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Title: About 37 spins and stats
Post by: Anastasius on Mar 15, 09:30 PM 2019
In about 99% of games theres at least one number  triple up by spin 37.

Anyone care to go through a large amount of spins and tell me what spin # is the most common spin # for a first triple up? (I suspect spin  #23) from my test.

Also on whatever spin # is the most common i want to know what  the average amount of doubles bet is and also the most common amount of doubles bet for the triple up.

But most important  just wanna know the spin #

Title: Re: About 37 spins and stats
Post by: Anastasius on Mar 15, 09:38 PM 2019
Actually  two separate  stats

1. Most common spin number for first triple

2. Most common amount of double for the first triple
Title: Re: About 37 spins and stats
Post by: Anastasius on Mar 15, 10:09 PM 2019
From my test like 70% of hit were between spins 18-25  . 22.23.24 were about the most common. 
Title: Re: About 37 spins and stats
Post by: Anastasius on Mar 15, 10:12 PM 2019
It wont be 100% safe cus still like 30% hit after spin 24. I think it narrows down something  though no?  I think the most common was 6 double  up then hit. 6/37 in a certain range  must increase accuracy
Title: Re: About 37 spins and stats
Post by: Bigbroben on Mar 15, 10:44 PM 2019
Quote from: Anastasius on Mar 15, 09:38 PM 2019
1. Most common spin number for first triple
2. Most common amount of double for the first triple

10000 runs:
(link:://:.pichost.org/images/2019/03/15/sourcee84ab.png) (link:://:.pichost.org/image/Ua5x0)
(link:://:.pichost.org/images/2019/03/15/sourcedec70.png) (link:://:.pichost.org/image/UaGBH)
(link:://:.pichost.org/images/2019/03/15/source4dc31.png) (link:://:.pichost.org/image/Uaskd)
Title: Re: About 37 spins and stats
Post by: Anastasius on Mar 15, 10:49 PM 2019
Cool.

Does this mean spin 21 is most common and 4 repeaters before  a triple?

Is it 4 repeaters on any spin number hit? Or 4 repeaters most common hitting spin 21
Title: Re: About 37 spins and stats
Post by: Bigbroben on Mar 15, 10:51 PM 2019
Yes, 4 repeaters on any nr.

There were 169 occurence where the R3 was on spin 21 with 4 R1s.
Title: Re: About 37 spins and stats
Post by: Anastasius on Mar 15, 10:53 PM 2019
Could u do just like 2 more 10k sets please and see  if its still 21 and 4 ! Haha .anythung we can do with this or its fallacy ! Lol
Title: Re: About 37 spins and stats
Post by: Bigbroben on Mar 15, 11:09 PM 2019
The most common occurence though was with 3 repeaters on spin 18.  Happened 184 times.

Dissected.

(link:://:.pichost.org/images/2019/03/16/source.png) (link:://:.pichost.org/image/Uat0U)

(link:://:.pichost.org/images/2019/03/16/source6da71.png) (link:://:.pichost.org/image/UaTdg)

Just for fun
Title: Re: About 37 spins and stats
Post by: Anastasius on Mar 15, 11:17 PM 2019
Mount everest diagram. So on spin 18 3 repeaters. So 3 is most common on spin 18 and also overall regarsless what spin number is the hit?

Any ideas what range to go for since spins 18-23 have similar values  .i think ill just stop after 5 repeaters too just go for 3/4
Title: Re: About 37 spins and stats
Post by: Anastasius on Mar 15, 11:18 PM 2019
Spin number 18 to 23 all have similar values. :o
Title: Re: About 37 spins and stats
Post by: Anastasius on Mar 15, 11:42 PM 2019
Also if bet too early thr combined totals of later hits will overcome.

Any geniuses  out there
Title: Re: About 37 spins and stats
Post by: Bigbroben on Mar 16, 10:07 AM 2019
Quote from: Anastasius on Mar 15, 10:53 PM 2019
Could u do just like 2 more 10k sets please and see  if its still 21 and 4 ! Haha .anythung we can do with this or its fallacy ! Lol

155k runs overnight:
More of the same, pretty much.

(link:://:.pichost.org/images/2019/03/16/sourcef5c76.png) (link:://:.pichost.org/image/UaqG1)

(link:://:.pichost.org/images/2019/03/16/sourcec7dea.png) (link:://:.pichost.org/image/UaHQ5)

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Title: Re: About 37 spins and stats
Post by: Anastasius on Mar 16, 12:40 PM 2019
Thabk for ur spreadsheets and help

Thats all i need  for now forget my other requests ....


I just played the 3/4 repeaters area went up to +100 then back to +10 long grind 3 hours.

If possible later can u just do one more woth 10k showing the same but with triple ups then the first  4 repeater then reset. Just in case theres some anomaly there. I just wana know the spin it hits most and the most common amount of triples before the first 4 hit number.

Cool graphs....
Title: Re: About 37 spins and stats
Post by: Anastasius on Mar 16, 12:41 PM 2019
Any ideas how to play with this.
Title: Re: About 37 spins and stats
Post by: Anastasius on Mar 16, 02:07 PM 2019
Passionface thus needs a very soft progression i already missed 15 bets in a row in first  3 hrs  :-\
Title: Re: About 37 spins and stats
Post by: Bigbroben on Mar 16, 02:33 PM 2019
Quote from: Anastasius on Mar 16, 12:41 PM 2019
Any ideas how to play with this.

Tried many ways yesterday and this morning: there is no way out.

The sim could be at +2000u after 15000 runs but it would sink soon or later, in all cases.
Title: Re: About 37 spins and stats
Post by: Bigbroben on Mar 16, 02:41 PM 2019
Quote from: Bigbroben on Mar 16, 02:33 PM 2019
Tried many ways yesterday and this morning: there is no way out.

The sim could be at +2000u after 15000 runs but it would sink soon or later, in all cases.
Here is one running right now, at 4000 runs:
(link:://:.pichost.org/images/2019/03/16/source8afd5.png) (link:://:.pichost.org/image/Ub2Qa)

Will repost at >10000 runs for an example
Title: Re: About 37 spins and stats
Post by: Anastasius on Mar 16, 02:42 PM 2019
How is it betting each run
Title: Re: About 37 spins and stats
Post by: Anastasius on Mar 16, 02:44 PM 2019
Any way to find out the max amount of times in a row it goes above 3/4 repeaters to 5 and then it hits 3 or 4 again. So  it goes 5+ repeaters say 5 times in a row hitting the triple with 5 repeaters then goes back and hits 3 or 4??
Title: Re: About 37 spins and stats
Post by: Anastasius on Mar 16, 02:46 PM 2019
Later can u look at triples turning into the first number to hit 4 .im hoping it stretches out a reviels and clearer betting zone
Title: Re: About 37 spins and stats
Post by: Bigbroben on Mar 16, 03:05 PM 2019
Quote from: Anastasius on Mar 16, 02:46 PM 2019
Later can u look at triples turning into the first number to hit 4 .im hoping it stretches out a reviels and clearer betting zone

Explain?

Above session, at 10000 runs.
(link:://:.pichost.org/images/2019/03/16/source0c4b6.png) (link:://:.pichost.org/image/UbAUg)
Title: Re: About 37 spins and stats
Post by: Anastasius on Mar 16, 03:21 PM 2019
I just want to see the same stats for a 10k runs.

Except instead of 2 repeaters turning into the first triple i want to see the.most common amount of triples turning into the first number to quadruple.

So.instead of 2.hits becoming 3. I want to see 3 hits becoming 4 haha  :-X
Title: Re: About 37 spins and stats
Post by: Anastasius on Mar 16, 03:31 PM 2019
Im hoping the quadruples might have a clearer betting zone ???
Title: Re: About 37 spins and stats
Post by: Bigbroben on Mar 16, 06:11 PM 2019
Quote from: Anastasius on Mar 16, 03:21 PM 2019
I just want to see the same stats for a 10k runs.

Except instead of 2 repeaters turning into the first triple i want to see the.most common amount of triples turning into the first number to quadruple.

So.instead of 2.hits becoming 3. I want to see 3 hits becoming 4 haha  :-X

Feel free to do it , I'm not done yet with the R3s.
Title: Re: About 37 spins and stats
Post by: Anastasius on Mar 16, 08:45 PM 2019
Did u try betting 3 or 4 only and from about spin  17-21?

It was big grind when i play  rapid

U think it.can miss much before a.hit in that zone ?   
Title: Re: About 37 spins and stats
Post by: Anastasius on Mar 16, 08:51 PM 2019
The.most.common.àmount of.singles b4 a double is 8

In this case.the amount of double before triple is 3/4

I assume triples into quads.boils  it down to 1/2.numbers

Take ur time tho look later after u look into these graph lol theres lots to examine bhaha
Title: Re: About 37 spins and stats
Post by: Anastasius on Mar 16, 08:51 PM 2019
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Title: Re: About 37 spins and stats
Post by: Bigbroben on Mar 16, 08:54 PM 2019
I posted something about the different repeaters not too long ago. Let me check.
Title: Re: About 37 spins and stats
Post by: Bigbroben on Mar 16, 09:07 PM 2019
Ok Anastasius,

check the Vaddis thread, page 136: part of you rquestion will be answered.
Title: Re: About 37 spins and stats
Post by: Anastasius on Mar 16, 09:16 PM 2019
Thank u .i couldnt decipher hahaha

What u think bet each best position for each number so bet 1 double then 2 doubles then 3 etc in their best spin positions only so 1+2+3 etc. If it hits in between and u miss just reset at 1.. however theres many options.
Title: Re: About 37 spins and stats
Post by: Bigbroben on Mar 16, 09:26 PM 2019
I had tried a simulation where there were different possible bets in a run:
If there is 1 repeater at spin 10, bet the rep for 1 spin;
If still no 3-peater and 2 reps on spin 14, bet 2 reps once;
3 reps on spin 17 and 4 reps on spin 20.
This setup got me the best result, being +2500 after 20000 runs but back to negative after some 30k runs...
Title: Re: About 37 spins and stats
Post by: Anastasius on Mar 16, 09:37 PM 2019
I.was play up to spin 18. But many hit after spin 18....it could all be fallacy?

It would be a rare occurance but what u think bet 21# spin only.....

Title: Re: About 37 spins and stats
Post by: Bigbroben on Mar 17, 12:21 PM 2019
Anastasius,

the Excel file is too large to share here, but here are graphs for the first nr repeating 3 times ( so 4 hits):

(link:://:.pichost.org/images/2019/03/17/source.png) (link:://:.pichost.org/image/UdGlU)
Title: Re: About 37 spins and stats
Post by: Anastasius on Mar 17, 12:24 PM 2019
 :-X :thumbsup: thnx wow i like the rainbow everest
Title: Re: About 37 spins and stats
Post by: Anastasius on Mar 18, 12:11 AM 2019
Broben please disregard my messages .if u want to later just do 4th repeaters fir the first 5th repeater.  Becausr i think i can see a way to play all 3 levels
Title: Re: About 37 spins and stats
Post by: Anastasius on Mar 18, 01:54 AM 2019
Thanks broben i could never have seen this manually  its the slowest grind but im way ahead finally
Title: Re: About 37 spins and stats
Post by: Steve on Mar 18, 06:03 AM 2019
It won't work because your hit rate is unchanged. You've changed nothing.
Title: Re: About 37 spins and stats
Post by: Anastasius on Mar 18, 06:44 AM 2019
Hows a lazer balanced wheel different  to a rng. U need to bet before the balls thrown even if its thrown and u get a few seconds to watch as it spins  it hits  the barriers and scatters hard no eye except an alien can track that. Personally i think the wheel layout is as meaningless and u think a mechanical system is meaningless. ..