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Title: Lines, Pos of Lines
Post by: Blueprint on May 29, 07:24 AM 2019
For anyone who wants to play with data.  Here is a simple table.

Line   Position   Repeat
2   2   Y
5   5   
2   2   Y
4   5   
2   2   Y
6   6   
3   6   
6   2   Y
6   1   Y
4   4   
5   5   
5   1   Y
2   5   
1   6   
4   4   
5   4   Y
1   3   
5   2   Y
5   1   Y
1   2   
5   2   Y
3   6   
5   2   Y
1   3   
4   4   
2   5   
4   2   Y
4   1   Y
3   5   
2   3   
4   3   Y
5   5   
3   4   
5   2   Y
4   3   
1   5   
2   5   
1   2   Y
2   2   
6   6   
5   5   
2   3   Y
4   5   
3   6   
6   5   
3   2   Y
5   5   
2   5   
1   6   
1   1   Y
6   5   
6   1   Y
4   6   
3   6   
5   6   
4   3   Y
3   3   
3   1   Y
4   2   
1   5   
1   1   Y
2   6   
2   1   Y
5   5   
3   5   
1   4   
4   5   
3   3   Y
1   3   
2   5   
3   3   Y
2   2   
1   3   
5   5   
1   2   Y
1   1   Y
3   4   
4   5   
2   5   
4   2   Y
2   2   
1   4   
5   5   
5   1   Y
5   1   Y
1   2   
5   2   Y
5   1   Y
4   4   
4   1   Y
1   3   
6   6   
6   1   Y
4   3   
6   2   Y
5   4   
2   5   
5   2   Y
2   2   
6   3   
6   1   Y
1   5   
1   1   Y
5   4   
2   4   
6   4   
5   3   Y
4   5   
5   2   Y
4   2   
3   6   
2   5   
6   5   
4   4   Y
1   6   
1   1   Y
4   2   
5   6   
6   4   
2   5   
2   1   Y
5   3   
5   1   Y
4   4   
6   4   
5   3   Y
5   1   Y
4   3   
5   2   Y
4   2   
1   5   
2   5   
3   6   
1   3   Y
1   1   Y
5   5   
6   6   
3   4   
3   1   Y
3   1   Y
6   2   
5   3   
2   5   
3   4   Y
2   2   
2   1   Y
2   1   Y
4   6   
2   2   Y
2   1   Y
4   2   
5   4   
1   6   
3   5   
4   4   Y
3   2   
5   4   
1   4   
6   6   
5   3   Y
5   1   Y
5   1   Y
3   4   
4   5   
6   4   
2   6   
4   3   Y
1   6   
5   6   
5   1   Y
3   6   
1   3   
2   5   
3   3   Y
4   5   
1   4   
1   1   Y
1   1   Y
5   5   
3   4   
5   2   Y
5   1   Y
2   5   
1   4   
4   5   
1   2   Y
5   4   
3   5   
6   6   
1   4   Y
4   5   
1   2   Y
2   6   
4   3   
2   2   Y
1   3   
4   3   
6   4   
4   2   Y
5   6   
2   5   
3   6   
5   3   Y
5   1   Y
5   1   Y
5   1   Y
2   3   
3   3   
4   4   
4   1   Y
1   6   
4   2   Y
1   2   
6   6   
5   6   
2   6   
2   1   Y
2   1   Y
5   2   
2   2   Y
5   2   
2   2   Y
3   6   
2   2   Y
3   2   
2   2   Y
2   1   Y
1   5   
2   2   Y
1   2   
1   1   Y
4   6   
3   4   
4   2   Y
1   3   
3   3   
2   4   
1   3   Y
4   4   
5   5   
1   3   Y
6   6   
6   1   Y
2   5   
5   4   
3   6   
2   3   Y
5   3   
2   2   Y
2   1   Y
3   3   
6   4   
6   1   Y
5   4   
2   4   
2   1   Y
4   6   
5   3   
3   5   
5   2   Y
6   5   
4   4   
6   2   Y
4   2   
3   4   
4   2   Y
3   2   
1   6   
6   4   
1   2   Y
5   5   
1   2   Y
5   2   
5   1   Y
5   1   Y
2   6   
6   4   
4   6   
4   1   Y
4   1   Y
5   4   
2   4   
5   2   Y
6   4   
4   4   
2   4   
6   3   Y
6   1   Y
6   1   Y
6   1   Y
4   3   
4   1   Y
4   1   Y
5   4   
4   2   Y
3   6   
6   4   
5   4   
6   2   Y
2   5   
5   3   
2   2   Y
1   6   
4   6   
4   1   Y
3   6   
5   5   
3   2   Y
2   5   
2   1   Y
6   6   
6   1   Y
1   6   
6   2   Y
2   3   
1   3   
4   6   
1   2   Y
2   3   
2   1   Y
6   4   
6   1   Y
3   5   
1   4   
6   3   Y
5   6   
6   2   Y
1   3   
3   4   
4   6   
3   2   Y
3   1   Y
5   5   
5   1   Y
5   1   Y
4   3   
1   4   
3   4   
1   2   Y
1   1   Y
4   3   
4   1   Y
5   4   
4   2   Y
3   4   
3   1   Y
6   5   
1   5   
4   4   
1   2   Y
4   2   
5   5   
5   1   Y
3   5   
6   5   
3   2   Y
2   6   
2   1   Y
5   4   
6   4   
6   1   Y
4   5   
2   4   
3   5   
2   2   Y
3   2   
4   3   
1   6   
4   2   Y
6   5   
3   4   
3   1   Y
5   6   
6   3   
3   3   Y
3   1   Y
6   2   
3   2   Y
3   1   Y
1   5   
5   4   
5   1   Y
6   4   
5   2   Y
5   1   Y
1   3   
5   2   Y
5   1   Y
6   3   
5   2   Y
5   1   Y
6   2   
2   6   
2   1   Y
2   1   Y
3   5   
1   5   
3   2   Y
2   3   
6   4   
3   3   Y
2   3   
5   5   
6   4   
6   1   Y
1   5   
2   4   
6   3   Y
1   3   
3   5   
1   2   Y
1   1   Y
2   4   
3   3   
1   3   Y
1   1   Y
1   1   Y
4   6   
3   3   
5   6   
1   4   Y
5   2   
4   4   
4   1   Y
4   1   Y
6   6   
1   4   
6   2   Y
6   1   Y
3   5   
3   1   Y
6   2   
1   3   
4   4   
1   2   Y
1   1   Y
2   6   
3   5   
6   5   
1   4   Y
5   6   
6   3   
3   4   
4   6   
3   2   Y
1   5   
2   6   
6   5   
1   3   Y
6   2   
1   2   Y
3   4   
6   3   
3   2   Y
5   6   
4   6   
3   3   Y
3   1   Y
5   3   
3   2   Y
5   2   
6   4   
2   6   
2   1   Y
3   4   
5   4   
5   1   Y
1   6   
5   2   Y
2   4   
6   5   
4   6   
2   3   Y
5   4   
5   1   Y
5   1   Y
5   1   Y
1   5   
3   6   
5   3   Y
2   4   
1   4   
1   1   Y
2   2   
1   2   Y
5   3   
4   5   
2   4   
1   4   Y
4   3   
6   6   
1   3   Y
3   6   
6   3   
6   1   Y
2   5   
4   5   
3   4   
2   3   Y
Title: Re: Lines, Pos of Lines
Post by: ludo8400 on May 29, 07:50 AM 2019
@ blueprint

What does the "Y"  after the position.
What's the sense of this permanenze.

;)
ludo8400
Title: Re: Lines, Pos of Lines
Post by: Blueprint on May 29, 08:13 AM 2019
Quote from: ludo8400 on May 29, 07:50 AM 2019What does the "Y"  after the position.

Y is in the Repeat column.  "Y" = Yes.
Title: Re: Lines, Pos of Lines
Post by: Person S on May 29, 09:52 AM 2019
It can be seen that the defining likes to repeat
Title: Re: Lines, Pos of Lines
Post by: Person S on May 29, 01:15 PM 2019
I think I understand this is called a process. Flow of lines in two streams, I see here some tendencies how many lines do you cover, always one?
All the same, it is difficult to imagine the process, and really understand how it can benefit us ...
Title: Re: Lines, Pos of Lines
Post by: ludo8400 on May 29, 01:46 PM 2019
@bleuprint

You play 2 double lines

1. The double line itself
2. the position of the double line

Am I correct?  :)

Ludo8400
Title: Re: Lines, Pos of Lines
Post by: Loc on May 29, 01:46 PM 2019
What kind of data is this and where can i use it?
Title: Re: Lines, Pos of Lines
Post by: 6th-sense on May 29, 02:10 PM 2019
Quote from: Blueprint on May 29, 07:24 AM 2019
For anyone who wants to play with data.  Here is a simple table.

Line   Position   Repeat
2   2   Y
5   5   
2   2   Y
4   5   
2   2   Y
6   6   
3   6   
6   2   Y
6   1   Y
4   4   
5   5   
5   1   Y
2   5   
1   6   
4   4   
5   4   Y
1   3   
5   2   Y
5   1   Y
1   2   
5   2   Y
3   6   
5   2   Y
1   3   
4   4   
2   5   
4   2   Y
4   1   Y
3   5   
2   3   
4   3   Y
5   5   
3   4   
5   2   Y
4   3   
1   5   
2   5   
1   2   Y
2   2   
6   6   
5   5   
2   3   Y
4   5   
3   6   
6   5   
3   2   Y
5   5   
2   5   
1   6   
1   1   Y
6   5   
6   1   Y
4   6   
3   6   
5   6   
4   3   Y
3   3   
3   1   Y
4   2   
1   5   
1   1   Y
2   6   
2   1   Y
5   5   
3   5   
1   4   
4   5   
3   3   Y
1   3   
2   5   
3   3   Y
2   2   
1   3   
5   5   
1   2   Y
1   1   Y
3   4   
4   5   
2   5   
4   2   Y
2   2   
1   4   
5   5   
5   1   Y
5   1   Y
1   2   
5   2   Y
5   1   Y
4   4   
4   1   Y
1   3   
6   6   
6   1   Y
4   3   
6   2   Y
5   4   
2   5   
5   2   Y
2   2   
6   3   
6   1   Y
1   5   
1   1   Y
5   4   
2   4   
6   4   
5   3   Y
4   5   
5   2   Y
4   2   
3   6   
2   5   
6   5   
4   4   Y
1   6   
1   1   Y
4   2   
5   6   
6   4   
2   5   
2   1   Y
5   3   
5   1   Y
4   4   
6   4   
5   3   Y
5   1   Y
4   3   
5   2   Y
4   2   
1   5   
2   5   
3   6   
1   3   Y
1   1   Y
5   5   
6   6   
3   4   
3   1   Y
3   1   Y
6   2   
5   3   
2   5   
3   4   Y
2   2   
2   1   Y
2   1   Y
4   6   
2   2   Y
2   1   Y
4   2   
5   4   
1   6   
3   5   
4   4   Y
3   2   
5   4   
1   4   
6   6   
5   3   Y
5   1   Y
5   1   Y
3   4   
4   5   
6   4   
2   6   
4   3   Y
1   6   
5   6   
5   1   Y
3   6   
1   3   
2   5   
3   3   Y
4   5   
1   4   
1   1   Y
1   1   Y
5   5   
3   4   
5   2   Y
5   1   Y
2   5   
1   4   
4   5   
1   2   Y
5   4   
3   5   
6   6   
1   4   Y
4   5   
1   2   Y
2   6   
4   3   
2   2   Y
1   3   
4   3   
6   4   
4   2   Y
5   6   
2   5   
3   6   
5   3   Y
5   1   Y
5   1   Y
5   1   Y
2   3   
3   3   
4   4   
4   1   Y
1   6   
4   2   Y
1   2   
6   6   
5   6   
2   6   
2   1   Y
2   1   Y
5   2   
2   2   Y
5   2   
2   2   Y
3   6   
2   2   Y
3   2   
2   2   Y
2   1   Y
1   5   
2   2   Y
1   2   
1   1   Y
4   6   
3   4   
4   2   Y
1   3   
3   3   
2   4   
1   3   Y
4   4   
5   5   
1   3   Y
6   6   
6   1   Y
2   5   
5   4   
3   6   
2   3   Y
5   3   
2   2   Y
2   1   Y
3   3   
6   4   
6   1   Y
5   4   
2   4   
2   1   Y
4   6   
5   3   
3   5   
5   2   Y
6   5   
4   4   
6   2   Y
4   2   
3   4   
4   2   Y
3   2   
1   6   
6   4   
1   2   Y
5   5   
1   2   Y
5   2   
5   1   Y
5   1   Y
2   6   
6   4   
4   6   
4   1   Y
4   1   Y
5   4   
2   4   
5   2   Y
6   4   
4   4   
2   4   
6   3   Y
6   1   Y
6   1   Y
6   1   Y
4   3   
4   1   Y
4   1   Y
5   4   
4   2   Y
3   6   
6   4   
5   4   
6   2   Y
2   5   
5   3   
2   2   Y
1   6   
4   6   
4   1   Y
3   6   
5   5   
3   2   Y
2   5   
2   1   Y
6   6   
6   1   Y
1   6   
6   2   Y
2   3   
1   3   
4   6   
1   2   Y
2   3   
2   1   Y
6   4   
6   1   Y
3   5   
1   4   
6   3   Y
5   6   
6   2   Y
1   3   
3   4   
4   6   
3   2   Y
3   1   Y
5   5   
5   1   Y
5   1   Y
4   3   
1   4   
3   4   
1   2   Y
1   1   Y
4   3   
4   1   Y
5   4   
4   2   Y
3   4   
3   1   Y
6   5   
1   5   
4   4   
1   2   Y
4   2   
5   5   
5   1   Y
3   5   
6   5   
3   2   Y
2   6   
2   1   Y
5   4   
6   4   
6   1   Y
4   5   
2   4   
3   5   
2   2   Y
3   2   
4   3   
1   6   
4   2   Y
6   5   
3   4   
3   1   Y
5   6   
6   3   
3   3   Y
3   1   Y
6   2   
3   2   Y
3   1   Y
1   5   
5   4   
5   1   Y
6   4   
5   2   Y
5   1   Y
1   3   
5   2   Y
5   1   Y
6   3   
5   2   Y
5   1   Y
6   2   
2   6   
2   1   Y
2   1   Y
3   5   
1   5   
3   2   Y
2   3   
6   4   
3   3   Y
2   3   
5   5   
6   4   
6   1   Y
1   5   
2   4   
6   3   Y
1   3   
3   5   
1   2   Y
1   1   Y
2   4   
3   3   
1   3   Y
1   1   Y
1   1   Y
4   6   
3   3   
5   6   
1   4   Y
5   2   
4   4   
4   1   Y
4   1   Y
6   6   
1   4   
6   2   Y
6   1   Y
3   5   
3   1   Y
6   2   
1   3   
4   4   
1   2   Y
1   1   Y
2   6   
3   5   
6   5   
1   4   Y
5   6   
6   3   
3   4   
4   6   
3   2   Y
1   5   
2   6   
6   5   
1   3   Y
6   2   
1   2   Y
3   4   
6   3   
3   2   Y
5   6   
4   6   
3   3   Y
3   1   Y
5   3   
3   2   Y
5   2   
6   4   
2   6   
2   1   Y
3   4   
5   4   
5   1   Y
1   6   
5   2   Y
2   4   
6   5   
4   6   
2   3   Y
5   4   
5   1   Y
5   1   Y
5   1   Y
1   5   
3   6   
5   3   Y
2   4   
1   4   
1   1   Y
2   2   
1   2   Y
5   3   
4   5   
2   4   
1   4   Y
4   3   
6   6   
1   3   Y
3   6   
6   3   
6   1   Y
2   5   
4   5   
3   4   
2   3   Y

is the top the start or bottom?
ie 1st result.
Title: Re: Lines, Pos of Lines
Post by: 6th-sense on May 29, 02:11 PM 2019
when i know that i.ll check it out..obviousley to used with the double streams tracker
Title: Re: Lines, Pos of Lines
Post by: 6th-sense on May 29, 02:17 PM 2019
might be a bit much to ask but do you have or could you give the example with numbers themselves?
or a new set with the numbers
Title: Re: Lines, Pos of Lines
Post by: Person S on May 29, 02:18 PM 2019
What concept do you want us to take?
Title: Re: Lines, Pos of Lines
Post by: 6th-sense on May 29, 02:29 PM 2019
that streams are related on dependency ...rrbb double streams tracker
Title: Re: Lines, Pos of Lines
Post by: Person S on May 29, 02:45 PM 2019
beautiful,we need to liberate the consciousness and penetrate into the place where dependence arises.
6-sense And what do the white numbers between the columns mean?
Title: Re: Lines, Pos of Lines
Post by: Person S on May 29, 02:51 PM 2019
Beautiful tracker :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Lines, Pos of Lines
Post by: Person S on May 29, 02:54 PM 2019
Quote from: Person S on May 29, 02:45 PM 2019
beautiful,we need to liberate the consciousness and penetrate into the place where dependence arises.
6-sense And what do the white numbers between the columns mean?
Understood, this is the length of the cycle!
Title: Re: Lines, Pos of Lines
Post by: 6th-sense on May 29, 02:58 PM 2019
correct..the length of the finish of cycles in both streams..though don,t know if thats helpful..
Title: Re: Lines, Pos of Lines
Post by: ludo8400 on May 29, 03:11 PM 2019
A excel file will hellps.

;D
ludo8400
Title: Re: Lines, Pos of Lines
Post by: Person S on May 29, 03:59 PM 2019
Quote from: ludo8400 on May 29, 03:11 PM 2019
A excel file will hellps.

;D
ludo8400
I did not quite understand.
What are the characteristics of these blocks?
Title: Re: Lines, Pos of Lines
Post by: Irish88 on May 29, 04:03 PM 2019
I have been having trouble understanding what streaming and position means when it comes to this. I always have. I am really trying. Is it about the last 2 unhit lines that have not appeared?
Title: Re: Lines, Pos of Lines
Post by: Person S on May 29, 04:11 PM 2019
Quote from: Irish88 on May 29, 04:03 PM 2019
I have been having trouble understanding what streaming and position means when it comes to this. I always have. I am really trying. Is it about the last 2 unhit lines that have not appeared?
The flow is random - these are roulette numbers.
Position is a dynamic flow.
Details here.
link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=17115.0
Title: Re: Lines, Pos of Lines
Post by: 6th-sense on May 29, 04:19 PM 2019
Ok blueprint..numbers are not needed ..if I’m reading this right ..
Are you stopping in profit at the end of the the winning bet ? As far as I gather it’s stopping and resetting at the different points of the finish ie win looks like it...then waiting again for either side of stream to bet again ...I’m being cryptic here ..and is it a one spin bet at the end of that collected data of lines
Title: Re: Lines, Pos of Lines
Post by: 6th-sense on May 29, 04:37 PM 2019
Ok not so cryptic now ..left side is the repeat of stream then you mark Y that’s the easy part it’s how you use the right side ..only way is bet against both lines on that repeat..but does it include the missing numbers themselves or other part of the streams tracker not to bet on too?
Title: Re: Lines, Pos of Lines
Post by: Irish88 on May 29, 05:18 PM 2019
Quote from: Person S on May 29, 04:11 PM 2019
The flow is random - these are roulette numbers.
Position is a dynamic flow.
Details here.
link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=17115.0

Thank you Person S

I have tried to understand that thread as well. I understand you are put the number line in front of the stream. If 7 comes out that is line 2. If 20 comes out that is line 4. So now the stream is 42 correct? How do you use this information to bet? How do you decide which line to bet on? What is it? One of the lines has to hit 3 times in 13 spins? Is that the logic behind all this?
Title: Re: Lines, Pos of Lines
Post by: Person S on May 29, 06:37 PM 2019
So take your example came DS 42, this is a stream of roulette. The next stage, we follow the rrbb recipe and create positions.
Look
4 412356 4
2 241356 3
So it works, how to apply?
We will hope that the blueprint will give us a little understanding so that we can move on.
I think the main goal, to collect this puzzle. Here you need to be very attentive.
Perhaps all this is a big joke, and it is not known what we will come to ...
They do not give an exact recipe, and I understand them, they are probably kidding, and this is also understandable. But the main goal is discipline.
Title: Re: Lines, Pos of Lines
Post by: Irish88 on May 29, 10:00 PM 2019
Quote from: Person S on May 29, 06:37 PM 2019
So take your example came DS 42, this is a stream of roulette. The next stage, we follow the rrbb recipe and create positions.
Look
4 412356 4
2 241356 3
So it works, how to apply?
We will hope that the blueprint will give us a little understanding so that we can move on.
I think the main goal, to collect this puzzle. Here you need to be very attentive.
Perhaps all this is a big joke, and it is not known what we will come to ...
They do not give an exact recipe, and I understand them, they are probably kidding, and this is also understandable. But the main goal is discipline.

Person,

Thank you very much. That is very helpful. I get the first stream 412356 4

Then the second 241356 3 dumb question...why is the 3 last instead of the 2? The 2 is the one that hit.

Thank you again.
Title: Re: Lines, Pos of Lines
Post by: ludo8400 on May 30, 02:29 AM 2019
@ all

Here you have the positio and the next double line

in Excel

:)
ludo8400
Title: Re: Lines, Pos of Lines
Post by: klw on May 30, 05:10 AM 2019
I don't have much time.

The position of a hit refers to how far back a line was hit IN ORDER OF APPEARANCE . So for example if line 4 in the left column does a repeat its position is recorded as 1 because it was the most recent line in order of appearance. If for example line 3 has not hit for ages and all the other lines have hit since line 3 last appeared , then line 3 hits , its position will be recorded as position number 6 .

In this sequence of the left column

Last spin on left       4 4 3 5 6 1 2

If next line to hit is 3 , its position will be recorded as 2 ( line 4 is position number 1 , line 3 is position number 2 )

You should be able to work out the rest by yourselves.

Ludo has highlighted line 5 hits and position 5 hits as something to study. I don't see it personally , position hits are still random. Maybe someone else sees something I don't.

None of this is new. The great know when to quit did all this on VLS forum years ago. I studied it then and couldn't find an edge there either but I'm not as good as he was.
Title: Re: Lines, Pos of Lines
Post by: redhot on May 30, 06:12 AM 2019
Look at where the repeats land in the second stream.

There are 195 repeats in the example, 187 of them are on the derived "low" (<4)

95%
Title: Re: Lines, Pos of Lines
Post by: 6th-sense on May 30, 06:59 AM 2019
And with that conclusion is it tied with number repeats?
Title: Re: Lines, Pos of Lines
Post by: 6th-sense on May 30, 07:35 AM 2019
Or is the other option simpler..keeping an eye on what ds is moving into the derived low positions ? But again it’s how to sync it for the repeat before it happens..the percentage is high after the fact but the problem is the spins beforehand with no repeat..
Title: Re: Lines, Pos of Lines
Post by: Person S on May 30, 09:17 AM 2019
Quote from: Irish88 on May 29, 10:00 PM 2019
Person,

Thank you very much. That is very helpful. I get the first stream 412356 4

Then the second 241356 3 dumb question...why is the 3 last instead of the 2? The 2 is the one that hit.

Thank you again.

Because 2 is in position 3.
A parallel flow is a position.
Here is an example.
6 612345 - was in position 6, we write 6.
6 612345 6
Next number 3 - look at what position is now 3?
Read rrbb several times and you will understand the algorithm!
Title: Re: Lines, Pos of Lines
Post by: Person S on May 30, 09:21 AM 2019
Quote from: redhot on May 30, 06:12 AM 2019
Look at where the repeats land in the second stream.

There are 195 repeats in the example, 187 of them are on the derived "low" (<4)

95%

Do you think Red, it makes sense to skip the set if the replay did not come?
Title: Re: Lines, Pos of Lines
Post by: redhot on May 30, 10:10 AM 2019
Quote from: 6th-sense on May 30, 07:35 AM 2019
Or is the other option simpler..keeping an eye on what ds is moving into the derived low positions ? But again it’s how to sync it for the repeat before it happens..the percentage is high after the fact but the problem is the spins beforehand with no repeat..

This is the problem, we know 'where' the repeat will happen but we don't know 'when'

So we would need to bet the derived low on each spin to catch the repeat - but this can't work, there will be times where the uniques are hitting (the derived high) and we'll lose.

So we need to cover both, but that can't work either, we can't bet on the derived high and the derived low at the same time and cover all options.

We need to eliminate some options then and find a reason to bet some of the derived high and some of the derived low.

Any ideas on how to do this?
Title: Re: Lines, Pos of Lines
Post by: 6th-sense on May 30, 10:16 AM 2019
Quote from: redhot on May 30, 10:10 AM 2019
This is the problem, we know 'where' the repeat will happen but we don't know 'when'

So we would need to bet the derived low on each spin to catch the repeat - but this can't work, there will be times where the uniques are hitting (the derived high) and we'll lose.

So we need to cover both, but that can't work either, we can't bet on the derived high and the derived low at the same time and cover all options.

We need to eliminate some options then and find a reason to bet some of the derived high and some of the derived low.

Any ideas on how to do this?

First idea off the top of my head is it begins and ends in normal cycle..only the ds or ds,s out in normal stream would be bet for a repeat if they are in the derived low stream
Title: Re: Lines, Pos of Lines
Post by: Blueprint on May 30, 11:54 AM 2019
What is it you're trying to achieve with this data?
Title: Re: Lines, Pos of Lines
Post by: Person S on May 30, 12:16 PM 2019
My idea is that we switch between the main stream and the positions.
We do not play them together at the same time. There must be a switch, so we are going with the flow.
Whether it can create a slope is not visible yet * (
Title: Re: Lines, Pos of Lines
Post by: 6th-sense on May 30, 12:27 PM 2019
Quote from: Blueprint on May 30, 11:54 AM 2019
What is it you're trying to achieve with this data?

The high percentage of what redhot showed ..just seeing if there is an advantage using it..or a way to use it ..quads look similar too ..always fascinated me the streams tracker
Title: Re: Lines, Pos of Lines
Post by: Irish88 on May 30, 12:36 PM 2019
Quote from: Person S on May 30, 09:17 AM 2019
Because 2 is in position 3.
A parallel flow is a position.
Here is an example.
6 612345 - was in position 6, we write 6.
6 612345 6
Next number 3 - look at what position is now 3?
Read rrbb several times and you will understand the algorithm!

Ok I got it now. Thanks very much for your help. Much appreciated. Is the point to bet on the lines from the first half of the stream because they have the highest likelihood of repeating?
Title: Re: Lines, Pos of Lines
Post by: Blueprint on May 30, 12:44 PM 2019
Quote from: 6th-sense on May 30, 12:27 PM 2019
The high percentage of what redhot showed ..just seeing if there is an advantage using it..or a way to use it ..quads look similar too ..always fascinated me the streams tracker

It’s versatile and applies to all partitions.
Title: Re: Lines, Pos of Lines
Post by: 6th-sense on May 30, 12:51 PM 2019
thankyou blueprint you are right..i see it on the tracker
Title: Re: Lines, Pos of Lines
Post by: Blood Angel on May 30, 01:29 PM 2019
Quote from: 6th-sense on May 30, 12:51 PM 2019
..i see it on the tracker

Is the tracker available somewhere to download?
Title: Re: Lines, Pos of Lines
Post by: Person S on May 30, 01:31 PM 2019
Position is a brother of random flow. About, the position!
Open your secret doors before us, we see that repetitions come from above, but they also look exactly the same in a random stream. Where are we going... ^-^
Title: Re: Lines, Pos of Lines
Post by: Person S on May 30, 01:32 PM 2019
Sorry I have no answer ...
Title: Re: Lines, Pos of Lines
Post by: Blueprint on May 30, 02:42 PM 2019
Quote from: Person S on May 30, 01:32 PM 2019
Sorry I have no answer ...

The problem is you think there is one.
Title: Re: Lines, Pos of Lines
Post by: Person S on May 30, 03:35 PM 2019
I wanted to show you something, maybe this analogy will be inappropriate, but I will try.
The fact that we fight this edge is 2.7%.
It seems crazy to cope with this advantage, but, for example, if we take a poker game and see how much the strongest hand has against the weakest one. This figure of 2.7% in itself seems insignificant, but even here we need a strategy on how to cope with all this.
Probably good roulette players understand this and can draw conclusions from what is happening. And in time to switch gears. Yes, you say there is a post-flop, and there are different situations. But simply if you make a projection from the edge of the house to the edge of poker there is a difference.
This is not a challenge, but just want to show.
AA has an advantage of 93%.
Title: Re: Lines, Pos of Lines
Post by: Person S on May 30, 03:36 PM 2019
I do not need a 100% answer, I have enough gray fog 8)
Title: Re: Lines, Pos of Lines
Post by: Blueprint on May 30, 08:06 PM 2019
Another set of data. 
Title: Re: Lines, Pos of Lines
Post by: Person S on May 31, 11:27 AM 2019
Thanks for sharing.
Is there anything in this sheet that is not marked? Do we need this analysis?
Title: Re: Lines, Pos of Lines
Post by: redhot on May 31, 11:40 AM 2019
Quote from: Person S on May 31, 11:27 AM 2019
Thanks for sharing.
Is there anything in this sheet that is not marked? Do we need this analysis?

There are 69 repeats in the streets stream, if you look at where they land in the derived straight stream there are 44 in the derived low.

63% of street repeats fall in the derived low of the straights stream (positions 1 - 18).

Can we use this to combine the positions and formulate a bet?
Title: Re: Lines, Pos of Lines
Post by: Person S on May 31, 12:01 PM 2019
I don't know, but I guess we need to look for a transition from the streets to the numbers.
Also on this sheet are not marked repetition of positions, it must be somehow connected, you need to open the mind and carefully consider everything.
What we are trying to look for is how to unite the two derivative streams, did you mean Redhot?
Title: Re: Lines, Pos of Lines
Post by: redhot on May 31, 12:09 PM 2019
Quote from: Person S on May 31, 12:01 PM 2019
I don't know, but I guess we need to look for a transition from the streets to the numbers.
Also on this sheet are not marked repetition of positions, it must be somehow connected, you need to open the mind and carefully consider everything.
What we are trying to look for is how to unite the two derivative streams, did you mean Redhot?

Yes, we need to create dependence
Title: Re: Lines, Pos of Lines
Post by: Blueprint on May 31, 12:48 PM 2019
There is dependency... and I will leave it at that.

Title: Re: Lines, Pos of Lines
Post by: 6th-sense on May 31, 01:19 PM 2019
the basics of the puzzle is there ..
The stats show this but still you don’t know when that repeat will happen ..you can definitely get hits from derived low but not enough becouse if the repeats that turn into derived low keep coming making the losses ..
I would presume positions of other parts apart from these two may come into play to narrow the selection down to bet on less .if they are hit before hand or repeated ..but again that’s off the top of my head

Title: Re: Lines, Pos of Lines
Post by: Person S on May 31, 04:25 PM 2019
Recently, I have a light alcohol dependence.
Can I clarify a bit - does a dependency create only one thread?
Title: Re: Lines, Pos of Lines
Post by: MoneyT101 on May 31, 07:08 PM 2019
You can tell when you’re doing something right.  Also when you’re doing something that is leading to new information and it feels like you’re getting closer to understanding it.

No need to keep posting in the forum about it. 

Especially when someone is just posting trying to get information out of you cause they can’t figure it out themselves
Title: Re: Lines, Pos of Lines
Post by: MoneyT101 on May 31, 07:10 PM 2019
So you figured out where there is dependence!!!

SO WHAT?!!

What’s the play?  Don’t post it here!  Go and work it out!
Title: Re: Lines, Pos of Lines
Post by: Blueprint on May 31, 08:31 PM 2019
Quote from: MoneyT101 on May 31, 07:08 PM 2019
You can tell when you’re doing something right.  Also when you’re doing something that is leading to new information and it feels like you’re getting closer to understanding it.

No need to keep posting in the forum about it. 

Especially when someone is just posting trying to get information out of you cause they can’t figure it out themselves

Who died and made you boss?  I’ll post whatever the hell I want.  You, Pri and Redd can keep living in insecurity and fear that someone is going to take something from you. 

Next up will be talking about 6 uniques and min 3 friends. 

Title: Re: Lines, Pos of Lines
Post by: MoneyT101 on May 31, 08:35 PM 2019
Quote from: Blueprint on May 31, 08:31 PM 2019
Who died and made you boss?  I’ll post whatever the hell I want.  You, Pri and Redd can keep living in insecurity and fear that someone is going to take something from you. 

Next up will be talking about 6 uniques and min 3 friends.

Haha im glad youre taking credit for my comment but it’s not to you.  Redhot is posting more valuable information than you are

Youre just sharing other ppl work still stuck trying to get info out of everyone else. 

Think for yourself!
Title: Re: Lines, Pos of Lines
Post by: Blueprint on May 31, 08:38 PM 2019
Quote from: MoneyT101 on May 31, 08:35 PM 2019
Haha im glad youre taking credit for my comment but it’s not to you.  Redhot is posting more valuable information than you are

Youre just sharing other ppl work still stuck trying to get info out of everyone else. 

Think for yourself!

I actually like redhot and have helped him as I have you.  Now, cut the high and mighty bs.
Title: Re: Lines, Pos of Lines
Post by: Blueprint on May 31, 08:40 PM 2019
And now we are back to the MoneyT show.  He can take it from here with his nonsense riddles.
Title: Re: Lines, Pos of Lines
Post by: Person S on Jun 01, 07:03 AM 2019
Wow you have an ego Money, rewind time ago, you were just as curious and those people did not deny you answers. And then you try to shut everyone up.
Title: Re: Lines, Pos of Lines
Post by: 6th-sense on Jun 01, 03:17 PM 2019
The problem here is that tracker redhot it’s showing the normal position of ds  and the position it was in when it was hit...it’s not showing it’s true position as it’s moving I want you to think about that..
Title: Re: Lines, Pos of Lines
Post by: MoneyT101 on Jun 01, 03:44 PM 2019
Quote from: Person S on Jun 01, 07:03 AM 2019
Wow you have an ego Money, rewind time ago, you were just as curious and those people did not deny you answers. And then you try to shut everyone up.

Speak from experience not from ignorance

My understanding came from working on things on my own with all the information you have on this forum!
Title: Re: Lines, Pos of Lines
Post by: MoneyT101 on Jun 01, 03:46 PM 2019
Quote from: Blueprint on May 31, 08:40 PM 2019
And now we are back to the MoneyT show.  He can take it from here with his nonsense riddles.

No riddles.. I have nothing else to share with anyone.

Last few post of mine I shared FACTS

Do with that info what you please....
Title: Re: Lines, Pos of Lines
Post by: Blueprint on Jun 01, 05:30 PM 2019
At least you admit you have helped no one but yourself.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Lines, Pos of Lines
Post by: mickavelli on Jun 01, 09:20 PM 2019
Quote from: Blueprint on May 31, 08:31 PM 2019Next up will be talking about 6 uniques and min 3 friends.
Interesting, care to elaborate?
Title: Re: Lines, Pos of Lines
Post by: ati on Jun 02, 05:33 AM 2019
Quote from: mickavelli on Jun 01, 09:20 PM 2019
Interesting, care to elaborate?
link:s://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theorem_on_friends_and_strangers

Translate it to six double streets. Repeats or uniques.
Title: Re: Lines, Pos of Lines
Post by: Blueprint on Jun 03, 06:42 AM 2019
When do I have (6 uniques AND minimal 3 friends) OR (repeats and minimal 3 friends)?

That's all, folks. 

Good luck all. 
Title: Re: Lines, Pos of Lines
Post by: mickavelli on Jun 03, 09:59 AM 2019
Quote from: Blueprint on Jun 03, 06:42 AM 2019
When do I have (6 uniques AND minimal 3 friends) OR (repeats and minimal 3 friends)?

That's all, folks. 

Good luck all.

When you create pairs
Title: Re: Lines, Pos of Lines
Post by: ati on Jun 03, 11:13 AM 2019
First we need to define what can be "friends" in roulette. In the mathematical theorem 3 friends are all connected to each other.
Title: Re: Lines, Pos of Lines
Post by: MoneyT101 on Jun 03, 11:50 AM 2019
 :-\
Quote from: Blueprint on Jun 03, 06:42 AM 2019
When do I have (6 uniques AND minimal 3 friends) OR (repeats and minimal 3 friends)?

That's all, folks. 

Good luck all.

I’m pretty confident you don’t know the answer to that to this day!

Be brutally honest... let everyone know your just fishing for information 😂

I never figured out this riddle, I’ve some ideas That I haven’t investigated on it...

But I recall you asked me about it like 4 years ago when we first started exchanging emails .


So blueprint, do you know the answer? Or are you fishing for the info from others as usual?
Title: Re: Lines, Pos of Lines
Post by: Person S on Jun 03, 12:21 PM 2019
Quote from: ati on Jun 03, 11:13 AM 2019
First we need to define what can be "friends" in roulette. In the mathematical theorem 3 friends are all connected to each other.
High / Low, Even / Odd. Maybe...
Title: Re: Lines, Pos of Lines
Post by: Rajesh on Jun 03, 02:55 PM 2019
I believe blueprint has winning method and he already shared and so is the answer..
Thanks blueprint.. Let everyone work and find answers for themselves. Ingredients are provided...I beleive
After all the work...we don't want casinos to change rules or totally remove roulette forever
MoneyT is worried about this happening.....i Guess
As far I know about roulette...answers are in many threads...Vaddi, Turbo, Out of Box, Priyanka, dykseclic, PHP, RRBB
Request for Everyone: Don't post straight answer on open forum
Title: Re: Lines, Pos of Lines
Post by: Irish88 on Jun 03, 04:06 PM 2019
How do you handle the zero when it appears? Is it part of the stream or ignored? Does the number in position 4 drop to 5 if the zero appears?
Title: Re: Lines, Pos of Lines
Post by: mickavelli on Jun 04, 12:15 AM 2019
Quote from: MoneyT101 on Jun 03, 11:50 AM 2019
:-\
I’m pretty confident you don’t know the answer to that to this day!

Be brutally honest... let everyone know your just fishing for information 😂

I never figured out this riddle, I’ve some ideas That I haven’t investigated on it...

But I recall you asked me about it like 4 years ago when we first started exchanging emails .


So blueprint, do you know the answer? Or are you fishing for the info from others as usual?

Where can one find said riddle??
Title: Re: Lines, Pos of Lines
Post by: Herby on Jun 04, 03:11 AM 2019
Quote from: mickavelli on Jun 04, 12:15 AM 2019Where can one find said riddle??
Look at ati's link above: link:s://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theorem_on_friends_and_strangers (link:s://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theorem_on_friends_and_strangers)
Title: Re: Lines, Pos of Lines
Post by: Person S on Jun 04, 09:32 AM 2019
In 6 double lines, 3 even / 3 odd, 3 high / 3 low, it looks like three friends ...
Title: Re: Lines, Pos of Lines
Post by: mickavelli on Jun 22, 05:57 AM 2019
6 uniques minimum 3 friends question is based around the number 9 not 6 -  for anyone going fishing  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Lines, Pos of Lines
Post by: Herby on Jun 23, 03:00 AM 2019
Quote from: mickavelli on Jun 22, 05:57 AM 2019based around the number 9 not 6
Hi mickavelli,
How do you see number 9 to be important ?