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Title: Not hard
Post by: nottophammer on Feb 06, 08:48 AM 2019
Just started with the 1st # spun; 3rd dozen.

Did a turbo; 3 cycles. 1000 BR and timer at 40 seconds. MPR 33 seconds.
1st cycle just added a unit on any # that landed in 3rd dozen. If any hit just added a unit.
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Now decreased all #'s in 3rd dozen by 1 unit. He said some will come back.
Any # landed in 3rd dozen, again placed a single unit.
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Again decreased all in 3rd dozen by 1 unit.

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Looks like the 1st # being in 3rd dozen was a bit of luck.
Title: Re: Not hard
Post by: Irish88 on Feb 06, 08:59 AM 2019
Interesting Notto,

Just to be clear, you were only betting on numbers that appeared in the 3rd dozen?
Title: Re: Not hard
Post by: Irish88 on Feb 06, 09:04 AM 2019
Just did 35 spins on RS just focusing on the first dozen. +87 units.
Title: Re: Not hard
Post by: nottophammer on Feb 06, 09:32 AM 2019
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#29 so just bet the 3rd dozen used 1-5-25; only got to unit of 5 but nice profit
Title: Re: Not hard
Post by: buffalowizard on Feb 06, 09:45 AM 2019
So choose a random dozen and start backing each new number that hits in that dozen ?
What is with the 1,5,25? Is that a progression? On single numbers ? Sorry, trying to grasp it.
Title: Re: Not hard
Post by: Irish88 on Feb 06, 10:00 AM 2019
Quote from: buffalowizard on Feb 06, 09:45 AM 2019
So choose a random dozen and start backing each new number that hits in that dozen ?
What is with the 1,5,25? Is that a progression? On single numbers ? Sorry, trying to grasp it.

Yes BW, that is how I  interpreted what Notto was doing. Just focus on 1 dozen. A number hits in that dozen, place 1 unit on that number. Bet all numbers that appear in that dozen. Notto was using 1-5-25 progression on the individual number that hits. Say 7 hit twice you would now put 25 on it.
Title: Re: Not hard
Post by: buffalowizard on Feb 06, 11:27 AM 2019
Quote from: Irish88 on Feb 06, 10:00 AM 2019
Yes BW, that is how I  interpreted what Notto was doing. Just focus on 1 dozen. A number hits in that dozen, place 1 unit on that number. Bet all numbers that appear in that dozen. Notto was using 1-5-25 progression on the individual number that hits. Say 7 hit twice you would now put 25 on it.

Got it, thanks mate
Title: Re: Not hard
Post by: buffalowizard on Feb 06, 11:43 AM 2019
Will hand test this. Just had a quick look, 8 diff dozen 3s came up, then slept for a while but the hits then started to rack up.
At what point do you start dropping numbers, when they've hit 3 times ?
Title: Re: Not hard
Post by: Person S on Feb 06, 12:47 PM 2019

I tried a similar idea.
Here she is .
We need Ike's tracker, as soon as there are repetitions in two dozen, we start betting on the rest of the dozen, until a repeat happens in it ...
I had good results, but sometimes I needed a progression of it, I could not find ...
Title: Re: Not hard
Post by: nottophammer on Feb 06, 01:43 PM 2019
Quote from: buffalowizard on Feb 06, 11:43 AM 2019
Will hand test this. Just had a quick look, 8 diff dozen 3s came up, then slept for a while but the hits then started to rack up.
At what point do you start dropping numbers, when they've hit 3 times ?

Buff the best way to bet this is; too bet the groups. The groups are 1 hit’s; R1’s and R2’s. If the table limit is big carry on betting the groups, look at the bank roll to see if the prog: is to aggressive and adjust the units.
Aren’t we told every # hits once in 37 spins? But then we know of the made up phenomenon LOTT.
So you could bet the 1 hit’s; but you’d need to drop some.
Title: Re: Not hard
Post by: buffalowizard on Feb 06, 02:01 PM 2019
Quote from: nottophammer on Feb 06, 01:43 PM 2019
Buff the best way to bet this is; too bet the groups. The groups are 1 hit’s; R1’s and R2’s. If the table limit is big carry on betting the groups, look at the bank roll to see if the prog: is to aggressive and adjust the units.
Aren’t we told every # hits once in 37 spins? But then we know of the made up phenomenon LOTT.
So you could bet the 1 hit’s; but you’d need to drop some.
Yeah I see how it is a matter of adjusting according to the way everything is panning out. This can be a personal approach but I believe the fundamentals are strong with this one, so thanks for posting.
Title: Re: Not hard
Post by: nottophammer on Feb 06, 02:18 PM 2019
Buff when to drop numbers?
Turbs never dropped the right hint for this. But he did say some will go, but some will come back.
So i use 4 numbers.

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You can see the 1-5-25 ? is it 50

You can see the last bet is 4; 1x-  3; R1's and 2; R2's, #34 lands and win with 5 unit end +270
Title: Re: Not hard
Post by: nottophammer on Feb 06, 03:09 PM 2019
Buff; try these

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Title: Re: Not hard
Post by: buffalowizard on Feb 06, 03:18 PM 2019
Quote from: nottophammer on Feb 06, 03:09 PM 2019
Buff; try these

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What am I looking at? A session you already did? ended +293 by the looks of it
Title: Re: Not hard
Post by: buffalowizard on Feb 06, 03:39 PM 2019
Here are some Wiesbaden numbers from today. This is if you just keep continuing to add numbers in the dozen. Next I'll do this same session with just stopping on 4 like Notto said, dropping the ones that hit 3 times and then adding the next


36                               BET 36
       36               WIN, BET 36
20                          
20                          
17                          
29                          BET 36,29
       12             
28                          BET 36,29,28
   0                      
       36              WIN BET 36,29,28
       23       
35                          BET 35,36,29,28
       27               BET 35,36,29,28,27
4       
       30               BET 35,36,29,28,27,30
       16
       27              WIN
       7
       27              WIN
       5
17       
       36              WIN (DROP 36 OFF) BET 35,29,28,27,30
       21
26                         BET 35,26,29,28,27,30
       16
       16
       25              BET 35,26,29,28,27,30,25
   0   
17       
2       
24       
       23
29                         WIN
       32             BET 35,26,29,28,27,30,25,32
8       
       25              WIN
       19
       14
4       
--   --   --
   0   
35                        WIN
29                        WIN
11       
22       
       27            WIN  (DROP 27 OFF) BET 35,26,29,28,30,25,32
28                        WIN
   0   
4       
10       
26                       WIN
       7
13       
2       
4       
       1
       16
       25          WIN
35                     WIN
24       
15       
       12
29                     WIN  (DROP 29 OFF) BET 35,26,28,30,25,32
33                     BET 35,26,28,30,25,32,33
15       
--   --   --
33                     WIN
       1
11       
11       
13       
22       
31                     BET 31,35,26,28,30,25,32,33
       1
29                    
       9
8       
       25          WIN  (DROP 25 OFF) BET 31,35,26,28,30,32,33
       23
       27
       23
15       
       19
--   --   --
26                     WIN
6       
20       
   0   
       21
28                     WIN
2       
       5
4       
       19
6       
       18
       34       BET 31,34,35,26,28,30,32,33
33                  
       16
       32       WIN
Title: Re: Not hard
Post by: buffalowizard on Feb 06, 03:43 PM 2019
Probably doing this wrong, I havent added progressions as it's personal preference, but here is the one where I stuck to just 4 in a dozen.


36                           BET 36
       36           WIN 36
20        
20       
17       
29                      BET 29,36
       12
28                      BET 28,29,36
   0   
       36          WIN
       23
35                     BET 28,29,35,36
       27
4       
       30
       16
       27
       7
       27
       5
17       
       36           WIN
       21
26       
       16
       16
       25
   0   
17       
2       
24       
       23
29                    WIN
       32
8       
       25
       19
       14
4       
--   --   --
   0   
35                   WIN
29                   WIN
11       
22       
       27
28                   WIN
   0   
4       
10       
26       
       7
13       
2       
4       
       1
       16
       25
35                  WIN
24       
15       
       12
29                  WIN (DROP 29 OFF) BET 28,35,36
33                  BET 33,36,28,35
15       
--   --   --
33                  WIN
       1
11       
11       
13       
22       
31       
       1
29       
       9
8       
       25
       23
       27
       23
15       
       19
--   --   --
26       
6       
20       
   0   
       21
28                 WIN
2       
       5
4       
       19
6       
       18
       34
33                 WIN
       16
       32
Title: Re: Not hard
Post by: nottophammer on Feb 06, 07:45 PM 2019
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Buff; think there are enough winnings, so stop.
If you have to go on, next bet is 4; 1x’s â€" 2; R1’s â€" 1; R2 and 1; R3
Now your spins show #21 lands next. But let’s say #29 landed instead; it would bring an old number back, one that’s been dropped, making the next bet be still 4; 1x’s but now 3; R1’s â€" 1; R2 and 1; R3.
But with 784 profit I’d reset

For the general; i loved doing this piece of work. A number has to hit once to be able to hit twice; you know the rest, Goodnight.
Title: Re: Not hard
Post by: buffalowizard on Feb 07, 08:32 AM 2019
Quote from: nottophammer on Feb 06, 07:45 PM 2019
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Buff; think there are enough winnings, so stop.
If you have to go on, next bet is 4; 1x’s â€" 2; R1’s â€" 1; R2 and 1; R3
Now your spins show #21 lands next. But let’s say #29 landed instead; it would bring an old number back, one that’s been dropped, making the next bet be still 4; 1x’s but now 3; R1’s â€" 1; R2 and 1; R3.
But with 784 profit I’d reset

For the general; i loved doing this piece of work. A number has to hit once to be able to hit twice; you know the rest, Goodnight.
Thanks Notto. Yes I would've stopped on profit. Just couldn't work out the profits/losses. But you think sticking to 4 max is the best way for this?
Title: Re: Not hard
Post by: nottophammer on Feb 07, 08:44 AM 2019
Buff it's a floating 4 #'s for each group; 1x-R1-R2; you could go to say R8.

Who's to say not use last 6 in each group, i just chose 4. But what i like is the dropped comeback, like Turbs said, so you be on some, not all.

Buff why do you need to test for infinite spins; when you can win in 60 spins.
Title: Re: Not hard
Post by: buffalowizard on Feb 07, 08:48 AM 2019
Quote from: nottophammer on Feb 07, 08:44 AM 2019
Buff it's a floating 4 #'s for each group; 1x-R1-R2; you could go to say R8.

Who's to say not use last 6 in each group, i just chose 4. But what i like is the dropped comeback, like Turbs said, so you be on some, not all.

Buff why do you need to test for infinite spins; when you can win in 60 spins.
Cos I wasn't working out the win amounts. Heck with a decent unit size, I'd quit at +10
Title: Re: Not hard
Post by: nottophammer on Feb 07, 08:49 AM 2019
Here are J247 spins for today.
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So KTF made the 50 units, but you don’t have to use the 50 unit win target, you could take a lower win.

But what of the opening post.
I wouldn’t do this way like Turbo posted in an old topic. Was it 12 unique in X spins or something like that; where he said he likes to sit in his favourite seat, by the wheel and showed how he bet repeat in 1st dozen.
No better to bet for repeats like posted in riddles in various posts, even on G oof F orum .
You know the favourite quote the general always goes on about. A number has to hit once to be able to hit twice etc. etc.
So the j247 #’s today, +513 using the floating 4 in each group

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Title: Re: Not hard
Post by: nottophammer on Feb 07, 08:53 AM 2019
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Look at the winning #'s, whats going to hit in two more spins, it will have a 25 unit chip on. look further to the horizon #33
Title: Re: Not hard
Post by: nottophammer on Feb 07, 09:11 AM 2019
Let's look at that winning #31; it 1st showed at spin 2, no win, but now we give it a unit. Its next appearence is spin 15, again no win but it has now come back to the betting, it now has a 5unit chip and wins at spin 25, there's profit about 16 units, but now you up the unit to 25 and win on spin 31, it's voodoo.

Follow the #15 it wins at spin 24, and it's going to win on spin 33

Forget old general and his piss take about time machines, he's looking for wobbly wheels, sucker
Title: Re: Not hard
Post by: nottophammer on Feb 07, 09:58 AM 2019
See numbers have been dropped but they comeback
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29 of the 37 have hit, what's the ratio in most cases 30/60; 30 non-hit in 60 spins. Take it, it just happens, no time machine. Just data from those time tables that include the generals star burst spins.

You can hear them coming

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Title: Re: Not hard
Post by: nottophammer on Feb 08, 05:01 PM 2019
See what Clarkson is doing, Sshhhh

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Title: Re: Not hard
Post by: nottophammer on Feb 08, 05:12 PM 2019
    This to me explains Turbo's horse racing analogy perfectly. For example:

        The finish line is a number hitting 6 times
        We know the time frame in which it will happen (MAX 111 spins)
        As we move closer to that point, we can be more and more confident that it's going to happen soon (positive progression)
        Bet selection = numbers which have already hit 5 times (they are near the finish line)

    Essentially, taking a known future event (in a known time frame) and narrowing down the bet selection to only the numbers that can fulfill that event.

From Tesla on G oof  Forum
     

Title: Re: Not hard
Post by: Mako on Feb 08, 06:05 PM 2019
Quote from: nottophammer on Feb 08, 05:12 PM 2019
    This to me explains Turbo's horse racing analogy perfectly. For example:

        The finish line is a number hitting 6 times
        We know the time frame in which it will happen (MAX 111 spins)
        As we move closer to that point, we can be more and more confident that it's going to happen soon (positive progression)
        Bet selection = numbers which have already hit 5 times (they are near the finish line)

    Essentially, taking a known future event (in a known time frame) and narrowing down the bet selection to only the numbers that can fulfill that event.

From Tesla on G oof  Forum
   

I recall a forum member named Probasah talking about that here.

Basically after testing 1M RNG spins himself and looking at the data, he felt the grail was simply betting 4s into the first 5, or 5s into the first 6, via flatbetting, with a strategy that he didn't disclose.  He didn't say it specifically, it was implied basically.

And he didn't give any details about how to play, when to engage (if it's late or behind), if every session wins or just the majority win, etc.

He did say he couldn't use any progression due to risk, it was flatbetting only. 

Title: Re: Not hard
Post by: nottophammer on Feb 08, 06:59 PM 2019
Mako how many repeat in 20 spins? Thats non-hit dealt with.

So why would he touch non-hit, next why bet hit once. Now R1's what would you stake and how many? will there be many R2 by 37th spin?
The second cycle; perhaps he would lower stakes with 74 spins to come. Now as R1's go R2, what stakes would you apply. Remember by 60th spin 30 non-hit are likely too have appeared and give 30 repeats, the question is by the end of the 2nd cycle are we starting to see the horse analogy appear. Are the favorite's appearing.
This 3rd cycle are you worrying about 1-hits or 2-hits, but maybe the 3hit are becoming 4 hit and with a strong field of contenders showing and the cycle nearing completion, can the prog: get aggressive, perhaps 4 hit are say 3 or 4 in total

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Title: Re: Not hard
Post by: nottophammer on Feb 09, 10:52 AM 2019
Quote from: nottophammer on Feb 08, 05:12 PM 2019
    This to me explains Turbo's horse racing analogy perfectly. For example:

        The finish line is a number hitting 6 times
        We know the time frame in which it will happen (MAX 111 spins)
        As we move closer to that point, we can be more and more confident that it's going to happen soon (positive progression)
        Bet selection = numbers which have already hit 5 times (they are near the finish line)

    Essentially, taking a known future event (in a known time frame) and narrowing down the bet selection to only the numbers that can fulfill that event.

From Tesla on G oof  Forum
   
Quote from: Mako on Feb 08, 06:05 PM 2019
I recall a forum member named Probasah talking about that here.

Basically after testing 1M RNG spins himself and looking at the data, he felt the grail was simply betting 4s into the first 5, or 5s into the first 6, via flatbetting, with a strategy that he didn't disclose.  He didn't say it specifically, it was implied basically.

And he didn't give any details about how to play, when to engage (if it's late or behind), if every session wins or just the majority win, etc.

He did say he couldn't use any progression due to risk, it was flatbetting only. 



So flat bet then.

Good day from R-sim race course.
Today we have a 3 circuit race, comprising of 37 runners.
We’re under starters orders; we’re off.
1st out the stalls is stall 15, followed by 27-9-28-11 now 28 has taken the lead.
We’ve still got 31 lengths to go. Number 28’s weight has gone up. The field stands at
15-27-9-28-11-28-5; another length completed and 28; is now pulling away. 15-27-9-28-11-28-5-28
Number 28’s weight goes up again. Another length completed and 22 has entered the field
15-27-9-28-11-28-5-28-22-13-27; we now see 27 is a mover, 28 is just out in front, we’re 11/37 completed, prize fund is now 89 units.
Should this race be re-started?
Pit boss says you might as well carry on; wringing his hands 15-27-9-28-11-28-5-28-22-13-27-16; 16 entered the field; pit boss say’s, you know you’ll win?
15-27-9-28-11-28-5-28-22-13-27-16-34-3-25-22; 16 lengths completed of this 3 circuit race; the 22 is moving up too join 27; but 28 is setting the pace.
15-27-9-28-11-28-5-28-22-13-27-16-34-3-25-22-26-9; that’s 18 lengths completed, half the circuit is done. Number 9 has moved up; out in front is 28 followed by 9-22 and 27; we’ve 13 runners on the field from the starting 37. Will standard be met today, will we see 24 runners on the field, some experts think it’s a one horse race; or just toO far to finish.
So, prize fund is now 63 units.
15-27-9-28-11-28-5-28-22-13-27-16-34-3-25-22-26-9-23 has joined the race.
15-27-9-28-11-28-5-28-22-13-27-16-34-3-25-22-26-9-23-31-4-26; 26 has made a move, but 28 is still a front runner, but is he slowing, prize fund is 21 units. Number 1 enters the field and these late starters are effecting the prize fund 3000 units is now 2999.

Title: Re: Not hard
Post by: nottophammer on Feb 09, 10:54 AM 2019
The commentator roars out number 23;                                                                                                         15-27-9-28-11-28-5-28-22-13-27-16-34-3-25-22-26-9-23-31-4-26-1-23 the prize fund at 24/37 stands 3012 units
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Title: Re: Not hard
Post by: nottophammer on Feb 09, 10:57 AM 2019
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So you see 17 runners at 24/37 another 13 lengths to complete the 1st circuit. Is the field getting to big, should some runners be pulled out? There are 6 front runners.
At 30/37 are we expecting 9 repeats; will any of these 6 front runners pull further away.
Title: Re: Not hard
Post by: nottophammer on Feb 09, 10:59 AM 2019
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So we see #28 has pulled further away and #34 has moved as well, prize fund 107 units
Title: Re: Not hard
Post by: nottophammer on Feb 09, 11:33 AM 2019
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So leave the hit once off +219

Circuit 2 starting
Title: Re: Not hard
Post by: nottophammer on Feb 09, 11:59 AM 2019
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Made it flat bet
Title: Re: Not hard
Post by: The General on Feb 10, 09:20 PM 2019
Your draw downs look pretty rough.  :o
Title: Re: Not hard
Post by: Roulettebeater on Feb 11, 01:35 AM 2019
Quote from: The General on Feb 10, 09:20 PM 2019
Your draw downs look pretty rough.  :o

The holes are pretty sexy and I am sure there will be wiped  out