Hello Class :)
The lessons will have 3 Chapters
1)Predicting at the correct Revolution of the Ball.
a)The WHY?
b)HOW?
2)Rotor speed Calculation
a)The WHY?
b)HOW?
3)Picking the correct scatter of the ball
ps.We will not procced from the 1 chapter to the next until all of you have understood the previous chapters.
great! all at ears jordan!
Brilliant ! :thumbsup:
1)Predicting at the correct Revolution of the Ball.
One of the factors that we need in a VB prediction is to be able to IDENTIFY the Correct revolution of the ball.
By "the correct revolution of the ball" we mean that in every spin we must be able to identify the same revolutions from the time of the prediction till the time that the ball will hit the Dominiand Diamond.(and drop into the Rotor)
If we will observe the ball revolutions from the start of the spin ,we will see that the ball in every new REV it is slowing down until will hit the DD and drop in the Rotor.
Every wheel has a "knee point"
The Knee point is the point (between the Revs) that the ball will have a BIGGER AND MORE NOTICABLE DECLERATION.(than the other REVS that they seem to be almost the same in speed)
This is the key to tell you in which REV from the END you are....
The knee point in 1 wheel can be at the 3d or at the 4th or at the 5th or at the 6th rev etc.
We don't know where is the knee point until we will observe 10-20 spins to find out....
SO for example:
The spin starts and we observe the revs as they are going down till the end:
14th
13th
12
11
10
9
8 still the REVS seems very fast and without any particular noticable DECLERATION
...............................
7
6
5
4 -------) from the 5th to the 4th REV we observe a Bigger Decleration...SO THIS IS THE TIME THAT WE SAY "NOW" and we are counting the revs till the DD HIT!
3
2
1
0 DD HIT!
We we saw in that spin that the KNEE POINT was at the 4th REV of the end.....
(WE NEVER CARE OF HOW MANY REVS THE BALL WILL DO FROM THE START OF THE SPIN.....WE JUST CARE TO COUNT HOW MANY REVS WILL MAKE AT THE TIME THAT WE SAY "NOW" TILL THE TIME OF THE DD HIT....the "NOW" will be replaiced later with the moment of the prediction)
So if we will see that we are able to IDENTIFY the 4th rev in the next spins then it means that the 1st factor is OK(the correct rev)
The WHY we must always predict the SAME REVS TO THE END is because in order to make a VB prediction we must have ALWAYS the same REMAINING TIME for the ball to hit the DD.
Here is the link for you to test your skills in predicting the same rev in every spin....You must not be sad if you can t predict in EVERY SPIN PERFEVTLY....a 7/10 spins correct is giving a very good advantage.
In this wheel the DD is at 12 ocklcok and the knee point is at the 4th REV
A secret to be able to see the ball speeds(REV) better is that when the ball is starting slowing down to HOLD your BREATH in order for your BRAIN to have a better FOCUS.This is because when we don't breath all the sences of the brain are more SHARP(like the pain sences etc)
DO NOT FOLLOW with your eyes THE BALL as it is spinning around the ball track...this is a MISTAKE!
Just look at 12 ocklock and look at the ball with periferial VISION as it is passing again and again from the 12 ocklock point.....with that way you will be able to see the BIGGER SPEED DECLERATION.(meaning that the ball will have a BIGGER DELAY from the pasing of the 12 ocklcok and coming again to 12 ocklock)
link:://rouletteplace.com/index.php?topic=857.0 (link:://rouletteplace.com/index.php?topic=857.0)
OK do tests on predicting the 4th rev and tell me the results....... :)
(Do not care about the Rotor and the numbers...this will be the next chapter lesson....just care about the ball revs for now)
ps. Later on you will all see that you will be making a lot more accurate predictions than the RC in the video which it consider to be the best RC!
Ball almost always exits the outer drum at the same point.
I counted 8 spins Revs after the knee point before the chap started to count how many spins Revs the ball took after he had observed that same knee point.
Also, you can hear the moment when the ball chances velocity and begins to decelerate.
Interesting mechanical device they where using to predict the drop/rotor land point.
The counter- Got one (17) spot on later, but was nearly always within 8-10 numbers of the predicted socket and the actually landing number.
Man let the others come to your LEVEL...don't play the smart in the class :D
The only thing that you do it to confuse them....
and its not spins its REVS! ! >:(
So how do you determine when you have a DD? I'm guessing you watch until you see a diamond get hit A times in B spins - but what should be A and B?
Oh! I am sorry Bayes and people. :o
I thought that you already knew how we can see if a wheel is tilted.
So the answer is that in order to consider a wheel tilted the ball must hit the same D in a ratio of 4 of 10 spins at least. More is better ofcource :)
But don't worry about it because I will also teach you How to take advantage of 2 Ds ;)
So people HOW are you doing with your tests in Identifing the same Rev???
I see that all of you started with great interest but when the practicing-testing started the interest is gone :o
If there is no interest please tell me to lock the thread.
I am getting the hang of it. Just need a few more practice. Look forward to the next lesson! Any way we can do this for online casinos?
Yes, it takes a little practice, but I'm getting there. Please continue Jordan. :)
QuoteSo people HOW are you doing with your tests in Identifing the same Rev???
9 to 10 out of 10 - is that ok Jordan ?
Would you say i am a good student ?
We can t continue to the next lesson until all of you would have done practice and tell me their accuracy in predicting the 4th rev out of this wheel.
Didn t we say that it must go step by step? :) Its the ONLY way!
I am glad that ego ,Bayes and weddings are practicing and are doing good.
yes ego 9 of 10 is very very nice! and in this wheel this is the acuracy rate that you must all have with practice.....later on we will move to a harder wheel ;)
I am teaching you exactly as it should.....step by step ...easy wheel and then harder one.
I am waiting to see the posts of the other members too that showed interest and motivated me to start the lessons....
ps.weddings online Casino and VB is not possible to play.
But later on I will tell you about an online Casino to test your skills...but this will be only after you would have learned everything! ;)
Im doin ok thanx Jordan
Maybe not as good as 9/10 but around 8/10
Many thanx for your guidance !
8-10 in your Level is quite good! :thumbsup:
This means that in 8 of 10 spins you will be betting with a lot better advantagae than the disadvantage of the -2.7.
In the other 2 spins you will be playing with the classic -2.7.
It is natural...we can t have perfect pred in all the spins....and we can t have in every spin a perfect DD hit....But it doesn't matter....the advantage is still there
well done....keep practicing until all the members will post their results
Twisteruk
Bayes
weddings
Chrisbis
ego
are the members that have done progress so far. :thumbsup:
So lets see IF you have understood correct what we are asking.
When the ball has reached a certain speed(bigger decleration) we say "NOW"...and after this "NOW" we count 1,2,3,4 REVS and the ball is hitting the DD.....
are we all doing that? :)
Yes, I understand that part. It took a while to understand it but I am with you all now.
I agree with Chris, you can hear the deceleration very easily.
Looking forward to the next step Jordan. Thanks for sharing with us. :thumbsup:
Ok! on the 2nd try I got 10/10 correct. all spot on=]
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Do we have to know which DD the ball will hit before going into the wheel? For example in part 2 i think in the 3rd spin the ball drops in the 9o'clock DD instead of the 12o'clock.
Well done to all of you my little children! ;D
I see very good progress !
weddings
When we are in the Casino and we observe all the wheels to find a Tilted one(more hits in a particular D) after finding it ,all our calibrations (in calculations) are being made for this particular D.....
we just don t care about the other D hits.
But the advantage will be created in the spins that the ball is HITTING THE DD.....
The other spins will be under the -2.7 as all the maths systems ;D
But when u all have learned everything in VB I will also teach you how to take advantage on the 2nd D ;)
Ok cant wait for the next lesson. Guys for the video try predicting without the audio, gives us a handicap but thats how we get better.
2)Chapter 2. ROTOR CALCULATION
We have all understood the WHY we need to be able to IDENTIFY a particulat ball rev from the end of the spin.
Let me say once again it is because WE NEED TO HAVE A SPECIFIC REMAINING TIME FROM THE TIME OF THE PREDICTION TILL THE TIME THAT THE BALL WILL DROP INTO THE ROTOR.
Now we will learn HOW we will be able to know WHICH number will be at the "strike point" of the ball!!!
Strike point is the number that the ball will first impact(HIT) when the ball will hit the DD and enter the ROTOR.
The strike point is our stable valieu to know IF our predictions are correct and accurate.
We are always taking the strike point valieu as stable because the the final number that the ball will land it varies in every spin because of the scatter that the ball will make from the strike pont number till the number that it will finally sit in.(outcome)
So after 50-100 spins when we will find out what is the average scatter of the ball, we are adding this jump in our strike point prediction( we will learn the HOW later) so we are having predictions on the OUTCOME!
DID we all understand the THEORY ?
ps. You are 100% correct weddings! Predicting the REV without sound its a very good practice!
Now take a look at this because you are gonna need it in order to learn how to clock(measure) the rotor speed in order to predict the strike point.
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So on the wheel we have :
1)The VERTICAL Ds (4)
2)The HORIZONTAL Ds (4)
3)The LINES on the wood ( 8 )
Remember that every LINE is between the VERTICAN and the HORIZONTAL Ds.
Also remember that every distance between a LINE and a D(or oposite) is always 3 POCKETS(numbers)
Also Every distance between 2 Vertical Ds and 2 Horizontal Ds are always 9 pockets.
Are you folowing me? :)
Yes :thumbsup:
So every time that you will be in the Casino before play you will make with a pen on the score card this DIAGRAM: (without the pockets distance this was just to remind you the distances....you will just drow the BLACK DIAGRAM)
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OK now in order to start learning HOW to clock rotor speed you need something like a metronome that will count 2 SECS.
So at the moment that you will be pushing the metronome button it must start (with noise ,beeps,or music) and stop after 2 secs.
google free metronome and download any....just remember to put 2 sec TIME.
WE ARE MAKING THE WHEEL A BIG CLOCK IN ORDER TO KNOW WHERE TO LOOK FOR THE PREDICTION WHEN THE TIME OF THE CORRECT REV WILL COME.
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So we are speaking with the TERMS of HOURS.
Every distance from hour to hour is 3 pockets.
I can t procced if I don't see anyone reading and understanding what I am posting.I am making a big effort here for all of you.
I am following Jordan, ok so far, I think there is a 'thumper' available for download on the other site. Is a metronome the same thing? or are they different. Which is better in your opinion?
Anything that when we press it ,it counts 2 secs and give and idication will do.
You can also use ur mobile phone if it has a metronome or thumber
ok, thanks. :thumbsup:
Nice teaching today Jordan. Im up to scratch with U all now
-chris (joke free day)
Following.. i dont think some casinos will allow the use of devices. can we count the 2 secs in our head as well?
The device that you are going to use in the Casino will not be visible....why are u rushing things up mate? follow my steps and when we will come to the point of HOW and WHICH device you wre gonna use in the Casino then ur question will be answered..
But yes with a lot of trainning we can have a nice rythum and count 2 secs in our head...but is NOT for now.
10 members in here asked me to start these VB lessons.
I can t see where are the rest of them....I am just working with 2-3 members.....
yes i understand just asking=/ maybe they are busy and will look onto the thread when they are free? what do you suggest?
If we will not see interest then we must lock the thread.
I am putting an effort here if you can see.
I am not giving any clues to a scam system like Maths and patterns....I am giving lessons of a genuine way to win. NOT clues but LESSONS.
I had already an insalt from the member ego.
I will not continue if i will see an other one.
its in your choise ppl...i just had good intentions to teach you something that it costs at least 600-700 $ if you would buy the materials.and even if you would buy them,you wouldn t have the best solution as I am giving you.
im following the thread ,always had an interest in visual great job explaneing so far everything is crystal clear.warrior
thanks.
Hi Jordan,
I'm following your lessons with much interest. What else can I tell you? I didnt know anything about VB before so i'm grateful you decided to share your knowledge about it.
Go on please. Thanks.
Cheers,
Carlos.
Cont for us loyal fans:)
Hi Jordan,
I'm following your teaching too. Please, don't stop. We appreciate your effort.
Thank you.
Robert
Jordan, even if only a handful of people decide to try their hand at VB after your teachings, then you can be happy with what you have shared. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink. :smile:
Great stuff Jordan, looking forward to the next lesson!
U can take a Horse to water, but a pencil has to be Lead.
Quote from: Jordan on Nov 24, 08:50 AM 2010
If we will not see interest then we must lock the thread.
I am putting an effort here if you can see.
I am not giving any clues to a scam system like Maths and patterns....I am giving lessons of a genuine way to win. NOT clues but LESSONS.
I had already an insalt from the member ego.
I will not continue if I will see an other one.
its in your choise people...i just had good intentions to teach you something that it costs at least 600-700 $ if you would buy the materials.and even if you would buy them,you wouldn t have the best solution as I am giving you.
Jordan Amigo,
I really appreciate your effort in explaining things about VB play,even thought I
don't play it,but what strikes me in your explanations,that you always repeating
other ways of play,mats and pattern systems as a scam,even thought you had an appology thread that you wouldn't do it again,and yet in this thread of yours you did it
four times.Why??????
I didn t interup or insulted ur losing jokes systems again. So u should be happy.
I tryed to offer to all of you knowledje for free but u refused...
So continue making losing systems
Quote from: Jordan on Nov 24, 02:51 PM 2010
I didn t interup or insulted your losing jokes systems again. So you should be happy.
I tryed to offer to all of you knowledje for free but you refused...
So continue making losing systems
[/quote]Talking to you is like hitting the wall.
You are a joke man.
When is the next Lesson ?
I see (read) Ur about to push the self destruct button.........again Jordan.
Such a waste man, because, although I have not had much dealing with U before, and I am giving U an opinion based solely on how I find U, U do seam to have something to say to an amassed audience about the subject of VB.
most of Ur followers (I suspect) know very little on the subject, so we ARE keen to learn,
but learn at our pace Jordan, since this IS a correspondence course, not residential.
So, please, for Ur sake, just instruct Us, teach Us, lay it all out in Ur brilliant inspired thread, maybe a thread fully locked from other comments, and save the comments for another thread, one where maybe U can view questions, feedback and requests for further information.
But for Pete's sake (No he's not a member), refrain from losing focus on the task in hand,
which, if i remember correctly, was to TEACH, INFORM, INSTRUCT, GUIDE, and most of all.......................PASS ON UR KNOWLEDGE.
I hope this has been of help to U Jordan, cause its looks to me, U have had a bad day of it.
Yours in appreciation of Ur teaching thread- Chris. 8)
Well, Jordan. You ignored my PMd advice to LOCK this thread to stop it filling up with daft jokes and other distracting posts.
So what did you do? You locked instead, the other thread!! Brilliant.
I've now locked this thread because it has become too hard to follow your lessons amongst all the other stuff that's clogged the thread.
Yet you still asked in a post why so many have dropped out of following the lessons.
It's pretty obvious why!!
And you have only yourself to blame, I'm afraid.
So sad...
The good news is that if you want to continue then
* PM me or another Moderator and we'll unlock it for you
* you can then delete all the posts that are not your lessons
* continue to post lessons
* you should then keep this thread locked yourself (I've already told you how in a PM because you asked me) so only you can post in it
* set up another unlocked thread for questions and answers
It's your call.