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Title: Mathematical question [Repeaters]
Post by: OptimusPex on Jun 28, 09:27 AM 2019
Hi!

I'm pretty new on this forum so bear with me.
I'm personally very interested in repeaters as it's a a fact that you'll never get 37 unique number in each session of 37 spins.

However my question is what the chance is to get 24 unique numbers in the first 24 spins on european roulette.

Anyone who can help me out on this one?
Title: Re: Mathematical question [Repeaters]
Post by: Ricky on Jul 01, 10:19 PM 2019
Hi,
for what its worth Ive personally seen 20 numbers without a repeat. But a system based around anything less than 37 uniques before a repeat using straight up progressions on a loss is futile.
You need to think outside the box and ask yourself how can you bend time to find out the future at no cost to you. It can be done and I'm doing it ATM profiting with real money at my BM casino.

Cheers,
Ricky
Title: Re: Mathematical question [Repeaters]
Post by: Robbert on Jul 02, 04:13 AM 2019
A tip from a guy who has wasted alooottt of time on repeaters.

It doenst work.

Please put your time in AP play. And practice that.
Title: Re: Mathematical question [Repeaters]
Post by: Let Me Win on Jul 02, 05:33 AM 2019
Ricky,

Please explain how you are able to 'bend time' to see 'into the future' or I'll have to assume you are yet another a$$hole typing total bollocks.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Mathematical question [Repeaters]
Post by: bigmoney on Jul 02, 08:00 AM 2019
Yes ricky please explain how you bend time
Title: Re: Mathematical question [Repeaters]
Post by: Ricky on Jul 02, 12:40 PM 2019
Let me just give you this example and you determine if you can use this information to "bend time" and look into the future at no cost.

Say #1 spins. You now are betting for a repeat of #1. You place 1 unit on #1 and place another unit on Red. Now say #5 comes out. How much has the bet cost you? And now can you see you know 2 numbers that have  come out #1 and #5

This is not the exact method I use but the concept is the same. Now I will let you use you brains and work out the solution for yourself. Its of no interest to me to share what I do. But I am just trying to be helpful to those willing to think outside the box and not just expect others to do all the hard work.

Cheers,
Ricky
Title: Re: Mathematical question [Repeaters]
Post by: Let Me Win on Jul 02, 12:44 PM 2019
HaHaHaHa

It's another one of those guessing games...
Title: Re: Mathematical question [Repeaters]
Post by: bigmoney on Jul 02, 03:13 PM 2019
Ricky
Can u please expand more ....or is this another vaddis ....or law of the third ....guessing game ???
Come on matey man up ....which casino do u play at ricky ????
Title: Re: Mathematical question [Repeaters]
Post by: bigmoney on Jul 02, 03:19 PM 2019
Let me win ...its refreshing to see someone call these ...HINTERS .
.
OUT ......THE  VADDIS HOLY GRAIL IS A CROC OF SHIT .....LAW OF THE THIRD ANOTHER GUESSING GAME .....THAT AMOUNTS TO A WASTE OF TIME ....
OH WOW THEY SAY THEY HAVE CRACKED THE WINNING FORMULA  BUT ALL THEY HAVE IS NOTHING ......YES NOTHING ....ALL WE HAVE IS A FORUM FULL OF SO CALLED HINTERS STRINGING THE REST OF THE FORUM ON  ANOTHER ONE WAS PRYANAKA......RYHMS WITH WANKER
Title: Re: Mathematical question [Repeaters]
Post by: ati on Jul 02, 03:23 PM 2019
Quote from: LuckoftheIrish on Jun 28, 06:07 AM 2012I have run a 30 million single zero RNG test, 361 086 games (whenever a number repeats, a new session is started)

2    9799
3    19199
4    26712
5    33099
6    36817
7    38117
8    37424
9    34613
10    30241
11    25616
12    20579
13    15855
14    11481
15    8103
16    5429
17    3428
18    2057
19    1187
20    665
21    372
22    165
23    79
24    35
25    10
26    3
27    0
28    1

The above shows that in 30 million spins, 24 unique numbers appeared 10 times. (repeat is on the 25th spin)

37x36x35x34.....x3x2x1=a very small number
            3737

However, these cycle length statistics change if you always go back and count from the previous repeat. An example on straights:

First there are 9 unique numbers in a row, then number 20 repeats. You start tracking again, there are 12 unique numbers then number 18 repeats. These are pretty normal.
But if after 20 repeated and you go back to track again from 15, you will see 20 unique numbers in a row.

26
20
15
31
17
10
6
33
36
20
34
8
7
16
22
21
5
14
18
1
9
35
18

It even applies to EC's, cycle length 2 or 3 being 50/50 changes to around 30/70
Title: Re: Mathematical question [Repeaters]
Post by: bigmoney on Jul 02, 04:21 PM 2019
Quote from: Ricky on Jul 02, 12:40 PM 2019
Let me just give you this example and you determine if you can use this information to "bend time" and look into the future at no cost.

Say #1 spins. You now are betting for a repeat of #1. You place 1 unit on #1 and place another unit on Red. Now say #5 comes out. How much has the bet cost you? And now can you see you know 2 numbers that have  come out #1 and #5

This is not the exact method I use but the concept is the same. Now I will let you use you brains and work out the solution for yourself. Its of no interest to me to share what I do. But I am just trying to be helpful to those willing to think outside the box and not just expect others to do all the hard work.

Cheers,
Ricky

Ok  rick
What happens  1 comes up and you bet  number 1 and red ....then black number six comes up ....what then ????
Title: Re: Mathematical question [Repeaters]
Post by: Ricky on Jul 03, 02:37 AM 2019
Quote from: bigmoney on Jul 02, 04:21 PM 2019
Ok  rick
What happens  1 comes up and you bet  number 1 and red ....then black number six comes up ....what then ????
I won't expand my thoughts on this thread unless the owner agrees. I have my own thread I started a while back which I will expand on this concept for anyone who is interested. link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=25044.msg225753#msg225753 (link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=25044.msg225753#msg225753)
Title: Re: Mathematical question [Repeaters]
Post by: bigmoney on Jul 03, 07:32 AM 2019
Beauty
Title: Re: Mathematical question [Repeaters]
Post by: Ricky on Jul 03, 09:57 AM 2019
Quote from: ati on Jul 02, 03:23 PM 2019
The above shows that in 30 million spins, 24 unique numbers appeared 10 times. (repeat is on the 25th spin)

37x36x35x34.....x3x2x1=a very small number
            3737

However, these cycle length statistics change if you always go back and count from the previous repeat. An example on straights:

First there are 9 unique numbers in a row, then number 20 repeats. You start tracking again, there are 12 unique numbers then number 18 repeats. These are pretty normal.
But if after 20 repeated and you go back to track again from 15, you will see 20 unique numbers in a row.

26
20
15
31
17
10
6
33
36
20
34
8
7
16
22
21
5
14
18
1
9
35
18

It even applies to EC's, cycle length 2 or 3 being 50/50 changes to around 30/70
Hi ATI
Your observation of backtracking after a sequence ends with a repeat is well made. In fact I prefer to play a repeat in 37 spins by doing exactly this.  It is another example of how you can bend time and look into the future. So you have 20 uniques that have come out. Would you use this list to bet for a repeat in the next spin? What if you make your bet with another bet to offset the cost if another unique shows?

Cheers
Ricky