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Title: Convergence theory
Post by: Kali49 on Nov 21, 05:40 PM 2019
Hi Again,

Today I will introduce You to Convergence theory, this is meant to be an open topic I welcome contributions to make it something useful to us.

So here we go:

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Convergence theory came into existence when I observed a specific pattern when I tried to transform randomness with replacement ( same randomness in roulette) into a randomness without replacement ( example : a number will not repeat once it occurred in the last spin).

Let me give you an example :
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Randomness with replacement  in Red / Black within two spins :

RB
RR
BR
BB
Total combos: 4
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Randomness without replacement in Red / Black within two spins :

RB
BR

Total combos : 2
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Ok let's see Dozens:

Randomness with replacement:

11
12
13
21
22
23
31
32
33
Total combos : 9

Randomness without replacement:

12
13
21
23
31
32
Total combos : 6

Let's bet on combo #5 : (31)

Bet dozen 3 on first spin.
If you win bet 1.5 units on dozen 3 and dozen 1.
If dozen 3 wins repeat the bet (1.5 units on dozen 3 and dozen 1)
If dozen 3 wins again, repeat the bet (1.5 units on dozen 3 and dozen 1)
Till either you lose the bet when dozen 2 shows up. Or you win when dozen one shows up.

So to summarize:

Betting on combo #5 : (31) has a probability of 1/6 to win, the pay off may increase to crazy amounts before the combo is complete.
The probability of losing is 5/6.

In mathematics this is called "convergence for local permutations"

Discussions and Ideas are welcome.


Regards, Kali.
Title: Re: Convergence theory
Post by: Person S on Nov 21, 06:25 PM 2019
Hi, this is interesting, but not very clear yet.
Could you describe the meaning of the word "convergence" in your own words?
Title: Re: Convergence theory
Post by: Kali49 on Nov 21, 06:45 PM 2019
Quote from: Person S on Nov 21, 06:25 PM 2019
Hi, this is interesting, but not very clear yet.
Could you describe the meaning of the word "convergence" in your own words?

Convergence when it comes to numbers is the mathematical process that makes sure the output is a single point. A final state of equilibrium.

Law of large numbers for even chances converges to 0.5.

Each combo in the example of dozens
For randomness without replacement  converges to 1/6.
Title: Re: Convergence theory
Post by: Person S on Nov 21, 07:04 PM 2019
I’ll try to understand, so we have a source -
''wheel
'', numbers and combinations emerge from it.
All this mass at the output should be transformed to a certain point (I suppose this is a red circle in your drawing).
This point is the equilibrium that must be established over time when the right number of digits comes out of the wheel.
Sorry if this is a rude example, I'm just trying to find out.
Title: Re: Convergence theory
Post by: Kav on Nov 22, 01:58 AM 2019
Just because you don't write it down (say the 33), it doesn't mean it can't happen.
Your math is messed up.
You bet one dozen and if it comes you bet on 2 dozens.
The probability of this is 0,22 or 22% (more than 1/6) but this is exactly the same with any 1 dozen, 2 dozens bets. I don't see why you are intrigued by this idea, other than the fancy name.
Title: Re: Convergence theory
Post by: Kali49 on Nov 22, 04:02 AM 2019
I really  wanted  this to be an open discussion, apparently  only a few are interested.

I guess  we should  make it private, so I will use pms to answer questions, just type "Let me in" as your reply if you want more analysis delivered to you.

I will not ask for money , I am interested in working  with creative minds.
Title: Re: Convergence theory
Post by: mohitomish on Nov 22, 10:28 AM 2019
Let me in.
Title: Re: Convergence theory
Post by: Person S on Nov 22, 10:59 AM 2019
I think Kali uses the theory of games in communication with us.
I would like to join.
let me in
Title: Re: Convergence theory
Post by: MILLWARD007 on Nov 22, 02:08 PM 2019
Let me in
Title: Re: Convergence theory
Post by: Kali49 on Nov 22, 03:08 PM 2019
Quote from: mohitomish on Nov 22, 10:28 AM 2019
Let me in.

Quote from: Person S on Nov 22, 10:59 AM 2019
I think Kali uses the theory of games in communication with us.
I would like to join.
let me in

We will explore plenty of ideas.
Thank you.
Title: Re: Convergence theory
Post by: Sakura616 on Nov 22, 03:36 PM 2019
Hi Kali,

please let me in.
Thx

Title: Re: Convergence theory
Post by: puntoit on Nov 25, 05:12 PM 2019
Let me in ;D
Title: Re: Convergence theory
Post by: Sparks on Nov 25, 05:34 PM 2019
Let me in :)
Title: Re: Convergence theory
Post by: roulettefan on Nov 25, 06:55 PM 2019
let me in thank
Title: Re: Convergence theory
Post by: Johnoholic on Nov 25, 06:59 PM 2019
Let me in  8)
Title: Re: Convergence theory
Post by: Kali49 on Nov 25, 08:10 PM 2019
I've got some really really good news for you my dear subscribers, I am writing my analysis in a PDF format and I am about to finish the software for my final strategy.

to be honest I didn't expect to find an answer to the puzzle of finding a way to exploit the natural probability distributions of random numbers in order to maximize gains that are supposed to always remain negative.

I will share my findings for free with you guys and I will count on your word to keep it a secret, or at least be professionals in selling it to the ones you trust.

You will hear from me soon.

Regards, Kali.
Title: Re: Convergence theory
Post by: Elite on Nov 25, 10:37 PM 2019
Let me in
Title: Re: Convergence theory
Post by: Elite on Nov 25, 10:38 PM 2019
Quote from: Kali49 on Nov 25, 08:10 PM 2019
I've got some really really good news for you my dear subscribers, I am writing my analysis in a PDF format and I am about to finish the software for my final strategy.

to be honest I didn't expect to find an answer to the puzzle of finding a way to exploit the natural probability distributions of random numbers in order to maximize gains that are supposed to always remain negative.

I will share my findings for free with you guys and I will count on your word to keep it a secret, or at least be professionals in selling it to the ones you trust.

You will hear from me soon.

Regards, Kali.
Waiting.....
Title: Re: Convergence theory
Post by: Pappy on Nov 25, 11:28 PM 2019
Kali

I would like to join.
Please let me in

Thanks
Title: Re: Convergence theory
Post by: quos on Nov 26, 02:47 AM 2019
I would like to continue watching...
Please let me in

Thanks
Title: Re: Convergence theory
Post by: sturrock on Nov 26, 04:19 AM 2019
Please let me in please  ;D
Title: Re: Convergence theory
Post by: Kav on Nov 26, 06:59 AM 2019
This is a nice list of people who don't get probability...
Title: Re: Convergence theory
Post by: leoncino74 on Nov 26, 10:08 AM 2019
Please let me in please
Title: Re: Convergence theory
Post by: Kali49 on Nov 28, 07:47 AM 2019
My software runs on Windows OS, I need to know how many of you guys uses iOS (apple) in your laptop so I will see if I have to create a version of the software for you.

It's basically designed to teach you on how to implement the strategy  in a brick and mortar casino and use it directly if you play online roulette.

Reply with "Windows" or "apple" as soon as possible, I know a lot of you are waiting
Title: Re: Convergence theory
Post by: Person S on Nov 28, 08:08 AM 2019
WINDOWS
Title: Re: Convergence theory
Post by: Sparks on Nov 28, 08:25 AM 2019
Windows :)
Title: Re: Convergence theory
Post by: 2BobBet on Nov 28, 08:56 AM 2019
Windows
Title: Re: Convergence theory
Post by: mohitomish on Nov 28, 11:40 AM 2019
windows
Title: Re: Convergence theory
Post by: Mc. on Nov 28, 02:15 PM 2019
Hello
I'm interested too.
for Windows

Thank you so much
Title: Re: Convergence theory
Post by: quos on Nov 28, 05:09 PM 2019
Windows

Thanks
Title: Re: Convergence theory
Post by: puntoit on Nov 28, 05:39 PM 2019
 Windows :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Convergence theory
Post by: roulettefan on Nov 28, 06:04 PM 2019
window
Title: Re: Convergence theory
Post by: Clf7 on Nov 28, 07:30 PM 2019
Windows, Thanks
Title: Re: Convergence theory
Post by: Elite on Nov 28, 10:50 PM 2019
Windows
Title: Re: Convergence theory
Post by: Pappy on Nov 29, 01:34 PM 2019
Windows, Thanks
Title: Re: Convergence theory
Post by: Clf7 on Nov 29, 08:50 PM 2019
And ofc let me in  :)
Title: Re: Convergence theory
Post by: Sakura616 on Nov 29, 10:50 PM 2019
Windows
Title: Re: Convergence theory
Post by: stringbeanpc on Nov 30, 01:32 AM 2019
windows
Title: Re: Convergence theory
Post by: Raf on Nov 30, 01:43 AM 2019
Windows, thanks
Title: Re: Convergence theory
Post by: plolp on Dec 01, 11:17 AM 2019

Doors
Title: Re: Convergence theory
Post by: raker on Dec 01, 03:55 PM 2019
Windows, Thanks
Title: Re: Convergence theory
Post by: Clf7 on Dec 02, 07:54 PM 2019
Kali we are waiting man where are you!? :question: :)
Title: Re: Convergence theory
Post by: number25 on Dec 02, 08:16 PM 2019
Windows
Title: Re: Convergence theory
Post by: Kali49 on Dec 03, 07:47 PM 2019
Quote from: Clf7 on Dec 02, 07:54 PM 2019
Kali we are waiting man where are you!? :question: :)

I am preparing something for you no one ever dared to imagine.

We will need to form teams for this to work.

Give me some time to manage this, would you kindly be patient and wait for a while?
Title: Re: Convergence theory
Post by: Clf7 on Dec 03, 08:02 PM 2019
Ye man sorry i didnt want to be rude, i appreciate your work :)
Title: Re: Convergence theory
Post by: Kali49 on Dec 06, 04:56 PM 2019
Quote from: Clf7 on Dec 03, 08:02 PM 2019
Ye man sorry i didnt want to be rude, i appreciate your work :)

It's alright :)



Title: Re: Convergence theory
Post by: Kali49 on Dec 06, 05:00 PM 2019
The strategy and the software are ready now.

Check your inbox for more details.

Note: only selected individuals were contacted.

Next week a new group will be selected.

The group will get funding to play the strategy and will get 40% on their earnings no strings attached.

Regards,
Title: Re: Convergence theory
Post by: Clf7 on Dec 06, 05:20 PM 2019
So if we are not in, simply waiting a week to become further instructions via inbox....right?
Title: Re: Convergence theory
Post by: Turkish4 on Dec 07, 03:09 AM 2019
Quote from: Kali49 on Dec 06, 05:00 PM 2019
The strategy and the software are ready now.

Check your inbox for more details.

Note: only selected individuals were contacted.

Next week a new group will be selected.

The group will get funding to play the strategy and will get 40% on their earnings no strings attached.

Regards,

Is it too late for me to say let me in and windows?
Title: Re: Convergence theory
Post by: Cristal2000 on Dec 07, 03:28 AM 2019
Quote from: Kali49 on Dec 06, 05:00 PM 2019
The strategy and the software are ready now.

Check your inbox for more details.

Note: only selected individuals were contacted.

Next week a new group will be selected.

The group will get funding to play the strategy and will get 40% on their earnings no strings attached.

Regards,


Windows thanks  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Convergence theory
Post by: neuro on Dec 07, 07:59 AM 2019
Hi, I'm interested too.
I windows!

Thank you
Title: Re: Convergence theory
Post by: 2BobBet on Dec 08, 03:09 PM 2019
Has anybody been sent the software for testing ?
Title: Re: Convergence theory
Post by: Kali49 on Dec 08, 06:40 PM 2019
Quote from: 2BobBet on Dec 08, 03:09 PM 2019
Has anybody been sent the software for testing ?

This strategy was open for public before, now it has become private, however more concepts and strategies will be released to the public soon.

Regards,
Kali
Title: Re: Convergence theory
Post by: nottophammer on May 02, 10:05 AM 2021
Quote from: 2BobBet on Dec 08, 03:09 PM 2019
Has anybody been sent the software for testing ?
quite quiet
Title: Re: Convergence theory
Post by: FreeRoulette on May 02, 01:36 PM 2021
Windows
Title: Re: Convergence theory
Post by: holy roller on May 04, 01:59 AM 2021
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