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Title: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: SWEET on Apr 11, 09:23 AM 2020
While surfing this forum, I stumbled this.
This how you master random vs non random...
For those, wondering, how his mind work,
read for million times,
:twisted: :smile:
I bet, you will thank your luck!
I think Sensei Li knows who I am... long time no see.  :twisted:

Quote from: Kimo Li on Apr 14, 01:22 PM 2017
No one in their right mind would give up their signature event. But, I will give you an example of basic events.
You see, events are created, non-random. Create you own event. Apply it when you see it.


RBRBRBRB
LHLHLHLH
OEOEOEOE

Spins
07
04
32
30
05
21
09
07

Events
R-O-L
B-E-H
R-O-L
B-E-H
R-O-L
B-E-H
R-O-L
B-E-H

Spins and RB Event
-07-R-R-W
-04-B-B-W
-32-R-R-W
-30-R-B-L
-05-R-R-W
-21-R-B-L
-09-R-R-W
-07-R-B-L

Spins and OE Event
-07-O-O-W
-04-E-E-W
-32-E-O-L
-30-E-E-W
-05-O-O-W
-21-O-E-L
-09-O-O-W
-07-O-E-L

Spins and LH Event
-07-L-L-W
-04-L-H-L
-32-H-L-L
-30-H-H-W
-05-L-L-W
-21-H-H-W
-09-L-L-W
-07-L-H-L
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: SWEET on Apr 11, 09:51 AM 2020
When I read that page,
its my .."EUREKA!" moment!

Its like, "FINALLY!"

"its through this page,
we meet", (Napoleon Hill)

For who keens to understand, read millions time, for those who not,
bite your tongue!

Thanks Sensei Li.
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: SWEET on Apr 11, 10:12 AM 2020
Quote from: Kimo Li on Apr 14, 12:03 AM 2017
Spins and events operate in the same manner; organize them into groups most familiar to you. Each occurrence will produce separate results. The piece everyone is looking for is the actual event.

What does this mean? It means the player does not need any tracking device, manual or computer.
It means you can actually walk up to any table and start playing. Why? Because the events everyone seek is right before their eyes, but fail to see it.

Know this, any player who has tried to decipher the winning formula, whether through math, statistic, AP, or other methods, have touched upon at least one facet of events. Events are not random by nature, nor are spins. As Priyanka stated, “Spins and events are equally predictable.”

Events facilitate spins to become winners. Using Priyanka’s numbers, basic events:

7
4
32
30
5
21
9
7

R
B
R
R
R
R
R
R

L
L
H
H
L
H
L
L

O
E
E
E
O
O
O
O

See the basic events.
Complex events operate on a different level, but the principles are the same.
I hope those interested,
those quote would save, many hours of head banging on table...(I had many swollen spot on head,😂😄😁🤣)
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: SWEET on Apr 11, 10:32 AM 2020
Quote from: Kimo Li on May 17, 02:53 AM 2018
No, it does not matter if it is bias or not.
What matters is knowing how to use the information at hand, understanding trends, and applying the appropriate strategy.
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: mohitomish on Apr 11, 11:36 AM 2020
Hi Sweet,

So here you have the alternating even chances as your event to play.  But what about the timing, do u just go in and play the alternating pattern events or wait for a particular event to happen then play this?

Thanks
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: SWEET on Apr 11, 11:47 AM 2020
(something to ponder...hard!)

Quote:
And if you tracked a dealer, say on the moment the dealers favor is hemi ball movement, does this means we keep playing hemi? Or do we change in the game? (unquote)

Yes, stay on the Hemi. Once the Hemi misses (a set), get off. Then, when you see the Hemi come in twice in a row, start betting the Hemi again. When it misses again, stop and wait for Hemi to hit twice again. This holds true to any of the movements. This style of tracking is called tunnel vision.

Kimo Li
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: SWEET on Apr 11, 11:59 AM 2020

(guys, keep *open mind*, be like water to suit the situation!)

on: Apr 04, 01:17 AM 2012 »

Quote
The ONLY reason for choosing the disc to base your betting (with the expectation of gaining a mathematical advantage) on is when you have determined a bias - and a TRUE bias, not just sectors which seem to be trending at the moment. Kimo Li and others have perpetuated this myth that you must bet on the wheel, not the layout, to get an advantage.

It's nonsense.
(unquote)


Nonsense? Myth?

Sectors, biases, clusters, wheel base tracking, layout tracking, matrix, etc. yada, yada, yada.

The only disadvantage a roulette player may have is the inability to have an open mind.  As Bruce Lee once said, "be like water."

What does that mean in terms of roulette? The ability to recognize current trends and executing situational strategy, whether it layout based or wheel based, mathematical, etc.

To limit oneself to one way of thinking, will ultimately be someone's demise. Just because I introduced my strategies, does not mean I do not use other strategies introduced by others. It depends on the situation.

For the record.

Kimo Li
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: SWEET on Apr 11, 12:07 PM 2020

Who say he never revealed his strategy?

some of his progression strategy, copy and paste on other "word" program, and rearrange the data, or go here

link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=376.msg68831#msg68831



Sep 30, 07:25 AM 2011 »
Using the sample numbers above, bet black when running black. Bet red when running red.
The chart shows four types of betting progressions.

F   Flat Bet

2   1 2 4 8

3   1 3 9 27

4   1 4 16 68



B   F            B   2            B   3            B   4
17   B                                                            
16   R         L   1   -1         L   1   -1         L   1   -1         L   1   -1
31   B         L   1   -1         L   2   -2         L   3   -3         L   4   -4
31   B         W   1   1         W   4   4         W   9   9         W   16   16
32   R         L   1   -1         L   1   -1         L   1   -1         L   1   -1
13   B         L   1   -1         L   2   -2         L   3   -3         L   4   -4
12   R         W   1   1         W   4   4         W   9   9         W   16   16
21   R         W   1   1         W   1   1         W   1   1         W   1   1
23   R         W   1   1         W   1   1         W   1   1         W   1   1
16   R         W   1   1         W   1   1         W   1   1         W   1   1
14   R         W   1   1         W   1   1         W   1   1         W   1   1
05   R         W   1   1         W   1   1         W   1   1         W   1   1
23   R         W   1   1         W   1   1         W   1   1         W   1   1
23   R         W   1   1         W   1   1         W   1   1         W   1   1
27   R         W   1   1         W   1   1         W   1   1         W   1   1
11   B         L   1   -1         L   1   -1         L   1   -1         L   1   -1
19   R         L   1   -1         L   2   -2         L   3   -3         L   4   -4
32   R         W   1   1         W   4   4         W   9   9         W   16   16
36   R         W   1   1         W   1   1         W   1   1         W   1   1
19   R         W   1   1         W   1   1         W   1   1         W   1   1
27   R         W   1   1         W   1   1         W   1   1         W   1   1
34   R         W   1   1         W   1   1         W   1   1         W   1   1
30   R         W   1   1         W   1   1         W   1   1         W   1   1
26   B         L   1   -1         L   1   -1         L   1   -1         L   1   -1
31   B         W   1   1         W   2   2         W   3   3         W   4   4
13   B         W   1   1         W   1   1         W   1   1         W   1   1
27   R         L   1   -1         L   1   -1         L   1   -1         L   1   -1
03   R         W   1   1         W   2   2         W   3   3         W   4   4
20   B         L   1   -1         L   1   -1         L   1   -1         L   1   -1
35   B         W   1   1         W   2   2         W   3   3         W   4   4
36   R         L   1   -1         L   1   -1         L   1   -1         L   1   -1
32   R         W   1   1         W   2   2         W   3   3         W   4   4
23   R         W   1   1         W   1   1         W   1   1         W   1   1
21   R         W   1   1         W   1   1         W   1   1         W   1   1
PROFIT            13               23               39               61

Holygrail? I don't know about that, works for me.

I would use this strategy only if I see red and black taking a run.  In sample above, it was ideal.

Kimo Li
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: SWEET on Apr 11, 12:50 PM 2020
Quote from: mohitomish on Apr 11, 11:36 AM 2020
Hi Sweet,

So here you have the alternating even chances as your event to play.  But what about the timing, do u just go in and play the alternating pattern events or wait for a particular event to happen then play this?

Thanks
Hi Mohi,
We need to read, and reread many time, for better realisation and understanding.

quote:
What does this mean? It means the player does not need any tracking device, manual or computer.
It means you can actually walk up to any table and start playing. Why? Because the events everyone seek is right before their eyes, but fail to see it.

Kimo Li (unquote)

thanks.
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: Kimo Li on Apr 11, 01:10 PM 2020
Wow, it took you 9 years to actually figure it out. Looks like many sleepless nights.
Made you think.

Kimo Li
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: 2BobBet on Apr 11, 01:11 PM 2020
Is it creating your own event based on the previous numbers ?

Example

7,32,4,5,27,22,19,1,33   LRO,HRE,LBE,LRO,HRO,HBE,HRO,LRO,HBO  play these ecs for the next 9 spins ?

Change this template as more numbers come in ?

Am I on the right track ?
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: SWEET on Apr 11, 01:39 PM 2020
Quote from: Kimo Li on Apr 11, 01:10 PM 2020
Wow, it took you 9 years to actually figure it out. Looks like many sleepless nights.
Made you think.

Kimo Li
My brain work in slow motion, hahahaha! :xd:
Thanks Sensei Li.

Guys,
We need to really understand
one very important concept of Kimo Li's.

It's not "one size fit all!"

it has MANY ways, methods, progressions or strategy, you need to look for one that suit your temperament!

The most important understanding, is, it a
STABLE BET SELECTION

the most important,
it's not about OVERCOME THE HOUSE EDGE....but
It turn extreme variance, by avoidance, tracking, and follow the trait, into a stable result
decisions, meaning, it will hit around math expectation, sometimes slightly positive, and sometime negative, and cut loss ,too!
We must understand the, losing a few, but win many,
and again, the strategy would hit within math expectation, that could bet with progression...
it is not a MAGIC or never lose a single session method...remember that! and think hard, and reread many time..
good night, zzzzzz
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: SWEET on Apr 12, 12:28 AM 2020
Quote from: 2BobBet on Apr 11, 01:11 PM 2020
Is it creating your own event based on the previous numbers ?

Example

7,32,4,5,27,22,19,1,33   LRO,HRE,LBE,LRO,HRO,HBE,HRO,LRO,HBO  play these ecs for the next 9 spins ?

Change this template as more numbers come in ?

Am I on the right track ?
2Bobbet,
According to Sensei Li,
there's no particular size  fit for all, thus you must do more testing for risk and progression.
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: SWEET on Apr 12, 01:11 AM 2020
 Guys,
interesting researching for EC.

May 20, 10:33 AM 2018
Quote :
This is how you track Even Chances. It's a visual. Figure it out.
This is my contribution to the Accuracy of Predictions, basic tracking.
Kimo Li (unquote)
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: SWEET on Apr 12, 01:19 AM 2020
anyone interested to learn and research&reread posts posted by Sensei Kimo Li,
from the very first post to today... click below...

link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=340
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: SWEET on Apr 12, 01:54 AM 2020
I need to say this.

below my personal view...
I THINK...

Kimo Li's way...

1)is not a size fit all...
we must factor in our ..br,patience,temper, risk assessment...

2)not a 'magic accrabada',
bet 12spins, and walk away with 10000usd$...,

no! Its win 12 particular x-spins & x-spins of losses!

3)why tracking & trigger?
As extreme variance avoidance!
For every next 10,20,30,100spins,
we might face Extreme Variance, this dreaded sequence make us lose our br. Thus tracking seems to "wait for extreme to manifest itself", hopefully the math-expected sequence followed

4)look for a trait, trend, or
BEHAVIOR, of a sequence.
We cant predict,&forecast, but  RISKED, that the behaviour will go on, thus we may lose, if the proceeding trend buckled!
But make profit, when the trend hit within math expectation, or progression-expectation.

So its "variance vs expectation",
no VODOO-magic here, you must understand first hand.

5)stop bet&stop loss, thus our risk tolerance.

6) Progression and br assessment...whether your br could withstand cut loss crunch?
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: mohitomish on Apr 12, 02:43 AM 2020
Hi sweet,

Isn't then, this is similar to waiting for an event to happen then bet against it?  RBR happened and you bet against it.
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: SWEET on Apr 12, 02:46 AM 2020
ExtremeVariance
&WithinMath expectation (STABLE RESULTS).

"Whether the wheel bias or well-balanced,
either way, the casino doomed!"

below is just
OVER-SIMPLIFIED EXAMPLE,
so everyone could understand.

In next 100 spins,
if you bet RED.
and since we cant predict,
what will be the result?

1)Well-balanced:

It may hit within math expectation...

+-3zero, RED/BLACK RATIOS, get almost equal hit.
We can win, with simple progression.

2) Heavily Biased:

RED only hit 30/100.
we cant win, and lose br too!

3)Heavily Biased:

Red hit up to 60+/100,
positive progression, lucky day!

Thus, three possibilities,

Then how we AVOID
THE EXTREME?

Here with Kimo Li's Way,

we detect whether the wheel well-balanced or biased,
AND ACT ACCORDINGLY...

if biased, we bet the biased part, and win,

if well-balanced, we also win, since we managed to
avoid the extreme variance.

The same with HALF of the wheel, if we put the green of European wheel, at top, and 'slice' into halves,
then track the wheel, to see which part has more hit...
So, if if both half get equal hit, then how you bet?

If Left part get more, then how you bet?
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: SWEET on Apr 12, 03:09 AM 2020
Quote from: mohitomish on Apr 12, 02:43 AM 2020
Hi sweet,

Isn't then, this is similar to waiting for an event to happen then bet against it?  RBR happened and you bet against it.

Hi Mohit,
Since I am not Sensei Li,
I cant answer that, (maybe we can wait for Sensei Li for answer).

But as a friend, we could discuss your question.

[Isn't then, this is similar to waiting for an event to happen then bet against it?  RBR happened and you bet against it.]

I THINK, it similiar, as RBR,RBR,RBR.... is an EVENT (of your choice).

We may bet against, or bet it become same, as this strategy ,
purpose ,
is to avoid extreme variance, and make it to hit within math expectation...

Now, we could win at the very first bet, or hit long losing string,(expect the
expected-unexpected),

say,
after four losses-in-row,
STOP BET,
and resume after say, two hit in row...

And progression...
if FLATBET, you need two more win, to a single loss,
or any mild or aggressive progression,

and could your br withstand expected stop losses, season,
and RECOUP, with future two or three winning sessions.

We need to do more testing with long data, a few thousands spins,

and see if it SUFFER LONG LOSSES IN ROW...
or LONG STREAKY HIT,

and you will feel more confident.

Thanks Mohit, hope to hear from you soon.
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: SWEET on Apr 12, 08:19 AM 2020

Sensei doesn't win 100% in all bet attempt,
read below.

Quote from: Kimo Li on Jan 14, 09:03 AM 2020

"High value targets, a term I use, are bet selections that hit on average 80%, eight out of ten attempts"
(unquote)
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: SWEET on Apr 12, 08:36 AM 2020
very interesting hint, how to bet hot numbers,
I think will helpful for those interested.
but of course, we need to understand, pie and star numbers.

Quote from: Kimo Li on Aug 21, 10:02 AM 2012
The most widely acceptable tracking device in any casino is pen and paper so why not use it.

In reference to hot numbers, numbers that have not shown it's ugly heads for more than 36 times is a nuisance. Hot numbers by my definition are numbers that come in multiple times within a 36 number cycle. Or any six numbers, which belong to a prescribed set of categorized numbers, that comes in a six cycle spin.  Any numbers before or after a six spin cycle is irrelevant. Every number spun becomes part of a six number cycle.

In other words, the cycle of numbers is short lived. Forget the past beyond six numbers, Play the present (choice of numbers), and repeat the cycle.

If you can do that, you will win consistently. How? That's a different story.

Kimo Li
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: number25 on Apr 12, 10:02 AM 2020
@ Sweet ,  What have you gotten from all this info? 
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: SWEET on Apr 12, 10:23 AM 2020
This is a basic way of tracking movements, nine numbers
sets of 4 (9 x 4),
six numbers
sets of 6 (6 x 6).

Good Luck

Kimo Li (unquote)
quote:
In reference to balance, if the wheel is slightly imbalance (tilted), the ball will favor certain groups of numbers (sections). If the wheel is balanced, then the ball will distribute, over time, equally around the wheel.

So the quote:

The casino will lose their edge because Global Pie tracks sections of the wheel and can detect if the ball is favoring a section(s). If the wheel is balanced, then the Pinwheel strategy is able to track specific points dispersed equally around the wheel. So, it does not matter if the wheel is balanced or not. There are strategies that can overcome this type of mind set.

Kimo Li(unquote)
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: SWEET on Apr 12, 10:27 AM 2020
Quote from: number25 on Apr 12, 10:02 AM 2020
@ Sweet ,  What have you gotten from all this info?
HG!
Winning seasons, compensate losing seasons, with positive balance...

how about you?
What have you gotten from all this "reading only"?
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: SWEET on Apr 12, 10:46 AM 2020
(question)
Kimo Li,
could you or any others that have been studying wheel play please tell me in your experience what is the longest amount of spins a 6 number wheel section has slept for?
I know your technique is catching the hot sections the dealer spinning for, but im interested in the amount of of time they can sleep for as well.
cheers
bck



   


quote:
bckwrds,
Interesting question, I really don't know. I have not counted the misses. But that is my point, I only keep track of the hot trends.

Kimo Li(unquote)
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: number25 on Apr 12, 12:05 PM 2020
Yes you can track both sets of numbers.  9 or 12

Always look for the hot trend to make money.

You should post live spins & tell us why you bet that group of numbers.

Then we can open up are mind to roulettes world of Kimo Li 

I play American roulette.

By posting spins we can cut the red tape & show the world the future.
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: number25 on Apr 12, 12:15 PM 2020
Also Have you read about Roberta Cottone?  She has a blog all about how to beat roulette.  It is written in Italian language have to translate it by Google.

In her archives she has over 5 years of free info to beat the game.

Number 25
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: Clf7 on Apr 12, 12:46 PM 2020
Quote from: number25 on Apr 12, 12:15 PM 2020
Also Have you read about Roberta Cottone?  She has a blog all about how to beat roulette.  It is written in Italian language have to translate it by Google.

In her archives she has over 5 years of free info to beat the game.

Number 25

Roberta is still active on her "new" Website --> link:://robertcotton258.blogspot.com/?m=1
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: Clf7 on Apr 12, 12:49 PM 2020
But forget it, actually nobody have made Profit or became a pro Player from robertas "advices"...sadly
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: number25 on Apr 12, 12:51 PM 2020
Quote from: Clf7 on Apr 12, 12:46 PM 2020
Roberta is still active on her "new" Website --> link:://robertcotton258.blogspot.com/?m=1

Yes Sir!!! All of this info is good & she shows the player how to apply it
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: number25 on Apr 12, 12:53 PM 2020
Quote from: Clf7 on Apr 12, 12:49 PM 2020
But forget it, actually nobody have made Profit or became a pro Player from robertas "advices"...sadly

I believe we can make profit from this info
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: stringbeanpc on Apr 12, 01:22 PM 2020
Quote from: SWEET on Apr 11, 01:39 PM 2020STABLE BET SELECTION

Sweet / PA

Please explain what you mean by "Stable Bet Selection". Perhaps with an example.

Thank You
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: stringbeanpc on Apr 12, 01:26 PM 2020
Quote from: SWEET on Apr 12, 10:46 AM 2020Kimo Li,
could you or any others that have been studying wheel play please tell me in your experience what is the longest amount of spins a 6 number wheel section has slept for?

Sweet,

I do NOT know the longest, but I did observe in 2014 pie 7 (single 0 wheel) never hit once in the 48 spins I was at the table.
Of course, this means that other pies hit more often.

Here are the spins

17 (oldest)
24
21
32
0
36
29
30
24
32
32
32
9
21
21
15
21
15
4
16
24
16
17
30
27
36
1
21
9
16
19
10
2
32
11
0
16
2
36
17
17
10
33
11
29
34
23
10 (newest)
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: number25 on Apr 12, 03:39 PM 2020
17
24
21.   After these 3 spins bet red
32.  W
0
36.   After 0 came out 36-5=31
29.   Bet 3rd dozen or the streets
30.    Around 31 winner
24.    Bet red after 36 30 hit w
32.    Bet red 32 w
32.   
32.    Bet red 9 w
9
21
21.    Bet black 15 w
15
21

With this info from Roberta Cottone
you can see we made profit.   I was only playing balck or red EC.  Also she says to -/+  5 after a zero come out.

Number 25
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: number25 on Apr 12, 04:26 PM 2020
17
24
21. Bet r

32.  W
0
36

29. Bet r
30. W
24

32. Bet red w
32
32

9.   Bet red w
21
21

15. Bet red
21.  W
15

4.
16. Bet red w
24

16
17.  Bet b w
30

27. Bet r w
36
1

21. Bet b loss $ Management is
9.    Key
16

19.  Bet b w
10
2

32.  Bet r w
11
0

16.  Bet b w
2
36

17.  Bet b. W
17
10

33.  Bet b. W
11
29

34.  Bet r w
23
10


Here is full bets EC .... Looks good to me ! Mm is key
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: number25 on Apr 12, 05:04 PM 2020
Kimo li A B C

17
24
21.

32.  Bet A w
0
36

29.   
30.
24. A w

32. A w
32
32

9.   Loss no A
21
21

15.  W. A
21. 
15

4.   
16.
24.  W

16
17.  A W
30

27.
36.  A W
1

21.  Loss A  MM stop loss or
9.     Stop because we hit target
16

19.   Loss A
10
2

32.  Here we go A came back
11
0

16.
2
36. A w

17.  A w
17
10

33. 
11. A. W
29

34.   Loss A
23
10


This was Kimo Li  A B C stars.

We was playing Hot stars.

@ Sweet do you understand my way of thinking?
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: The General on Apr 12, 05:59 PM 2020
Don't fall into the trap of reverse engineering your bet to fit past spins.  You'll always find a bet that performs better than another until you encounter the spins that have yet to actually happen. 

I just can't see why the system should work.
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: number25 on Apr 12, 06:21 PM 2020
Quote from: The General on Apr 12, 05:59 PM 2020
Don't fall into the trap of reverse engineering your bet to fit past spins.  You'll always find a bet that performs better than another until you encounter the spins that have yet to actually happen. 

I just can't see why the system should work.
Post some spins & which wheel it is. Lets see what can be done.

Kimo Li & Roberta Cottone  info works.

Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: number25 on Apr 12, 08:48 PM 2020
Roberta Cottone  6 numbers

17
24
21.
32. 
0
36.   Bet 31 3rd dozen or streets

29.  W
30.
24
32.
32
32

9.   Number 22 or 31  w
21
21
15.
21. 
15

4.    35or31 was the # w
16.
24
16
17.
30

27.    Bet 35 or 13 w
36
1
21
9.   
16

19.     Bet 19 or root # 2 w
10
2
32. 
11
0

16.   Bet 4 or 12 first dozen w
2
36
17. 
17
10

33.    Bet 31or 2 w
11
29
34. 
23
10

This was very good spins to beat the wheel.

Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: Clf7 on Apr 12, 09:01 PM 2020
Buddy a Long Term is needed.For example on rx Software,so we could now how it ends after thousands spins,for example 50K.
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: SWEET on Apr 12, 09:25 PM 2020
Quote from: stringbeanpc on Apr 12, 01:22 PM 2020
Sweet

Please explain what you mean by "Stable Bet Selection". Perhaps with an example.

Thank You
Hi Stringbeanpc,

Stable-bet-selection,
simply mean, the win lose, ratios, always hit around 50%, in EC,

66/33 DOZEN,
etc.

or in other words, not encounter or avoiding extreme variance.

It is pinnacle of HG.

Imagine this, if you bet EC, you always, hit, Win/lose, around 50/50 ratios, 

and for 10seasons, 8 out of 10seasons, you manage to win, then, you already have a hg.

Simply ask any members,
WHY OUR GAMBLING SYSTEMS FAIL/ LOSING MONEY?
simple....

the LONG streaks of losing decisions !!!

Labouchere cant win with less than 33.34%,
and soon our br blown...
and 33.34%,seems ubiquitous...

we cant escape extreme variance, sooner or later, it will rear its ugly head...

we need a strategy, to avoid extreme variance,

HOW?

1)wait for it to happen!

Very Funny?

That's why, Tracking&trigger,

actually, tracking and trigger, tools for waiting extreme to show up, and passed.

If your double dozen vs dozen, is STABLE,
always 66/33, then waiting dd streak hit for very long, say 25 to 35, with only a few dz in between, then, simply bet flat for dz will win constantly.

2)stop betting,
wait for winning streak, resume.

3)cut loss, the bitter pills.

Now we understand,
tracking, trigger,
going for hot trend, simply  mean,
avoiding the extreme variance sequence...
thanks.
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: SWEET on Apr 12, 09:42 PM 2020
Quote from: number25 on Apr 12, 12:05 PM 2020
Yes you can track both sets of numbers.  9 or 12

Always look for the hot trend to make money.

You should post live spins & tell us why you bet that group of numbers.

Then we can open up are mind to roulettes world of Kimo Li 

I play American roulette.

By posting spins we can cut the red tape & show the world the future.
Hi Number25,
Firstly,
We must understand the basic of

1)pies GPM.
2)STARS PINWHEEL
3)TRACKING.

when we fully understand, then,
say, 6 numbers pies/stars.

we need to track,
36/6=6matrix
(nnnnnn)/(GPM)/(stars)

now we track to see, how the behaviour,
we will see, that ratios or %....
all pies/stars hit
(111111)=1/200

only 1pies or 1stars hit
eg.
(600000)=1/200

4pies/stars hit the most
eg.
(112200)

now, how you going to bet?
stars and pies, also
overlaps...
eg.
(112200)pies
(112200)stars
how you bet?

only my 2cents/opinions.
thanks.
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: number25 on Apr 12, 11:16 PM 2020
@ sweet how would you play these spins?  American wheel. I put them into 3 set spins already.


36
22
1

23
6
34

16
10
20

29
5
34

18
14
26

18
36
4

8
20
5

23
25
14

7
12
24

31
12
12

24
24
26

28
9
15

4
34
14

3
2
32

29
13
34

10
10
30

31
12

Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: SWEET on Apr 13, 12:02 AM 2020
Quote from: number25 on Apr 12, 11:16 PM 2020
@ sweet how would you play these spins? 
Number25,
With due respect,
Asking me to do your spins, put me in embarrassing catch-22 situation. 
:twisted:
People are watching,
If I say nothing, I get stoned
:embarrassed: :xd:
if I show you, then others will post hundreds and hundreds of spins here. :xd:
Thus,
we go to my first post, and apply the method here, but you do your homework, you will get quite stable result, but figured out the progression /stop loss, br, etc, yourself, and keep to yourself, for you found your own winning strategy, and you want to post it here?
Since you put 3set spin, simply bet

three different dozens wont appear.

There's many way to skin a cat, look for one suit your taste, temper, and br.
keep to yourself, else, I get stoned. :lol: :twisted:
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: Kimo Li on Apr 13, 01:49 AM 2020
36
22
1

23
6
34

16
10
20

29
5
34

18
14
26

18
36
4

8
20
5

23
25
14

7
12
24

31
12
12

24
24
26

28
9
15

4
34
14

3
2
32

29
13
34

10
10
30

31
12
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: SWEET on Apr 13, 03:33 AM 2020
Wow!
Thanks Sensei Li,
for your post,
appreciate them.
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: number25 on Apr 13, 07:28 AM 2020
@ Sweet this is a place to help roulette player win ? 

I'm showing the fourm how to apply it to the roulette #!  The things you are taking about SWEET!

Yes I understand some of Kimo Li work from this fourm.  The PW strategy  the only thing that he left out was MM. 

After the PW strategy you can apply that to all of his work & or just # you want to group together!  The light came on for me!

If you need help Sweet just pm me.

Number 25



Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: number25 on Apr 13, 07:33 AM 2020
Quote from: Kimo Li on Apr 13, 01:49 AM 2020
36
22
1

23
6
34

16
10
20

29
5
34

18
14
26

18
36
4

8
20
5

23
25
14

7
12
24

31
12
12

24
24
26

28
9
15

4
34
14

3
2
32

29
13
34

10
10
30

31
12
Hi, Kimo Li !
Hope your are doing good.
Lets see what they can do with this information maybe win or maybe lose!

Number 25
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: number25 on Apr 13, 08:01 AM 2020
Streets 369


36. 9
22.  6
1.    1

23.  6
6.     6
34.   9. Bet street 6

16.  9
10.  3
20.  3. Miss keep playing or quit?

29.  3
5.     6.  W
34.   9

18. 9
14.  6. W
26.  8

18. 9
36. 9
4.   6  w

8.   9
20. 3
5.    6.  W

23.   6 w
25.   9
14.    6

7.   9
12. 3
24.  6. W

31.  6 w
12.  3
12. 3

24. 6. W
24.  6
26.  8

28. 3
9.   9
15.  6 w

4.   6 w. Do we stop here are we
34. 9.   In profit?
14. 6

3.   3
2.    3
32.  6. W

29.  3
13.  6. W
34.  9

10
10
30

31
12

Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: SWEET on Apr 13, 10:14 AM 2020
Hi Number25,
( or anyone interested in trying to bet, and show how to mm)
Europe
3
28
35
18
11
8
30
8
20
14
3
32
22
8
7
31
31
32
4
26
20
12
13
3
0
22
35
9
21
10
31
35
12
17
6
25
33
17
7
24
10
1
25
17
9
27
18
31
10
17
19
7
15
26
24
34
31
10
5
25
27
33
8
26
22
20
22
5
16
30
35
32
18
9
27
31
28
9
11
30
1
11
28
31
24
23
31
13
6
35
2
36
31
31
6
29
8
0
26
18
0
31
32
19
14
19
0
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: SWEET on Apr 13, 10:16 AM 2020

Below, the summary conclusion, of my post.

Quote from: Kimo Li on May 27, 05:38 PM 2018
Sophistication is manifested in the flow of simplicity and accuracy.
Simplicity is the organization of complex thought.
Accuracy is the result of simplicity.

Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: SWEET on Apr 13, 10:32 AM 2020

"What does it mean to be the chosen one?
It simply means
“You're it.”
Professional Gambler, who has HG,
the CHOSEN ONE!
Out of 7.5 billions earthling, only a handful of human.
He make money, year after year, keep invisible profile, not many people know he exist...
Pro gambler with hgs.

ARE YOU THE CHOSEN ONE?
ps: seriously, I am on my way to be...
"THE CHOSEN ONE"
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: number25 on Apr 13, 11:17 AM 2020

Europe Pw 14 25 36

3.    25
28.   25
35.    14.  We bet pw25

18.  25 w
11. 25
8.   14

30. 36.   Ok we loss this set your
8.    14.   Choice quit or try for 25
20.   14.    Again

14. 14
3.    25 w. Made something back
32.  14

22. 14.   Loss this set again
8.    14.   Stop or play?
7.    14

31.  25. W. Got something back
31.  25
32.  14

4.   14.   Loss this set
26.  36
20.   36

12.   36
13.   36
3.     25 w.

0.           Loss this set
22. 14
35.  14

9.     36.   Got something back
21.   25 w
10.   36

31.   25. W
35.   14
12.   36

17.   25. W
6.      14
25.    14

33.   14.    Do we stop? Did we
17.    25 w. Make profit or keep
7.      14.     Playing?

24.   25 w
10.   36
1.      25

25.  14
17.  25w.
9.    36

27. 25w. Again when do we
18. 25.    Stop?
31.  25

10.  36
17.  25w
19.  36

7.    14
15.  25w
26.   36

24. 25w
34.  36
31.   25

10. 36. Loss this set . I would of
5.    14.  Stopped when I made
25.  14.   Enough $$$$

27. 25w
33.  14
8.    14

26.  36. Loss this set
22.  14
20.  36

22. 14.  Loss this set
5.    14
16.  36

30.  36
35.  14
32.  14

18. 25w
9.  36
27. 25

31. 25w
28. 25
9.   36

11. 25w
30. 36
1. 25

11. 25. W
28. 25
31. 25

24. 25w
23. 25
31. 25

13. 36
6.   14
35.  14

2.   36
36. 14
31.  25 w

31.  25w
6.     14
29.   36

8.   14
0
26.  36

18. 25w
0
31.  25

32. 14
19.  36
14.  14

19.  36
0

Money Management is simple
Buy in for $100 win 100 stop
Or lose $100 and move on to next table or try again later.

Hope this helps you!


Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: Clf7 on Apr 13, 01:07 PM 2020
Quote from: SWEET on Apr 13, 10:32 AM 2020
"What does it mean to be the chosen one?
It simply means
“You're it.”
Professional Gambler, who has HG,
the CHOSEN ONE!
Out of 7.5 billions earthling, only a handful of human.
He make money, year after year, keep invisible profile, not many people know he exist...
Pro gambler with hgs.

ARE YOU THE CHOSEN ONE?
ps: seriously, I am on my way to be...
"THE CHOSEN ONE"

Buddy you need 36K to get kimo li's HG to be the "Chosen one".Its not simple :P
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: number25 on Apr 13, 01:21 PM 2020

Europe Roberta cottone 6 numbers

3
28
35
18
11
8.     Bet 35 3rd dozen

30.   W then after this was 1st dz
8.     To bet 5 w
20
14
3
32.  Bet31 3dz

22.  Now we bet 9 1st dz
8.   W
7
31.  31 did come if we just bet
31.   3dz
32.  Bet 27 3dz

4. 
26. W then bet 22
20. W.
12
13
3.    29 bet 3dz

0
22. 
35.  W 3dz also bet 7 1dz
9.   W
21
10.  Bet 30 3dz

31. W. Next bet 1  1dz
35
12  w
17
6
25.  Bet 31. 3dz

33.  W now bet 3 1dz
17
7. W
24
10
1.    Bet 34

25. W. Next bet 9
17
9.  W
27
18

This some of the numbers gave from SWEET! I did these with ROBERTA COTTONE Math! 

I stopped because,  Was way in profit!


Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: mohitomish on Apr 14, 07:18 AM 2020
Quote from: number25 on Apr 13, 01:21 PM 2020
Europe Roberta cottone 6 numbers

3
28
35
18
11
8.     Bet 35 3rd dozen

30.   W then after this was 1st dz
8.     To bet 5 w
20
14
3
32.  Bet31 3dz

22.  Now we bet 9 1st dz
8.   W
7
31.  31 did come if we just bet
31.   3dz
32.  Bet 27 3dz

4. 
26. W then bet 22
20. W.
12
13
3.    29 bet 3dz

0
22. 
35.  W 3dz also bet 7 1dz
9.   W
21
10.  Bet 30 3dz

31. W. Next bet 1  1dz
35
12  w
17
6
25.  Bet 31. 3dz

33.  W now bet 3 1dz
17
7. W
24
10
1.    Bet 34

25. W. Next bet 9
17
9.  W
27
18

This some of the numbers gave from SWEET! I did these with ROBERTA COTTONE Math! 

I stopped because,  Was way in profit!

Hi number25,

can u tell me where u got this method from? thanks
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: number25 on Apr 14, 05:25 PM 2020
Quote from: mohitomish on Apr 14, 07:18 AM 2020
Hi number25,

can u tell me where u got this method from? thanks
Roberta Cottone blog in her archives & it is in Italian language....  can't remember which year
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: Gandhi on Apr 14, 07:21 PM 2020
Quote from: number25 on Apr 13, 11:17 AM 2020
Europe Pw 14 25 36

3.    25
28.   25
35.    14.  We bet pw25

18.  25 w
11. 25
8.   14

30. 36.   Ok we loss this set your
8.    14.   Choice quit or try for 25
20.   14.    Again

14. 14
3.    25 w. Made something back
32.  14

22. 14.   Loss this set again
8.    14.   Stop or play?
7.    14

31.  25. W. Got something back
31.  25
32.  14

4.   14.   Loss this set
26.  36
20.   36

12.   36
13.   36
3.     25 w.

0.           Loss this set
22. 14
35.  14

9.     36.   Got something back
21.   25 w
10.   36

31.   25. W
35.   14
12.   36

17.   25. W
6.      14
25.    14

33.   14.    Do we stop? Did we
17.    25 w. Make profit or keep
7.      14.     Playing?

24.   25 w
10.   36
1.      25

25.  14
17.  25w.
9.    36

27. 25w. Again when do we
18. 25.    Stop?
31.  25

10.  36
17.  25w
19.  36

7.    14
15.  25w
26.   36

24. 25w
34.  36
31.   25

10. 36. Loss this set . I would of
5.    14.  Stopped when I made
25.  14.   Enough $$$$

27. 25w
33.  14
8.    14

26.  36. Loss this set
22.  14
20.  36

22. 14.  Loss this set
5.    14
16.  36

30.  36
35.  14
32.  14

18. 25w
9.  36
27. 25

31. 25w
28. 25
9.   36

11. 25w
30. 36
1. 25

11. 25. W
28. 25
31. 25

24. 25w
23. 25
31. 25

13. 36
6.   14
35.  14

2.   36
36. 14
31.  25 w

31.  25w
6.     14
29.   36

8.   14
0
26.  36

18. 25w
0
31.  25

32. 14
19.  36
14.  14

19.  36
0

Money Management is simple
Buy in for $100 win 100 stop
Or lose $100 and move on to next table or try again later.

Hope this helps you!

I've been playing with this and trying to refine it. From some of his tips I have been testing going just how you started but on the first lost set switching to pw14 the current "running" trend. And each time missing a set switch to the new running pw.

I don't know a good progression or how it would help because once you run into a couple losing sets you're in a pretty deep hole. Feels better to play hit and run flat bet, only for a couple sets win or lose. I know he has said he waits 8 and plays next 8 win or lose but he also talks progression and not sure if it applies to his pw method.

Any tips would be great thanks for sharing openly your ideas.




Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: number25 on Apr 14, 07:42 PM 2020
Quote from: Gandhi on Apr 14, 07:21 PM 2020
I've been playing with this and trying to refine it. From some of his tips I have been testing going just how you started but on the first lost set switching to pw14 the current "running" trend. And each time missing a set switch to the new running pw.

I don't know a good progression or how it would help because once you run into a couple losing sets you're in a pretty deep hole. Feels better to play hit and run flat bet, only for a couple sets win or lose. I know he has said he waits 8 and plays next 8 win or lose but he also talks progression and not sure if it applies to his pw method.

Any tips would be great thanks for sharing openly your ideas.
Yes, stay on the Hemi. Once the Hemi misses (a set), get off. Then, when you see the Hemi come in twice in a row, start betting the Hemi again. When it misses again, stop and wait for Hemi to hit twice again. This holds true to any of the movements. This style of tracking is called tunnel vision.

This how i was playing that game.
Sweet believes he has all of the pieces to the puzzle,   Sweet dosen't have all the pieces to the puzzle....Thats ok!....You're the only who asked how this was played.

Now your tracking the PW different then I was so different out comes.

But all in all Kimo Li plays the short game. 
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: number25 on Apr 14, 07:45 PM 2020
Post some spins & tell which wheel
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: number25 on Apr 14, 08:13 PM 2020

Europe  pw 14 25 36

3.    25
28.   25
35.    14.  Bet pw25

18.  25 w
11. 25
8.   14

30. 36.   Loss this set
8.    14. 
20.   14.    Bet pw 14 is hot

14. 14. W
3.    25
32.  14

22. 14.   W
8.    14.   
7.    14

31.  25.
31.  25
32.  14. W.

4.   14.   W. We won a few set did
26.  36.   We hit goal? Or keep on
20.   36

12.   36. Loss this set pw 36 hot
13.   36
3.     25

0.         Loss this set now keep
22. 14.  Going or stop. 
35.  14

Yes it gets hard to keep chasing the hot PW,   But if you set a win goal or lose goal.  We should of stopped a few spins ago.  Hope this helps you
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: Gandhi on Apr 14, 09:34 PM 2020
Have run into a few back to back to back sessions like this. Using the tunnel vision tracking for pw, the way we understand it puts us in a hole quick and multiple sessions like this digs a pretty big hole without a progression. 'Following the last' method would've worked better for these spins but it's all hindsight.

American  pw 14 25 36

22.       25
1.         36
13.       25

2.         36
25.       36
6.         14

30.       14
20.       14
32.       25

21.       25
11.       25
12.       25

21.       25
36.       14
6.         14

6.         14
20.       14
00.

20.       14
12.       25
8.         36

26.       36
24.       36
8.         36




Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: number25 on Apr 14, 09:52 PM 2020
Streets 369

22.       6
1.         3
13.       4

2.         3
25.       9
6.         6. W

30.       3
20.       3
32.       6. W

21.       3. Loss this set
11.       3
12.       3

21.       3
36.       9
6.         6. W recouped last set

6.         6 w recouped
20.       3
00.

20.       3 loss this set
12.       3
8.         9

26.       9
24.       6 w made $ back
8.         9

Kimo Li method of tracking can be applied to anything.
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: number25 on Apr 14, 09:59 PM 2020
Roberta cottone colors ec

22.       
1.         
13.       bet r

2.         
25.      w
6.         bet r

30.       w
20.     
32.       bet r

21.       w
11.       
12.       bet r

21.       w
36.       
6.         bet r

6.         
20.       
00.     W 00 are red/ bet red

20.       
12.      w
8.         bet b

26.       w
24.      
8.         next bet was red check
The numbers see if she was right?

EC we won this game Roberta cottone colors!
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: number25 on Apr 14, 10:10 PM 2020
Roberta cottone 6 numbers

22.       
1.         
13.       
2.         
25.     
6.       bet 3dz 29/ bet 1 1dz

30.       w
20.     
32.       
21.     
11.       w
12.      bet 23 2dz/ 2 1dz

21.      w
36.       
6.         w
6.         
20.       
00.     Bet 31 3dz/ 11 1dz

20.       
12.     
8.         
26.       w
24.      
8.         w

That last set won 3 spins before 3dz came & last was 1dz.

We could of stopped anytime if your in profit   

Next set was 35/30 3dz was bet
Check on that .
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: Gandhi on Apr 14, 10:26 PM 2020
Quote from: number25 on Apr 14, 09:52 PM 2020
Streets 369

22.       6
1.         3
13.       4

2.         3
25.       9
6.         6. W

30.       3
20.       3
32.       6. W

21.       3. Loss this set
11.       3
12.       3

21.       3
36.       9
6.         6. W recouped last set

6.         6 w recouped
20.       3
00.

20.       3 loss this set
12.       3
8.         9

26.       9
24.       6 w made $ back
8.         9

Kimo Li method of tracking can be applied to anything.



but what would make you play this instead of pw? and what if you start betting this and lose but could've played pw and won?

Also the next number was 3.
so you would've won with the ec.
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: number25 on Apr 15, 06:44 AM 2020
Quote from: Gandhi on Apr 14, 10:26 PM 2020


but what would make you play this instead of pw? and what if you start betting this and lose but could've played pw and won?

Also the next number was 3.
so you would've won with the ec.
I just wanted to show you we can apply kimo li li tracking to any number.   You could walk up and see the numbers coming out and play that strategy.   

Me personally I like to just watch what's taking place & then bet.  Hope i win.
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: SWEET on Apr 15, 08:25 AM 2020
I had post, the collection of Sensei Kimo Li postings, here.
Bet strategies, and progressions too.
Thus, read and reread, for million of time,
with full concentration, burning desire, and motivation to understand.
He already divulge one of his "precious' hg in his postings!
If you only had "quick read", and half-hearted,
and still asking me for ,
"how?,how?, how?"
my answer to you,
"READ!","READ!","READ!"
The answer already there!
If you still cant understand after a million read,then read for 2 million times!!!
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: number25 on Apr 15, 12:19 PM 2020
Quote from: SWEET on Apr 15, 08:25 AM 2020
I had post, the collection of Sensei Kimo Li postings, here.
Bet strategies, and progressions too.
Thus, read and reread, for million of time,
with full concentration, burning desire, and motivation to understand.
He already divulge one of his "precious' hg in his postings!
If you only had "quick read", and half-hearted,
and still asking me for ,
"how?,how?, how?"
my answer to you,
"READ!","READ!","READ!"
The answer already there!
If you still cant understand after a million read,then read for 2 million times!!!
show me the $$$$$$ LOL!
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: Yoigo on May 02, 06:15 AM 2021
Hello everybody,
I am a student of PW and there are very powerful things to discover, really the teacher Kimo is centuries ahead of any winning system that can be read around here.
I'm close but I still can't say I have it.
Greetings to all restless minds. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: number25 on May 12, 09:32 PM 2021
Quote from: Yoigo on May 02, 06:15 AM 2021
Hello everybody,
I am a student of PW and there are very powerful things to discover, really the teacher Kimo is centuries ahead of any winning system that can be read around here.
I'm close but I still can't say I have it.
Greetings to all restless minds. :thumbsup:
All of his strategies are good. You have one big tool box to beat the wheel.

Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: The General on May 12, 11:54 PM 2021
Quote from: Yoigo on May 02, 06:15 AM 2021
Hello everybody,
I am a student of PW and there are very powerful things to discover, really the teacher Kimo is centuries ahead of any winning system that can be read around here.
I'm close but I still can't say I have it.
Greetings to all restless minds. :thumbsup:

(link:s://i.pinimg.com/originals/f2/15/7b/f2157b012f595444406df69db1fb0995.gif)

You're killing me here!  That's as funny as the KTF!
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: holy roller on May 13, 01:35 AM 2021
You're killing me here!  That's as funny as the KTF!

Are you a student of Mr. Li's?
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: carvigno on May 13, 02:57 AM 2021
Naysayers aren't followers of Kimo Li's teachings. So why would he be?
Naysayers can only see the wrong side of the truth.
To see the right side of the truth you must apply concepts hiden for those thinking in terms of traditional math.
Math misleads to find a way to win consistently at roulette. Its a handicap to understand the game.
Obervation, analysis of data and a tool to measure that data all is needed to succeed.
Once you have a great strategy next step is money managment.
If you dont know when to quit a table best strategy will fail.
Stop loss and stop win target keeps sessions under control.
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: number25 on May 13, 09:32 AM 2021
Quote from: carvigno on May 13, 02:57 AM 2021
Naysayers aren't followers of Kimo Li's teachings. So why would he be?
Naysayers can only see the wrong side of the truth.
To see the right side of the truth you must apply concepts hiden for those thinking in terms of traditional math.
Math misleads to find a way to win consistently at roulette. Its a handicap to understand the game.
Obervation, analysis of data and a tool to measure that data all is needed to succeed.
Once you have a great strategy next step is money managment.
If you dont know when to quit a table best strategy will fail.
Stop loss and stop win target keeps sessions under control.
They just don't get it!  They think it is crazy to use Kimo Li strategy to win.  Funny story yesterday playing I said to the guy next to me bet 2 11 20 29 the middle colum was due!  HIT!  Few spins later I said bet 1 10 19 28! HIT! I smiled when I got up & he gave me a look like WTF!  Hit my goal in 18 spins. 
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: number25 on May 13, 11:09 AM 2021
So I was tracking ball movement.   Pies
15 32 64.  Backwards was due pie 3 & numbers 15 & 24 was the bet $15 on each of them.   24 was a WINNER!!!

Have to study & Open your mind

Have a good day people!
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: number25 on May 14, 06:15 PM 2021
05 11 32 21 11 33

19 15 09 22 17

Here are my spin from today. I tracked 6 spins & bet the next set of spins to WIN!  In the first 6 spins I did bet on that number 21 just had a feeling! Then I was back on the hunt I hit number 22 & 17 ! Hit my goal !  Remember I play on the Double 00 wheel. 
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: mohitomish on May 16, 04:33 AM 2021
Hi,

If this works why complicate it with 6 nos, Say for a dozen the movement will be

1 2 3 1 2 3 1 2 3
Forward movement 1 to 2, 2 to 3, 3 to 1
Backward movement 3 to 2, 2 to 1, 1 to 3
Repeat is the third movement.

Then I'm asking you, we just track the dozens and movements in sets of 3? then bet when a movement and a dozen is trending?

Regards
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: number25 on May 16, 06:30 AM 2021
Quote from: mohitomish on May 16, 04:33 AM 2021
Hi,

If this works why complicate it with 6 nos, Say for a dozen the movement will be

1 2 3 1 2 3 1 2 3
Forward movement 1 to 2, 2 to 3, 3 to 1
Backward movement 3 to 2, 2 to 1, 1 to 3
Repeat is the third movement.

Then I'm asking you, we just track the dozens and movements in sets of 3? then bet when a movement and a dozen is trending?

Regards

I was playing Nuke & that has a 18 number bet. I can't bet 18 numbers so I have to find away for less numbers.  Need high profit with small bet. When playing Nuke ball movement is not necessary to track.  Because of the 18 numbers.   I only track ball movement if I am playing Bowtie or pendulum .  Same reason we can bet less numbers with in those pies. 

When you analysis 6 spins I find better information about the next 6 spins.

How is your game going since you play Kimo Li way ?
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: number25 on May 16, 09:25 AM 2021
You can not just play dozens alone.
Have to track two things together.
That way we can eliminate numbers in that dozen.  It not eazy , But can be done. To track High/ Low Odd/Even Red/Black. 
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: carvigno on May 16, 10:09 AM 2021
Quote from: number25 on May 16, 09:25 AM 2021
You can not just play dozens alone.
Have to track two things together.
That way we can eliminate numbers in that dozen.  It not eazy , But can be done. To track High/ Low Odd/Even Red/Black.

You are right number25. It is not easy. It is STUPID but people fail to see it despite it's before their eyes while playing.
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: mohitomish on May 16, 10:52 AM 2021
Hi,

I have already tried these but the strike rate always wats expected, I am giving u an example
the dozens and colors tracked together.

222  RRR
123  RBB
233  BBR

Here Dozen 2 and Red are trending

So bet red dozen 2 numbers for 3 spins?  U will see long wins then stretches of losses as well. How to improve the expected strike rate? Any ideas?
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: Yoigo on May 16, 11:46 AM 2021
Hello, I am anchored there too, there are some very bad streaks, the dreaded variance that not even following the trend, can dismantle your bank in 3 or 4 misses.
I have been looking for a pattern that leads me to another that has to be met, but I don't see the trigger, proven in many sessions and with Kimo's spreadsheet.
We will continue in the fight.
Greetings.
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: number25 on May 16, 12:31 PM 2021
Quote from: mohitomish on May 16, 10:52 AM 2021
Hi,

I have already tried these but the strike rate always wats expected, I am giving u an example
the dozens and colors tracked together.

222  RRR
123  RBB
233  BBR

Here Dozen 2 and Red are trending

So bet red dozen 2 numbers for 3 spins?  U will see long wins then stretches of losses as well. How to improve the expected strike rate? Any ideas?
Can you provide me with 6 spins pls.  I only play the double 00. But you can hive give me European wheel.  It should show a pattern.

Remember we only play to HIT GOAL or STOP loss.  If you play online you already have the advantage,  because of the spreadsheet. 
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: number25 on May 16, 12:37 PM 2021
Quote from: Yoigo on May 16, 11:46 AM 2021
Hello, I am anchored there too, there are some very bad streaks, the dreaded variance that not even following the trend, can dismantle your bank in 3 or 4 misses.
I have been looking for a pattern that leads me to another that has to be met, but I don't see the trigger, proven in many sessions and with Kimo's spreadsheet.
We will continue in the fight.
Greetings.
You have to play for a goal or stop loss. This is the only way to win. It called Hit & Run strategy.   I have global star spreadsheet American wheel.   Have to analyze everything & find away to exploit that information.

I like 6 spins & try to win in the next 6 spins.  Sometimes I will play it out.  The game will go up & down then. My preference is hit my goal & Leave.
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: number25 on May 16, 12:39 PM 2021
Quote from: carvigno on May 16, 10:09 AM 2021
You are right number25. It is not easy. It is STUPID but people fail to see it despite it's before their eyes while playing.
Yes SIR! It takes time to see it. But once you know what you are looking for It gets real eazy to see it.
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: Yoigo on May 16, 01:31 PM 2021
Thanks for your answer number 25, if in the end I have come to the conclusion that it is better to give a moderate blow and march than to continue until the fearful variance appears, I have the European spreadsheet but the pinwheel one
When you play pinwheel, do you bet 3 times in the row or just 1?
Greetings
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: Yoigo on May 16, 01:41 PM 2021
6 numbers eurpean single 0
-------------
34 21 13
28 20 29

Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: mohitomish on May 16, 01:49 PM 2021
Quote from: number25 on May 16, 12:37 PM 2021
You have to play for a goal or stop loss. This is the only way to win. It called Hit & Run strategy.   I have global star spreadsheet American wheel.   Have to analyze everything & find away to exploit that information.

I like 6 spins & try to win in the next 6 spins.  Sometimes I will play it out.  The game will go up & down then. My preference is hit my goal & Leave.

I have done this as well, I have recorded many sessions where consecutively I'd get stop loss. And when you get 15 consecutive stop loss sessions what would u do?

Talking about tracking in 6

how abt this example. 
131133  RBRBBB
333222  BBBBBB

Dozen 3 and black color trending how would u go abt it?                                 
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: number25 on May 16, 02:18 PM 2021
Quote from: Yoigo on May 16, 01:41 PM 2021
6 numbers eurpean single 0
-------------
34 21 13
28 20 29
14 26 35 9 18  extra chips on 14 & 35pendulum extra chips on 9 also


PW
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: number25 on May 16, 02:20 PM 2021
Quote from: mohitomish on May 16, 01:49 PM 2021
I have done this as well, I have recorded many sessions where consecutively I'd get stop loss. And when you get 15 consecutive stop loss sessions what would u do?

Talking about tracking in 6

how abt this example. 
131133  RBRBBB
333222  BBBBBB

Dozen 3 and black color trending how would u go abt it?                                 
Hard to say need actually spins.  Remember we have to track multiple things .
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: Yoigo on May 16, 02:35 PM 2021
32 9 21 win 9
Next
30 4 35 win 35

Congratulations!!!!! Number 25

Me matoooooooooo!!!!! 👍👍🎉
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: number25 on May 16, 02:42 PM 2021
Quote from: Yoigo on May 16, 02:35 PM 2021
32 9 21 win 9
Next
30 4 35 win 35

Congratulations!!!!! Number 25

Me matoooooooooo!!!!! 👍👍🎉
Awesome!  Looks like you understand what numbers to play. We beat that wheel. Again Hit & Run strategy.
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: number25 on May 16, 02:50 PM 2021
Lets see! Next spins I would of played
24 16 33 1 20 7 28

Extra chips on 24 28 01

Pw I would of bet 24 31 28
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: number25 on May 16, 03:05 PM 2021
Also In the first test spins. We only had to bet 5 numbers out of 12.  This way we can maximize are winnings.  Or losses.   

We can beat the wheel!  Just need discipline & Have to study Kimo Li way!
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: Yoigo on May 16, 03:05 PM 2021
The sequence continued like this.
34 21 13 28 20 29
32 9 21 30 4 35
32 12 12. 10 36 8
36 16 10 17 24 13
Again I have to congratulate you number 25.
I don't see it, I don't see it, I'm blind. :yawn:
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: number25 on May 16, 03:25 PM 2021
Quote from: Yoigo on May 16, 03:05 PM 2021
The sequence continued like this.
34 21 13 28 20 29
32 9 21 30 4 35
32 12 12. 10 36 8
36 16 10 17 24 13
Again I have to congratulate you number 25.
I don't see it, I don't see it, I'm blind. :yawn:
28! EXTRA CHIPS $$$$$$!

Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: carvigno on May 16, 03:59 PM 2021
Quote from: Yoigo on May 16, 03:05 PM 2021
The sequence continued like this.
34 21 13 28 20 29
32 9 21 30 4 35
32 12 12. 10 36 8
36 16 10 17 24 13
Again I have to congratulate you number 25.
I don't see it, I don't see it, I'm blind. :yawn:

Clearly the ball is favoring cloverxxx 2 (21,28,20, 21, 30, 4, 12, 12, 36, 36) . In 24 numbers spun dealer took a liking towards this wheel dozen. Pinweel 36 is also sticking out (9, 30, 12, 12, 10, 16, 10, 13) because of its frecuence along the blocks, appearing twice per block (first 3 numbers and last 3 numbers of each 6 numbers blocks)

Well done number25.
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: number25 on May 16, 04:09 PM 2021
Quote from: carvigno on May 16, 03:59 PM 2021
Clearly the ball is favoring cloverxxx 2 (21,28,20, 21, 30, 4, 12, 12, 36, 36) . In 24 numbers spun dealer took a liking towards this wheel dozen. Pinweel 36 is also sticking out (9, 30, 12, 12, 10, 16, 10, 13) because of its frecuence along the blocks, appearing twice per block (first 3 numbers and last 3 numbers of each 6 numbers blocks)

Well done number25.
Kimo Li work is a beautiful thing!  I never played European roulette wheel.   Only American,  But the same method will apply to both.

THANKS!
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: Yoigo on May 16, 04:14 PM 2021
Carvigno is correct but I am sure there are other follow-up factors that are not revealed, I refine too much playing 5 numbers alone.
I play 12 and sometimes he makes lost.
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: Yoigo on May 17, 02:06 PM 2021
And I saw it, but the tracking base was not pinwheel, the bet was.
Thanks.
  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: number25 on May 21, 02:43 PM 2021
25 19 35 12 32 12
28 36 04 07 19 09
32 01 30 19 28 27
11 15 05 14 13 04
19 01 24 16 18 08
28 26 21 10 14 33
01 14 09 26 29 20
16 36 15 14 20 23
27 14

Today's spins:  I will give you the winning numbers.  Track first 6 spins & then game on. American Wheel. I only bet 1to3 numbers. In Kimo Li book has a strategy called The Exact Number.  This is true!  It has been years of studying for me to understand this info.  Here we go!

36
28
L
L
28
14
14
14

Ask you can see I had 2 sets that I missed 12 spins . But only betting 3 numbers you can recoup fast.
Number25



Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: nottophammer on May 21, 04:11 PM 2021
Nice spins. +72 3rd #19
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: number25 on May 21, 05:24 PM 2021
Quote from: nottophammer on May 21, 04:11 PM 2021
Nice spins. +72 3rd #19
Thanks
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: number25 on May 22, 09:01 AM 2021
09 0  23 35 02 04
15 07 12 20 24 28
06 20 24

Todays numbers! Track first 6 spin then play . First set of 6 spins was L & Then the E.N.D. was number 24!  Playing for 1-3 numbers is real !

Number25
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: Yoigo on May 22, 09:27 AM 2021
Hi number 25.

European roulette:

01 07 36 30 04 22

?


Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: number25 on May 22, 12:02 PM 2021
Quote from: Yoigo on May 22, 09:27 AM 2021
Hi number 25.

European roulette:

01 07 36 30 04 22

?
How are you?  I never read Kimo Li European roulette book. 

You want me to play those 6 spins? For the E.N.D. ? 
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: Yoigo on May 22, 12:11 PM 2021
All good number 25.
Yes, play what could come out, if you need 6 more numbers I'll give them to you.
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: nottophammer on May 22, 12:15 PM 2021
Quote from: Yoigo on May 22, 12:11 PM 2021
All good number 25.
Yes, play what could come out, if you need 6 more numbers I'll give them to you.
Why not give another 54 spins. Then we'll see how the repeats shape up.
Data shows 30/60
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: Yoigo on May 22, 12:34 PM 2021
Hello notto, I have to say that I also read all your publications, your ktf system seems very good to me and now that you have started with the repetitions more, if you want I look for a long session and I send you the 60 numbers.
Greetings.
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: Yoigo on May 22, 12:46 PM 2021
60 numbers


5   24   30
11   11   21
14   25   2
12   13   32
34   11   14
11   30   5
18   21   8
24   20   5
2   10   3
33   4   6
33   13   22
17   22   11
10   11   30
35   34   11
11   21   27
15   5   32
33   7   37
30   17   33
37   12   10
22   34   20

Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: number25 on May 22, 12:56 PM 2021
Yoigo, Not sure if I can play the E.N.D. I don't have the European book. I will try to give you the numbers to bet.  I post my spin & give the winning number so people can try to figure it out. 

Again never read European roulette book.   Here we go
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: number25 on May 22, 01:08 PM 2021
Quote from: Yoigo on May 22, 09:27 AM 2021
Hi number 25.

European roulette:

01 07 36 30 04 22

?
I would of bet 34 / 16 I
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: number25 on May 22, 01:11 PM 2021
Quote from: Yoigo on May 22, 12:46 PM 2021
60 numbers


5   24   30
11   11   21
I would of bet 17 & 11
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: number25 on May 22, 01:14 PM 2021




14   25   2
12   13   32
I would bet 8 & 2 on this set
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: number25 on May 22, 01:16 PM 2021
Quote from: Yoigo on May 22, 12:46 PM 202134   11   14
11   30   5

34   11   14
11   30   5
would of bet 32 & 8
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: number25 on May 22, 01:19 PM 2021
Hope this helps you. The E.N.D. is a game changer!
Number25
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: Yoigo on May 22, 01:29 PM 2021
Good number 25,
The 16 did come out but at the 8th turn from the first row of 6.
So were the results.
01 07 36 30 04 22

21 32 13 22 10 31

30 (16) 4 35 12 06
       Hit
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: nottophammer on May 22, 01:42 PM 2021
Quote from: Yoigo on May 22, 12:46 PM 2021
60 numbers


5   24   30
11   11   21
14   25   2
12   13   32
34   11   14
11   30   5
18   21   8
24   20   5
2   10   3
33   4   6
33   13   22
17   22   11
10   11   30
35   34   11
11   21   27
15   5   32
33   7   37
30   17   33
37   12   10
22   34   20
Just to be sure is it 3 lines of 20 going down 5-11-14 or lines of 3; 5-24-30-11-11-21
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: Yoigo on May 22, 01:48 PM 2021
5 24 30 11 11 21 lineas de 3.
:thumbsup:
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: number25 on May 22, 02:06 PM 2021
Quote from: Yoigo on May 22, 01:29 PM 2021
Good number 25,
The 16 did come out but at the 8th turn from the first row of 6.
So were the results.
01 07 36 30 04 22

21 32 13 22 10 31

30 (16) 4 35 12 06
       Hit
Yes betting 2 numbers is good has to hit in 18 spins.  But betting in groups of 6 spins we can avoid the loss& we did hit that number 8. 

Hope this helps you.
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: number25 on May 26, 08:23 AM 2021
0  03  22  00  23  12
01  19  36  17  09  0
07  28  18  17  05  04
11  28  27  27  10

Todays numbers playing Kimo Li's  spin on  Tesla 369! But he has them into these groups of 189  267  345!
I was tracking 6 spins increments.  Here are the winning spins and I did hit my goal for this session.

23
36
17
10

Number25
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: number25 on Jun 20, 04:22 PM 2021
07 10 03 20 01 29    25B 25H 14H 36H 14H

06 15 02 33 06 05     14H 14N 36B 36H 14B14B

22 21 04 09 05 15     25B 25B 25H 25H 14H 14H

20 37 20 19 31 04     14H OO 14  14B 25B 25H

21 28 30 18 20 30     25H 14N 14B 36N 14B 14H

04 30 15 25 07 27     25H 14H 14N 36H 36B 14B

07 14 08 18 25 19      36B 25N 36N 36H 36H 14H


Spins in sets of 6

Then track the ball movement with Bow Tie & Hemi & Nuke & with PW Stars 14 25 36!  The picture is very clear how to beat the wheel.
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: mohitomish on Jun 21, 05:20 PM 2021
In the first row , at the beginning, the ball goes from 7 to 10 which is a bowtie but 10 is star 6 , why have you written 25 ?
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: number25 on Jun 22, 03:26 AM 2021
Quote from: mohitomish on Jun 21, 05:20 PM 2021
In the first row , at the beginning, the ball goes from 7 to 10 which is a bowtie but 10 is star 6 , why have you written 25 ?

7 was the first number to start the game.  Yes it was a bowtie & number 10 belongs to PW 25.  This is American roulette spins.  This is  why I marked it 25B . 
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: mohitomish on Jun 22, 04:57 AM 2021
Oh! I thought it was a European wheel. So, how do you commence playing? in the first row, dealer is doing hemi so you play hemi for 6 spins in the second row?
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: number25 on Jun 22, 12:14 PM 2021
Quote from: mohitomish on Jun 22, 04:57 AM 2021
Oh! I thought it was a European wheel. So, how do you commence playing? in the first row, dealer is doing hemi so you play hemi for 6 spins in the second row?

We could play this multiple way.  Take the hemi for six spins .  Then we have strong Pw 14 & 25 .  So now we can cut down the 12 number bet into 8 numbers bet.  Also look at the odd & even.  More odd numbers then even. I would off put extra chips on 15 . Why because it was in the PW 14 & odd.

Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: mohitomish on Jun 23, 02:25 PM 2021
Quote from: number25 on Jun 22, 12:14 PM 2021


We could play this multiple way.  Take the hemi for six spins .  Then we have strong Pw 14 & 25 .  So now we can cut down the 12 number bet into 8 numbers bet.  Also look at the odd & even.  More odd numbers then even. I would off put extra chips on 15 . Why because it was in the PW 14 & odd.

Do you believe that this can be used to beat the wheel and have a steady income consistently? Are you able to do it? Because I have already tried all this but in the end the strike rate doesn't get better than expected.
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: number25 on Jun 25, 09:57 AM 2021
Quote from: mohitomish on Jun 23, 02:25 PM 2021
Do you believe that this can be used to beat the wheel and have a steady income consistently? Are you able to do it? Because I have already tried all this but in the end the strike rate doesn't get better than expected.

Do you play with a goal?  Money Management?  Can you make $100 a day playing Kimo Li way?   
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: mohitomish on Jun 25, 01:25 PM 2021
Quote from: number25 on Jun 25, 09:57 AM 2021


Do you play with a goal?  Money Management?  Can you make $100 a day playing Kimo Li way?

I have always played with just the trending number groups like color, pinwheel, etc but never incorporated ball movement with it.  Even with MM, goals, it failed resulting in around 20 failed sessions at a stretch sometimes.  Are you saying by including movement we can win consistently?
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: number25 on Jun 25, 06:35 PM 2021
Quote from: mohitomish on Jun 25, 01:25 PM 2021
I have always played with just the trending number groups like color, pinwheel, etc but never incorporated ball movement with it.  Even with MM, goals, it failed resulting in around 20 failed sessions at a stretch sometimes.  Are you saying by including movement we can win consistently?

Wow, Hope you find away to win. I have never lost 20 games in a row.  That is crazy. 

Post 6 spins & European wheel? 

Lets see what we can do. If you want.

Number25
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: mohitomish on Jun 26, 10:03 AM 2021
Quote from: number25 on Jun 25, 06:35 PM 2021
Wow, Hope you find away to win. I have never lost 20 games in a row.  That is crazy. 

Post 6 spins & European wheel? 

Lets see what we can do. If you want.

Number25


Here are the numbers, also please tell me the movement and no group you play

28   28   24
19   17   4
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: Kimo Li on Jun 26, 03:00 PM 2021
0
5
10
24
26
32
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: number25 on Jun 26, 04:28 PM 2021
Quote from: mohitomish on Jun 26, 10:03 AM 2021

Here are the numbers, also please tell me the movement and no group you play

28   28   24
19   17   4

Let work this out !

28  28  24 19 17  04     25B  25N  36B  25H  14H

We have strong Hemi & Pw 25 & we have 4 even numbers maybe E.N.D. 28.   numbers to bet 17 27 28 03   
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: number25 on Jun 26, 04:42 PM 2021
Quote from: Kimo Li on Jun 26, 03:00 PM 2021
0
5
10
24
26
32

Have a question,  You put out heavy 16 is that because stars 16 are due?  With the number given stars 16 was way behind out of the 6 spin. Also you did bet for EVEN to come in.  Just my observation
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: mohitomish on Jun 26, 05:00 PM 2021
The next 6 numbers are(these are European wheel numbers by the way):

31   9   30
35   31   10

U say Hemi was dominant but it only came twice out of 6 spins. Kimo's number 10 hit but 6 numbers within 6 spins is not out of the ordinary, If somehow we can get the same strike rate within 3 spins now that is something special.
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: number25 on Jun 26, 05:48 PM 2021
Quote from: mohitomish on Jun 26, 05:00 PM 2021
The next 6 numbers are(these are European wheel numbers by the way):

31   9   30
35   31   10

U say Hemi was dominant but it only came twice out of 6 spins. Kimo's number 10 hit but 6 numbers within 6 spins is not out of the ordinary, If somehow we can get the same strike rate within 3 spins now that is something special.

Flip the game around then play 03 05 13 21 23 31 ! next 6 spins Heavy on 03 05 31 Hope we hit in the next 6 spins!

Kimo Li number did win.   




Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: number25 on Jun 26, 05:50 PM 2021
Quote from: number25 on Jun 26, 05:48 PM 2021


Flip the game around then play 03 05 13 21 23 31 ! next 6 spins Heavy on 03 05 31 Hope we hit in the next 6 spins!

Kimo Li number did win.

Also PW 25 was the right call if 12 number was your bet. 
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: mohitomish on Jun 26, 06:23 PM 2021
I am a bit confused. If you play movement then wouldn't that be dynamically changing after each spin? If Hemi was dominant then for each number in the next set of spin the corresponding Hemi numbers will be different?  Can you elaborate as to how you have a fixed set of numbers to bet?
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: number25 on Jun 26, 06:34 PM 2021
Quote from: mohitomish on Jun 26, 06:23 PM 2021
I am a bit confused. If you play movement then wouldn't that be dynamically changing after each spin? If Hemi was dominant then for each number in the next set of spin the corresponding Hemi numbers will be different?  Can you elaborate as to how you have a fixed set of numbers to bet?

Did we win on the 03 05 13 21 23 31?
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: number25 on Jun 26, 06:48 PM 2021
Quote from: mohitomish on Jun 26, 06:23 PM 2021
I am a bit confused. If you play movement then wouldn't that be dynamically changing after each spin? If Hemi was dominant then for each number in the next set of spin the corresponding Hemi numbers will be different?  Can you elaborate as to how you have a fixed set of numbers to bet?

I have thought about that. But my numbers choice was base of the last spin for the hemi.   

The last few days of play have been base off the sum of 27 & 49.  That is in Kimo Li book.  Nothing to do with European roulette book. 

The American wheel has that sum of 27 & 49 all over the wheel.  6 pack groups that are made up on the carpet. Then the other 12 numbers are group together in a 6 pack. 

So for me what does this mean.  Well in 8 spins. I am looking for only 4 spins to have a match or trigger.   Then if we have a trigger I will bet those 12 or 2 six packs.  Now I don't need to write down spins to keep track of the numbers.   I know this info can't help you unless you play American roulette.



Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: mohitomish on Jun 27, 05:29 AM 2021
Quote from: number25 on Jun 26, 05:48 PM 2021


Flip the game around then play 03 05 13 21 23 31 ! next 6 spins Heavy on 03 05 31 Hope we hit in the next 6 spins!

Kimo Li number did win.


The next nos were

5   15   33
16   23   15
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: number25 on Jun 27, 06:41 AM 2021
Quote from: mohitomish on Jun 27, 05:29 AM 2021

The next nos were

5   15   33
16   23   15

Awesome we got a win.  So I change my game up to root numbers from Kimo Li.   

189 267 345 the 345 was a good choice.   Did not want to bet all 12 of those numbers so I cut them down with odd/even.   Odd was the choice.  03 05 13 21 23 31.   

I do lose when I play.  I can not beat every wheel.  What has help me now is bet less numbers. 

Thanks,  Number25
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: mohitomish on Jun 27, 07:19 AM 2021
Quote from: number25 on Jun 27, 06:41 AM 2021
Awesome we got a win.  So I change my game up to root numbers from Kimo Li.   

189 267 345 the 345 was a good choice.   Did not want to bet all 12 of those numbers so I cut them down with odd/even.   Odd was the choice.  03 05 13 21 23 31.   

I do lose when I play.  I can not beat every wheel.  What has help me now is bet less numbers. 

Thanks,  Number25

Here your play style contradicts Kimo's,  he says to keep betting on the trend that won until the trend ends and we lose a set?
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: number25 on Jun 27, 09:55 AM 2021
Quote from: mohitomish on Jun 27, 07:19 AM 2021
Here your play style contradicts Kimo's,  he says to keep betting on the trend that won until the trend ends and we lose a set?

That is good advice,  But we did lose a set.  My style of play is look for everything.
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: number25 on Jun 27, 11:25 AM 2021
This only my Idea of root numbers. Tesla circle

1 +
2  +
4  +

5 -
7 -
8 -

9

So the root numbers are positive have a + & - are negative root numbers.   This how I play it. Zero don't count for anything

26 0 25  negative/ positive no bet

20 20 33.   + / + / -

We have a bet now + was strong & even also.  We want positive even numbers to bet. 

10/28/20/02/04/22/12/30/18
36.  Next spins

12 30 09 2 18 30

Just idea & yes I played this way today at my casino.   Made profit! Happy roulette!

Number25

Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: number25 on Jun 27, 05:08 PM 2021
Hope this helps make sense, From my last post. 

So the root numbers

1 2  3  4  are positive

5   6   7   8  are negative

9 is positive, But we can split them up for Odd & Even

I would always split them up with odd & even.  Just to cut down the amount of numbers to bet.

Just my idea!

This is just my idea!
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: alexlaf on Dec 01, 07:45 AM 2021
Kimo Li
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: gianfrancopierino on Dec 01, 09:31 AM 2021
manual or RX system written?
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: alexlaf on Dec 01, 02:41 PM 2021
GIANFRANCOPIERIN manual
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: number25 on Dec 01, 06:16 PM 2021
Quote from: alexlaf on Dec 01, 07:45 AM 2021
Kimo Li

So what is style of play with Kimo Li work?

Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: alexlaf on Dec 02, 06:39 AM 2021
CORNER BETS

There are 22 possible corner bets within the layout. I want to share a concept that uses only 16 corners. These "core" 16 corners produces 256 combinations using 4 corner bets, a total of 16 numbers for each betting cycle. See below:

01-- 1 1 1 1
02-- 1 1 1 2
03-- 1 1 1 3
04-- 1 1 1 4
05-- 1 1 2 1
06-- 1 1 2 2
07-- 1 1 2 3
08-- 1 1 2 4
09-- 1 1 3 1
10-- 1 1 3 2
11-- 1 1 3 3
12-- 1 1 3 4
13-- 1 1 4 1
14-- 1 1 4 2
15-- 1 1 4 3
16-- 1 1 4 4
17-- 1 2 1 1
18-- 1 2 1 2
19-- 1 2 1 3
20-- 1 2 1 4
21-- 1 2 2 1
22-- 1 2 2 2
23-- 1 2 2 3
24-- 1 2 2 4
25-- 1 2 3 1
26-- 1 2 3 2
27-- 1 2 3 3
28-- 1 2 3 4
29-- 1 2 4 1
30-- 1 2 4 2
31-- 1 2 4 3
32-- 1 2 4 4
33-- 1 3 1 1
34-- 1 3 1 2
35-- 1 3 1 3
36-- 1 3 1 4
37-- 1 3 2 1
38-- 1 3 2 2
39-- 1 3 2 3
40-- 1 3 2 4
41-- 1 3 3 1
42-- 1 3 3 2
43-- 1 3 3 3
44-- 1 3 3 4
45-- 1 3 4 1
46-- 1 3 4 2
47-- 1 3 4 3
48-- 1 3 4 4
49-- 1 4 1 1
50-- 1 4 1 2
51-- 1 4 1 3
52-- 1 4 1 4
53-- 1 4 2 1
54-- 1 4 2 2
55-- 1 4 2 3
56-- 1 4 2 4
57-- 1 4 3 1
58-- 1 4 3 2
59-- 1 4 3 3
60-- 1 4 3 4
61-- 1 4 4 1
62-- 1 4 4 2
63-- 1 4 4 3
64-- 1 4 4 4
65-- 2 1 1 1
66-- 2 1 1 2
67-- 2 1 1 3
68-- 2 1 1 4
69-- 2 1 2 1
70-- 2 1 2 2
71-- 2 1 2 3
72-- 2 1 2 4
73-- 2 1 3 1
74-- 2 1 3 2
75-- 2 1 3 3
76-- 2 1 3 4
77-- 2 1 4 1
78-- 2 1 4 2
79-- 2 1 4 3
80-- 2 1 4 4
81-- 2 2 1 1
82-- 2 2 1 2
83-- 2 2 1 3
84-- 2 2 1 4
85-- 2 2 2 1
86-- 2 2 2 2
87-- 2 2 2 3
88-- 2 2 2 4
89-- 2 2 3 1
90-- 2 2 3 2
91-- 2 2 3 3
92-- 2 2 3 4
93-- 2 2 4 1
94-- 2 2 4 2
95-- 2 2 4 3
96-- 2 2 4 4
97-- 2 3 1 1
98-- 2 3 1 2
99-- 2 3 1 3
100- 2 3 1 4
101- 2 3 2 1
102- 2 3 2 2
103- 2 3 2 3
104- 2 3 2 4
105- 2 3 3 1
106- 2 3 3 2
107- 2 3 3 3
108- 2 3 3 4
109- 2 3 4 1
110- 2 3 4 2
111- 2 3 4 3
112- 2 3 4 4
113- 2 4 1 1
114- 2 4 1 2
115- 2 4 1 3
116- 2 4 1 4
117- 2 4 2 1
118- 2 4 2 2
119- 2 4 2 3
120- 2 4 2 4
121- 2 4 3 1
122- 2 4 3 2
123- 2 4 3 3
124- 2 4 3 4
125- 2 4 4 1
126- 2 4 4 2
127- 2 4 4 3
128- 2 4 4 4
129- 3 1 1 1
130- 3 1 1 2
131- 3 1 1 3
132- 3 1 1 4
133- 3 1 2 1
134- 3 1 2 2
135- 3 1 2 3
136- 3 1 2 4
137- 3 1 3 1
138- 3 1 3 2
139- 3 1 3 3
140- 3 1 3 4
141- 3 1 4 1
142- 3 1 4 2
143- 3 1 4 3
144- 3 1 4 4
145- 3 2 1 1
146- 3 2 1 2
147- 3 2 1 3
148- 3 2 1 4
149- 3 2 2 1
150- 3 2 2 2
151- 3 2 2 3
152- 3 2 2 4
153- 3 2 3 1
154- 3 2 3 2
155- 3 2 3 3
156- 3 2 3 4
157- 3 2 4 1
158- 3 2 4 2
159- 3 2 4 3
160- 3 2 4 4
161- 3 3 1 1
162- 3 3 1 2
163- 3 3 1 3
164- 3 3 1 4
165- 3 3 2 1
166- 3 3 2 2
167- 3 3 2 3
168- 3 3 2 4
169- 3 3 3 1
170- 3 3 3 2
171- 3 3 3 3
172- 3 3 3 4
173- 3 3 4 1
174- 3 3 4 2
175- 3 3 4 3
176- 3 3 4 4
177- 3 4 1 1
178- 3 4 1 2
179- 3 4 1 3
180- 3 4 1 4
181- 3 4 2 1
182- 3 4 2 2
183- 3 4 2 3
184- 3 4 2 4
185- 3 4 3 1
186- 3 4 3 2
187- 3 4 3 3
188- 3 4 3 4
189- 3 4 4 1
190- 3 4 4 2
191- 3 4 4 3
192- 3 4 4 4
193- 4 1 1 1
194- 4 1 1 2
195- 4 1 1 3
196- 4 1 1 4
197- 4 1 2 1
198- 4 1 2 2
199- 4 1 2 3
200- 4 1 2 4
201- 4 1 3 1
202- 4 1 3 2
203- 4 1 3 3
204- 4 1 3 4
205- 4 1 4 1
206- 4 1 4 2
207- 4 1 4 3
208- 4 1 4 4
209- 4 2 1 1
210- 4 2 1 2
211- 4 2 1 3
212- 4 2 1 4
213- 4 2 2 1
214- 4 2 2 2
215- 4 2 2 3
216- 4 2 2 4
217- 4 2 3 1
218- 4 2 3 2
219- 4 2 3 3
220- 4 2 3 4
221- 4 2 4 1
222- 4 2 4 2
223- 4 2 4 3
224- 4 2 4 4
225- 4 3 1 1
226- 4 3 1 2
227- 4 3 1 3
228- 4 3 1 4
229- 4 3 2 1
230- 4 3 2 2
231- 4 3 2 3
232- 4 3 2 4
233- 4 3 3 1
234- 4 3 3 2
235- 4 3 3 3
236- 4 3 3 4
237- 4 3 4 1
238- 4 3 4 2
239- 4 3 4 3
240- 4 3 4 4
241- 4 4 1 1
242- 4 4 1 2
243- 4 4 1 3
244- 4 4 1 4
245- 4 4 2 1
246- 4 4 2 2
247- 4 4 2 3
248- 4 4 2 4
249- 4 4 3 1
250- 4 4 3 2
251- 4 4 3 3
252- 4 4 3 4
253- 4 4 4 1
254- 4 4 4 2
255- 4 4 4 3
256- 4 4 4 4

What are the "core" 16 corners? How do we recognize each corner? We have to make some kind of logical sense so most beginning roulette players can follow.

The first thing we have to do is divide the table layout into four equal parts. We shall call them Quads Layout, Quads for short.

1) 01 through 09
2) 10 through 18
3) 19 through 27
4) 28 through 36
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: number25 on Dec 02, 06:08 PM 2021
Quote from: alexlaf on Dec 02, 06:39 AM 2021
CORNER BETS

There are 22 possible corner bets within the layout. I want to share a concept that uses only 16 corners. These "core" 16 corners produces 256 combinations using 4 corner bets, a total of 16 numbers for each betting cycle. See below:

01-- 1 1 1 1
02-- 1 1 1 2
03-- 1 1 1 3
04-- 1 1 1 4
05-- 1 1 2 1
06-- 1 1 2 2
07-- 1 1 2 3
08-- 1 1 2 4
09-- 1 1 3 1
10-- 1 1 3 2
11-- 1 1 3 3
12-- 1 1 3 4
13-- 1 1 4 1
14-- 1 1 4 2
15-- 1 1 4 3
16-- 1 1 4 4
17-- 1 2 1 1
18-- 1 2 1 2
19-- 1 2 1 3
20-- 1 2 1 4
21-- 1 2 2 1
22-- 1 2 2 2
23-- 1 2 2 3
24-- 1 2 2 4
25-- 1 2 3 1
26-- 1 2 3 2
27-- 1 2 3 3
28-- 1 2 3 4
29-- 1 2 4 1
30-- 1 2 4 2
31-- 1 2 4 3
32-- 1 2 4 4
33-- 1 3 1 1
34-- 1 3 1 2
35-- 1 3 1 3
36-- 1 3 1 4
37-- 1 3 2 1
38-- 1 3 2 2
39-- 1 3 2 3
40-- 1 3 2 4
41-- 1 3 3 1
42-- 1 3 3 2
43-- 1 3 3 3
44-- 1 3 3 4
45-- 1 3 4 1
46-- 1 3 4 2
47-- 1 3 4 3
48-- 1 3 4 4
49-- 1 4 1 1
50-- 1 4 1 2
51-- 1 4 1 3
52-- 1 4 1 4
53-- 1 4 2 1
54-- 1 4 2 2
55-- 1 4 2 3
56-- 1 4 2 4
57-- 1 4 3 1
58-- 1 4 3 2
59-- 1 4 3 3
60-- 1 4 3 4
61-- 1 4 4 1
62-- 1 4 4 2
63-- 1 4 4 3
64-- 1 4 4 4
65-- 2 1 1 1
66-- 2 1 1 2
67-- 2 1 1 3
68-- 2 1 1 4
69-- 2 1 2 1
70-- 2 1 2 2
71-- 2 1 2 3
72-- 2 1 2 4
73-- 2 1 3 1
74-- 2 1 3 2
75-- 2 1 3 3
76-- 2 1 3 4
77-- 2 1 4 1
78-- 2 1 4 2
79-- 2 1 4 3
80-- 2 1 4 4
81-- 2 2 1 1
82-- 2 2 1 2
83-- 2 2 1 3
84-- 2 2 1 4
85-- 2 2 2 1
86-- 2 2 2 2
87-- 2 2 2 3
88-- 2 2 2 4
89-- 2 2 3 1
90-- 2 2 3 2
91-- 2 2 3 3
92-- 2 2 3 4
93-- 2 2 4 1
94-- 2 2 4 2
95-- 2 2 4 3
96-- 2 2 4 4
97-- 2 3 1 1
98-- 2 3 1 2
99-- 2 3 1 3
100- 2 3 1 4
101- 2 3 2 1
102- 2 3 2 2
103- 2 3 2 3
104- 2 3 2 4
105- 2 3 3 1
106- 2 3 3 2
107- 2 3 3 3
108- 2 3 3 4
109- 2 3 4 1
110- 2 3 4 2
111- 2 3 4 3
112- 2 3 4 4
113- 2 4 1 1
114- 2 4 1 2
115- 2 4 1 3
116- 2 4 1 4
117- 2 4 2 1
118- 2 4 2 2
119- 2 4 2 3
120- 2 4 2 4
121- 2 4 3 1
122- 2 4 3 2
123- 2 4 3 3
124- 2 4 3 4
125- 2 4 4 1
126- 2 4 4 2
127- 2 4 4 3
128- 2 4 4 4
129- 3 1 1 1
130- 3 1 1 2
131- 3 1 1 3
132- 3 1 1 4
133- 3 1 2 1
134- 3 1 2 2
135- 3 1 2 3
136- 3 1 2 4
137- 3 1 3 1
138- 3 1 3 2
139- 3 1 3 3
140- 3 1 3 4
141- 3 1 4 1
142- 3 1 4 2
143- 3 1 4 3
144- 3 1 4 4
145- 3 2 1 1
146- 3 2 1 2
147- 3 2 1 3
148- 3 2 1 4
149- 3 2 2 1
150- 3 2 2 2
151- 3 2 2 3
152- 3 2 2 4
153- 3 2 3 1
154- 3 2 3 2
155- 3 2 3 3
156- 3 2 3 4
157- 3 2 4 1
158- 3 2 4 2
159- 3 2 4 3
160- 3 2 4 4
161- 3 3 1 1
162- 3 3 1 2
163- 3 3 1 3
164- 3 3 1 4
165- 3 3 2 1
166- 3 3 2 2
167- 3 3 2 3
168- 3 3 2 4
169- 3 3 3 1
170- 3 3 3 2
171- 3 3 3 3
172- 3 3 3 4
173- 3 3 4 1
174- 3 3 4 2
175- 3 3 4 3
176- 3 3 4 4
177- 3 4 1 1
178- 3 4 1 2
179- 3 4 1 3
180- 3 4 1 4
181- 3 4 2 1
182- 3 4 2 2
183- 3 4 2 3
184- 3 4 2 4
185- 3 4 3 1
186- 3 4 3 2
187- 3 4 3 3
188- 3 4 3 4
189- 3 4 4 1
190- 3 4 4 2
191- 3 4 4 3
192- 3 4 4 4
193- 4 1 1 1
194- 4 1 1 2
195- 4 1 1 3
196- 4 1 1 4
197- 4 1 2 1
198- 4 1 2 2
199- 4 1 2 3
200- 4 1 2 4
201- 4 1 3 1
202- 4 1 3 2
203- 4 1 3 3
204- 4 1 3 4
205- 4 1 4 1
206- 4 1 4 2
207- 4 1 4 3
208- 4 1 4 4
209- 4 2 1 1
210- 4 2 1 2
211- 4 2 1 3
212- 4 2 1 4
213- 4 2 2 1
214- 4 2 2 2
215- 4 2 2 3
216- 4 2 2 4
217- 4 2 3 1
218- 4 2 3 2
219- 4 2 3 3
220- 4 2 3 4
221- 4 2 4 1
222- 4 2 4 2
223- 4 2 4 3
224- 4 2 4 4
225- 4 3 1 1
226- 4 3 1 2
227- 4 3 1 3
228- 4 3 1 4
229- 4 3 2 1
230- 4 3 2 2
231- 4 3 2 3
232- 4 3 2 4
233- 4 3 3 1
234- 4 3 3 2
235- 4 3 3 3
236- 4 3 3 4
237- 4 3 4 1
238- 4 3 4 2
239- 4 3 4 3
240- 4 3 4 4
241- 4 4 1 1
242- 4 4 1 2
243- 4 4 1 3
244- 4 4 1 4
245- 4 4 2 1
246- 4 4 2 2
247- 4 4 2 3
248- 4 4 2 4
249- 4 4 3 1
250- 4 4 3 2
251- 4 4 3 3
252- 4 4 3 4
253- 4 4 4 1
254- 4 4 4 2
255- 4 4 4 3
256- 4 4 4 4

What are the "core" 16 corners? How do we recognize each corner? We have to make some kind of logical sense so most beginning roulette players can follow.

The first thing we have to do is divide the table layout into four equal parts. We shall call them Quads Layout, Quads for short.

1) 01 through 09
2) 10 through 18
3) 19 through 27
4) 28 through 36

So how does one used this info? 

Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: alexlaf on Dec 03, 03:57 PM 2021
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: alexlaf on Dec 05, 01:12 PM 2021
Not Bad..
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: The General on Dec 05, 10:17 PM 2021
Quote from: alexlaf on Dec 05, 01:12 PM 2021
Not Bad..

Not good!  Good lord that draw down is horrible.  Are you running an up as you lose progression?

Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: alexlaf on Dec 06, 05:02 AM 2021
-375 for you is horrible? on 500 spin?
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: alexlaf on Dec 06, 05:27 AM 2021
In GENERAL i am +
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: mohitomish on Dec 06, 11:10 AM 2021
What's the point of this if you are not going to explain how you play?
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: alexlaf on Dec 06, 01:28 PM 2021
I am trying for quad or the hot number on that quad...
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: number25 on Dec 06, 03:45 PM 2021
Quote from: alexlaf on Dec 06, 01:28 PM 2021
I am trying for quad or the hot number on that quad...

You can Track this so many ways! 

1.  COLUMNS

2.  ROWS

3.  ROOT RUMBERS

4. ODD/EVEN HIGH/LOW

5.  NUMBER POSITIONS

So you can bet few numbers this way!  Good stuff !   

Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: Yoigo on Dec 06, 04:10 PM 2021
This really works, 👍
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: number25 on Dec 06, 06:47 PM 2021
@ Yoigo !

How have things been? Still  playing PW?
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: Taotie on Dec 06, 11:22 PM 2021
Quote from: mohitomish on Dec 06, 11:10 AM 2021
What's the point of this if you are not going to explain how you play?

It's an us and them thing, same as religious zealotry. If you know, you are embraced into the fold, and if you don't? You can burn in hell with all the other unbaptised and disbelievers.

...that's the point.






Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: Taotie on Dec 06, 11:30 PM 2021
Quote from: alexlaf on Dec 06, 05:02 AM 2021
-375 for you is horrible? on 500 spin?

Don't worry too much about the General. You can draw down all day long and still win if you know what you're doing.
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: The General on Dec 06, 11:32 PM 2021
Quote from: alexlaf on Dec 06, 05:27 AM 2021
In GENERAL i am +

Why?

If you believe your system works, then you should use an up as you win progression that's based on your bankroll size.  For example, bet 1% of your bankroll at each spin.  If you have the edge, then you can shoot for the chandeliers.
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: Ross on Dec 07, 03:40 AM 2021
Welcome back General.
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: alexlaf on Dec 07, 06:26 AM 2021
From yesterday live..
I have the spins if y like ..
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: alexlaf on Dec 08, 07:43 AM 2021
 And this is what COMPA did post..
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: Clf7 on Dec 08, 08:44 AM 2021
Quote from: alexlaf on Dec 08, 07:43 AM 2021
And this is what COMPA did post..

lool, are you  kidding? Not even one longterm test of min.500K spins, these are only some few hundred spins...
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: alexlaf on Dec 08, 09:09 AM 2021
Why this forum is an ATTACK all the time?
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: Kimo Li on Dec 08, 11:26 AM 2021
Attached is my Corner Matrix
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: alexlaf on Dec 08, 03:51 PM 2021
600 more, two versions:
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: alexlaf on Dec 09, 07:10 PM 2021
+500
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: ludo8400 on Dec 14, 11:35 AM 2021
@ KImo LI

I have ordered your 2 books.
I will read them.

I am living in Belgium (Europe)
:)
Ludo8400
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: leoncino74 on Dec 14, 01:38 PM 2021
Quote from: alexlaf on Dec 09, 07:10 PM 2021
+500

Help us understand please......
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: Kimo Li on Dec 15, 12:38 AM 2021
Quote from: ludo8400 on Dec 14, 11:35 AM 2021
@ KImo LI

I have ordered your 2 books.
I will read them.

I am living in Belgium (Europe)
:)
Ludo8400

Thank you for your purchase.
I hope you enjoy the content.

Kimo
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: Mister Eko on Dec 20, 06:30 AM 2021
Quote from: alexlaf on Dec 09, 07:10 PM 2021
+500

Roulette HG confirmed?
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: jono1167 on Jan 03, 10:59 PM 2022
Quote from: ludo8400 on Dec 14, 11:35 AM 2021
@ KImo LI

I have ordered your 2 books.
I will read them.

I am living in Belgium (Europe)
:)
Ludo8400

Careful, I had a friend who paid $1000 for one of his methods. It didn’t work.
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: Kimo Li on Jan 04, 04:25 AM 2022
Quote from: jono1167 on Jan 03, 10:59 PM 2022
Careful, I had a friend who paid $1000 for one of his methods. It didn’t work.

Hi J Hay...

Tell your friend to contact me regarding his claim.
I liked to hear this from the horse's mouth.

Kimo Li
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: jono1167 on Jan 04, 03:21 PM 2022
Quote from: Kimo Li on Jan 04, 04:25 AM 2022
Hi J Hay...

Tell your friend to contact me regarding his claim.
I liked to hear this from the horse's mouth.

Kimo Li

Of course. I’ll pass it on.

I have a query. We all know betting dozens and columns offers no long-term advantage. Your Pinwheel is 36 numbers broken down into three groups of twelve numbers. Given dozens and columns offers no advantage, how does your Pinwheel method beat the odds?
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: Kimo Li on Jan 04, 03:56 PM 2022
" We all know betting dozens and columns offers no long-term advantage. "

If you ALL know betting dozens and columns offers no long-term advantage, why would you play roulette?

Without a doubt, betting dozens or columns have an advantage. The Pinwheel approach not only encompass the 12 number principle, but adds an advantage with the strategic targeting of the placement of numbers with regards to wheel head physics.

The advantage is not only in the choice of numbers but the tracking and betting principles.
Of course you must include money management and bank roll requirements.

More importantly, common sense plays a huge role. We ALL know that common sense, or lack there of, can destroy any approach.

Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: SWEET on Jan 04, 07:55 PM 2022
Quote from: jono1167 on Jan 04, 03:21 PM 2022


I have a query. We all know betting dozens and columns offers no long-term advantage. Your Pinwheel is 36 numbers broken down into three groups of twelve numbers. Given dozens and columns offers no advantage, how does your Pinwheel method beat the odds?
Gentlemen,

Imho, pinwheel strategy,
is HG...

As you said,

"how does your Pinwheel method beat the odds?"

If wheel tilted,
a segment keep hitting,
if wheel well balanced, all will hit fairly.

IF tilted, one or two dozen keep hitting,

if balanced,
All dz,
almost ,
hit fairly,



What more could you ask for.?
Few members here already keep their mouths, tightly shut, and I also refrain from saying anything more,
but I need to say this,

its a HG. 
period.

Btw, fyi,
Kimo Li and I never met, and never pay a single cent to each other.


Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: SWEET on Jan 04, 08:13 PM 2022
I just try to help who want to work hard to understand,
Then you "AHA!",
you will ,like others, that already understand,
you will , by human nature,
keep your mouth tightly shut.

Wheel biased, tilted, thus huge variance.

Well balanced, thus little or huge variance,
in long run.
Thus you need to read the data, and act ACCORDINGLY.

knowing when to start bet, when to progression, and cut loss ,too.

Human , by their habit, and brain power, cant understand what I blabbering about,
Thus one word of unsolicited advice,
START PRACTICING, NOW!

And will understand
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: number25 on Jan 04, 08:49 PM 2022
Quote from: jono1167 on Jan 03, 10:59 PM 2022
Careful, I had a friend who paid $1000 for one of his methods. It didn’t work.

Your crazy His stuff works! 
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: number25 on Jan 04, 08:54 PM 2022
Quote from: jono1167 on Jan 04, 03:21 PM 2022
Of course. I’ll pass it on.

I have a query. We all know betting dozens and columns offers no long-term advantage. Your Pinwheel is 36 numbers broken down into three groups of twelve numbers. Given dozens and columns offers no advantage, how does your Pinwheel method beat the odds?

Lets play a game of roulette using PW! I will need spin & I only play American roulette..... Lets take a spin or NOT
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: jono1167 on Jan 10, 04:27 PM 2022
Quote from: number25 on Jan 04, 08:54 PM 2022
 

Lets play a game of roulette using PW! I will need spin & I only play American roulette..... Lets take a spin or NOT

It's encouraging to hear people come out in support of Kimo Li. I will look into this some more....
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: jono1167 on Jan 10, 04:31 PM 2022
Quote from: Kimo Li on Jan 04, 03:56 PM 2022
" We all know betting dozens and columns offers no long-term advantage. "

If you ALL know betting dozens and columns offers no long-term advantage, why would you play roulette?

Without a doubt, betting dozens or columns have an advantage. The Pinwheel approach not only encompass the 12 number principle, but adds an advantage with the strategic targeting of the placement of numbers with regards to wheel head physics.

The advantage is not only in the choice of numbers but the tracking and betting principles.
Of course you must include money management and bank roll requirements.

More importantly, common sense plays a huge role. We ALL know that common sense, or lack there of, can destroy any approach.

Thanks for the response. It's good to see people come out supporting you. I will look into this some more.

Quote from: SWEET on Jan 04, 07:55 PM 2022
Gentlemen,

Imho, pinwheel strategy,
is HG...

Btw, fyi,
Kimo Li and I never met, and never pay a single cent to each other.

Thanks Sweet. Appreciate the input.
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: TRD on Jan 10, 06:12 PM 2022
Quote from: alexlaf on Dec 06, 05:02 AM 2021
-375 for you is horrible? on 500 spin?

Yes.

My advice is ..

Since a 300 spin sitting is kind of B&M daily session .. unless you're doing a marathon.
Making a 30% profit goal & adjusting to that, so about 0.3u/spin.

Than will reduce the working bankroll requirement to about 300u & profit target to about 100u.
This also means you can upgrade the base unit faster at the same credit brought in;
although having nonetheless 500u with for a good measure is always a great thing (credit & psychologically) but limit the working load to 300u.

I've seen in your graphs that when no longer drawdown games are amidst you make in 300 spins much more than hundred units. This in turn means that with a reduced profit expectation gives you extra time or extra spins .. to incorporate a divisor.

By this I mean, you are no 'attacking' the game throughout the whole individual game =one hit to finish (=new high), but at a certain exposition point implement the divisor as a recovery =two to three hits to finish in positive.

rouletteforum.cc/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=27012.0;attach=46013
I see that after a long game you have plenty of shorts (usually), so getting to close with 3-3 hits wouls not be a problem at all -- & would give extra bankroll room to deal with the extreme game cases (as of now seen as two or more back to back larg(er) drawdowns).

Makes sense?
Title: Re: Kimo Li (??!)
Post by: TRD on Jan 10, 06:17 PM 2022
Quote from: alexlaf on Dec 06, 01:28 PM 2021
I am trying for quad or the hot number on that quad...

That being said ..

I'm curious
what do the numbers in pink/red/green mean? rouletteforum.cc/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=27012.0;attach=46015
on what basis, when do you activate the position in the chart?
how many positions do you play simultaneously & up to?
how do you cease the position?
etc.