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Title: Root Factors Matrix
Post by: holy roller on Jan 02, 01:56 AM 2020
Does anyone know how to play using this spreadsheet? I am not interested in using the numbers as they are in the spreadsheet. I want to set up this matrix with my own numbers, but I am curious how this system is played. Thanks for any help.
Title: Re: Root Factors Matrix
Post by: number25 on Jan 02, 04:30 PM 2020
Quote from: holy roller on Jan 02, 01:56 AM 2020
Does anyone know how to play using this spreadsheet? I am not interested in using the numbers as they are in the spreadsheet. I want to set up this matrix with my own numbers, but I am curious how this system is played. Thanks for any help.

Is this Kimo Li spreadsheet?
Title: Re: Root Factors Matrix
Post by: holy roller on Jan 03, 12:13 AM 2020
Yes sir it is
Title: Re: Root Factors Matrix
Post by: number25 on Jan 03, 01:06 AM 2020
You have to read his post.

My take on it is  if your betting 12 numbers have to hit in 3 spins.

He has them group into 12 numbers. No zeros!

The number combination I don't understand how they change.  That's the key to the number puzzle.

Title: Re: Root Factors Matrix
Post by: holy roller on Jan 03, 02:09 AM 2020
Number25 do you have the link to his article? I do not remember where I found his spreadsheet. I am curious because if I can figure out how he uses this then I want to try an adapt it to the numbers that I want to put in the matrix. They would be different than his. Thanks.
Title: Re: Root Factors Matrix
Post by: raebel on Jan 03, 04:09 AM 2020
You can't post links here so Google Kimo li root factors.  That will get you what you are looking for!
Cheers,
raebel
Title: Re: Root Factors Matrix
Post by: number25 on Jan 03, 08:18 AM 2020
Quote from: raebel on Jan 03, 04:09 AM 2020
You can't post links here so Google Kimo li root factors.  That will get you what you are looking for!
Cheers,
raebel

It's not just one post Kimo Li has stuff everywhere.   Yes Goggle it.

From what I understand is Yes you can group any 12 numbers that you want.
In your matrix.
Title: Re: Root Factors Matrix
Post by: Taotie on Jan 03, 08:27 AM 2020
Why bother grouping numbers?

There's plenty of number groups already available on the table layout.

K.I.S.S. comes to mind.
Title: Re: Root Factors Matrix
Post by: number25 on Jan 03, 10:31 AM 2020
K.I.S.S. comes to mind.
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What is this?
Title: Re: Root Factors Matrix
Post by: raebel on Jan 03, 10:38 AM 2020
Keep It Simple Stupid: KISS!
Title: Re: Root Factors Matrix
Post by: holy roller on Jan 03, 11:42 AM 2020
Quote from: Taotie on Jan 03, 08:27 AM 2020
Why bother grouping numbers?

There's plenty of number groups already available on the table layout.

K.I.S.S. comes to mind.

Because the system I have now grouping 12 numbers seems to be pretty effective. I want to see if I plug my 12 numbers in to his chart to see f my hit rate improves. Always looking for ways to make it better.  :D ;)
Title: Re: Root Factors Matrix
Post by: number25 on Jan 03, 02:35 PM 2020
Quote from: raebel on Jan 03, 10:38 AM 2020
Keep It Simple Stupid: KISS!

That is a knee slapper!!
Title: Re: Root Factors Matrix
Post by: number25 on Jan 03, 02:39 PM 2020
Quote from: holy roller on Jan 03, 11:42 AM 2020
Because the system I have now grouping 12 numbers seems to be pretty effective. I want to see if I plug my 12 numbers in to his chart to see f my hit rate improves. Always looking for ways to make it better.  :D ;)

Played today @ my casino! 

Walked away with profit.

I was playing A B C  it's in the American roulette book by Kimo Li.

Still 12 numbers to bet & need to win in 3 spins.
Title: Re: Root Factors Matrix
Post by: Gandhi on Jan 03, 06:38 PM 2020
Quote from: number25 on Jan 03, 02:39 PM 2020
Played today @ my casino! 

Walked away with profit.

I was playing A B C  it's in the American roulette book by Kimo Li.

Still 12 numbers to bet & need to win in 3 spins.


Nice!

I've been studying and trying to learn his Pinwheel method but unsure of the best way to decide when is the optimal time to bet and progression.

any tips you mind sharing on the way you are tracking and the trend you are looking for? I read his posts and know he said he favors hot trends but also know he has different methods of tracking. Thanks.
Title: Re: Root Factors Matrix
Post by: number25 on Jan 03, 11:32 PM 2020
You have to look for it. It is in a fourm somewhere.

Kimo Li posted how to play PW.
It was a lot of good info in that post.

Hot trends are a good way to play.
When betting 12 numbers you have to win in 3 spins.

I track in my head .... Also I like to play what keeps on missing . Sometimes I play the hot trends then switch to what's missing.   

Do you play American roulette?

I would look for the PW post & It gives you instructions how to play it.
Title: Re: Root Factors Matrix
Post by: holy roller on Jan 04, 12:29 AM 2020
Quote from: number25 on Jan 03, 02:39 PM 2020
Played today @ my casino! 

Walked away with profit.

I was playing A B C  it's in the American roulette book by Kimo Li.

Still 12 numbers to bet & need to win in 3 spins.

I have the American Roulette book. Can you tell me how you play that method Number25? Thanks.
Title: Re: Root Factors Matrix
Post by: number25 on Jan 04, 12:38 AM 2020
You can PM me so we can talk.
Title: Re: Root Factors Matrix
Post by: Gandhi on Jan 04, 12:51 AM 2020
Quote from: number25 on Jan 03, 11:32 PM 2020
You have to look for it. It is in a fourm somewhere.

Kimo Li posted how to play PW.
It was a lot of good info in that post.

Hot trends are a good way to play.
When betting 12 numbers you have to win in 3 spins.

I track in my head .... Also I like to play what keeps on missing . Sometimes I play the hot trends then switch to what's missing.   

Do you play American roulette?

I would look for the PW post & It gives you instructions how to play it.


I think he may have deleted the post you are thinking of cause it gave away too much.
I've read through all of his posts that i could find and have seen deleted stuff from him and other people cause they said it was too much.

Yes I play American roulette and have his book.

The only post with clear step instructions is from someone saying how they use the matrix and it was based on tracking 24 numbers and betting the cold columns of the matrix that remain.

Thanks for the info, I've been trying to piece together a good way of playing from the info he has given that is still out, I'd enjoy sharing ideas with you in this thread if you are open to it.
Title: Re: Root Factors Matrix
Post by: Gandhi on Jan 04, 12:53 AM 2020
Quote from: number25 on Jan 04, 12:38 AM 2020
You can PM me so we can talk.

Can you guys discuss in here? I'm interesting in hearing your ideas.
Title: Re: Root Factors Matrix
Post by: number25 on Jan 04, 08:23 AM 2020
Quote from: Gandhi on Jan 04, 12:53 AM 2020
Can you guys discuss in here? I'm interesting in hearing your ideas.

I GOOGLED Kimo Li pinwheel and it still their .

If your LAZY  how can I help you.

Title: Re: Root Factors Matrix
Post by: Gandhi on Jan 04, 01:38 PM 2020
Quote from: number25 on Jan 04, 08:23 AM 2020
I GOOGLED Kimo Li pinwheel and it still their .

If your LAZY  how can I help you.


If it's there then I have read it. Thanks for some examples.

Was looking to share ideas from the book but you seem like a real dick. You should focus less on roulette and work more on improving your attitude.
Title: Re: Root Factors Matrix
Post by: Bigbroben on Jan 04, 02:01 PM 2020
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Title: Re: Root Factors Matrix
Post by: number25 on Jan 04, 03:07 PM 2020
A set of six numbers of 36 numbers, excluding zeros, should come in, based on the laws of averages, once every six spins. So, the probability of a set of six numbers should come in within six spins.

We all know that it is highly unlikely that six sets of six numbers will behave in accordance to the law of averages on only six spins. So, how does one extract the essence of probability? Using the Global Star principles and implementing the Pinwheel Strategy (stars 14, 25, 36), the tracking looks like this.

Sets of 3 spins â€" why because twelve numbers sets should come in at least once every three spins; but it don’t, it looks more like the following:

3 SPIN SETS - PINWHEEL 14 25 36

10 01 03 - 0 2 1
19 13 35 - 2 1 0
06 01 08 - 1 0 2
33 02 02 - 0 0 3
25 17 29 â€" 1 0 2
12 22 34 â€" 0 2 1
06 10 21 â€" 1 2 0
25 22 36 â€" 1 1 1 Hit - This is an actual betting point playing live. Pinwheel 36 was wagered and repeated.
18 00 16 â€" 1 0 1 Hit
0 33 13 â€" 0 1 1 Hit
0 36 18 â€" 1 0 1 Hit
23 29 03 â€" 1 1 1 Hit
28 36 10 â€" 2 1 0 Miss, switch to Pinwheel 14 and repeat, because 14 is on a run.
07 29 0 - 1 0 1 Hit
16 19 16 â€" 3 0 0 Hit
20 24 31 â€" 1 1 1 Hit
07 31 22 â€" 0 2 1 Miss, switch to Pinwheel 25 and repeat. Could have played 36 and still would have won.
10 27 23 â€" 1 1 1 Hit
14 08 09 - 0 2 1 Hit
31 23 35 â€" 1 1 1 Hit and stopped. Reached money target. $1,400.00

Recap:

Play 3 spin sets. Once number hits, stop and wait for next three spins. Spin one hits, wait two spins to play again. Spin one misses and spin two hits, wait one spin and play again. Spins one and two misses and spin three hits. Start next three spins.

Miss your three sets, switch to a running trend. Money management is a key factor behind this strategy. That is a different story.


ATTN LAZY PERSON READ IT STEP BY STEP HOW TO PLAY PW!!!
Title: Re: Root Factors Matrix
Post by: number25 on Jan 04, 03:09 PM 2020
Quote from: Gandhi on Jan 04, 01:38 PM 2020

If it's there then I have read it. Thanks for some examples.

Was looking to share ideas from the book but you seem like a real dick. You should focus less on roulette and work more on improving your attitude.

I HOPE THIS NEW POST HELP YOU!
Title: Re: Root Factors Matrix
Post by: number25 on Jan 04, 03:11 PM 2020
Quote from: Bigbroben on Jan 04, 02:01 PM 2020
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LMFAO!!!
Title: Re: Root Factors Matrix
Post by: Gandhi on Jan 05, 04:11 PM 2020
Quote from: Bigbroben on Jan 04, 02:01 PM 2020
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hahaha I like that
Title: Re: Root Factors Matrix
Post by: Gandhi on Jan 05, 04:23 PM 2020
Quote from: number25 on Jan 04, 03:07 PM 2020
Money management is a key factor behind this strategy. That is a different story.


ATTN LAZY PERSON READ IT STEP BY STEP HOW TO PLAY PW!!!

How am I lazy if I've read this many times in the past have studied it and understand it?
Do you not see where he says money management is a KEY factor? Do you also see that it is not fully how he plays it? It's just a concept to get you thinking in ways to play.

Do you also see that he says that you should create a matrix using each method and that no one really knows how to fully use and understand the matrix yet? This is why I said I would enjoy discussing some ideas from his book but your attitude seems too lazy to do so.   
Title: Re: Root Factors Matrix
Post by: number25 on Jan 05, 04:45 PM 2020
The only post with clear step instructions is from someone saying how they use the matrix and it was based on tracking 24 numbers and betting the cold columns of the matrix that remain.

That was your post.  So you didn't read   PW Kimo Li that post.   So I called you LAZY!

If you want to talk about the book go ahead I'm all ears. 

Title: Re: Root Factors Matrix
Post by: number25 on Jan 05, 05:07 PM 2020
How he tracks the spins is a good way to see hot trends.

You can bet any 12 numbers of your choice. 

Money Management is simple make some leave when your up or stop when you lost enough.
Title: Re: Root Factors Matrix
Post by: holy roller on Jan 10, 01:51 AM 2020
Number25 is this how you play this matrix?

Flat bet trigger is any hot GP or Star (hit twice or 3 times in the last 6 spins) bet only 6 times same GP or S then go to next trigger. Also, can bet only on GP (or S) so 6 numbers. Or can bet on both. If hit twice consecutive -36 on GP or S then wait virtual win. Then stop and wait virtual win. (optional… can stop at first -36 and wait one virtual W, then bet)
Title: Re: Root Factors Matrix
Post by: number25 on Jan 10, 09:22 PM 2020
10 01 03 - 0 2 1
19 13 35 - 2 1 0
06 01 08 - 1 0 2
33 02 02 - 0 0 3
25 17 29 â€" 1 0 2
12 22 34 â€" 0 2 1
06 10 21 â€" 1 2 0
25 22 36 â€" 1 1 1 Hit - This is an actual betting point playing live. Pinwheel 36 was wagered and repeated.

This is my take on the info.

He is tracking PW  for a few spins or sets & then place a bet on PW 36 . It looks like PW 36 was hot so bet into you loss on that set & then jump into the next hot PW that's is running.

I just watch & then strike.

The Matrix I believe is just a map for the user to remember the numbers he is using  to play roulette.

Do you have American roulette numbers put out 30 spins.  If you have them.

Lets look at them.
Title: Re: Root Factors Matrix
Post by: ludo8400 on Jan 11, 11:07 AM 2020
@number 25

A set of six numbers of 36 numbers, excluding zeros, should come in, based on the laws of averages, once every six spins. So, the probability of a set of six numbers should come in within six spins.

We all know that it is highly unlikely that six sets of six numbers will behave in accordance to the law of averages on only six spins. So, how does one extract the essence of probability? Using the Global Star principles and implementing the Pinwheel Strategy (stars 14, 25, 36), the tracking looks like this.

Sets of 3 spins â€" why because twelve numbers sets should come in at least once every three spins; but it don’t, it looks more like the following:

3 SPIN SETS - PINWHEEL 14 25 36

10 01 03 - 0 2 1
19 13 35 - 2 1 0
06 01 08 - 1 0 2
33 02 02 - 0 0 3
25 17 29 â€" 1 0 2
12 22 34 â€" 0 2 1
06 10 21 â€" 1 2 0
25 22 36 â€" 1 1 1 Hit - This is an actual betting point playing live. Pinwheel 36 was wagered and repeated.

This is the same texte from RFF MAX anno 2015

Ludi8400
Title: Re: Root Factors Matrix
Post by: number25 on Jan 11, 12:25 PM 2020
Quote from: ludo8400 on Jan 11, 11:07 AM 2020
@number 25

A set of six numbers of 36 numbers, excluding zeros, should come in, based on the laws of averages, once every six spins. So, the probability of a set of six numbers should come in within six spins.

We all know that it is highly unlikely that six sets of six numbers will behave in accordance to the law of averages on only six spins. So, how does one extract the essence of probability? Using the Global Star principles and implementing the Pinwheel Strategy (stars 14, 25, 36), the tracking looks like this.

Sets of 3 spins â€" why because twelve numbers sets should come in at least once every three spins; but it don’t, it looks more like the following:

3 SPIN SETS - PINWHEEL 14 25 36

10 01 03 - 0 2 1
19 13 35 - 2 1 0
06 01 08 - 1 0 2
33 02 02 - 0 0 3
25 17 29 â€" 1 0 2
12 22 34 â€" 0 2 1
06 10 21 â€" 1 2 0
25 22 36 â€" 1 1 1 Hit - This is an actual betting point playing live. Pinwheel 36 was wagered and repeated.

This is the same texte from RFF MAX anno 2015

Ludi8400

YES SIR!  This is correct.

I was asked how I played A B C from Kimo Li book.  This is a very good way to play ANY 12 numbers. 

How is the 369 going for you? 
Have you cracked the code?

Title: Re: Root Factors Matrix
Post by: ludo8400 on Jan 12, 09:35 AM 2020
@  Number 25

No, I have not.
Tesla 369 is not working

nice sunday anyway

ludo8400
Title: Re: Root Factors Matrix
Post by: holy roller on Jan 12, 06:54 PM 2020
I guess I do not understand the pinwheel or global pie well enough. What are the pinwheels 14 25 36? What are the three numbers on the left and then the 0 1 2 etc on the right side?

Sets of 3 spins â€" why because twelve numbers sets should come in at least once every three spins; but it don’t, it looks more like the following:

3 SPIN SETS - PINWHEEL 14 25 36

10 01 03 - 0 2 1
19 13 35 - 2 1 0
06 01 08 - 1 0 2
33 02 02 - 0 0 3
25 17 29 â€" 1 0 2
12 22 34 â€" 0 2 1
06 10 21 â€" 1 2 0
25 22 36 â€" 1 1 1 Hit - This is an actual betting point playing live. Pinwheel 36 was wagered and repeated
Title: Re: Root Factors Matrix
Post by: number25 on Jan 12, 07:15 PM 2020
3 SPIN SETS - PINWHEEL 14 25 36

10 01 03 - 0 2 1
19 13 35 - 2 1 0
06 01 08 - 1 0 2
33 02 02 - 0 0 3
25 17 29 â€" 1 0 2
12 22 34 â€" 0 2 1
06 10 21 â€" 1 2 0
25 22 36 â€" 1 1 1 Hit - This is an actual betting point playing live. Pinwheel 36 was wagered and repeated
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Hi, You said you have the book.
Go to the PW section and study the numbers for PW.

10 01 03 - 0 2 1.      These numbers are
19 13 35 - 2 1 0.       tracking the PW in
06 01 08 - 1 0 2.       3 set spins.
33 02 02 - 0 0 3
25 17 29 â€" 1 0 2
12 22 34 â€" 0 2 1
Title: Re: Root Factors Matrix
Post by: holy roller on Jan 15, 03:29 AM 2020
@Number25 I do understand the 14 25 36 now. I also have the full spreadsheet for the pinwheel now from Kimo.

I understand what the 012 mean on the right as well. What I still do not know how to do is to guess which group of 12 will come in next. I can see where I SHOULD have bet after the sheet is getting filled out, but that is like betting the winning lottery numbers after they have already come out.

Do you have any ideas about predicting the next 12 numbers you should be betting? Thanks Number25.
Title: Re: Root Factors Matrix
Post by: number25 on Jan 15, 09:29 AM 2020
Quote from: holy roller on Jan 15, 03:29 AM 2020
@Number25 I do understand the 14 25 36 now. I also have the full spreadsheet for the pinwheel now from Kimo.

I understand what the 012 mean on the right as well. What I still do not know how to do is to guess which group of 12 will come in next. I can see where I SHOULD have bet after the sheet is getting filled out, but that is like betting the winning lottery numbers after they have already come out.

Do you have any ideas about predicting the next 12 numbers you should be betting? Thanks Number25.

@ H.R.  I sent you a PM check your inbox
Title: Re: Root Factors Matrix
Post by: precogmiles on Jan 15, 02:50 PM 2020
Do you think kimo li is a millionaire now?
Title: Re: Root Factors Matrix
Post by: Clf7 on Jan 15, 03:05 PM 2020
Quote from: precogmiles on Jan 15, 02:50 PM 2020
Do you think kimo li is a millionaire now?

What do you know about him? Do you have infos?
Title: Re: Root Factors Matrix
Post by: precogmiles on Jan 15, 03:13 PM 2020
Quote from: Clf7 on Jan 15, 03:05 PM 2020
What do you know about him? Do you have infos?

Just wonder what the evidence for his system is?