If I give you a system with 20 numbers and it can have max 7 or 8 loses in a row.
Will you take it and start making money ? Or you will ignore it ?
Man, I'll take it straight up any day.
If I can make 10c more at the end of each month, it's 10c more that I didn't have.
People try and use gambling to become rich over night = FAIL
I like to gamble to have some extra cash for some nice to haves.
Anyway, - short answer. I'll gladly test your system :thumbsup:
Quote from: Roulettebeater on Jan 25, 03:23 AM 2019If I give you a system with 20 numbers and it can have max 7 or 8 loses in a row.
So you've solved Vaddi
On the information supplied and given those two choices, I will ignore it.
Here's a simple scenario & question for you that's well within you parameters.... bet 7 times and lose, then bet 1 time and win, then bet 8 times and lose, then bet 2 times and win, then bet 7 times and lose, then bet 1 time and win, then bet 6 times and lose, then bet 1 time and win, then bet 8 times and lose, then bet 1 time and win, then bet 7 times and lose.
Are we looking good here with your 20 number giveaway system?
Never ignore something in life
Quote from: nichedelico on Jan 25, 06:12 AM 2019
Never ignore something in life
"I'd piss on a spark plug if I thought it'd do any good!"...
Agree niche, anything is worth testing...even Caleb's colored socks system. >:D
Quote from: Mako on Jan 25, 01:58 PM 2019
"I'd piss on a spark plug if I thought it'd do any good!"...
Agree niche, anything is worth testing...even Caleb's colored socks system. >:D
That really made me laugh lol
So you mean it’s worth believing in it ?
Are 8 max loss in row too much ?
Quote from: Taotie on Jan 25, 03:58 AM 2019
On the information supplied and given those two choices, I will ignore it.
Here's a simple scenario & question for you that's well within you parameters.... bet 7 times and lose, then bet 1 time and win, then bet 8 times and lose, then bet 2 times and win, then bet 7 times and lose, then bet 1 time and win, then bet 6 times and lose, then bet 1 time and win, then bet 8 times and lose, then bet 1 time and win, then bet 7 times and lose.
Are we looking good here with your 20 number giveaway system?
Ohhh wow 20 numbers are too much !
regarding this thoughts, I would share with you something I've noticed last days: If one split the wheel in 3 sectors and start bet for 5 times the first sector spun, I've notice that very very often :xd: that sector repeat before the 6th spins. Restarting the game one should exploit this or not?
If this is a virtual limit, this is a very good strategy.
Bet selection is very complicated? I mean playability on the wheel.
Quote from: Roulettebeater on Jan 25, 03:23 AM 2019
If I give you a system with 20 numbers and it can have max 7 or 8 loses in a row.
Will you take it and start making money ? Or you will ignore it ?
Roulettebeater do you have some code or excelsheet to evaluate this strategy? How did you find that 7 or 8 in a row max it loose ?
Quote from: ozon on Jan 25, 04:13 PM 2019
If this is a virtual limit, this is a very good strategy.
Bet selection is very complicated? I mean playability on the wheel.
What do you mean with virtual limit ?
Can you plz elaborate ?
Quote from: Gitano on Jan 25, 04:24 PM 2019
Roulettebeater do you have some code or excelsheet to evaluate this strategy? How did you find that 7 or 8 in a row max it loose ?
I have no code, but the idea is in my head
A friend who lives in the US and visits casino everyday told me his idea
RB,
Consecutive max losses in a row is not a very helpful indicator.
Knowing the average loss / win ratio would be a better choice to verify the effectiveness of a system.
You can calculate this easily.
Quote from: Roulettebeater on Jan 26, 05:33 AM 2019
I have no code, but the idea is in my head
A friend who lives in the US and visits casino everyday told me his idea
Impressive that he’s doing it on a 00 wheel, would be interested just for that reason alone. Keep working on it RB. :thumbsup:
Quote from: Mako on Jan 26, 06:00 AM 2019
Impressive that he’s doing it on a 00 wheel, would be interested just for that reason alone. Keep working on it RB. :thumbsup:
Yes that too
So on eueropean wheel it will perform even better
But you want to share this idea with us Roulettebeater? Maybe someone can make a code, i can test with Rx but i don't know how to coding.
What realy matter is the LW registry and MM , if many Ls and only one W not good.
Marty for 20 numbers and 9 steps.....no way.
To be winner need few Ws in row and good MM.
Bad
WLLLWLLLLLLLLWLWLLLLWWLLLLLLW
Good
WLLWWLLLLLLWWLLLLWWWWLLLWWW
even in this case , i would stop at one L
and start to bet after virtual W, or bet after 4 virt Ls.
Progression if any ,then better positive and hope that
hit few Ws in row.
I typically don't like to play 18-20 numbers but there are times on live American Wheels where it's hitting in one dominant 18-20 number section. The American Wheel is set up in a way where you can take advantage of this when the conditions are right. If you look at the American Wheel and start at 16 on the wheel and go right till you get to number 34, 19 numbers total. 16 of the numbers fall in columns A and B. The only 3 numbers that don't are 0,9, and 30.
link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=4505.0
Interesting topic I am often reminded about. I myself think there is something to this. I saw a guy win about 30,000 US dollars playing this way in about an hour.
link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4505.0;attach=5268
Quote from: Irish88 on Jan 26, 11:03 AM 2019
I typically don't like to play 18-20 numbers but there are times on live American Wheels where it's hitting in one dominant 18-20 number section. The American Wheel is set up in a way where you can take advantage of this when the conditions are right. If you look at the American Wheel and start at 16 on the wheel and go right till you get to number 34, 19 numbers total. 16 of the numbers fall in columns A and B. The only 3 numbers that don't are 0,9, and 30.
link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=4505.0
Interesting topic I am often reminded about. I myself think there is something to this. I saw a guy win about 30,000 US dollars playing this way in about an hour.
link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4505.0;attach=5268
That's funny you mention that thread, it's one that I always think of late at night, wondering how it could be the foundation of a great method of play if only it had the attention from some of the sharper minds that other systems get.
I think it's the 00 wheel itself, most of the world (and thus our forum members) don't care about investigating a system that's exclusive to it alone and doesn't apply to the single zero wheel.
Shame though, totally agree with you, there's something to it...
Quote from: Irish88 on Jan 26, 11:03 AM 2019
I typically don't like to play 18-20 numbers but there are times on live American Wheels where it's hitting in one dominant 18-20 number section. The American Wheel is set up in a way where you can take advantage of this when the conditions are right. If you look at the American Wheel and start at 16 on the wheel and go right till you get to number 34, 19 numbers total. 16 of the numbers fall in columns A and B. The only 3 numbers that don't are 0,9, and 30.
link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=4505.0
Interesting topic I am often reminded about. I myself think there is something to this. I saw a guy win about 30,000 US dollars playing this way in about an hour.
link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4505.0;attach=5268
Why don't you just memorize the wheel and bet sections, rather than betting a washed out section of the wheel in the form of a column bet? Memorizing the wheel will take you no more than 30 minutes or so.
Ok guys, I will give you the system
I need someone who codes this and test it.
You bet one dozen and one column based on the last number:
1- if last number belongs to the first dozen and is red : you bet first dozen and first column ( first column has more red that blacks).
2- if last number belongs to the second dozen and is black :
You bet second dozen and second column( second column has more blacks than red)
And so on, fact is you gonna never bet third column, if zero comes you cover 0 and follow the same rule however this time you refer to the previous number ( last number before 0)
Code it and show your result here
Quote from: The General on Jan 26, 11:07 PM 2019
Why don't you just memorize the wheel and bet sections, rather than betting a washed out section of the wheel in the form of a column bet? Memorizing the wheel will take you no more than 30 minutes or so.
I do have the wheel memorized. I don't play the columns. I play sections of the wheel. That is really the only way I play. I was just pointing out that the American wheel is set up in an usual way compared to the Euro wheel.
Thanks for sharing Roulettebeater, type of progression?
But this method probably does not change the probability, but the distribution of winning hits.
I mean, playing a flat bet, we will not have an edge.
But if we set up a distribution and see that it's really max losing sequence, let's say 8 bets.
We can develop strategies based on this virtual limit.
If someone programs in EXCEL, he can make a sheet, with this bet selection, it should not be difficult, showing winning or losing trigger,
I can test manually, as it will look, against RX rng spins.
The Excel tracker will help me with this situation.
Quote from: Roulettebeater on Jan 27, 03:45 AM 2019
Ok guys, I will give you the system
I need someone who codes this and test it.
You bet one dozen and one column based on the last number:
1- if last number belongs to the first dozen and is red : you bet first dozen and first column ( first column has more red that blacks).
2- if last number belongs to the second dozen and is black :
You bet second dozen and second column( second column has more blacks than red)
And so on, fact is you gonna never bet third column, if zero comes you cover 0 and follow the same rule however this time you refer to the previous number ( last number before 0)
Code it and show your result here
Ok, so how does this guarantee a max of 8 losses?
Quote from: Taotie on Jan 28, 06:56 PM 2019
Ok, so how does this guarantee a max of 8 losses?
I would say there is no guarantee, maybe this is the case in his tests
I had a 24 number method that had a max loss of 4 in a row, for days and days i thought this is it, then one day, wiped me out
american wheel columns are clustered
rumor has it an older man only played the columns, for years successfully
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Jan 28, 07:03 PM 2019
american wheel columns are clustered
rumor has it an older man only played the columns, for years successfully
Ghost
I don’t like calling you ghost but this time is ok !
Maybe the guy you mean is my friend, do you know in which state was he ?
Quote from: Taotie on Jan 28, 06:56 PM 2019
Ok, so how does this guarantee a max of 8 losses?
Program the logic in whatever programming language you wish and you will see
Quote from: nichedelico on Jan 28, 07:58 AM 2019
Thanks for sharing Roulettebeater, type of progression?
Actually the best way to play it to wait for a trigger
Quote from: Roulettebeater on Jan 29, 03:34 AM 2019Actually the best way to play it to wait for a trigger
Don't get on to triggers, you'll get Saint Steve and the General after you for telling lies
I do not want to destroy fun.
I played the simplest possible method, waiting for 5 lossing triggers and then 4 step progresion, I was waiting for the trigger and played the next spin only, RX rng, 9 losses in the row in the first 400 spins.
Quote from: ozon on Jan 29, 05:18 AM 2019
I do not want to destroy fun.
I played the simplest possible method, waiting for 5 lossing triggers and then 4 step progresion, I was waiting for the trigger and played the next spin only, RX rng, 9 losses in the row in the first 400 spins.
Good start to testing, it doesn't matter if something wins or loses, only that we disclose how it went. :thumbsup:
The problem I always run into when I've looked at 00-wheel cluster-type bets is that we don't have actual consecutive spin data in bulk to properly test with.
We can't really use RX RNG, or any other RNG, because the hypothesis of the bet is that it takes advantage of the unique physical layout of the numbers on the 00 wheel as they relate to columns...and we don't have large quantities of 00-wheel spin results from single wheels, so we can't truly simulate an actual play session in that way.
I don't know how you'd get around it aside from actual playing, but actual playing is a fool's errand because it would take months, if not years, to get to say 10,000 spins worth of results...and even that figure isn't enough to validate a theory.
Quote from: Roulettebeater on Jan 27, 03:45 AM 2019
Code it and show your result here
Good or bad?
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Quote from: Bigbroben on Jan 29, 02:38 PM 2019
Good or bad?
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flat bet?
Yes. From what I understood of RBs explanations. Bet same dozen, column 3 (3 6 9 12 ...) if red and column 2 if black. Is that right, RB?
Excel random here, think what you will.
Quote from: Bigbroben on Jan 29, 08:22 PM 2019
Yes. From what I understood of RBs explanations. Bet same dozen, column 3 (3 6 9 12 ...) if red and column 2 if black. Is that right, RB?
Excel random here, think what you will.
Yes that it.
How it went ?
RB,
have a look at this and tell me if it corresponds to what you described.
Thanks.
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