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Title: If 16 repeats
Post by: nottophammer on Apr 10, 12:36 PM 2020
If 16 repeats happens more often than not, in 40 spins.
How will you win on those 16 repeats?

Perhaps Turbo will answer. Don't hold your breath, I think he stears clear of here now.

How repeats come over 40 spins (and we're not wanking over them Taotie) You'll likely see in blocks of 10 spins; they come in 1-3-5-7= 16.

If you get the 16 repeats in 40 spins; then you've had 24 of the starting 37 hit.
Is 24 not what the General calls flaw of the third in 37 spins. Where the 13 spins are your repeats. So those 3 extra spins are repeats? if 16 repeats are the average for 40 spins.

So, how you going to be plus winning with the 16 repeats.

Here's 4 games or just 1 game of 102 spins. Winning with 16 repeats

Title: Re: If 16 repeats
Post by: nottophammer on Apr 10, 01:50 PM 2020
8 games now or is it just 1 game of 174 spins.
Title: Re: If 16 repeats
Post by: nottophammer on Apr 10, 03:58 PM 2020
20 games or just 1 game to the experts of 302 spins. +513
Title: Re: If 16 repeats
Post by: MumboJumbo on Apr 10, 04:19 PM 2020
Is it worth to play repeats?
Title: Re: If 16 repeats
Post by: Mister Eko on Apr 10, 05:57 PM 2020
Probably he ended with losing bankroll.
Title: Re: If 16 repeats
Post by: nottophammer on Apr 10, 06:21 PM 2020
Quote from: MumboJumbo on Apr 10, 04:19 PM 2020
Is it worth to play repeats?

You and the general, more than likely not
Quote from: Mister Eko on Apr 10, 05:57 PM 2020
Probably he ended with losing bankroll.
Not yet
Title: Re: If 16 repeats
Post by: nottophammer on Apr 10, 06:23 PM 2020
MJ & EKO
come up with any way of winning on the known average of 16 repeats.
Title: Re: If 16 repeats
Post by: jono1167 on Apr 10, 06:44 PM 2020
Great results Notto. Would love to see you post more results.
Title: Re: If 16 repeats
Post by: nottophammer on Apr 10, 06:45 PM 2020
MJ & EKO
15 consecutive non-hits. If you know how to play KTF, you'd have won.
So, from KTF data and the idiot the General's posted 10'330 live spins, data shows repeats average to hit in blocks of 10 spins, as 1-3-5-7.
These 20 spins has the 4 repeats and i win. HOW??
Title: Re: If 16 repeats
Post by: jono1167 on Apr 10, 06:51 PM 2020
Quote from: nottophammer on Apr 10, 12:36 PM 2020
If 16 repeats happens more often than not, in 40 spins.
How will you win on those 16 repeats?


How would I win knowing there are 16 repeats? If you were playing for 40 spins and the 16 repeats came as expected, then you would have to survive the 24 losing spins. Let’s have a think about it....
Title: Re: If 16 repeats
Post by: nottophammer on Apr 10, 06:54 PM 2020
This is early days; perhaps not for the faint hearted; betting repeats you might need Turbos' time machine
Title: Re: If 16 repeats
Post by: nottophammer on Apr 10, 07:03 PM 2020
This is a test I did in November.  I tested over 1 million single zero RNG spins and got this:

2    3210
3    6251
4    9017
5    10906
6    12398
7    12852
8    12454
9    11478
10    10007

Steefan; MJ &EKO
Does this help. Vaddi fans should see something here; that will help getting 16 repeats in 40 spins.

Would Shawn see anythink the poster of the data
Title: Re: If 16 repeats
Post by: jono1167 on Apr 10, 07:04 PM 2020
Quote from: nottophammer on Apr 10, 06:45 PM 2020
MJ & EKO
15 consecutive non-hits. If you know how to play KTF, you'd have won.
So, from KTF data and the idiot the General's posted 10'330 live spins, data shows repeats average to hit in blocks of 10 spins, as 1-3-5-7.
These 20 spins has the 4 repeats and i win. HOW??

Easy, 15 consecutive non-hits. Repeats are due! Easy winnings there.
Title: Re: If 16 repeats
Post by: nottophammer on Apr 10, 07:31 PM 2020
Can you see the repeats come. Not always to a perfect 1-3-5-7. But work with it :thumbsup:
See if the run can get 100 wins; it's 32 out of 32
Title: Re: If 16 repeats
Post by: Mister Eko on Apr 10, 07:37 PM 2020
Nottorious, the 1 3 5 7 can change to 3 5 3 5. Just an example. There are sweet spots where you can bet and win everytime.
16 Repeats in 40 spins means the perfect game within 10 spin ranges

link:s://:.roulettelife.com/index.php/topic,2584.0.html
Title: Re: If 16 repeats
Post by: SWEET on Apr 11, 12:00 AM 2020
my 1cent.
Assume
40spins has 16hit.
Then we play a game.
Inside a box, there 24 marble marked "NR",= no repeat, and 16marble marked 'R' =repeat.
I take one marble out, and cast aside, )not putting back into the bag),
then how you bet?

Very simple..
Title: Re: If 16 repeats
Post by: nottophammer on Apr 11, 04:23 AM 2020
Knowing or following the score
Title: Re: If 16 repeats
Post by: Steeefan2014 on Apr 11, 04:35 AM 2020
$80.000 phone! Good one!  :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
Title: Re: If 16 repeats
Post by: nottophammer on Apr 11, 04:45 AM 2020
Or borrow Turbos' time machine.
Title: Re: If 16 repeats
Post by: Steeefan2014 on Apr 11, 04:49 AM 2020
Quote from: nottophammer on Apr 11, 04:45 AM 2020
Or borrow Turbos' time machine.

Actually I could use a time machine... I have a few bets that I'ld like to change :)
Title: Re: If 16 repeats
Post by: nottophammer on Apr 11, 03:11 PM 2020
At 55 games, there was 22 games; what I call TFAR(taken for a ride).
You can see the last 6 games are all TFAR.
Do R-sim have the capability to try and make the method lose.
It's taking some niffty betting to get the win, now.

It was running 60/40 in favour of the method; but now its around 55/45.

What do you think?
Title: Re: If 16 repeats
Post by: nottophammer on Apr 11, 03:49 PM 2020
Hmm last 8 games only 2 TFAR; just luck of the draw
Title: Re: If 16 repeats
Post by: Mister Eko on Apr 11, 03:59 PM 2020
Notto.

Dont play this cartoon game, test real casino spins the method, so you can make more details about the strategy.
Title: Re: If 16 repeats
Post by: publa on Apr 11, 05:02 PM 2020
Hi Notto,
excuse my may be stupid question, but why have you chosen the cycle of 40 spins and not for example 37?
Any special reason for it? Thanks.
Title: Re: If 16 repeats
Post by: nottophammer on Apr 12, 03:23 AM 2020
Mister Eko
Why not use R-sim? It's 1 up on the gold standard MPR that the General champions. Don't both use RNG?
Is the algo: designed for me too win? There's so many negative accounts; so why should I only test supposed supplied live spins.

I tried MPR yesterday 3 spins and freeze. SO, I refreshed and laid those numbers and won on 3rd spin and left, untill the freese issue and other issues are sorted; then MPR is a waste of time. Why don't steve get the R-sim boys to sort it. To pay he could throw up millions of adds like he's doing now. Different adds galore
Title: Re: If 16 repeats
Post by: nottophammer on Apr 12, 03:31 AM 2020
publa

I was just not a math boy. Didn't give thought to the 37 cycle. Just used 10 spins, as most things are units of 10. Like in EU currency; 10 digits on hands and feet, if cant both hands. Metric measurement is 10.
So that's why blocks of 10; works quite nice, for me anyway.

Those repeats in the 40 spins, 1-3-5-7 and 30 at 60 spins is fine for me.

And Publa the best thing about that data is the General gave 10'330 star burst spins and the 1-3-5-7=16 repeats is there.  Good old KTF General or as he likes to say the KFC; whatever.
Title: Re: If 16 repeats
Post by: nottophammer on Apr 12, 04:51 AM 2020
Well thats 80 games won or just 1 big game of 958 spins.

See the game with 24 spins; thats a TFAR. 9 games now where the Vaddi part comes in to the 16 repeats.
Oops don't want to give the game away.
Title: Re: If 16 repeats
Post by: nottophammer on Apr 12, 11:37 AM 2020
Not bad.
Title: Re: If 16 repeats
Post by: Richard Meisel on Apr 12, 01:00 PM 2020
No mathematical formula can overcome the odds of any given number coming up at 1 in 37. There is a FINITE number of 38 Spins on an American wheel with 38 numbers. That number is 2 to the 38th power which is EXACTLY 274,877,906,944. That is a very high number, in the trillions. That is the number of possibilities of 38 numbers in a row. Somewhere in that number is 38 consecutive REDS, or EVENS, or number 3. So ANY 38 Spins is 1 in trillions. As to how many Repeats there are in say 40 Spins, there could be 40 Repeats, the next number will ALWAYS be 1 in 37. And the number of 2 straight numbers from scratch is 1 in 1,444. So in the long run, everything loses because of the table limits. But in the short run, with Proper Stops, and Proper Targets, and with Proper reading of the RANDOMNESS (there is Random in the short run but not in the long run of the trillions) you can beat the casinos. Please be nice with any reply. It took a long time for me to be a nice guy.
Title: Re: If 16 repeats
Post by: nottophammer on Apr 13, 01:36 PM 2020
Jono
This goes in line with the mail
Title: Re: If 16 repeats
Post by: nottophammer on Apr 28, 10:09 AM 2020
Steeefan
You know the options. Like winkel shows, spin 13 could have 2 repeats. It's +55 at spin 12.
Option reset. Would have been right choice. 1st repeat, bit late, but 3 more could come, remember non-hits at this stage of the game have an average of 2 spin.
Title: Re: If 16 repeats
Post by: nottophammer on Apr 28, 10:23 AM 2020
target reached.
Title: Re: If 16 repeats
Post by: Ross on Apr 28, 04:37 PM 2020
Woohoo! Minus 2970!!!

What size of bet was required to get out of that hole?
Title: Re: If 16 repeats
Post by: Steeefan2014 on Apr 28, 04:53 PM 2020
Quote from: Ross on Apr 28, 04:37 PM 2020
Woohoo! Minus 2970!!!

What size of bet was required to get out of that hole?

A brain size bet! A larger one than your brain size if you got that much  on minus,  that's for sure!
Title: Re: If 16 repeats
Post by: nottophammer on May 18, 08:52 AM 2020
??
Title: Re: If 16 repeats
Post by: JOBLIN on May 19, 04:56 PM 2020
The problem with this, is that 16 repeats is the AVERAGE in 40 spins.

Obviously there will be more than a couple, but what is the minimum number of repeats in 40 spins, and can we win that way without an insane negative progression?

I was trying to work on a way to win in 37 spins, knowing that there would be 5 repeats minimum, as anything less than that would be an astronomically small chance. 
Title: Re: If 16 repeats
Post by: nottophammer on May 20, 05:56 AM 2020
What you can do if you know how to read the TROT

Title: Re: If 16 repeats
Post by: SamNL on May 22, 03:55 AM 2020
Quote from: Ross on Apr 28, 04:37 PM 2020
Woohoo! Minus 2970!!!

What size of bet was required to get out of that hole?
His starting BR is 3000, so getting to 2970 only makes it a minus 30 and definitely not a minus 2970.
Title: Re: If 16 repeats
Post by: nottophammer on May 22, 01:21 PM 2020
Sam what will he make of the drawdown
Just follow the TROT
Title: Re: If 16 repeats
Post by: nottophammer on Jun 02, 06:05 AM 2020
Jono
Your 1st game on R-sim today.
Turbo's part3, how much would you win by spin 48. The 30-30
Title: Re: If 16 repeats
Post by: FreeRoulette on Mar 06, 01:39 AM 2021
Quote from: nottophammer on Apr 10, 12:36 PM 2020
If 16 repeats happens more often than not, in 40 spins.
How will you win on those 16 repeats?

Perhaps Turbo will answer. Don't hold your breath, I think he stears clear of here now.

How repeats come over 40 spins (and we're not wanking over them Taotie) You'll likely see in blocks of 10 spins; they come in 1-3-5-7= 16.

If you get the 16 repeats in 40 spins; then you've had 24 of the starting 37 hit.
Is 24 not what the General calls flaw of the third in 37 spins. Where the 13 spins are your repeats. So those 3 extra spins are repeats? if 16 repeats are the average for 40 spins.

So, how you going to be plus winning with the 16 repeats.

Here's 4 games or just 1 game of 102 spins. Winning with 16 repeats

I tested 10 million trials to see how many numbers it takes to get a repeat.

unique numbers : percentage of the time it happens.

1 2.64
2 5.13
3 7.3
4 8.94
5 9.99
6 10.43
7 10.24
8 9.54
9 8.49
10 7.19
11 5.83
12 4.51
13 3.35
14 2.37
15 1.61
16 1.03
17 0.64
18 0.37
19 0.21
20 0.11
21 0.05
22 0.03
23 0.01

Above shows that 6 unique numbers followed by a repeat happen 10.43 percent.

Python code
import random
from array import array

repeatCounts = []
for x in range(1,40):
    repeatCounts.append(0)

for x in range(1,10000000):
    spins = []
    numberUp = random.randint(1,38);
    while numberUp not in spins:
        spins.append(numberUp)
        numberUp = random.randint(1,38);
    repeatCounts[len(spins)]+=1
       
sumx = sum(repeatCounts)
for x in range(1,len(repeatCounts)):
    if repeatCounts[x]>0:
        percent = round((repeatCounts[x]/sumx)*100,2)
        print(str(x)+" "+str(percent))



Title: Re: If 16 repeats
Post by: nottophammer on Mar 06, 03:55 AM 2021
link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=14735.30
The OP is on now
Reply bottom of page.
Title: Re: If 16 repeats
Post by: nottophammer on Nov 22, 02:45 PM 2021
Jono
You should understand. Don't know if Ross will?
18; +2
Title: Re: If 16 repeats
Post by: nottophammer on Nov 23, 06:15 AM 2021
Jono is it rare to be -6 at 40 spins.
30 non-hits usually shows at 60 spins. Not 40
Title: Re: If 16 repeats
Post by: Ross on Nov 23, 04:13 PM 2021
Quote from: nottophammer on Nov 23, 06:15 AM 202130 non-hits usually shows at 60 spins. Not 40
Just more NottoNonsense.

With random numbers only a fool would "expect" anything.  It's just guessing.
Title: Re: If 16 repeats
Post by: TRD on Nov 23, 10:08 PM 2021
Nottosense
NottoSense
NottoSeinsei
Title: Re: If 16 repeats
Post by: nottophammer on Nov 24, 07:31 AM 2021
This is a game by strike 666 on R-sim so for the General or aka Dr Sir anyone, no curve fitting.
The 1-3-5-7=16 repeats I don't think some will ever see how to use it.
Here it's 9/10; add 9+15=24. Strikes game had 22 of the starting 37, Non-hit are -2. Or repeats +2. Easy.
Title: Re: If 16 repeats
Post by: nottophammer on Nov 24, 07:44 AM 2021
What does member Huskadu don't know if that's how he spells it.
But he says often only see's 2 repeats in 20 spins.
Well here it is.
If it ended with just 1 repeat, how far might it have gone? Luck of the Irish shows it might only be 5 repeats in 37 spins.
That's rare.
Title: Re: If 16 repeats
Post by: nottophammer on Nov 24, 07:56 AM 2021
Happy days
Title: Re: If 16 repeats
Post by: Roulettebeater on Nov 24, 10:36 AM 2021
Quote from: nottophammer on Nov 24, 07:56 AM 2021
Happy days

Hey notto

Have you  finally managed to get some working systems ?
Title: Re: If 16 repeats
Post by: nottophammer on Nov 24, 11:14 AM 2021
Roulettebleater
you must wait for me; last post by you oct/8
If i did you'd be last to get told
Title: Re: If 16 repeats
Post by: nottophammer on Nov 24, 01:09 PM 2021
Huskerdu only 2 repeats.
Title: Re: If 16 repeats
Post by: nottophammer on Nov 24, 01:48 PM 2021
Yes Ross its just guessing :)
Title: Re: If 16 repeats
Post by: nottophammer on Nov 24, 03:43 PM 2021
If you can count
Title: Re: If 16 repeats
Post by: nottophammer on Nov 26, 06:16 AM 2021
Yiogi
Red how many can bet on FOBT before max bet.
Blue the known maximum spins to hit.

Remember those average to hit scores 19th-26th-30th
Title: Re: If 16 repeats
Post by: nottophammer on Nov 26, 07:32 AM 2021
Data
Not enough collected I suppose.
Title: Re: If 16 repeats
Post by: nottophammer on Nov 26, 12:25 PM 2021
Where were the repeats?
Title: Re: If 16 repeats
Post by: nottophammer on Nov 26, 06:56 PM 2021
Ross
Is it just guessing or does data for non-hits show the way
Title: Re: If 16 repeats
Post by: blacktiger on Apr 25, 01:23 AM 2022
can you explain this system ?