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Title: Need Help with Coding (Roulette Xtreme 2.0)
Post by: lesliewheeler on May 01, 01:38 AM 2019
HI,

I would sincerely appreciate if some can help me with the code (for roulette xtreme 2.0) as per below information:-

1. I would like to use Fisher Roulette Money Management for Betting

2. For Bet Selection I will use the below method:-
    a. Keep betting on the last outcome till you have 2 consecutive losses.
    b. After 2 consecutive losses start betting the result 1step preceding to last outcome till you get a loss. (If you lose this then it       reverts to betting the previous outcome)
    c. If a 0 comes bet the outcome previous to 0

I hope I was able to be clear enough for what I want.

Appreciate your help!!!
Title: Re: Need Help with Coding (Roulette Xtreme 2.0)
Post by: Let Me Win on May 01, 07:58 PM 2019
Hopefully someone will code it for you.

Absolutely 100‰ it is a long term loser as is everything by Martin Silverthorne.
Title: Re: Need Help with Coding (Roulette Xtreme 2.0)
Post by: Steve on May 02, 12:22 AM 2019
Once you understand the basics, you can easily identify a losing system because it's just the same shit repackaged.
Title: Re: Need Help with Coding (Roulette Xtreme 2.0)
Post by: Roulettebeater on May 02, 05:26 AM 2019
Quote from: Steve on May 02, 12:22 AM 2019
Once you understand the basics, you can easily identify a losing system because it's just the same shit repackaged.

Steve
You talk about testing and software automated tests.

Now tell me if you have a VB based system in which you need to capture the launch, exit and result, how the hell can you automate such test !!!??

Title: Re: Need Help with Coding (Roulette Xtreme 2.0)
Post by: Firefox on May 02, 05:43 AM 2019
Quote from: Let Me Win on May 01, 07:58 PM 2019
Hopefully someone will code it for you.

Absolutely 100‰ it is a long term loser as is everything by Martin Silverthorne.

I agree with this. No real point even coding this, it will be 100%  losing long term.

Any system which relies on the immediately previous results for bet selection, with no other consideration, is a loser.
Title: Re: Need Help with Coding (Roulette Xtreme 2.0)
Post by: Steve on May 02, 06:07 AM 2019
Yes. My analysis method uses parameters like previous and next numbers, with other data, in an approach similar to dealer signature, but more complex. It identifies when and where there is edge, and accounts for changing conditions. Exactly how is not something I'll disclose except to say it uses cross referencing analysis. It doesn't beat all or even most wheels, but enough to be viable and practical.

Although I have already explained how anyone could code the software. My system is more an analysis method than a system.
Title: Re: Need Help with Coding (Roulette Xtreme 2.0)
Post by: Steve on May 02, 06:11 AM 2019
To be clear on this point, past spins do have a bearing on future spins, but only with respect to release points. And previous spins do hold clues to future spins.

But in the manner used by almost every system, past spins have zero effect on future spins. For example, a sequence like RRR has no effect on future spins. And would only hold clues to future spins in the event of bias. You can argue previous number will still affect the next color, and it will, but not to a degree where edge is possible, especially with predictions before ball release.

Any expert would say the same, but it's more generic to say past spins have no effect and are meaningless. Its almost always correct because of how systems attempt to use previous data.
Title: Re: Need Help with Coding (Roulette Xtreme 2.0)
Post by: Roulettebeater on May 02, 06:14 AM 2019
So u mean, physics aspect of past spins can have effect on future spins 
Title: Re: Need Help with Coding (Roulette Xtreme 2.0)
Post by: Steve on May 02, 06:22 AM 2019
Rb, basically yes. In contrast, predictions based on data like repeaters is useless except where there is heavy bias. But that would be a really bad way to exploit bias.

Repeaters happen with RNG or real wheels. It is normal probability. There is no exploitable cause and effect with random. Random means unpredictable. There have been a few eggheads saying repeats happening is predictable, but they're missing the difference being there's no predictability of winning number. Their philosophy is like saying the ball falling is predictable. Yes, it is. But can they predict the winning number better than random? No.
Title: Re: Need Help with Coding (Roulette Xtreme 2.0)
Post by: lesliewheeler on May 02, 01:43 PM 2019
Dear Steve and Firefox,

I have done this using VBA for betting on previous result and have had fair bit of success in win to loss. What I try to do by the 3 conditions is to take advantage of long streaks and keep adapting to patterns.

What I am trying to figure out is what money management will be useful.

I am not looking this at the long run but for shorter timeframe that we all go through during our play of 3-4 hours this would be beneficial I guess... thats why I need help for coding this to see the system in 300-500 spins.

Once I get a base code I will be able to understand and modify the money management as well.

Will appreciate it if anyone helps
Title: Re: Need Help with Coding (Roulette Xtreme 2.0)
Post by: webstars on May 02, 01:46 PM 2019
Quote from: lesliewheeler on May 02, 01:43 PM 2019
Dear Steve and Firefox,

I have done this using VBA for betting on previous result and have had fair bit of success in win to loss. What I try to do by the 3 conditions is to take advantage of long streaks and keep adapting to patterns.

What I am trying to figure out is what money management will be useful.

I am not looking this at the long run but for shorter timeframe that we all go through during our play of 3-4 hours this would be beneficial I guess... thats why I need help for coding this to see the system in 300-500 spins.

Once I get a base code I will be able to understand and modify the money management as well.

Will appreciate it if anyone helps

Please forget Roulette Xtreme and Steve and Firefox are also very old. Maybe 60+.
They did not know the new world in Roulette.
They are just a bunch of wannabegurus trying to sell Roulette Xtreme which is allready obsolete.

You can use JavaScript. Its completely free see here: link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=25987.msg227702;topicseen#msg227702
Title: Re: Need Help with Coding (Roulette Xtreme 2.0)
Post by: webstars on May 02, 01:54 PM 2019
I mean. Come on.
VBA is 50 Years old and has nothing to do with WEB Programming, where all the casinos are available!
Title: Re: Need Help with Coding (Roulette Xtreme 2.0)
Post by: s813n0 on May 02, 08:11 PM 2019
@steve

Just to be precise, there’s a way to be able to predict the number some PRNGs are going to show next.. but I think casinos are well aware of this and have already found a solution.
Title: Re: Need Help with Coding (Roulette Xtreme 2.0)
Post by: Steve on May 02, 08:47 PM 2019
Yes some PRNs are flawed. But here do you see people trying to test and exploit the PRNG, or reinvent a broken wheel?
Title: Re: Need Help with Coding (Roulette Xtreme 2.0)
Post by: s813n0 on May 03, 04:55 AM 2019
Totally agree about the “broken wheel”