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Title: Turbo, KTF and the trot; all are here, Vaddi?
Post by: nottophammer on Jan 20, 07:33 AM 2019
If you can't see it then play another game of chance, or join the general looking for wobbly wheels.

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Turbo colour coded for you. Lets jump to spin 27; #6 has hit again, so you could bet 6-1-24 find your staking , win #6 spin 29.
Now me i'd bet just #6, for a bt of curve fitting General. But i'd have to bet #1 as well, but win with #6 spin 35.

You've been told how non-hit come on average and this is showing the trot.

This will only be here untill the pic host goes again, then gone forever
Title: Re: Turbo, KTF and the trot; all are here, Vaddi?
Post by: Alan B on Jan 20, 03:42 PM 2019
I'm with you 100%, I'd bet 1, 6, 24
Title: Re: Turbo, KTF and the trot; all are here, Vaddi?
Post by: Steve on Jan 20, 06:08 PM 2019
Notto, are you saying that once a number hits that it has a better than random chance of hitting again? I dont want to appear "negative". It's just a simple question.
Title: Re: Turbo, KTF and the trot; all are here, Vaddi?
Post by: nottophammer on Jan 20, 07:04 PM 2019
Steve i look to 40 spins then up to 60 spins.
So these 60 spins give some results of what is happening with your 1/37
Take a look at the checkpoints in all the Non-hit time tables; even the one that has your best mate's 10'000 spins broke into cycles of 185 spins. The average is the same.

It's all i need to know that the average is the same from those time tables; the average is 15 non-hit happen in spins 11-40; more often than not.

The laughable LOTT show's in the time tables; and best of all is old Generals spins gives this as well.

And the above test shows the average for spins 1-10; the 9/10, its there, it happens.
Title: Re: Turbo, KTF and the trot; all are here, Vaddi?
Post by: nottophammer on Jan 20, 07:10 PM 2019
Steve at 12:15 am today Jackpot 247 starts. Now i tape the show and re-run the spins after 8 am.
Gzgzbee might tape the show; i don't know, but i'll post the green tester Bombus likes later today.

Who knows it might be 10/10 or the 9/10 might show.
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The opening 10 spins; the 10/10 has shown more than i'd like, but over all the 9/10 is the common result.
Title: Re: Turbo, KTF and the trot; all are here, Vaddi?
Post by: jono1167 on Jan 20, 08:12 PM 2019
I'm with you Notto. This forum offers some great information on a variety of systems... KTF is surely one of the best.

I'm still plugging away but no disasters to report. 

Cheers Notto
Title: Re: Turbo, KTF and the trot; all are here, Vaddi?
Post by: Steve on Jan 20, 08:27 PM 2019
But you're not understanding the averages come from the 1 in 37.

What you're saying is just like saying the first dozen will spin 1 in 3 times, and in X amount of spins it will repeat.

The math you dont appear to understand is this:

ON SPIN 1: There's a 1 in 37 chance a number will spin (this never changes). Say number 32 won.
ON SPIN 2: Number 2 won. There are now TWO unique numbers. There's a 2/37 chance the next spin will be a repeater.
ON SPIN 3: Number 12 won. There are now THREE unique numbers. There's a 3/37 chance the next spin will be a repeater.
ON SPIN 4: Number 32 won. That's the first repeater. It had and still has 1 in 37 odds of spinning next. NOTHING HAS CHANGED.

So the more spins we have, the more unique numbers we have, and the greater the chance of a repeater.

This is basic math and probability.

Your bet selection method is changing nothing. It just appears you aren't understanding the math.

Can you tell me what about the above I'm missing or not understanding? Where am I wrong?
Title: Re: Turbo, KTF and the trot; all are here, Vaddi?
Post by: The General on Jan 20, 11:24 PM 2019
What I think also dupes so many of the less experienced players is that many of these free mode sites have unlimited max betting.  Consequently the players can just keep increasing their bets (as they lose) until they finally hit and show a profit.  Other free mode plays will give you bonuses just for signing in which enables you to win money, even if you don't play! 


Right now I'm sure there are countless players (suckers) looking for "just the right progressions" to make their latest systems work.
Title: Re: Turbo, KTF and the trot; all are here, Vaddi?
Post by: Madi on Jan 20, 11:40 PM 2019
Are you on weed or meth? Seriously? From which angle you think that you are professional? You rarely win penny and try to show people cover story. Idiot
Title: Re: Turbo, KTF and the trot; all are here, Vaddi?
Post by: The General on Jan 20, 11:50 PM 2019
The law of the third doesn't really exist. Some VB friends of mine are actually responsible for much of the hyped nonsense behind it. They claimed that they were using "Phillip's Law of The Third" when they were arrested in the UK back in the early 80s. It was a cover story, nothing more. One of the guys claimed that he was a brilliant mathematician and that he'd invented it and had named it after himself. To this day he laughs about how people still get sucked into it after having read the news stories. People like Notto are merely some of the suckers that got sucked into the hype that has been passed down from person to person after all these years.

In reality the so called law of the third refers to the normal distribution of the numbers over a series of 37 or 38 spins. Over those spins some numbers will hit a few times or more, some twice, some once, and some not at all. The reason behind it is very simple. There are more ways for the numbers to hit in such a sequence than there are for all of the numbers to only hit once. Unfortunately you have no way of knowing which numbers will continue hitting and which numbers will suddenly stop hitting since the same number of pockets remain on the wheel from one spin to the next.

For the record, my favorite cover story is to tell gaming and others that I merely exploit regression to the mean and the law of large numbers. Again, it's just a cover story, but I suspect Notto will be picking it up in a few years as the news gets out there.
Title: Re: Turbo, KTF and the trot; all are here, Vaddi?
Post by: Madi on Jan 20, 11:51 PM 2019
Quote from: The General on Jan 20, 11:24 PM 2019


Right now I'm sure there are countless players (suckers) looking for "just the right progressions" to make their latest systems work.

So whats wrong? Did anyone play with your fathers money?

Who the hell are you to call people “sucker”.  Dont push . We heard you and understand you. Your job done. Go find broken wheel and earn .

No one will work for you. Go to casino and start collecting spin
Title: Re: Turbo, KTF and the trot; all are here, Vaddi?
Post by: Madi on Jan 20, 11:57 PM 2019
Quote from: The General on Jan 20, 11:50 PM 2019




For the record, my favorite cover story is to tell gaming and others that I merely exploit regression to the mean and the law of large numbers. Again, it's just a cover story, but I suspect Notto will be picking it up in a few years as the news gets out there.


Learn to earn first then think about cover story.
Title: Re: Turbo, KTF and the trot; all are here, Vaddi?
Post by: The General on Jan 21, 12:08 AM 2019
Quote from: Madi on Jan 20, 11:51 PM 2019
So whats wrong? Did anyone play with your fathers money?

Who the hell are you to call people “sucker”.  Dont push . We heard you and understand you. Your job done. Go find broken wheel and earn .

No one will work for you. Go to casino and start collecting spin

Actually I work with a few people from this forum.  One of them full time now. ;)
Title: Re: Turbo, KTF and the trot; all are here, Vaddi?
Post by: Steve on Jan 21, 12:08 AM 2019
Quote from: Madi on Jan 20, 11:40 PM 2019
Are you on weed or meth? Seriously? From which angle you think that you are professional? You rarely win penny and try to show people cover story. Idiot

Whether or not Caleb is a professional player is not a consideration for me. My professional opinion of him is based on his knowledge.

Based on what he posts..... he knows what he's talking about. He is correct, and I agree with almost everything he says. Compare that to typical members of any gambling forum, who make huge mistakes even with basic probability.

These are the types of members who take it personally when people highlight mistakes, or think the knowledgeable member is just being "negative".

Don't confuse truth with negativity. And dont confuse opinion with verifiable fact.
Title: Re: Turbo, KTF and the trot; all are here, Vaddi?
Post by: Madi on Jan 21, 01:10 AM 2019
We understand he is correct. Still people wants to learn in their way. No point to call people sucker , forumtard etc etc and keep insulting . We heard what he said, some will accept some will not.

If he wants some free worker he should open his thread , discuss what he knows and invite people. Not kicking people butt again and again.
Title: Re: Turbo, KTF and the trot; all are here, Vaddi?
Post by: Steve on Jan 21, 01:16 AM 2019
Madi, you don't appear to be considering when someone is misleading many people with complete BS, the more experienced members can and should alert people.

He should stay out of it if people want to remain ignorant, and waste time and money. But who wants that? The people he and i correct are running around spreading bullshit, and many people are eating it up. And thats when with professional advice. Now imagine if BS was allowed to reign without ANY opposition.
Title: Re: Turbo, KTF and the trot; all are here, Vaddi?
Post by: Firefox on Jan 21, 07:34 AM 2019
Isn't there some forum here where people can discuss mathematical based systems without anyone contradicting them, and they can live their dreams and fantasies in peace?

That seems a good idea, whereas in the general forum, it's all up for debate  :question:
Title: Re: Turbo, KTF and the trot; all are here, Vaddi?
Post by: Steve on Jan 21, 07:41 AM 2019
Yes, it's here:
link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?board=108.0
Title: Re: Turbo, KTF and the trot; all are here, Vaddi?
Post by: nottophammer on Jan 21, 07:52 AM 2019
So the 10/10 came and spin 11 is another non-hit; so the daily opening spins; the 1 repeat is late.
For spins 11-40; we expect to see another 15 non-hits, we see 13 came.
The average for 60 spins is 30 non-hit and 30 repeats; like BBB said. So with only 23 non-hits; we could see another 7 non-hit, you see 8 came.
The TROT is there; compare it to the time tables. Look at the Generals star burst time table; the averages are there.

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Turbo spin 38 +40

Over at G oof  F orum Eugene and DSSA perhaps the blue socks work better. As for the joker of the pack; Mr J; poor bloke still waiting for the train or a street to complete, that’s why there at G oof         F orum   folks.
DSSA a bucket of KFC waits for you.

Title: Re: Turbo, KTF and the trot; all are here, Vaddi?
Post by: nottophammer on Jan 21, 08:08 AM 2019
Eugene and DSSA

If you know how Turbo plays for repeat of hot number; spin 51, +435

Not that 1 pocket to0 far
Title: Re: Turbo, KTF and the trot; all are here, Vaddi?
Post by: Madi on Jan 21, 12:47 PM 2019
Quote from: Steve on Jan 21, 01:16 AM 2019
Madi, you don't appear to be considering when someone is misleading many people with complete BS, the more experienced members can and should alert people.

He should stay out of it if people want to remain ignorant, and waste time and money. But who wants that? The people he and i correct are running around spreading bullshit, and many people are eating it up. And thats when with professional advice. Now imagine if BS was allowed to reign without ANY opposition.

In that sense all the threads are useless and misleading isnt it? Whats  your say now.

You missed some point. Sucker , forumtard. Dont miss.

There is difference between correcting people and pushing people again and again to manipulate working in his favour.
Title: Re: Turbo, KTF and the trot; all are here, Vaddi?
Post by: Steve on Jan 21, 02:30 PM 2019
The name-calling is perhaps not constructive. But people need to be mature enough to look past that and see the facts. Like i keep saying, focus on the message.

Theres nothing wrong with the word suckers. Ignorance is what casinos rely on. Forumtards is a bit much though.

You need to understand the ignorance is on the same level as flat earthers. Even when irrefutable facts are in front of them, they just dont get it. With this level of ignorance, and when being polite about it doesnt work, a kick in the ass might have a better effect. It would push some people the wrong way, but again they need to grow up and look past name calling.

If someone criticized and called me names, id focus much more on whether the criticism  was justified, and if i needed to change something.

Yes, it is an unfortunate fact that most systems are useless. The threads are not useless - most are just another step to realization of what does and doesnt work. But when they are repetitive nonsense, ignoring basic probability, they go beyond normal learning and more into the area of blindness. It is not just system tinkering. Most people actually believe one bet selection method is better than another, when reality is random is random.

The worst part is not inaccuracy. We are learn in stages. The worst part is constantly ignoring clear logic and irrefutable verifiable fact, when the proof is right in front of them.
Title: Re: Turbo, KTF and the trot; all are here, Vaddi?
Post by: Mako on Jan 21, 02:56 PM 2019
As long as the system junkies are simply testing their methods in simulation, and not wasting money on actual wheels, (or buying said 'systems' from peddlers) then the whole "Oh, we're just trying to save you from yourselves...we have only the most noble of intentions, aren't we great people" justification for being belligerent and calling people "forumtards" goes out the window.

Caleb: You enjoy trolling. Nothing wrong with admitting it.  Yes it's looked down upon by most, but I definitely can see the value of a good troll in certain areas, and am certainly not above it myself.  :twisted:

But it's been years now, across multiple forums, the same cut and pasted replies, the same "oh my buddies invented LOTT as an excuse to cops" story (which as I've said before has nothing at all to do with whatever you want to call the phenomenon of 37 spins out, and the same # of unhits as repeats at the end of the cycle). 

That story is irrelevant to the discussion and again, has absolutely nothing to do with why LOTT persists today...the results are the reason it persists, how it happens over and over and over in every single 37 spin cycle.  Why every new Roulette player finds it, on their own, without ever hearing the story, how they see it form every...single...time....always...in...every...cycle.

It's the only predictable thing about the wheel actually, the lone case of "yup, that happens always" that occurs during a series of spins.

Now...whether we can exploit that fact financially, that consistent outcome for a positive expectation?  Unknown.  So far, NOPE.  Can't be done.

However, people like Rik and Ed are trying, which is fine, nothing wrong with it so long as they aren't selling systems.  Let them try, free from constant, and I mean constant, ridicule, insults, and worst of all, the same repetitive posts that have been posted for years now about "why it will never work".

So to sum up: We "forumtards" and "system junkies" and "insert-any-insult-and-condescending-prick-attitude-you-choose-here" have all heard everything you've ever said...and everything you're ever going to say. 

We got it.  Number of pockets, bad pay-out, yep, we get it.  Wrote it down, saved it on the PC, etched it in stone.  Got it.  All set.

You've done your duty, you've saved humanity from itself.  We salute you, thank you for your service in this area.  We've noted how nothing ever ever will work ever because the wheel is short a pocket and the payout is wrong. 

And I'm not being sarcastic, I personally do appreciate the information you've provided, the actual reasons why systems haven't performed over the hundreds of years the game has existed.  It's good to hear what we're up against.

But the rest of it, the constant shaming and shouting down of people who want attention, even yes the sociopathic narcissists, is unnecessary.  We don't need saving.  We can read.  We can understand the wheel is a pocket short, and the payout is wrong.  It's ok.  We're fine, because the smart ones don't ever play an actual dollar anywhere without verifying that the system or method is accurate and can create a positive return.

And if we do?  And we lose? That's ok too.  We'll live. 

Let the flat-earthers believe what they want...why do you care if they're not wasting actual money?  :)
Title: Re: Turbo, KTF and the trot; all are here, Vaddi?
Post by: Madi on Jan 21, 03:19 PM 2019
Steve
You need to understand that when people learn first , they all go through these nonsense. I did marti u did as well. Over time they fix them up. U didnt come to this position in one day . U took 20+ years. Let them spend that time if they dont listen , want to discover by themselves.

There are lots of reason people make system. Lets say one man got casino 200 km aways. Only available nearby is slot rng. He has dream and motivation. That keeps him alive.

Now a days exploiting wheel is not a viable option. There is not even 10 wheel in total in NSW
Title: Re: Turbo, KTF and the trot; all are here, Vaddi?
Post by: The General on Jan 21, 03:29 PM 2019
Quote from: Madi on Jan 21, 03:19 PM 2019
Steve
You need to understand that when people learn first , they all go through these nonsense. I did marti u did as well. Over time they fix them up. U didnt come to this position in one day . U took 20+ years. Let them spend that time if they dont listen , want to discover by themselves.

There are lots of reason people make system. Lets say one man got casino 200 km aways. Only available nearby is slot rng. He has dream and motivation. That keeps him alive.

Now a days exploiting wheel is not a viable option. There is not even 10 wheel in total in NSW

One of my favorite systems is the reverse Labroche.  The reason is because when it wins, it can win big.

If you don't have wheels then try the slots
Title: Re: Turbo, KTF and the trot; all are here, Vaddi?
Post by: Madi on Jan 21, 03:40 PM 2019
Quote from: The General on Jan 21, 03:29 PM 2019
One of my favorite systems is the reverse Labroche.  The reason is because when it wins, it can win big.

If you don't have wheels then try the slots

Sorry we got all well maintained casino. They spend millions for maintenance. No broken wheel. They got 100s of general or caleb to check the abnormalities.
Title: Re: Turbo, KTF and the trot; all are here, Vaddi?
Post by: Steve on Jan 21, 07:14 PM 2019
Quote from: Madi on Jan 21, 03:19 PM 2019Let them spend that time if they dont listen , want to discover by themselves.

The problem is when someone is constantly misleading others who arent quite educated or experienced enough to know better. It wastes their time. Yes, the follower needs to learn better. The opposite of someone blatantly misleading people (intentionally or not) is an asshole that says it like it is. It's the required balance.

Quote from: Madi on Jan 21, 03:19 PM 2019There are lots of reason people make system. Lets say one man got casino 200 km aways. Only available nearby is slot rng. He has dream and motivation. That keeps him alive.

Delusion keeps him alive? It isn't much of a life. Does this person want to be one of the blissfully ignorant sheep that make billionaires richer?

Understand I'm not saying not to develop systems. I'm saying ....

1. TRY SOMETHING NEW

2. UNDERSTAND BASIC PROBABILITY AND WHY MOST SYSTEMS FAIL

Title: Re: Turbo, KTF and the trot; all are here, Vaddi?
Post by: Steve on Jan 21, 07:28 PM 2019
Also understand people contact me daily explaining the system they're using. I had one guy last week saying his red/black system kept failing, and the reason was he thinks the casino is forcing the ball to avoid his bets - he even sent me video of the wheel in question, and I just saw normal ball behavior. He said he was desperate for money because of debt, and needed to make money quick or he could be jailed. He also has a young family.

He shouldn't even be looking at casinos as a way to pay debts. It's a bad motive and bad mindset for professional play. Such situations are not uncommon.

I feel sorry for these people although they make their own decisions. Not everyone is just looking to play for fun. There are some desperate people, and people playing for serious reasons.

When I see self-professed "gurus" misleading people, I think of the damage they are doing. It has nothing to do with what I do or sell. Really, I earn more than enough, from numerous sources, to not give a shit if someone doesnt like the idea of my technology. On those matters I only care that people understand I'm honest.

So when people like Caleb tell the truth about what does and doesnt work, even in a harsh way, it is far more beneficial than the self-professed gurus misleading people. Sure some people just play for fun and like to play with systems. But others both believe bullshit and bet real money that adversely affects real people's lives.

If anyone doesnt like to hear about probability and reality, then ignore it. Caleb is abiding by the rules here. what he does elsewhere is not my concern.

Yes he might annoy you with repetitive comments. But I've explained everyone's options, including asking him to stay off your thread (consider the no-trolling rules), or starting a thread in the system player area. I have put up with far greater issues. The annoyance of what someone says about probability is laughable if it really annoys anyone. You dont have to live with caleb or anyone who explains why a system wont work. Some people shouldnt be so sensitive.
Title: Re: Turbo, KTF and the trot; all are here, Vaddi?
Post by: Madi on Jan 21, 10:36 PM 2019
Quote from: Steve on Jan 21, 07:28 PM 2019
Also understand people contact me daily explaining the system they're using. I had one guy last week saying his red/black system kept failing, and the reason was he thinks the casino is forcing the ball to avoid his bets - he even sent me video of the wheel in question, and I just saw normal ball behavior. He said he was desperate for money because of debt, and needed to make money quick or he could be jailed. He also has a young family.

He shouldn't even be looking at casinos as a way to pay debts. It's a bad motive and bad mindset for professional play. Such situations are not uncommon.

I feel sorry for these people although they make their own decisions. Not everyone is just looking to play for fun. There are some desperate people, and people playing for serious reasons.

When I see self-professed "gurus" misleading people, I think of the damage they are doing. It has nothing to do with what I do or sell. Really, I earn more than enough, from numerous sources, to not give a shit if someone doesnt like the idea of my technology. On those matters I only care that people understand I'm honest.

So when people like Caleb tell the truth about what does and doesnt work, even in a harsh way, it is far more beneficial than the self-professed gurus misleading people. Sure some people just play for fun and like to play with systems. But others both believe bullshit and bet real money that adversely affects real people's lives.

If anyone doesnt like to hear about probability and reality, then ignore it. Caleb is abiding by the rules here. what he does elsewhere is not my concern.

Yes he might annoy you with repetitive comments. But I've explained everyone's options, including asking him to stay off your thread (consider the no-trolling rules), or starting a thread in the system player area. I have put up with far greater issues. The annoyance of what someone says about probability is laughable if it really annoys anyone. You dont have to live with caleb or anyone who explains why a system wont work. Some people shouldnt be so sensitive.

Steve

Help that guy. Take some money from him as investing. Use that money to you ur 120% edge compi. Its preety sure you win. Keep half of the winning . Give him back half with capital. Would be great help
Title: Re: Turbo, KTF and the trot; all are here, Vaddi?
Post by: Steve on Jan 21, 11:51 PM 2019
We don't need bankroll.

Even if we did, I wouldn't want to take investor funds. It complicates the situation.
Title: Re: Turbo, KTF and the trot; all are here, Vaddi?
Post by: nottophammer on Jan 23, 05:21 PM 2019
Unlike the general I don’t have to change my socks or underwear to win; you just watch the trot, the 1-3-5-7-30 for repeats.
So you see; the average for repeat in spins 1-10 is 1 repeat. Now here you can win 100 units like Nimo says. After spin 2; bet all non-hit; do this for 4 spins, using unit of 1, you’ll be +10 or like Nimo +100. Here even the general’s star burst 10000 spins gives this average.
You see #22 is hot as its met expectation; it’s repeated.
So now in spins 11-20; you expect 3 repeats, so look to the non-hit, the average here is 7,+2 but shouldn’t it be 5,+0?
You can see the perfect 5 has happened. So as 5 repeats have hit; not worried about; R1’s or R2’s; just where there’s a repeat. So you should have 1+3; 4 repeats, but we see there are 6, in total, so repeats are ahead of themselves.
Now spins 21-30; we should have 9 repeats in total. By spin 26, we’re at 8 repeats, so you expect 1 more repeat and there it is, 9 #’s have repeated. General; Turbo and Eddy would have made a killing. So we carry on betting the non-hit and by spin 30 it’s 11,+1; as we should have only 5 repeats here, but the repeats were already in front in spins 11-20 (6 had hit). So as we expect 15 non-hits, should they not hit as 5-5-5; but the usual is 1-3-5-7, so 9 repeat for spins 11-30. We can see over the 30 spins there are 10 #’s that have repeated.
Trot looks like any other; with the average to hit in 2 spins up to the 19th non-hit.

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I'm not using +1/-1 here.

So we need 4 more non-hits in 10 spins; for the general I’ll change my socks, LOL.
Now I’ve see 17 non-hit take 17 spins; but they have an average to hit in 3 spins. Remember the game is all square at this point.

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So with casino money, better now to watch don’t try and get clever, guessing if it’s going to be a non-hit or repeat, just watch the trot, watch how the repeats are hitting, the usual in spins 31-40; it shows as 7 repeats can hit; we only need 4 more non-hit for the average of 15 non-hit in spins 11-40.

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Title: Re: Turbo, KTF and the trot; all are here, Vaddi?
Post by: nottophammer on Jan 23, 06:06 PM 2019
So with just watching for the repeats to get heavy, we are missing non-hit; that hit fast.

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The game of 40 spins ends 24 non-hits; so the 15 hit in spins 11-40; remember the LOTT is a hoax invented by the general and his mates yeah okay.
Now there’s 20 spins left; the average is 30 non-hit by spin 60, giving a 50/50 game.

How do you watch these 20 spins? Remember after the 26th non-hit they average to hit in 4 spins. So if you divide the 20 spins by the amount of non-hit to get to 30 non-hits. Here we have 3.3 spins. I’d watch to see if miss for 3 spins, then commence betting for the remaining non-hit too hit. Like the 25th win. They come fast but you if you give those 3 non-hits the 3.3 spins should the 27th not have hit on spin 50. Now you see I waited spins 51-52-53 and then commenced betting win. Again their fast and 31 non-hits have hit over the 60 spins.

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You can see an easy trot.

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Is Turbo not on about this after 37 spins there’s 13 non-hit left and old wobbly wheels can’t accept this. Did we not see 7 of the remaining 13 hit; oh yeah its sleepers and one pocket to0 many
Title: Re: Turbo, KTF and the trot; all are here, Vaddi?
Post by: nottophammer on Jan 23, 06:10 PM 2019
Here are the #'s
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Title: Re: Turbo, KTF and the trot; all are here, Vaddi?
Post by: nichedelico on Jan 23, 06:14 PM 2019
Thank you Notto, because of the leanguage (i'm italian, my english is good?maybe? but sometime have trobules), i'm a little bit confuse, i think i understood a bit, but can you explain a more schematic way to play and read? And TROT what it's mean ? If it's not a problem for you. Thank you
Nico
Title: Re: Turbo, KTF and the trot; all are here, Vaddi?
Post by: nottophammer on Jan 23, 06:24 PM 2019
Nicho
Tomorrow.

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I nearly posted this earlier for Let me win; but i was saving it for the general after one of his stupid Gifs.
So popped in to Corals; no sheet so have to use the slip.

26 spins,+204 units, by using the 1-3-5-7-30 average.

To read the trot is not hard, and remember this is a proper RNG, designed for Corals. But after collecting 1000's of spins the averages are the same as the posted time tables.

6 repeats by spin 20 as the repeats came fast i parlayed the wins on 16th and 17th non-hits and out the door.