan 08, 02:20 PM 2019
Do they really?

They don't with Excel random, maybe they work with real wheel spins.

I always use recorded real wheel spins when testing. I'll add in Nottos progression and also test with 10 spins as well as IGs 8 and post the results tomorrow.
Title: Re: AI~"Last 8 FLATBET"
Post by: nottophammer on Jan 08, 03:59 PM 2019
Quote from: Bigbroben on Jan 08, 02:20 PM 2019
Do they really?

They don't with Excel random, maybe they work with real wheel spins.

Look over at G oof  F  orum there they are shown repeats is the way
Title: Re: AI~"Last 8 FLATBET"
Post by: ignatus on Jan 08, 05:38 PM 2019
Quote from: nottophammer on Jan 08, 03:59 PM 2019
Look over at G oof  F  orum there they are shown repeats is the way

Blessings upon you notto! <3 That's what i wanted to say! 0:)...What have you tried this one/you havent run the code? What are the stats ? I can run it 30000 spins :P...we need to work together now, if this can be tested/tweked! =)
Title: Re: AI~"Last 8 FLATBET"
Post by: ignatus on Jan 08, 05:57 PM 2019
Quote from: Bigbroben on Jan 08, 02:42 PM 2019
Ignatus,
from observation, you keep on adding the nrs even when a hit before 8 nrs, right?  Until 8 no matter if a hit, 2 hits or more, or no hit at all?

Hi Bigbroben, blessings upon you! <3 ....Just bet each number that hits, ...then..at Any time it hits, you collect the profits,....then,... re-start/rebet, the current number hit (1u)...then, you bet, again, every number that hits,..Upto (8u)....If, any of those ((8u) bet is Lost, you also, (Stop/Restart procedure)/at (8u) bet....then, re-start/procedure (1u) at the current number hit..and so on :)
Title: Re: AI~"Last 8 FLATBET"
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Jan 08, 08:59 PM 2019
Ignatus I've tried this tactic, lost a fortune.
Title: Re: AI~"Last 8 FLATBET"
Post by: ignatus on Jan 08, 09:03 PM 2019
Quote from: Proofreaders2000 on Jan 08, 08:59 PM 2019
Ignatus I've tried this tactic, lost a fortune.

You be-gone from my thread, now. You will *not* prove me wrong, no... you!........you...im not sayin .....one more word......one more word? it will get worse and worse...im telling you...im not kidding...just...back off........right now,....youu have....no choise or option....you begone. NOT ONE MORE WORD. You get it?.....Thank you.
Title: Re: AI~"Last 8 FLATBET"
Post by: Bigbroben on Jan 08, 09:40 PM 2019
Quote from: Bigbroben on Jan 08, 02:42 PM 2019
Ignatus,
from observation, you keep on adding the nrs even when a hit before 8 nrs, right?  Until 8 no matter if a hit, 2 hits or more, or no hit at all?

I was wondering how the two little ''nipples'' were created?  I thought maybe this by running through 8 nrs even on a win, with the 8th spin a loss?

Can you describe how many nrs were played on those spins?

Thanks!
Title: Re: AI~"Last 8 FLATBET"
Post by: ignatus on Jan 08, 10:05 PM 2019
Quote from: Bigbroben on Jan 08, 09:40 PM 2019
I was wondering how the two little ''nipples'' were created?  I thought maybe this by running through 8 nrs even on a win, with the 8th spin a loss?

Can you describe how many nrs were played on those spins?

Thanks!

Alright, Bigbroben, thanks for testing,....i will discolse this now, and complete my work,...

The story behind the amount of spins,....is from "someone" who has "real life" experience, with that.....so,...im using, this wisdom/experience, toghether with, "this" and both of them now, conjourded togheter, will be the final result,...so..i see now,..this will work out, just as "we" have planned, because,.."the source is unknown"..but, now, we can make a, complete circle with this one,.... :)

Thank you Bigbroben<3
Title: Re: AI~"Last 8 FLATBET"
Post by: ignatus on Jan 08, 11:17 PM 2019
Wow! yes...thank you all for your support here, now,....for me, im so thankful and greatful,,.......simple as that,.. This IS a Miracle,.....yes....

FLATBET
Last 8
2 winners! YES!   :thumbsup:

  O0

Anyone like to change the code to a particular
"stoploss"
I didn't succed...
but, i WON Anyway  :xd:

cheers  :twisted:

RX code

System "AI~Last 8 FLATBET v2"
//(copyright) ignatus 2019

method "main"
begin
while starting a new session
begin
   Set List [1] to Record "progression" Data
   Set List [1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8] to Record "Number Bet" Data
end

while on each spin
begin

copy last Number to Record "last1" layout

IF Record "50 Spins Counter" layout index = 70
begin
Stop session
end

If total inside bets count = 8 each
  begin
  clear Record "last8" layout
  Put 1 on Record "Numbers Bet" Data Index
  Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
  end

Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
add 1 on Record "Number Bet" Data Index
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "last8" layout list

if any number bet won each
begin
clear Record "last8" layout
Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
Put 1 on Record "Numbers Bet" Data Index
end

If Record "last8" layout list lost each time
begin
Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
add 1 on Record "Numbers Bet" Data Index
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "last8" layout list
end

If Record "progression" Data Index >
  Record "progression" Data Count
    Begin
     clear Record "last8" layout
     Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
     Put 1 on Record "Numbers Bet" Data
    End

Track last Number for 8 spins to
Record "last8" layout

if total bankroll >= 100 each time
begin
stop session
end

if total bankroll <= -500 each time
begin
stop session
end

Track last Number for 50 spins to
Record "50 Spins Counter" layout

  end
END
Title: Re: AI~"Last 8 FLATBET"
Post by: ignatus on Jan 09, 11:38 AM 2019
Goodevening Everyone! :) ....Now, i will execute, v.3 of this system....

Thanks
Title: Re: AI~"Last 8 FLATBET"
Post by: ignatus on Jan 09, 12:00 PM 2019
//© Ischtaar Command. 2019.

Now. version 3, complete.

"AI~"Last 8 FLATBET"

ystem "AI~Last 8 FLATBET v3"
//(copyright) ignatus 2019

method "main"
begin
while starting a new session
begin
   Set List [1] to Record "progression" Data
   Set List [1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8] to Record "Number Bet" Data
end

while on each spin
begin

copy last Number to Record "last1" layout

IF Record "50 Spins Counter" layout index = 50
begin
Stop session
end

If total inside bets count = 8 each
  begin
  clear Record "last8" layout
  Put 1 on Record "Numbers Bet" Data Index
  Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
  end

Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
add 1 on Record "Number Bet" Data Index
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "last8" layout list

if any number bet won each
begin
clear Record "last8" layout
Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
Put 1 on Record "Numbers Bet" Data Index
end

If Record "last8" layout list lost each time
begin
Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
add 1 on Record "Numbers Bet" Data Index
Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "last8" layout list
end

If Record "progression" Data Index >
  Record "progression" Data Count
    Begin
     clear Record "last8" layout
     Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
     Put 1 on Record "Numbers Bet" Data
    End

Track last Number for 8 spins to
Record "last8" layout

if total bankroll >= 100 each time
begin
stop session
end

if total bankroll <= -500 each time
begin
stop session
end

Track last Number for 50 spins to
Record "50 Spins Counter" layout

  end
END


=============================================================

(Test 1,2,3,4,5 1u Bets, Random RX Spins).






Title: Re: AI~"Last 8 FLATBET"
Post by: Bigbroben on Jan 09, 12:03 PM 2019
Hi Ignatus,

can you explain these spikes?
What did you modify on V.3?
Title: Re: AI~"Last 8 FLATBET"
Post by: ignatus on Jan 09, 12:08 PM 2019
Hi Bigbroben,....the code for version 3, has been completed, now, so...use that code, for your own use/testings...

Thanks you,


Title: Re: AI~"Last 8 FLATBET"
Post by: Bigbroben on Jan 09, 12:10 PM 2019
Hi,
I do not have Rx, I use Excel.
What did you modify?  Explain the spikes!

And why are you summoning a sumerian God Ishtar?
Title: Re: AI~"Last 8 FLATBET"
Post by: ignatus on Jan 09, 12:16 PM 2019
Quote from: Bigbroben on Jan 09, 12:10 PM 2019
Hi,
I do not have Rx, I use Excel.
What did you modify?  Explain the spikes!

And why are you summoning a sumerian God Ishtar?

Bigbroben,....this is "my" "personal" alias "Ischtar" or "Ischtar command",....it's a name, that came to me, after i have, organized/moved on with my, "new life", that is , "me" ,...."Ischtar command"...simple as that, i cannot explain it in any other way,......

Bigbro, The command is now completed, that is, a "stoploss" at "50 spin",...this was, yet another thing that i was adviced by irish88, so credits to irish88,.....

Study the charts, ....it's all there,...

Thank you,
Title: Re: AI~"Last 8 FLATBET"
Post by: daveylibra on Jan 09, 02:24 PM 2019
Hi Ignatus & Ben

I did recommend the 50 spin stoploss if you look at my comment above.
Now as regards these peaks, is it to do with betting the 8 numbers twice, for some reason, as someone above mentioned?
Suppose we get to 8 unique numbers without a hit. We now need another spin to find the number to bet on when we reset. We could sit this spin out. But I think what Ignatus is doing is betting the 8 numbers again, then resetting.
What do you think Ben?
Title: Re: AI~"Last 8 FLATBET"
Post by: Bigbroben on Jan 09, 03:52 PM 2019
Yes, it looks like it. Down 8u, if I compare with the previous rise.

Title: Re: AI~"Last 8 FLATBET"
Post by: bikemotorman on Jan 11, 10:06 AM 2019
Hey guys on the Forum Stuart Brands here I actually really like this I've tried this now as I understand it and yes I'm doing this on my mobile phone so if there's any mistakes forgive me guys so what you do is you play 7 comes out you play that first 8 comes out you play that second now you're playing both of them nine comes out you play that then 10 comes out you play that then 14 comes out in you play that and then you all those together for 8 right so you go from one two three four five six seven eight numbers right is that correct I don't know is that how it's playing????
Title: Re: AI~"Last 8 FLATBET"
Post by: Irish88 on Jan 11, 10:21 AM 2019
I thought you bet each number as they come out 1 number at a time. Just like Notto ten block. But Ignatus is only 8 numbers. Once you have 8 numbers, you bet once win or lose you go back to the first step. 1 number.

10 comes out, you bet 10
3 comes out, you bet 10 and 3
7 comes out you bet 10,3 and 7.

If you get a hit within 8 spins, you restart at 1. If you lose on spin where you have 8 numbers covered just just reset at 1.
Title: Re: AI~"Last 8 FLATBET"
Post by: Bigbroben on Jan 11, 10:30 AM 2019
So that'S Vaddi's step1 1-8.  But it still doesn't explain the spikes in the graph...
Title: Re: AI~"Last 8 FLATBET"
Post by: Shogun on Jan 11, 11:01 AM 2019
Quote from: Bigbroben on Jan 11, 10:30 AM 2019
So that'S Vaddi's step1 1-8.  But it still doesn't explain the spikes in the graph...

Yes. I thought this was the same as Vaddis step 1.  But graph looks strange.  I will check the code later when at my pc.
I tested vaddis step 1 a couple of weeks ago. Out of interest.  It’s been tested by many people and on its own is not a long term winner.  Still I think it has something.
Title: Re: AI~"Last 8 FLATBET"
Post by: bikemotorman on Jan 11, 12:42 PM 2019
Okay so as I understand it if number one comes out we play number one if number three comes out we play number one and three if number 5 comes out we play number 1 3 and 5 and if number is 7 comes out we play 1 3 5 7 and so on up to eight numbers is that correct and if we win we reset and if we go again and if we don't get anything we will OK I don't know why it's so is that really what's going on so are you guys I'm on my mobile cell phone so I'm trying to get this to say what I'm trying to say but okay so we will go through that like that thanks.
Title: Re: AI~"Last 8 FLATBET"
Post by: Shogun on Jan 11, 12:55 PM 2019
Quote from: bikemotorman on Jan 11, 12:42 PM 2019
Okay so as I understand it if number one comes out we play number one if number three comes out we play number one and three if number 5 comes out we play number 1 3 and 5 and if number is 7 comes out we play 1 3 5 7 and so on up to eight numbers is that correct and if we win we reset and if we go again and if we don't get anything we will OK I don't know why it's so is that really what's going on so are you guys I'm on my mobile cell phone so I'm trying to get this to say what I'm trying to say but okay so we will go through that like that thanks.

Hi bikemotorman.
The way you described is Vaddis way.
This system is different.
Title: Re: AI~"Last 8 FLATBET"
Post by: Shogun on Jan 11, 01:15 PM 2019
Just ran this in RX.
It is not the same as Vaddis way.
Ignatus has put his spin on it  :)
It puts 1 unit on each number as they hit. But continues on a win.
Hence the nipple effect (advanced roulette term)
Its not that he plays all  8 numbers if none have won, for one bet.

example bet sequence:
28
3,28
28
3
2,3
2,3,21
2,3,21,35
2,3,9,21,31,35
2,3,9,16,21,31,34
2,3,9,11,16,21,31,35

so all these numbers were bet and we had 3 hits.
28 showed on the last spin but as you can see we were no longer on it.

next sequence first spin no bet.
number three arrives but our first bet is on the 28 from previous sequence then 3 and 28.
I actually think it maybe an error in code rather than done this way deliberately.



Title: Re: AI~"Last 8 FLATBET"
Post by: bikemotorman on Jan 11, 03:44 PM 2019
Quote from: Shogun on Jan 11, 12:55 PM 2019
Hi bikemotorman.
The way you described is Vaddis way.
This system is different.



SO HOW DO WE PLAY THIS METHOD?????????
Title: Re: AI~"Last 8 FLATBET"
Post by: Winner on Jan 11, 03:59 PM 2019
Quote from: bikemotorman on Jan 11, 03:44 PM 2019


SO HOW DO WE PLAY THIS METHOD?????????
You put your money on the table and it disappears.
Title: Re: AI~"Last 8 FLATBET"
Post by: bikemotorman on Jan 11, 07:22 PM 2019
Wow pretty cool that's just like the United States government you're putting money down and it disappears actually I've been playing this method a little bit and I think I've got it right I start with one the last spin say is one then I go to the next spin which state is too then I go to the next spin which is 3 then I go to the next spend which is 4 and I'm playing one two three four at one unit and we go to the next spin which is 5 then we go to next spend which is 6 and we go to the next spend which is seven and we go to the next spin which is AIDS so we're playing one two three four five six seven eight at one time actually if I'm playing a double zero wheel I played double zero and a double zero anyway or from playing a single 0 wheel I will play the zero also and oh yeah I like it I don't know the mathematics of this method but I really like it so far anybody else having good results with it I am.
Title: Re: AI~"Last 8 FLATBET"
Post by: Irish88 on Jan 11, 08:05 PM 2019
Quote from: bikemotorman on Jan 11, 07:22 PM 2019
Wow pretty cool that's just like the United States government you're putting money down and it disappears actually I've been playing this method a little bit and I think I've got it right I start with one the last spin say is one then I go to the next spin which state is too then I go to the next spin which is 3 then I go to the next spend which is 4 and I'm playing one two three four at one unit and we go to the next spin which is 5 then we go to next spend which is 6 and we go to the next spend which is seven and we go to the next spin which is AIDS so we're playing one two three four five six seven eight at one time actually if I'm playing a double zero wheel I played double zero and a double zero anyway or from playing a single 0 wheel I will play the zero also and oh yeah I like it I don't know the mathematics of this method but I really like it so far anybody else having good results with it I am.

When you get a hit, are you resetting back to 1 number?

As for the background on this method, I think it was inspired by these stats which I believe has been posted in the past by both Turbo and Notto. Notto 10 block is a winner in my opinion. This is a little different.

link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=9740.0


Seem more likely then not you will get a repeat within 8-10 spins.


Title: Re: AI~"Last 8 FLATBET"
Post by: bikemotorman on Jan 12, 09:02 AM 2019
Yes when I win I go back to the number I just had a win on then start at that single number.


Stuart
Title: Re: AI~"Last 8 FLATBET"
Post by: Shogun on Jan 12, 10:19 AM 2019
Quote from: bikemotorman on Jan 12, 09:02 AM 2019
Yes when I win I go back to the number I just had a win on then start at that single number.


Stuart


I also think it’s best for one win then reset.  Maybe look for other tweaks as this is definitely not a long term winner. Good for a bit of hit and run. 
Title: Re: AI~"Last 8 FLATBET"
Post by: Robbert on Mar 30, 05:08 AM 2019
Iggy, do u still code a system for 20 bucks?