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Title: If you have a HG
Post by: Mister Eko on Mar 07, 06:30 PM 2020
What will you do if you will have a profitable system, monthly thousands income? Will you availbale at forums help others for free? Or you disappear like a rat, after forums has helped you?
Title: Re: If you have a HG
Post by: Bebediktus3 on Mar 07, 06:43 PM 2020
Such a system, not exist. What exists needs hard work, but peoples do not want to work.. :)
I several times asked other peoples to help me ( usually advantage play needs several players ) and even for money... nobody wants :)
Title: Re: If you have a HG
Post by: Mister Eko on Mar 07, 06:56 PM 2020
Quote from: Bebediktus3 on Mar 07, 06:43 PM 2020
Such a system, not exist. What exists needs hard work, but peoples do not want to work.. :)
I several times asked other peoples to help me ( usually advantage play needs several players ) and even for money... nobody wants :)

Hard work equal beating roueltte, random, and independent events?
Title: Re: If you have a HG
Post by: ati on Mar 07, 07:20 PM 2020
Quote from: Mister Eko on Mar 07, 06:30 PM 2020
What will you do if you will have a profitable system, monthly thousands income? Will you availbale at forums help others for free? Or you disappear like a rat, after forums has helped you?
First, people have a very different definition of what a HG is. To me, a HG is mathematical, no variance, constant win rate, regardless of the generated numbers.
To answer the question, yes I would disappear. Only the very desperate and lazy people think someone should share a HG on the forum. They can't comprehend the fact that if a mathematical HG would be shared on the forum, or the hints would be too easy to work out, roulette would not exist! Casinos would immediately change the rules, and say that for example from now on you are not allowed to make outside bets, or an inside bet will pay you 20 to 1.
It doesn't matter if you lost your, job, or have a large debt, or your wife divorced you, etc. These are sad things, but doesn't mean you deserve to be given a HG.
Btw, 99% of the time the forum doesn't help. Some posts are eye openers and can set you in the right direction, but most of the help comes from self discoveries and private messages.
Again I have to state that I cannot beat the game, and for now it's only ruining (might be a strong word) my life, but from what I have seen, I believe it's possible to do it. But the solution is radically different from the million systems that have been posted on the forums.
Title: Re: If you have a HG
Post by: Kairomancer on Mar 07, 07:51 PM 2020
I would share such HG without hesitation.
I would put it in a silver platter and even happily answer most questions as a service to make it simply understandable. It would feel good for sure.

I would not care about the long term profit potential of this game or the changing rules.
It would be fun to watch the global effect of such an action.
I know that the good energy I put out for others gets back to me multiplied.
I won't base my life choices on scarcity mentality and fear of the future.
Title: Re: If you have a HG
Post by: Taotie on Mar 07, 08:05 PM 2020
I'm not sharing my HG, not yet anyway. Once my real estate portfolio reaches 6 or 7 properties I will reconsider.

Title: Re: If you have a HG
Post by: Mister Eko on Mar 07, 08:16 PM 2020
Quote from: Taotie on Mar 07, 08:05 PM 2020
I'm not sharing my HG, not yet anyway. Once my real estate portfolio reaches 6 or 7 properties I will reconsider.

you have hg too?
Title: Re: If you have a HG
Post by: Taotie on Mar 07, 10:08 PM 2020
Of course,

Only mine is purely mechanical and so easy to play. No charting, no matrix to navigate, no algorithms to calculate, no triggers to wait for, no changing directions, no counting pockets, no searching for patterns, no virtual betting, no skipping spins, no charting past spins, NOTHING.

Just sit down, FTL and start placing chips on the table.

After all, I am the one true roulette master. It says so under my avatar.
Title: Re: If you have a HG
Post by: Turkish4 on Mar 07, 10:51 PM 2020
You should ask sergio. He always has the HG!

I’ll bet he’ll share it! 😉
Title: Re: If you have a HG
Post by: Steeefan2014 on Mar 08, 01:08 AM 2020
Quote from: Taotie on Mar 07, 10:08 PM 2020
Of course,

Only mine is purely mechanical and so easy to play. No charting, no matrix to navigate, no algorithms to calculate, no triggers to wait for, no changing directions, no counting pockets, no searching for patterns, no virtual betting, no skipping spins, no charting past spins, NOTHING.

Just sit down, FTL and start placing chips on the table.

After all, I am the one true roulette master. It says so under my avatar.

And the reason you don't share is because you're afraid that someone else will buy those properties before you do or.... ?
Title: Re: If you have a HG
Post by: Taotie on Mar 08, 01:24 AM 2020
Quote from: Steeefan2014 on Mar 08, 01:08 AM 2020And the reason you don't share is because you're afraid that someone else will buy those properties before you do

No, that's just a goal I've set myself. Once I've achieved my goal I won't really need to play roulette anymore so I can share the bet.
Title: Re: If you have a HG
Post by: Mister Eko on Mar 08, 04:41 AM 2020
Quote from: Taotie on Mar 08, 01:24 AM 2020
No, that's just a goal I've set myself. Once I've achieved my goal I won't really need to play roulette anymore so I can share the bet.

How far is your wingoal?
Pless share your hg
Title: Re: If you have a HG
Post by: Turkish4 on Mar 08, 04:54 AM 2020
Quote from: Mister Eko on Mar 08, 04:41 AM 2020
How far is your wingoal?
Pless share your hg

I can share Sergio’s HG if you like.. but won’t make a difference if you ask me!
Title: Re: If you have a HG
Post by: Mister Eko on Mar 08, 05:17 AM 2020
Quote from: Turkish4 on Mar 08, 04:54 AM 2020
I can share Sergio’s HG if you like.. but won’t make a difference if you ask me!

Okay lets see Sergio hg  :D
Title: Re: If you have a HG
Post by: Roulettebeater on Mar 08, 06:11 AM 2020
Quote from: Turkish4 on Mar 07, 10:51 PM 2020
You should ask sergio. He always has the HG!

I’ll bet he’ll share it! 😉

He only shares it if he is given a good Blowjob  :twisted:

Title: Re: If you have a HG
Post by: Turkish4 on Mar 08, 08:53 AM 2020
Quote from: Roulettebeater on Mar 08, 06:11 AM 2020
He only shares it if he is given a good Blowjob  :twisted:

Haha no blowjob needed. I’ll share it for free with everyone!

It’s a losing HG but sergio will tell you it always wins!
Title: Re: If you have a HG
Post by: Bebediktus3 on Mar 08, 09:38 AM 2020
Quote from: Mister Eko on Mar 07, 06:56 PM 2020Hard work equal beating roulette, random, and independent events?
Random and independent events cant be beaten. But roulette produce not ideally random events....and that is possible to exploit :)
Title: Re: If you have a HG
Post by: The General on Mar 08, 01:46 PM 2020
Some system junkies that believe that they have witnessed someone playing with the holy grail have actually just encountered an AP masking their play.   Throughout history AP play has often been hidden and disguised as a "system".   
Title: Re: If you have a HG
Post by: Kimo Li on Mar 08, 05:26 PM 2020
Quote from: The General on Mar 08, 01:46 PM 2020
Some system junkies that believe that they have witnessed someone playing with the holy grail have actually just encountered an AP masking their play.   Throughout history AP play has often been hidden and disguised as a "system".

What is your interpretation of AP?
Title: Re: If you have a HG
Post by: Madi on Mar 08, 05:44 PM 2020
Quote from: The General on Mar 08, 01:46 PM 2020
Some system junkies that believe that they have witnessed someone playing with the holy grail have actually just encountered an AP masking their play.   Throughout history AP play has often been hidden and disguised as a "system".

Ohoohooo

One of the many broken wheel junkie say another came on you r the junkie. Hehe. When system player win those junk think in absent mind no no no not possible. This guy must be broken wheel master and his system is cover up. Seen different kind of drunk in life but this is a new addition.
Title: Re: If you have a HG
Post by: The General on Mar 08, 07:48 PM 2020
Quote from: Kimo Li on Mar 08, 05:26 PM 2020
What is your interpretation of AP?

Playing with a real edge over the casino.

Examples in roulette are visual ballistics, computer ballistics, and bias.
Title: Re: If you have a HG
Post by: Kimo Li on Mar 08, 08:54 PM 2020
Quote from: The General on Mar 08, 07:48 PM 2020
Playing with a real edge over the casino.

Examples in roulette are visual ballistics, computer ballistics, and bias.

Thanks for your explanation. I too incorporate in a few of my strategies visual ballistics, probably not in the way you do, still, using ball movement logistics.
Title: Re: If you have a HG
Post by: Clf7 on Mar 08, 09:26 PM 2020
Quote from: Kimo Li on Mar 08, 08:54 PM 2020
Thanks for your explanation. I too incorporate in a few of my strategies visual ballistics, probably not in the way you do, still, using ball movement logistics.

Kimo do you think that any method            ( except from Steves Computers,bias etc) can overcome the Edge? I mean even your doesnt, ofc it doesnt mean that its failing,but overcoming the Edge means that you can play different, for hours until you get banned  :P
Title: Re: If you have a HG
Post by: Kimo Li on Mar 09, 01:18 AM 2020
Quote from: Clf7 on Mar 08, 09:26 PM 2020
Kimo do you think that any method            ( except from Steves Computers,bias etc) can overcome the Edge? I mean even your doesnt, ofc it doesnt mean that its failing,but overcoming the Edge means that you can play different, for hours until you get banned  :P

Not any method can overcome the Edge. One should only play up to 4 spins. You will never get banned.
Title: Re: If you have a HG
Post by: Steve on Mar 09, 02:58 AM 2020
You can't overcome the house edge with random accuracy bets.
Title: Re: If you have a HG
Post by: carvigno on Mar 09, 03:47 AM 2020
Quote from: Steve on Mar 09, 02:58 AM 2020
You can't overcome the house edge with random accuracy bets.

"Things are as they are, they are not as we would like them to be and they are not even as they seem".

Don't be so categorical with your claims, lest you be wrong.
Title: Re: If you have a HG
Post by: Taotie on Mar 09, 04:02 AM 2020
You can't overcome the house edge because it's factored into each winning bet as a form of tax. Just like running a business for profit you must pay your tax but that doesn't mean your business can't be profitable. In fact the more tax you pay the more profitable is your business
Title: Re: If you have a HG
Post by: Taotie on Mar 09, 04:44 AM 2020
No one overcomes the house edge, not even the ballistics/bias players. Even if they win they pay the same tax as all the system players and all the losers.

...you know I'm right.
Title: Re: If you have a HG
Post by: Joe on Mar 09, 04:51 AM 2020
Taotie, I think you're playing semantics here. Of course you know that 'overcoming the house edge' doesn't mean you don't pay the 'tax', it just means that you have a positive edge in your favor which exceeds the house edge. If that were not the case you wouldn't make a profit.
Title: Re: If you have a HG
Post by: Steve on Mar 09, 06:22 AM 2020
If you have an edge, it means you win more than you lose.

If you dont have an edge, it's the opposite. You lose and there's nothing to tax.

Tax is not like the house edge.
Title: Re: If you have a HG
Post by: Kimo Li on Mar 09, 06:56 AM 2020
Quote from: Steve on Mar 09, 02:58 AM 2020
You can't overcome the house edge with random accuracy bets.

That's a bold statement. I can.

Someone had an idea many years ago. The said the can put a man on the moon, controversial at the time.
They did.

Many examples exist where once were thought impossible.
Open your mind.
Title: Re: If you have a HG
Post by: Bebediktus3 on Mar 09, 08:12 AM 2020
Quote from: Kimo Li on Mar 09, 06:56 AM 2020That's a bold statement. I can.
Kimo, you sure you know what is an edge, advantage? You also think, that making negative bets you can get positive results?

There are many who claim that 1+1=3, that earth is flat, that few negative bets gave positive result...to claim is possible what we want, but that is only words, nothing more...
Title: Re: If you have a HG
Post by: Joe on Mar 09, 08:23 AM 2020
Quote from: Kimo Li on Mar 09, 06:56 AM 2020You can't overcome the house edge with random accuracy bets.

That's a bold statement. I can.

'Random accuracy bets' is a rather ambiguous term. I think what Steve means is that you can't overcome the house edge by betting randomly. Is that what you mean, Steve?

Of course, you don't necessarily overcome the house edge by betting non-randomly either. e.g. suppose you're betting streets and always bet the same as the last street which appeared. That's not betting randomly, but it certainly doesn't create an edge in your favor.

If your betting is truly random, then of course you don't have an edge. To overcome the house edge your betting has to have a probability of winning which is higher than implied probability of the odds (payout). ie a payout of 35-1 implies a probability of winning of 1/36.

It follows that you need to find a bet with a probability of 1/36 in order to just break even, meaning that the bet must be non-random and at least one of the numbers you bet on can't be as likely to hit as all the others. If all your numbers have a probability of winning equal to expectation (ie 1/37), then your bet is no better than betting randomly and you'll lose.

So Steve's statement is really just a tautology, like saying 'either you win at roulette or you don't'. It can't be false in any interpretation. So it's absurd for Kimo to claim that he can overcome the house edge with 'random accuracy bets'. He's just digging a deeper hole for himself by demonstrating how clueless he is.

He says : 'open your mind to the possibility that 1 + 1 = 3'  ;D
Title: Re: If you have a HG
Post by: Joe on Mar 09, 08:27 AM 2020
Quote from: Bebediktus3 on Mar 09, 08:12 AM 2020Kimo, you sure you know what is an edge, advantage?

He clearly doesn't. Like in one your previous posts he had to ask you what 3SD meant. He may have an education, but it's certainly not in a STEM field.
Title: Re: If you have a HG
Post by: Mister Eko on Mar 09, 08:53 AM 2020
Guys, it seems you continue in my topic the same shit what you are doing in "statistical inbalance fallacy" topic, arguing with each other who has bigger dikk.

Maybe kimo doesnt know that he bets randomly. He has an edge so these are not random bets. Are you playing randomly or based or based on wheel frequancy, vb?
Title: Re: If you have a HG
Post by: Bebediktus3 on Mar 09, 08:59 AM 2020
Quote from: Mister Eko on Mar 09, 08:53 AM 2020Guys, it seems you continue in my topic the same shit
Oh no, Mister, we simply when he says that sun is rising in the west, notice, that he is not right, that such is not possible...that is all what we do, no matter that you that very not like...
Title: Re: If you have a HG
Post by: Bebediktus3 on Mar 09, 09:09 AM 2020
Quote from: Mister Eko on Mar 09, 08:53 AM 2020Are you playing randomly or based or based on wheel frequancy, vb?
How we play have no relationship with matter about what talk is. Are some elementary logic and if we will claim that 1+1=3, that will not give benefit for anybody. Some thinkings are simply wrong. Why write wrong things, wrong mindes?
Title: Re: If you have a HG
Post by: Mister Eko on Mar 09, 09:20 AM 2020
Quote from: Bebediktus3 on Mar 09, 09:09 AM 2020
How we play have no relationship with matter about what talk is. Are some elementary logic and if we will claim that 1+1=3, that will not give benefit for anybody. Some thinkings are simply wrong. Why write wrong things, wrong mindes?

In this world you cant know what is wrong what is right, which thinks are wrong and which are right. These are just opinions.
And it is not 1+1=3.
Title: Re: If you have a HG
Post by: Bebediktus3 on Mar 09, 09:37 AM 2020
Quote from: Mister Eko on Mar 09, 09:20 AM 2020In this world you cant know what is wrong what is right, which thinks are wrong and which are right.
Strange thinking. We have some aim and we see if what we do let us be more near to it or the opposite. So how I can't know what is good what is bad?
I think here all understand all, simply are a group of peoples which have another aim, than players :). And they try from all forces, that as many peoples will not understand the right things...

And they put all forces that to prevent to open eyes ...
Title: Re: If you have a HG
Post by: Joe on Mar 09, 10:34 AM 2020
Quote from: Bebediktus3 on Mar 09, 09:37 AM 2020In this world you cant know what is wrong what is right, which thinks are wrong and which are right.

Strange thinking.

It's weird isn't it? It seems to be believed, especially by young people who have grown up in a politically correct world obsessed with 'equality', that because 'everyone is entitled to their opinion' it means that all opinions are somehow equally valid. Of course that's nonsense. 

As Douglas Adams said :

“All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust, sophisticated and well supported in logic and argument than others.”

Someone else (I forget who) also said : "You are entitled to your own opinions but not your own facts".

It's also a dangerous attitude because if there is no right or wrong, but just opinions, then those who gain the most power are not those who come up with the most pertinent facts and arguments, but those who threaten, intimidate, use violence etc. ie any non-rational method of 'persuasion'. That's not a world I want to live in.
Title: Re: If you have a HG
Post by: Joe on Mar 09, 10:37 AM 2020
Quote from: Mister Eko on Mar 09, 08:53 AM 2020arguing with each other who has bigger dikk.

Ok, let's settle this once and for all :  I do.
Title: Re: If you have a HG
Post by: Clf7 on Mar 09, 11:12 AM 2020
Quote from: Kimo Li on Mar 09, 06:56 AM 2020
That's a bold statement. I can.

Someone had an idea many years ago. The said the can put a man on the moon, controversial at the time.
They did.

Many examples exist where once were thought impossible.
Open your mind.

So kimo If you have an Edge,you could play theoretically your method for hours,right?
Title: Re: If you have a HG
Post by: Bebediktus3 on Mar 09, 11:22 AM 2020
We here not discuss is life on Mars or not, not discuss can man fly by mind force...
We discuss very elementary things, about math things, where all can be counted, or calculated.
Problem is that most who come to roulette in math not know even elementary things which normally pupils pass in school... They understand their problem , but they are lazy to take a book, read, learn...

For them are much more simple to say that are other mathematic, other probabilities, or such things do not exist at all :)
Title: Re: If you have a HG
Post by: Kimo Li on Mar 09, 03:10 PM 2020
Quote from: Clf7 on Mar 09, 11:12 AM 2020
So kimo If you have an Edge,you could play theoretically your method for hours,right?

Infinity...
Title: Re: If you have a HG
Post by: Clf7 on Mar 09, 03:36 PM 2020
Quote from: Kimo Li on Mar 09, 03:10 PM 2020
Infinity...

So why are you playing only few spins to make money and not more to make even more money with a lower Bankroll?
Title: Re: If you have a HG
Post by: Taotie on Mar 09, 05:28 PM 2020
Quote from: Joe on Mar 09, 10:37 AM 2020Ok, let's settle this once and for all :  I do.
I have a tattoo on mine, it reads 'Welcome to Jamaica, and have a nice time.'
Title: Re: If you have a HG
Post by: Kimo Li on Mar 09, 08:01 PM 2020
Quote from: Clf7 on Mar 09, 03:36 PM 2020
So why are you playing only few spins to make money and not more to make even more money with a lower Bankroll?

If one has the ability to make their goal in a few spins, say one thousand to three thousand a day, why would anyone stay longer than that?

An average of 2,000.0 per day calculates to 730,000.00 per year. Realistically, taking days off and a lot of "working" vacations it's more like 480,000.00 per year.

Only a compulsive gambler will sit at the table for long periods of time, playing multiple sessions. You can have the best strategy in the world, but if you can control your gambling you will lose, being tired, drinking, among other factors.

My point is yes you can sit there infinity and make massive money. The whole idea is to make only what you need in a short period of time.
Title: Re: If you have a HG
Post by: Clf7 on Mar 09, 08:05 PM 2020
Quote from: Kimo Li on Mar 09, 08:01 PM 2020
If one has the ability to make their goal in a few spins, say one thousand to three thousand a day, why would anyone stay longer than that?

An average of 2,000.0 per day calculates to 730,000.00 per year. Realistically, taking days off and a lot of "working" vacations it's more like 480,000.00 per year.

Only a compulsive gambler will sit at the table for long periods of time, playing multiple sessions. You can have the best strategy in the world, but if you can control your gambling you will lose, being tired, drinking, among other factors.

My point is yes you can sit there infinity and make massive money. The whole idea is to make only what you need in a short period of time.

So you could play basically with a 5K BR and make 2K dollar instead of 200 dollar a day..... your point is that playing to much or to long means you can make mistakes or finally become a gambler.I get your point and i agree 100%.
Title: Re: If you have a HG
Post by: Kimo Li on Mar 09, 08:11 PM 2020
Quote from: Clf7 on Mar 09, 08:05 PM 2020
So you could play basically with a 5K BR and make 2K dollar instead of 200 dollar a day..... your point is that playing to much or to long means you can make mistakes or finally become a gambler.I get your point and i agree 100%.

I meant to say if you CANNOT control your gambling...
Title: Re: If you have a HG
Post by: Steve on Mar 09, 08:26 PM 2020
Kimo already said his system gives random bet accuracy. So whether you use his system or bet randomly, the results are much the same.
Title: Re: If you have a HG
Post by: Clf7 on Mar 09, 08:35 PM 2020
Quote from: Steve on Mar 09, 08:26 PM 2020
Kimo already said his system gives random bet accuracy. So whether you use his system or bet randomly, the results are much the same.

Ye, kimo could you explain please how you meant that?
Title: Re: If you have a HG
Post by: Steve on Mar 09, 08:57 PM 2020
He said only he knows the secret of making random bets better than random bets. He wont tell it to anyone unless they buy his HG. You dont get proof before sending payment. And if you dont send money on blind faith, that's part of his vetting process.

And I'm sure there are some people dumb enough to believe it.
Title: Re: If you have a HG
Post by: Mister Eko on Mar 09, 10:16 PM 2020
Something strange is with there with rhis hg. If it is money maker, I would be there 8 hours to make 8,000 per day, and dont stop making 2,000. The money is never enough and thats fact. If you could make monthly 120,000 or 50,000 what would you choose? Yee baby, the first immediately.

Steve, if random bets are winning constantly, they are not random bets anymore. In my opinion. If I bet consciously, it cant be random neither.

Clf7 hardly believes kimo li has the only person who has hg, so pless steve, what is your opinion about that you buy kimo li hg for 2,000? We would see who has right. You has more money than us probably, would you be so kind buy the hg flr the forum?

Thanks.
Title: Re: If you have a HG
Post by: Clf7 on Mar 09, 10:23 PM 2020
Quote from: Mister Eko on Mar 09, 10:16 PM 2020
Something strange is with there with rhis hg. If it is money maker, I would be there 8 hours to make 8,000 per day, and dont stop making 2,000. The money is never enough and thats fact. If you could make monthly 120,000 or 50,000 what would you choose? Yee baby, the first immediately.

Steve, if random bets are winning constantly, they are not random bets anymore. In my opinion. If I bet consciously, it cant be random neither.

Clf7 hardly believes kimo li has the only person who has hg, so pless steve, what is your opinion about that you buy kimo li hg for 2,000? We would see who has right. You has more money than us probably, would you be so kind buy the hg flr the forum?

Thanks.

No i think that maybe he has the only HG "system"/strategy except Steve's that is available public on the web for almost everybody(ofc If you have the money).I know steve would say i dont have any proof and he would be right, i believe in it because of his book etc, i cant prove anything.
Title: Re: If you have a HG
Post by: number25 on Mar 09, 10:41 PM 2020
Quote from: Mister Eko on Mar 09, 10:16 PM 2020
Something strange is with there with rhis hg. If it is money maker, I would be there 8 hours to make 8,000 per day, and dont stop making 2,000. The money is never enough and thats fact. If you could make monthly 120,000 or 50,000 what would you choose? Yee baby, the first immediately.

Steve, if random bets are winning constantly, they are not random bets anymore. In my opinion. If I bet consciously, it cant be random neither.

Clf7 hardly believes kimo li has the only person who has hg, so pless steve, what is your opinion about that you buy kimo li hg for 2,000? We would see who has right. You has more money than us probably, would you be so kind buy the hg flr the forum?

Thanks.
You can not find anything about Kimo Li being a scammer. 

If you loss 2K how would you vent about it? 

So I'm guessing he has something & you need to take a Leap of Faith.

But you can read Learning Kimo Li Way has a whole lot of good free Info to beat roulette.
Title: Re: If you have a HG
Post by: Steve on Mar 09, 10:41 PM 2020
Quote from: Mister Eko on Mar 09, 10:16 PM 2020Steve, if random bets are winning constantly, they are not random bets anymore

What's "constantly"? A few months, which is maybe 2000 spins. Haven't you ever seen a system on software like roulettextreme profit after 5000 and even much more spins, despite the system being crap?

Quote from: Mister Eko on Mar 09, 10:16 PM 2020what is your opinion about that you buy kimo li hg for 2,000? We would see who has right. You has more money than us probably, would you be so kind buy the hg flr the forum?

As I said before, if I saw some convincing evidence Kimo had something special, I would buy it. But all so-called evidence he provided indicates his claims are false. Reads what I wrote.

Title: Re: If you have a HG
Post by: Steve on Mar 09, 10:43 PM 2020
Quote from: number25 on Mar 09, 10:41 PM 2020you can read Learning Kimo Li Way has a whole lot of good free Info to beat roulette.

Like what?

Magical star patterns that look cool but are completely useless?

I've seen enough of Kimo's material to see why inexperienced people are fooled. It looks like cool stuff, but that's all.
Title: Re: If you have a HG
Post by: Mister Eko on Mar 09, 10:56 PM 2020
But it is true too, that on the internet nobady said, that kimo li is a scammer, so something strange is happening here, but I am curious. Yes I think he has something special, maybe just a tool to play, but steve has right too that methkds can crush even after 10 000 spins to 0 and  minus.
This is roulette guys!
Title: Re: If you have a HG
Post by: number25 on Mar 10, 12:40 AM 2020
Quote from: Steve on Mar 09, 10:43 PM 2020
Like what?

Magical star patterns that look cool but are completely useless?

I've seen enough of Kimo's material to see why inexperienced people are fooled. It looks like cool stuff, but that's all.

You have to open up your mind!

I might have a chance to go play tomorrow & Let's see what star patterns do for me .  Want to play 4 leaf clover & drown out the noise with stars to pick the bets numbers to play.

Title: Re: If you have a HG
Post by: Steve on Mar 10, 12:57 AM 2020
Quote from: number25 on Mar 10, 12:40 AM 2020You have to open up your mind!

Believe me, I'm a hell of a lot more open-minded than 99% of people. The problem isn't me being open. Re-read what I've said.

Quote from: number25 on Mar 10, 12:40 AM 2020I might have a chance to go play tomorrow & Let's see what star patterns do for me

So if you win, it's proof it works. If you lose, it's proof it's a scam. Right?
Title: Re: If you have a HG
Post by: Mister Eko on Mar 10, 05:53 AM 2020
Open up your mind? This is thebiggest excuse is something not work for someone and for other yes.

So number25, where is open mind starting for you, seeing what ?
Title: Re: If you have a HG
Post by: number25 on Mar 10, 09:51 AM 2020
Quote from: Steve on Mar 10, 12:57 AM 2020
Believe me, I'm a hell of a lot more open-minded than 99% of people. The problem isn't me being open. Re-read what I've said.

So if you win, it's proof it works. If you lose, it's proof it's a scam. Right?

His whole book is about different approach on roulette. 

When you study it that opens your mind.  Some do not get it.

The scam part is a NO! 

I play & win & lose . It's gambling,  but keep it in check helps. 

You just can't believe how stars & pies can beat roulette! But some do believe!

Enjoy your day & happy roulette

Title: Re: If you have a HG
Post by: Bebediktus3 on Mar 10, 10:59 AM 2020
Quote from: number25 on Mar 10, 09:51 AM 2020You just can't believe how stars & pies can beat roulette! But some do believe!
If you believe and that helps you that is - perfect! Do you know what is a placebo ?
But I very doubt that when you will go to the doctor with a toothache and he will give you sweet and say - eat it and all will be good, that you will be the same happy  :).
And remember we always can do test - you use stars & pies and we all look how they help you :) . That is so simple and after that test return to discussion :)
Title: Re: If you have a HG
Post by: number25 on Mar 10, 02:32 PM 2020
Went to casino today & was playing PW.  Then while playing PW i was seeing dominant and sub-dominant stars. There is one in each PW section so I was betting those #.  Then I was playing dozen that was on the run.  With Odd & Even numbers & black/ Red.

So the stars was a guide with Odd & even plus black & red. 

Made profit and exit! 

Kimo Li gives the player so many different ways to think about roulette  #.    It all takes time to see those patterns.   

This open your mind!

Recap I was playing PW Stars & dominant and sub-dominant stars.
Plus dozens black /  red.

Thanks Kimo Li
Title: Re: If you have a HG
Post by: number25 on Mar 10, 02:33 PM 2020
Quote from: Bebediktus3 on Mar 10, 10:59 AM 2020
If you believe and that helps you that is - perfect! Do you know what is a placebo ?
But I very doubt that when you will go to the doctor with a toothache and he will give you sweet and say - eat it and all will be good, that you will be the same happy  :).
And remember we always can do test - you use stars & pies and we all look how they help you :) . That is so simple and after that test return to discussion :)

LMFAO!   :)
Title: Re: If you have a HG
Post by: Kimo Li on Mar 10, 02:53 PM 2020
Quote from: number25 on Mar 10, 02:32 PM 2020
Went to casino today & was playing PW.  Then while playing PW i was seeing dominant and sub-dominant stars. There is one in each PW section so I was betting those #.  Then I was playing dozen that was on the run.  With Odd & Even numbers & black/ Red.

So the stars was a guide with Odd & even plus black & red. 

Made profit and exit! 

Kimo Li gives the player so many different ways to think about roulette  #.    It all takes time to see those patterns.   

This open your mind!

Recap I was playing PW Stars & dominant and sub-dominant stars.
Plus dozens black /  red.

Thanks Kimo Li

You are welcome. Well done.
Title: Re: If you have a HG
Post by: Bebediktus3 on Mar 10, 02:58 PM 2020
Quote from: number25 on Mar 10, 02:32 PM 2020Made profit and exit! 
I continue playing, till I have an edge , till I am not tired, till casino not notice me  :)

Like you do do the same when you build house :) . Put one stone and enough :)
Title: Re: If you have a HG
Post by: Logical life on Mar 27, 10:02 PM 2020
Nobody does have HG except the man from.barcelona the Sergio aka Astrid Cruz aka passion rouletta and many more other names..😀😀
Title: Re: If you have a HG
Post by: Troykit on Mar 27, 10:06 PM 2020
Quote from: Logical life on Mar 27, 10:02 PM 2020
Nobody does have HG except the man from.barcelona the Sergio aka Astrid Cruz aka passion rouletta and many more other names..😀😀
Can't agree more...you are absolutely right friend
Title: Re: If you have a HG
Post by: Steve on Mar 28, 12:44 AM 2020
.. and here comes troykit, with an obvious proxy.

Stop scamming people.
Title: Re: If you have a HG
Post by: Troykit on Mar 28, 02:08 AM 2020
What do you mean Steve?? I didn't get you
Title: Re: If you have a HG
Post by: Steve on Mar 29, 06:31 PM 2020
You're new, with an obvious proxy, and have the typical red flags of being a duplicate account.
Title: Re: If you have a HG
Post by: MumboJumbo on Mar 30, 04:10 AM 2020
Price is 100 000â,¬
If 100 member pay me 1000â,¬ I will sell.
Title: Re: If you have a HG
Post by: Roulettebeater on Mar 30, 05:42 AM 2020
Quote from: MumboJumbo on Mar 30, 04:10 AM 2020
Price is 100 000â,¬
If 100 member pay me 1000â,¬ I will sell.

you need to be spanked 10000 times by 100 members
Title: Re: If you have a HG
Post by: MumboJumbo on Mar 30, 12:38 PM 2020
Dear members, please stop sending me private messages about price, lets talk open in this thread, thank you.
Title: Re: If you have a HG
Post by: Mister Eko on Mar 30, 12:42 PM 2020
Quote from: MumboJumbo on Mar 30, 04:10 AM 2020
Price is 100 000â,¬
If 100 member pay me 1000â,¬ I will sell.

Sell what?
Title: Re: If you have a HG
Post by: holy roller on Apr 02, 04:33 PM 2020
I have purchased Kimo's PW. I have not had the chance to purchase his knowledge because it is out of my price range, but I do wish I could learn from him.

I have gleaned enough information off of this and other roulette forums to determine a manner in which to play the PW. I have used it online and in the casinos and I have made small profits every time.

I only play with a $200 BR and walk away with $40 to $120, and it happens very quickly.  Is it going to win everyday and every time? Probably not. I believe even Kimo has acknowledged as much. I thought I read somewhere that he does not play more than 12 spins... win or lose. Pretty solid advice if you are not a gambler.

I think it is funny how people say you can't do something. Those are usually the same people who are not doing anything. (waiting for butt hurt replies now  :D )

I had a best friend in high school many decades ago that built a remote car door unlock. Back then people said it could not be done, and that was a long time ago. Not bad for a high school kid to accomplish the "unthinkable". Now car keyless entry are on all new cars. He owns his own company selling his medical equipment around the world now.

If an idiot like me can glean just enough information off of the internet to make even a little sense out of Kimo's programs I would think that all of the so-called "roulette authorities" here would be able to do soooo much more with that same information.

So far all I have heard is some people say it ain't so.... without even trying as far as I can tell.

If I want to find out if something is true or not... I research it.

I have seen on at least a couple of forums where Kimo has given some tips and even a small version of his spreadsheets.

I am curious... if you have not taken the time to look into this information and information from other players then what makes you qualified to comment if you have never even tried with the information that is already given? What's more is if you have never tried then why should we even listen to you?

I have studied. I continue to study and I have won. I think people should open their minds and investigate and study. You might be surprised what you find.

If I really knew how to play the PW I am sure I would be even more impressed than I am with what I already know. Thanks to everyone who has posted on forums giving players like me the ability to learn from your hard work.

Title: Re: If you have a HG
Post by: Mister Eko on Jan 14, 06:44 AM 2021
What would you do if YOU would have a real profitable method? Would you only stay at online casinos or would you travel around the world, collecting money from all possible casinos? It is feasible at all? I mean, hotels, airplane tickets, sometimes losiing days, but overall can be worth to make a business like that or this is dead idea? Say a yearly 50-100 casinos to visit for 3 days, and say overall 5-10k profit/casino. What would you do, just theoritically?