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Title: Physic roulette
Post by: Winner on Jun 16, 07:52 PM 2019
Ok boys here it is . Prove that physics works .
Title: Re: Physic roulette
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Jun 16, 08:44 PM 2019
Ok, I'll start it.

From what I have read about physics in Roulette, the emphasis is on the decision
before last outcome-the opposite side of the wheel (19 pockets clockwise)

It should consistently hit (more than not) one of the
five sector numbers.  Otherwise that casino is cheating.

Example: 2,13 (newest spin-value)

Nineteen clockwise pockets from #2 (European Wheel)-#14

So the next bet (physicswise would be 1,20,14,31,9 once:  1.) 0(x)

Marquee
0 (newest outcome)
13
2

Count 19 pockets from #13 (number seven)

Bet 18,29,7,28,12....
Title: Re: Physic roulette
Post by: Anastasius on Jun 16, 10:54 PM 2019
Why should it consistantly hit the opposite of the second last number or they are cheating?  I thought every spin  is random and independent  1/37
Title: Re: Physic roulette
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Jun 16, 11:27 PM 2019
I'm passing along info I read.

Title: Re: Physic roulette
Post by: Steve on Jun 17, 12:56 AM 2019
Quote from: Winner on Jun 16, 07:52 PM 2019
Ok boys here it is . Prove that physics works .

Why do you think the ball lands where it does? Voodoo?
Title: Re: Physic roulette
Post by: The General on Jun 17, 01:11 AM 2019
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Title: Re: Physic roulette
Post by: Steve on Jun 17, 01:37 AM 2019
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Title: Re: Physic roulette
Post by: Winner on Jun 17, 07:46 AM 2019
Quote from: Steve on Jun 17, 12:56 AM 2019
Why do you think the ball lands where it does? Voodoo?
Prove it  show the world all the money you can make you haven’t  proved nothing .
Title: Re: Physic roulette
Post by: Winner on Jun 17, 07:48 AM 2019
Quote from: The General on Jun 17, 01:11 AM 2019
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Then there’s Einstein. Prove that you make  money show the world how you do it .
Title: Re: Physic roulette
Post by: Winner on Jun 17, 07:53 AM 2019
Quote from: Steve on Jun 17, 01:37 AM 2019
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What does this have to do with proving everything you preach . Who’s childish now
Title: Re: Physic roulette
Post by: Steve on Jun 17, 08:20 AM 2019
Quote from: Winner on Jun 17, 07:46 AM 2019
Prove it  show the world all the money you can make you haven’t  proved nothing .

Or maybe you havent opened your eyes.
Title: Re: Physic roulette
Post by: Steve on Jun 17, 08:26 AM 2019
Quote from: Winner on Jun 17, 07:48 AM 2019
Then there’s Einstein. Prove that you make  money show the world how you do it .

Einstein? Firstly, carefully read his comment. Secondly, he was no expert in roulette. I am. Thirdly, the proof ive published is very clear. If you think otherwise, you dont understand, or havent researched. Forth, cant you read news articles? Fifth, you have no real experience in roulette ap, hence your comments. Your problem is you dont know.

And you didnt answer my question. Is it voodoo?
Title: Re: Physic roulette
Post by: Winner on Jun 17, 08:41 AM 2019
Quote from: Steve on Jun 17, 08:20 AM 2019
Or maybe you havent opened your eyes.
Prove it.
Title: Re: Physic roulette
Post by: Winner on Jun 17, 08:45 AM 2019
Quote from: Steve on Jun 17, 08:26 AM 2019
Einstein? Firstly, carefully read his comment. Secondly, he was no expert in roulette. I am. Thirdly, the proof ive published is very clear. If you think otherwise, you dont understand, or havent researched. Forth, cant you read news articles? Fifth, you have no real experience in roulette ap, hence your comments. Your problem is you dont know.

And you didnt answer my question. Is it voodoo?
Prove it showing the world videos of your computer means nothing . It’s like the bible Telling people Jesus existed 2000 years ago means nothing no proof .
Title: Re: Physic roulette
Post by: Winner on Jun 17, 09:16 AM 2019
I tried one of your phones and it sucked balls lost $300 had to revert back to my sytem to win .
Title: Re: Physic roulette
Post by: legend21 on Jun 17, 10:48 AM 2019
Applying Newtonian mechanics to the above leads to the following differential equations of
motion in the time domain:
˙θ = â,,¦, â,,¦ =Ë™ âˆ'αâ,,¦
2 + β âˆ' γ sin θ (1)
with initial conditions at time t = 0: θ(0) = 0; â,,¦(0) = â,,¦0,
t[seconds] time
θ[radians] angular distance
â,,¦[rad/s] angular velocity
and the dot denotes differentiation with respect to time (d/dt).
Title: Re: Physic roulette
Post by: legend21 on Jun 17, 10:50 AM 2019
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Title: Re: Physic roulette
Post by: legend21 on Jun 17, 10:58 AM 2019
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Title: Re: Physic roulette
Post by: Winner on Jun 17, 02:49 PM 2019
Try American wheel air ball better then euro sectors super tight they give you a clock to time it and they slow the wheel down when the ball is released what else can they do to make you win. No need for a computer.always been good predictung  where the ball is going to land air ball is more consistentl then a dealer .,but i still get bored  .
Title: Re: Physic roulette
Post by: Steve on Jun 17, 05:21 PM 2019
Quote from: Winner on Jun 17, 02:49 PM 2019always been good predictung  where the ball is going to land

You're asking for proof physics works, and saying you use physics for good accuracy. Looks like trolling.

You still havent answered my question. What determines the winning number? Physics, voodoo or what?

Ive given ample proof of my claims, including open public demos. If you werent at one, too bad. Theres still ample proof of the validity of physics. Not just from me but many others. If you sincerely want proof, its easy, but it looks more like youre just trolling.

Anyone actually seeking the truth wont actively resist it, as you appear to be doing, for some reason.

And what phone of mine are you referring to? You never had my computers and if you did and lost, it would be incorrect use. When used right you dont lose except with short term variance. Its not like a system where you only look at wins. You see clear detail like predictions of when and where the ball will fall.
Title: Re: Physic roulette
Post by: Winner on Jun 17, 09:50 PM 2019
Quote from: Steve on Jun 17, 05:21 PM 2019
You're asking for proof physics works, and saying you use physics for good accuracy. Looks like trolling.

You still havent answered my question. What determines the winning number? Physics, voodoo or what?

Ive given ample proof of my claims, including open public demos. If you werent at one, too bad. Theres still ample proof of the validity of physics. Not just from me but many others. If you sincerely want proof, its easy, but it looks more like youre just trolling.

Anyone actually seeking the truth wont actively resist it, as you appear to be doing, for some reason.

And what phone of mine are you referring to? You never had my computers and if you did and lost, it would be incorrect use. When used right you dont lose except with short term variance. Its not like a system where you only look at wins. You see clear detail like predictions of when and where the ball will fall.
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voodoo is practiced in Haiti if you believe in it then it will work .Systems works not all .my does and physics work but not all the time .sorry Australia to Dam far . Nokia phone mr Steve it wasn’t a great experience and believe me I did use it right
And I lost.
Title: Re: Physic roulette
Post by: Winner on Jun 17, 10:17 PM 2019
I’m not trolling mr Steve . I have no time for that shit but at the same time posting donuts give me a break thats a little childish. And that’s your way of insulting .You and the General seem a little controlling dont you think  .ah the ego . If the idea is to have a community you should welcome all ideas good or bad  if you have master something great but don’t try to control people with the knowledge you have aquired .if they don’t want to listen so be it you preach accuracy but every time a sytem goes up your there preaching .have you ever thought no one gives a crap.
Just saying peace ✌️ out


Title: Re: Physic roulette
Post by: Steve on Jun 17, 10:41 PM 2019
Quote from: Winner on Jun 17, 09:50 PM 2019Voodoo is practiced in Haiti if you believe in it then it will work

You're questioning whether or not physics works, but saying "if you believe in something, it will work".

Quote from: Winner on Jun 17, 09:50 PM 2019Systems works not all .my does and physics work but not all the time

Ok so again you say physics works. "Physics" is a very broad term for "reality". Saying physics doesn't work is saying reality isn't reality. The question, as it pertains to roulette, is can it be used to predict spins with sufficient accuracy. The answer is yes, but each approach has its strengths and weaknesses.

You clearly have a limited understanding. You're contradicting yourself and generally saying stupid things.

Ok so now I had a look at who you are.

Before I knew who you were, I sent you a free lite version roulette computer. It is a very basic version, and uses the same algorithm as the free trial at :.roulette-computers.com/free-trial/ which basically does what VB does. Does VB work? Yes it does, unless the player has no idea what they're doing.

Anyone who says "computers don't work" doesn't understand VB and basic roulette physics. All there is to is a basic computer and VB is:

1. Ball fall time
2. Rotor orientation at ball fall time
3. Scatter

It's not debatable. It's just reality and anyone with a basic understanding knows this. If you knew what you were doing, you would have tested this and see what the computer does, and would understand it's just a tool. It does what it is supposed to do. If it doesn't work, you aren't using it right. A bad tradesman blames his tools.

After some contact with you, I came to know who you really were: CHARLES EDWARD HAMPSHIRE. One of the biggest trolls and liars known to gambling forums. And when I asked what on Earth goes through your head when you mislead people about having the HG, and have them running in circles around you, your response was: "I like to make people think."

Quote from: Winner on Jun 17, 10:17 PM 2019I’m not trolling mr Steve . I have no time for that shit but at the same time posting donuts give me a break thats a little childish.

The doughnut was for Homer. And considering all your trolling and fake names over the years, you're in no position to call anyone childish.

Quote from: Winner on Jun 17, 10:17 PM 2019And that’s your way of insulting

The doughnut had nothing to do with you. Grow up.

Quote from: Winner on Jun 17, 10:17 PM 2019You and the General seem a little controlling dont you think

I speak for myself. I call bullshit when I see it. If I come across as brash, it's because I'm intolerant of bullshit. I don't have time or will to dance around. If something wont work, I'll say it, and explain why.

Quote from: Winner on Jun 17, 10:17 PM 2019If the idea is to have a community you should welcome all ideas good or bad

People can call Earth flat. And people can call that bullshit, without making it personal. If flat Earthers get offended, tough titties. That's how an open and moderated forum works. I wont stifle verifiable fact just because some people don't like being told they're wrong.

Quote from: Winner on Jun 17, 10:17 PM 2019if you have master something great but don’t try to control people with the knowledge you have aquired

Round Earthers explaining reality to Flat Earthers is not being "controlling".

Quote from: Winner on Jun 17, 10:17 PM 2019if they don’t want to listen so be it you preach accuracy but every time a sytem goes up your there preaching

You mean charts? Suppose if you knew the person posting those charts overall is actually losing, but they're showing only winning charts. Should I say something, or shut up and let people be manipulated?

Say the charts show only short-term wins from a bankroll reset, instead of an ongoing bankroll. Should I let people believe a winning session is proof of anything but a winning session? Does it mean the system works?

What about if someone is posting leaderboard screenshots on a game like Parx that is mathematically and verifiable rigged, but inexperienced members blindly follow manipulators, without even understanding basic math?

Quote from: Winner on Jun 17, 10:17 PM 2019have you ever thought no one gives a crap.

Lots of people dont give a crap. You havent been paying attention. I dont care about flat Earthers who dont want to use their brain. But if they publish false or manipulative rubbish, experienced members including myself are around to call bullshit. Without experienced players, the Flat Earther's bullshit reigns. My responses are for the sake of accuracy, and the benefit of people who DO use their brains, and DO actually want to know the truth - however inconvenient it is.

I don't know what your problem is. You manipulated people for so long using various fake names. You're notoriously one of the most manipulative and dishonest people to ever been on gambling forums. You say physics doesn't work, except for you, who has the HG but cant understand basic concepts.

There are so many holes in the bullshit you post, I dont have time for it. I always knew you'd one day come back under another fake name, and here you are.
Title: Re: Physic roulette
Post by: Winner on Jun 17, 10:47 PM 2019
Fake name sorry have no clue what your talking about.
Title: Re: Physic roulette
Post by: Steve on Jun 17, 11:04 PM 2019
Wow you even deny it. Of course you would. You've got problems. Get on your bike, and peddle your ass away.
Title: Re: Physic roulette
Post by: 6th-sense on Jun 18, 02:29 AM 2019
interesting steve...you any proof he,s CEH...Doesn,t seem to talk like him..completely the reverse
Title: Re: Physic roulette
Post by: Steve on Jun 18, 02:51 AM 2019
Shit yeah I have proof. His real name is in his email address. His IP is the same region in Canada. I remember communicating with him via email, initially not knowing who he was. Then when I found out, we communicated about wtf he was thinking when he spread shit across forums about his win 6 million or whatever it was. And as above, he said he just liked making people think.

He has been back many times. Trolls like this stay low profile for a while, usually deliberately typing differently. Until they cant help themselves and blow their cover.

There's more. It's clear. I'm not wasting more time on him.
Title: Re: Physic roulette
Post by: 6th-sense on Jun 18, 03:52 AM 2019
it was win3million.com....i transcribed the whole site into a book on amazon...got bad reviews as though it was a system..but its only the site transcribed..except the guestbook pages..i still have all that
i always thought he was from the uk..especially from the bank transfer he had set up from ..thought it was a uk bank account..
but as you say you have conversed by email..and probably have better knowledge on his ip than anyone..

Winner is this true? if it is you took a lot of money off the innocent and gullible
Title: Re: Physic roulette
Post by: Steve on Jun 18, 04:16 AM 2019
Why would he admit it?

I initially thought he was from uk too. And if I wasnt sure, I wouldnt say it. The proof is extensive and goes back years. It's him.

His scam was partly stopped by me, which is why he tried trolling me. This thread was specifically to troll me. Back then his many fools turned against me, as if i had the problem. Now they know better. Too late.
Title: Re: Physic roulette
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on Jun 18, 06:05 AM 2019
CEH...m'kay

Meanwhile,
(A good subject ruined) 
Title: Re: Physic roulette
Post by: Loc on Jun 18, 04:16 PM 2019
Quote from: Steve on Jun 18, 02:51 AM 2019
Shit yeah I have proof. His real name is in his email address. His IP is the same region in Canada. I remember communicating with him via email, initially not knowing who he was. Then when I found out, we communicated about wtf he was thinking when he spread shit across forums about his win 6 million or whatever it was. And as above, he said he just liked making people think.

He has been back many times. Trolls like this stay low profile for a while, usually deliberately typing differently. Until they cant help themselves and blow their cover.

There's more. It's clear. I'm not wasting more time on him.

I wonder why you still keep here people like A..., who claims that here is nothing that can beat roulette, but at the same time he posts betting systems and junks.......... There are few fools and idiots, old members, few k of posts, and the foolishness they say it's just a good circus show. You are way too tolerant, and that's the crap you get. Very good advice, you should split the gambling with betting rust and crap, to the real people, who knows how it works, and they can talk. Btw. nice private forum you got Steve, with 1 post per month, and always everyone offline. No hate or something, but i think it should be in the reverse, don't you think?
Title: Re: Physic roulette
Post by: The General on Jun 18, 05:22 PM 2019
Quote from: Proofreaders2000 on Jun 16, 08:44 PM 2019
Ok, I'll start it.

From what I have read about physics in Roulette, the emphasis is on the decision
before last outcome-the opposite side of the wheel (19 pockets clockwise)

It should consistently hit (more than not) one of the
five sector numbers.  Otherwise that casino is cheating.

Example: 2,13 (newest spin-value)

Nineteen clockwise pockets from #2 (European Wheel)-#14

So the next bet (physicswise would be 1,20,14,31,9 once:  1.) 0(x)

Marquee
0 (newest outcome)
13
2

Count 19 pockets from #13 (number seven)

Bet 18,29,7,28,12....

Proofreader,

What would you really like to know?

Vb can really be quite simple and no you don't need a physics degree or higher level math to do it. ( The Eudonomic Pie method is absurdly inefficient.  They were engineering and physics students at the time so that's why it was an absurd attempt.)

In short just predict how far the wheel will travel when there is X amount of time or distance left for the ball on the track.

Long before Thorp countless numerous vb players were destroying the game all around the world.  It's really not rocket science.
Title: Re: Physic roulette
Post by: Steve on Jun 18, 07:56 PM 2019
Quote from: Loc on Jun 18, 04:16 PM 2019I wonder why you still keep here people like A..., who claims that here is nothing that can beat roulette, but at the same time he posts betting systems and junks..........

He is allowed to express his beliefs.

Quote from: Loc on Jun 18, 04:16 PM 2019There are few fools and idiots, old members, few k of posts, and the foolishness they say it's just a good circus show

I'm fully aware. but at least we have some more experienced members to highlight the glaringly obvious problems in the math and logic, so people who want to learn can learn.

Quote from: Loc on Jun 18, 04:16 PM 2019You are way too tolerant, and that's the crap you get.

I cant just ban incorrect comments. There wouldnt be much left. If you are referring to tolerance of scammers, see link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=9426.msg78610#msg78610 under the heading "Treatment of Manipulative Gurus".

Quote from: Loc on Jun 18, 04:16 PM 2019you should split the gambling with betting rust and crap, to the real people, who knows how it works, and they can talk.

There are boards for general discussion, only AP, or only systems. I can't force people to use them.

Quote from: Loc on Jun 18, 04:16 PM 2019Btw. nice private forum you got Steve, with 1 post per month, and always everyone offline. No hate or something, but i think it should be in the reverse, don't you think?

Which private forum? I have 3 of them for roulette.

The most active private forum one is about 2-5 post per day. The boards aren't that active because the players already know how to win. The forum is for players to meet each other and form teams. The player typically posts what they're looking for, then other members contact the member via PM. Also by default the online status of members is not shown. And each member is verified to have my technology. They aren't public forums anyone can join.
Title: Re: Physic roulette
Post by: Loc on Jun 18, 09:29 PM 2019
It's 90% stuff that don't work, has no reason to work, and they just lose their and others people time.