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Title: The Honey Badger
Post by: Let Me Win on May 21, 05:21 AM 2019
The Honey Badger is my method of using a progression called the Mongoose with fixed rules and a 20 unit bank.

I've made a new topic here so anyone can take part. But let's not waste any time with tired old arguments about why this won't work  :twisted:

This is a practical method of how a system player could make a small living playing roulette.

This only works for French roulette so the house advantage against us is 1.35‰

Honey Badger does not care about 1.35% and considers it so small as to be insignificant.

This is the basis on which I will proceed.


Title: Re: The Honey Badger
Post by: Let Me Win on May 21, 05:34 AM 2019
We're going to proceed on the basis that we have a bankroll of £1000 which we have split into five separate bankrolls of £200 each.

Our unit of play is £10 so each visit to the casino we would bring £200 with us and buy in for 20 x £10 chips.

The casino then has to beat us five days in a row to completely wipe us out.

Each day I bring £200 to the casino I'm looking to leave with between £30 and £100 profit.

The maximum loss is £200 per day.

The great part about the Honey Badger is that every single decision is already decided for you before you start.

There is absolutely no thinking involved whatsoever.

Everything has been perfectly calculated to protect you.

The first part is to learn the Mongoose betting progression.

Here is an excellent explanation.

Mongoose bet sequence has 7 possible bets
The first two are a parlay
Three and four are a capped martingale
Five and six is a flatbet
Seven is to recover a lost 5 and 6 flatbet.

The 7 steps are in 3 sets.  If you lose any set, you start over.
Set #1 is the parlay.
If you lose either of these bets you  will be -1, start over.
If you win them both you are +3 so move to set 2.

Set #2 is the 2 step martingale starting with 1 unit or whatever your unit level is for this attack.
If you lose both of these bets you will be even having won 3 units in set 1 and having lost the 3 units in this set.  Start over.
If you win either of these bets you will be at +4 (+3 from set #1; +1 from set #2).
If you win either of these bets move to set 3.

Set #3 starts with a 1 unit bet.  If you win bet #5, you will be at +5 which is our goal.  Start over.
If you lose bet #5, bet #6 is a flatbet equal to #5.  If you win bet #6 you will be even for set 3 so rebet #5.
If you lost bet #5 and #6, you go to bet #7.
Bet #7 has 2 options:
1) bet 2 units.  A win breaks you even for set #3 so you can rebet #5.  A loss brings us to even so we start over.
2) bet 3 units.  A win nets us +1 unit for set 3 which gives us our 5 unit win for the mongoose sequence.  Start over.  A loss of 3 units places us at -1 for the sequence and we start over.
That's how you play the mongoose.  It gives you a pretty good chance of winning.  Each win recovers 5 losses.  I'm not saying it changes the odds to our favor, but it does give us more time for a little luck to help us.

Here's another way of expaining it:
(1) Bet 1 and 2 which are a Parley â€" Bet 1 is 1 unit and if it wins then bet 2 units
If either 1 or 2 loses then you go to the next figure in the Progression.  If both bets win, next:

(2) Bet 3 is 1 unit and if this wins then go to (3), but if it loses then multiply
the bet x 2 and try to win bet 4. If either bet 3 or 4 wins then go to (3).
If bets 3 and 4 lose then you go back to (1) and the next figure in the
Progression. However, because you have already won +3 units from (1) you
don’t actually lose.

(3) Bet 5 is 1 unit and if it wins then you are finished (in profit with +5) .
If bet 5 of 1 unit loses, you bet bet 6 which is 1 unit also and if bet 6 then wins, you go back and try bet 5 of 1 unit again.
If bet 5 of 1 unit loses and then bet 6 of 1 unit also loses,  you bet bet 7 of 3 units.
Win 7 and the game finishes (in profit of +5)
Lose bet 7 and you are -1 for this attack.  Go back to (1) and the next figure in the Progression.

Later I'll show you how we apply this to the Honey Badger.




Title: Re: The Honey Badger
Post by: Let Me Win on May 21, 06:00 AM 2019
Remember I told you the Honey Badger requires only 20 units per day?

And that every single decision is already predefined before you commence battle?

Well here are the fixed rules for playing with the 20 units. Your exit points are very clearly defined.

Title: Re: The Honey Badger
Post by: Let Me Win on May 21, 06:08 AM 2019
This attachment shows you the progession needed to play the Mongoose in conjunction with the Honey Badger.

Remember each time you lose a Mongoose attack you lose 1 unit and each time you win a Mongoose attack you win 5 units.

Title: Re: The Honey Badger
Post by: Let Me Win on May 21, 06:22 AM 2019
If you lose the above progression you lose 17 units.

Everything is already predefined which includes the bet selection.

Here's how it works. You will bet either red or black based on the following patterns one of which has to occur...

RRR you bet R
RBR you bet R
BRR you bet R
RRB you bet R
BBB you bet B
BRB you bet B
RBB you bet B
BBR you bet B

When you start the session you have no history to make a selection so you bet 1 chip for three spins on the corner 0,1,2,3

Sometimes you will hit and already make a very nice profit.

Most of the time you will lose these three spins but by losing the three spins you now have a pattern for your bet selection for the rest of the game.

Should zero appear then it's counted as a full loss on your progession stage but ignoreed for the purposes of future bet selection.

In other words the same selection either red or black is repeated for the next spin only the staking is adjusted.

Yes, bet selection makes no difference but this selection method happens to  work very nicely in the 'real world' and removes any need to think.

I think that is enough explanation?


Title: Re: The Honey Badger
Post by: Let Me Win on May 21, 06:26 AM 2019
Always remember if sh!t can happen sh!t will happen.

So you lose the three corner bets equals 3 unit loss.

Then you lose the Mongoose progression ten times you lose another 17 units.

That's how a 20 unit session bankroll could be lost.
I managed not to lose it very often so far?
Title: Re: The Honey Badger
Post by: ozzi43 on May 21, 07:42 AM 2019
Quote from: Let Me Win on May 21, 06:26 AM 2019
Always remember if sh!t can happen sh!t will happen.

So you lose the three corner bets equals 3 unit loss.

Then you lose the Mongoose progression ten times you lose another 17 units.

That's how a 20 unit session bankroll could be lost.
I managed not to lose it very often so far?
BIG Thank you for explaning.Now we need to learn and try this gem.👍
Title: Re: The Honey Badger
Post by: Let Me Win on May 21, 08:42 AM 2019
I managed to get the patterns wrong the correct patterns are...

BBB bet B
BRR bet B
RBR bet B
RRB bet B

RRR bet R
RBB bet R
BRB bet R
BBR bet R

Also consider the attachment for part of the Honey Badger theory.
Title: Re: The Honey Badger
Post by: Let Me Win on May 21, 08:44 AM 2019
And this attachment will show you the percentages you will face.
Title: Re: The Honey Badger
Post by: Person S on May 21, 10:52 AM 2019
Thanks for the interesting topic!
Thus, honey badger is not a system, but a good money management based on minimal risks.
Does it only work for 50/50 odds?
Title: Re: The Honey Badger
Post by: Let Me Win on May 21, 04:21 PM 2019
It could probably be adapted to other odds but that is not an area I would be interested in pursuing as I use this for Baccarat too.
Title: Re: The Honey Badger
Post by: Kattila on May 21, 05:12 PM 2019
Quote from other topic / Let Me Win

***
I have experimented with various ideas over the years.

I am a system player but I'm well aware of the maths.

I developed my own system or method which I have called the Honey Badger as it is based on a well known betting method called the Mongoose.

As in nature the Honey Badger is  superior to the Mongoose.

It can only be used on European roullete playing the even money bets so that there is only 1.35% house advantage.

Most members of this forum still haven't even grasped that simple fact which shows the level of intelligence of the majority of people here.

Going back to the method which I named the Honey Badger it requires a bankroll of just 20 units to play.

I am aiming to win between 3 and 10 units a session.

It's complicated to explain but I'm happy to play a sample game with anyone on Skype.

I'm not trying to sell anything and am content just reading the nonsense posted on here daily whilst making myself a few units to pay for my daily bread.

*** end quote

That (in red ) says a lot about you ....
And now you need the atention of all that majority * intelligent * people ?
Title: Re: The Honey Badger
Post by: Firefox on May 21, 06:12 PM 2019
QuoteI say the longshots are a whisker better when they are "warmed up" or bunching, I can't say why ... call it the law of attraction if you will... 

This is clearly bollox. There is no advantage in bet selection.

The rest of it is reasonable. So top marks for that. Play 1.35% house edge game only. Sensible money management to limit losses and protect bankroll. Limit session lengths etc.

It's a package which will lose to the house edge long term, but offers a fair chance of short or medium term wins and protects you from big losses.

Probably the best way to play if you want to have some fun gambling with a system in a controlled manner.
Title: Re: The Honey Badger
Post by: Let Me Win on May 22, 04:28 AM 2019
I'm not sure why Kattila is attacking me....

Someone ask me to explain Honey Badger and I pointed out that most of the forum are fighting against  2.7% when they should be concentrating on fighting against 1.35%
:yawn:
Title: Re: The Honey Badger
Post by: valvo on May 23, 12:08 AM 2019
Hi Let Me Win, once you start playing do you just keep rolling the decisions or bet every 3rd decision?
Thanks
Val
Title: Re: The Honey Badger
Post by: Let Me Win on May 23, 01:39 AM 2019
Personally I just play on a rolling basis after the third spin ignoring any zeros for the purpose of deciding what colour to bet next.

I treat the zero as a full loss for my staking even though I'm getting 50‰ of my stake returned.

I had a typical session yesterday.

£7 return bus fare to my local casino.

First session started badly and my £200 bankroll was down to around £120 I kept going and recovered to +2 which gave me a profit of £20 at which point I ended the session and had the casino's full English breakfast for £8

After eating I played another session which was pretty easy due to a long run of blacks which I stopped at +3 without aiming for higher.

So two sessions playing with a £200 bankroll each time and £10 chips.
Total profit £50
Total expenses £15

So I came home with £35 extra in my wallet and a belly full of food.

Total time taken including travelling approximately 3 hours.

Embrace the simple life  ;)
Title: Re: The Honey Badger
Post by: Robbert on May 24, 02:22 AM 2019
Why dont we just follow the colour? And dont waste 3 units on 0-1-2-3?

Works better for me!
Title: Re: The Honey Badger
Post by: Let Me Win on May 24, 07:26 AM 2019
You can indeed do that.

I however play as I said because I use the last three spin history and I want that last three spin history to be my personal history.

I also want to buy in for exactly 20 units.
The Mongoose progression is 17 units
The corner bet is 3 units
The betting section method I require needs 3 results to make predictions.

Yesterday was a good example.

I caught the bus to the casino and the first spin was black number 2.

So I left after one spin with £80 profit.

I didn't eat at the casino and used the £1.99 voucher on the back of the bus ticket to buy a big mac and fries at Mcdonalds.

Total expensess =  £9.99 bus ticket and Mcdonalds.

Overall profit = £70.01

Total time TAKEN including travelling approximately 2 hours.
Title: Re: The Honey Badger
Post by: Let Me Win on May 24, 07:30 AM 2019
If I were to play Baccarat I would bet on the tie for three hands also an 8/1 payout but with a house advantage of about 14% compared to the corner bet of only 2.7%
Title: Re: The Honey Badger
Post by: Robbert on May 24, 07:59 AM 2019
Or play this at the blackjack table?
Title: Re: The Honey Badger
Post by: poluvolo on May 24, 04:07 PM 2019
HI LMW
FIRSTLY THANKS  FOR SHARING YOUR METHOD
DO YOU KNOW THE WINNING RATE?
FOR EXAMPLE AFTER 100 SESSIONS HOW MANY OF THEM  ARE LOSING SESSIONS
I SUPPOSE  AFTER EACH WINNING SESSION AVERAGE PROFIT COULD BE 5 UNITS AVERAGE
CHEERS

Title: Re: The Honey Badger
Post by: Robbert on May 24, 04:11 PM 2019
Im going to play this with 18 Numbers + dealers signature software .

Will post results!
Title: Re: The Honey Badger
Post by: Robbert on May 24, 04:20 PM 2019
bump.
Title: Re: The Honey Badger
Post by: Let Me Win on May 24, 04:42 PM 2019
I can only report my results other people's results maybe different.

I always play exactly as stated.

Today I took a lady friend on the bus and paid her expenses so the total fare was £14.

We arrived at 18.30 and as the main casino restaurant doesn't open until 19.00 we had a quick go with the Honey Badger and won 3 units pretty easily.

Then we went on the balcony and had a cigarette by which time the restaurant was open.

As it is Friday there was an offer for the Fish and Chips served with peas.

We both ate that and drank lemonade which was free.

The bill came to £14 for us both and we then had another Honey Badger session.

Lady luck was again on my side as the first number spun was RED number 3

So I cashed out at once with £80 profit.

Total Honey Badger profits = £110

Total expenses food and bus tickets for two persons = £28

Returned home with a belly full of food and an extra £82 in my pocket.

Total time taken including traveling approximately 3 hours.
Title: Re: The Honey Badger
Post by: Firefox on May 24, 08:58 PM 2019
Nice wins.

That's about what I go for. If I can come away with  £50 or £100 and pay for a meal, I'm happy.
Title: Re: The Honey Badger
Post by: ludo8400 on May 25, 03:28 AM 2019
Quote from: Let Me Win on May 24, 04:42 PM 2019
I can only report my results other people's results maybe different.

I always play exactly as stated.

Today I took a lady friend on the bus and paid her expenses so the total fare was £14.

We arrived at 18.30 and as the main casino restaurant doesn't open until 19.00 we had a quick go with the Honey Badger and won 3 units pretty easily.

Then we went on the balcony and had a cigarette by which time the restaurant was open.

As it is Friday there was an offer for the Fish and Chips served with peas.

We both ate that and drank lemonade which was free.

The bill came to £14 for us both and we then had another Honey Badger session.

Lady luck was again on my side as the first number spun was RED number 3

So I cashed out at once with £80 profit.

Total Honey Badger profits = £110

Total expenses food and bus tickets for two persons = £28

Returned home with a belly full of food and an extra £82 in my pocket.

Total time taken including traveling approximately 3 hours.

@ let me win

A Nice story.
But more important
Your game is good balanced.
Good moneymanagement.
Plus 5 run away and tomorrow is other
Day.
With these  tools you can survive a gaming live.
Keep continuing and have a nice  WE

Ludo8400
Title: Re: The Honey Badger
Post by: Still on May 25, 05:43 PM 2019
Quote from: Let Me Win on May 21, 06:22 AM 2019

Here's how it works. You will bet either red or black based on the following patterns one of which has to occur...

RRR you bet R
RBR you bet R
BRR you bet R
RRB you bet R
BBB you bet B
BRB you bet B
RBB you bet B
BBR you bet B


This bet selection looks about the same as what Notto, Downtown, and Maui have been researching in their variation(s) of the Color Matrix.   If there is something to that then maybe there is something to this.  And visa versa.  If there is nothing to that...then this is all about the Mongoose progression. 
Title: Re: The Honey Badger
Post by: Firefox on May 26, 04:02 AM 2019
^
It's FTL except where last is proceeded by two different in which case, play for a change. A random selection offering no advantage but it takes the psychological pressure off bet selection if you have a set method.
Title: Re: The Honey Badger
Post by: Let Me Win on May 26, 05:26 AM 2019
BBB bet B
BRR bet B
RBR bet B
RRB bet B

RRR bet R
RBB bet R
BRB bet R
BBR bet R

These are the patterns I use.
Yes, it's true it offers no real advantage but they work well for me and as Mr Firefox said they have the advantage that I don't have to make a single decision during a session.

I'm literally playing like a human bot simply following a set of strict instructions that will protect me from myself.
Title: Re: The Honey Badger
Post by: Tekunda on May 26, 07:58 AM 2019
Could you tell us your monthly profits in units and approx. how many of your total sessions per month are loosing sessions?
Of course it's nice to learn that you have had easy sessions making £80 or more, but what good is it, if you were loosing three sessions down the road?
Title: Re: The Honey Badger
Post by: Joe on May 29, 03:41 PM 2019
The weakness of the "Mongoose" progression is that you must get at 2 wins in a row, so every time you get an extended run of results without this, you're screwed.  >:D

It happens more often than you might think, because the chance of 2 or more wins in a row is less than 25%.
Title: Re: The Honey Badger
Post by: Firefox on May 29, 08:25 PM 2019
It's a bit like the Stearn system or paroli up to 31. If you don't get two wins in a row, your capital is lost. But you get 11 shots at it, so chance of losing is only 1 in 15 or 6%. Otherwise a steady profit till your black day. Still the loss is expected and limited, so similar - controlled marty/paroli.