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Title: Street Trips
Post by: buffalowizard on Feb 14, 10:37 AM 2019
Inspired by AMK s thread, I was looking at the streets instead of straight ups. (Cos I'm lazy)

I was looking at sets of 18 spins and couldn't find any that didnt have at least one triple - that being a street that hits 3 times.

So my question for the guys with clever minds is what kind of progression do we need to bet on each double that appears?

Here is an example...

12
11
8
11.  Double. Bet street 11
8.    Double. Best streets 11,8 -1
9.    -3
10.  -5
6.   -7
6.   Bet 8,11,6 -9
8.   Win.....
11
8
8
6
10
7
4
10

Is there some way of attacking this or is it just a case of table limits winning out?
Title: Re: Street Trips
Post by: buffalowizard on Feb 14, 11:32 AM 2019
Three more goes . not saying that flat betting is gonna work here but maybe a mild type of progression will work


7
1
3
6
5
8
12
1.       Bet street 1
4.     -1
9.     -2
11.   -3
12.   Bet streets 12,1 -4
12.   Win
6
12
7
2
10

**********************

8
1
6
10
2
12
11
1.     Bet S 1
12.   Bet 12,1 -1
2.     Bet. 12,1,2 -3
6.     Bet 12,1,2,6 -6
6.     Win
3
7
5
5
1
8

*******************

3
8
5
11
1
1.    Bet street 1
1.    Win
1
1
12
6
6
5
5
11
5
12
2
Title: Re: Street Trips
Post by: Bigbroben on Feb 14, 11:53 AM 2019
Hi,

you'll get no hit in 18 spins +/- 2,25% of times, according to my test (452/20000).  You can expect 3 hits or more 60% of times.

Most of the time you won't need a prog to reach a positive score.  Progression depends on how many streets are played.

Probably an easier game than stright-ups for tracking...
Title: Re: Street Trips
Post by: buffalowizard on Feb 14, 12:08 PM 2019
Thanks B,

so what's your opinion, does it have legs this one? Worth testing further or shall I bin it
Title: Re: Street Trips
Post by: Bigbroben on Feb 14, 12:28 PM 2019
Ok I think it's good.  Not a HG, will fall to house edge, but I think it's an easier play and a good winrate when applying only a small progression.
I'll check for a positive progression aiming at 3 hits or more.

Title: Re: Street Trips
Post by: buffalowizard on Feb 14, 12:35 PM 2019
Quote from: Bigbroben on Feb 14, 12:28 PM 2019
Ok I think it's good.  Not a HG, will fall to house edge, but I think it's an easier play and a good winrate when applying only a small progression.
I'll check for a positive progression aiming at 3 hits or more.

Cool, will be interested to find that out, saves me spending days testing by hand.
Title: Re: Street Trips
Post by: Bigbroben on Feb 14, 12:38 PM 2019
Saving decades of testing with a tiny ctrl+key macro!
Title: Re: Street Trips
Post by: buffalowizard on Feb 14, 12:40 PM 2019
Quote from: Bigbroben on Feb 14, 12:38 PM 2019
Saving decades of testing with a tiny ctrl+key macro!
One day when my kids aren't so time consuming, I will learn excel.
Consign my battered notebook to the dustbin
Title: Re: Street Trips
Post by: Bigbroben on Feb 14, 12:52 PM 2019
Quote from: buffalowizard on Feb 14, 12:40 PM 2019
One day when my kids aren't so time consuming, I will learn excel.
Consign my battered notebook to the dustbin

I knew almost nothing of Excel a year ago.  It's feasible step by step.
Title: Re: Street Trips
Post by: Bigbroben on Feb 14, 12:59 PM 2019
Quote from: Bigbroben on Feb 14, 12:38 PM 2019
Saving decades of testing with a tiny ctrl+key macro!

It took 60 seconds and I have 1000 trials of 18 spins with an edge of 3,38%.  If I had it done manually over weeks or months, I might have called Eureka on it.

... 2 minutes late: -1,75%.

Title: Re: Street Trips
Post by: buffalowizard on Feb 14, 01:04 PM 2019
Quote from: Bigbroben on Feb 14, 12:59 PM 2019
It took 60 seconds and I have 1000 trials of 18 spins with an edge of 3,38%.  If I had it done manually over weeks or months, I might have called Eureka on it.

... 2 minutes late: -1,75%.

Sheeeeet!

That flatbet or with pos prog?
Title: Re: Street Trips
Post by: buffalowizard on Feb 14, 01:06 PM 2019
Brings forth the old argument that I could've spent the rest of my life playing those first 18,000 spins and on my death bed, been a true roulette winner....philosophical question, but at what point do humungous tests become inconsequential?